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post #2671 of 5231
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Originally Posted by jaask View Post

After using a BOC for over a month I finally received my Da-Lite High Contrast High Power 106" screen which is a grey 2.4 gain screen. I took a bunch of pics from a distance of ~11.5'. I'm using guitarman's settings from first post with Standard gamma.

Pictures are taken from following movies: Tron, Baraka, King Kong, LOTR, Casino Royale, How to Train Your Dragon, Iron Man, iRobot, Open Season, Avatar, Dark Knight, Legend of the Guardians

Great pictures jaask. Makes me want to bust my camera out.
post #2672 of 5231
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Originally Posted by jaask View Post

After using a BOC for over a month I finally received my Da-Lite High Contrast High Power 106" screen which is a grey 2.4 gain screen.

Do you have a ceiling mounted projector? If so how high is the projector relative to you head height. I'm just curious as to what actual gain you are getting. If it's ceiling mounted and you are getting about 1.8 gain or less, but the contrast really pops!
post #2673 of 5231
Finally tried 3D on the HD3300 today.. WOW?!?! I am very impressed coming from my Panasoic VT25 3D picture (which is good). The 110" screen makes a big difference!

I do have a few questions...

1) I have a pair of the Optoma DLP-link and the Optoma RF glasses. It seems to me the DLP-link glasses provide a better 3D picture (the DLP-link are heavier though). Is this the general consensus?

2) If I put the HD3300 in DLP-link mode the RF adapter and glasses still sync. Do the RF glasses work as expected in DLP-link mode or does the projector have to be in VESA-3d? I did so much comparison testing the pictures were blending together after awhile.

3) What is the best 2D and 3D picture settings? Guitarman? I know they are subjective but would like to start with those.

Incredible projector!!
post #2674 of 5231
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Originally Posted by vidwiz View Post

My primary interest in a new projector being 3d, as well as the limited use time allotted to me for the 7000, did not allow me much time to study the 2d reproduction hence I am not very qualified to answer that question. I will say I notice significantly more picture noise/dithering/gradations on the 33 when viewing picture sources lacking the quality of bluray ie satellite television. That was one thing I did do a quick A/B on.

Thanks for answering.
post #2675 of 5231
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Originally Posted by shappy1010 View Post

Most games on the PS3 are 720p to start with, setting a game to 3D (Arkham City, Stardust HD etc.) always changes it to 720p. The PS3 can not handle 1080p 3D output for games (it either has to do with the processing power or the HDMI interface, which is apparently not HDMI 1.4..how it can produce 1080p 3D blu-Ray is a complete mystery to me)

The PS3 can playback 1080p@24hzX2 and HDMI 1.3/1.4 can handle it. They both can also do 720p@60hzX2. Neither can do 1080p@60hzX2.

You wouldn't want to play games at 24hz. You're much better off at 60hz.
post #2676 of 5231
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

Do you have a ceiling mounted projector? If so how high is the projector relative to you head height. I'm just curious as to what actual gain you are getting. If it's ceiling mounted and you are getting about 1.8 gain or less, but the contrast really pops!

Yes the projector is ceiling mounted with a lens center around 42" higher than my eyes. Using the calculators here I get ~1.4 gain because of not sitting exactly in the cone.
post #2677 of 5231
Which of the settings are you using off page 1 also any luck with some 3d settings, I have a high power screen and the default skin tones are awful, there seems to be a white glow/blooming (is contrast too high?)
post #2678 of 5231
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Originally Posted by paul77 View Post

Which of the settings are you using off page 1 also any luck with some 3d settings, I have a high power screen and the default skin tones are awful, there seems to be a white glow/blooming (is contrast too high?)

I use the one with Contrast -18, Brightness -3 etc. but instead of using Film gamma I'm using the Standard gamma because I personally like the look of it more. I do think I could still dial the numbers down some more because in some cases the screen does seem overly bright.

I'm generally using the stock settings with 3D but I do find myself experimenting with the Standard/Film gamma in some cases.
post #2679 of 5231
Hey guys I need some help. Finally got my HD33, set it up using my existing 10m HDMI cable to ps3 that was previously feeding my old Benq w1000 a 1080p image without a problem, but I have no handshake. It just says "no source found" with the occasional flicker but never an image...

Things I have tested so far:

- different shorter cable to ps3 = works 2d & 3d 1080p

Now get this, if I hotswap the short cable with the longer one that originally couldn't get a picture then it works, 2d & 3d @ 1080p via the ps3.

Thinking it may have just been an anomaly I remounted the unit, rewired the long cable, turned on the ps3 and bamn - no handshake

The long hdmi cable has proven to be able to pass the req signal but just can't handshake without hotswapping cables. Is there anything I can do here other than order a different long hdmi and pray it handshakes??

Thanks.
post #2680 of 5231
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Originally Posted by JoeFourMan View Post

Hey guys I need some help. Finally got my HD33, set it up using my existing 10m HDMI cable to ps3 that was previously feeding my old Benq w1000 a 1080p image without a problem, but I have no handshake. It just says "no source found" with the occasional flicker but never an image...

Things I have tested so far:

- different shorter cable to ps3 = works 2d & 3d 1080p

Now get this, if I hotswap the short cable with the longer one that originally couldn't get a picture then it works, 2d & 3d @ 1080p via the ps3.

Thinking it may have just been an anomaly I remounted the unit, rewired the long cable, turned on the ps3 and bamn - no handshake

The long hdmi cable has proven to be able to pass the req signal but just can't handshake without hotswapping cables. Is there anything I can do here other than order a different long hdmi and pray it handshakes??

Thanks.

Could be any number of things with the cable, but you've already basically solved your own problem - buy another HDMI 1.4 cable (get a heavier gauge) and you'll likely solve your issue. It may have been OK with a 720p projector, but now with the 1080p it's not.
post #2681 of 5231
Yeah I've seen indications on mine of inferior cables working at times, and not working at other times.
post #2682 of 5231
I bought 2x25 foot Wal Mart brand cheapies and they work awesome. I think they were "ION" brand - just make sure "3D" is on the packaging and you're good to go.
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What is the VESA-3D 3D mode? I am hearing the RF glasses still work in DLP-link mode. Is this true? If so why would the projector let you switch it?
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Originally Posted by EEBuckeye View Post

Finally tried 3D on the HD3300 today.. WOW?!?! I am very impressed coming from my Panasoic VT25 3D picture (which is good). The 110" screen makes a big difference!

I do have a few questions...

1) I have a pair of the Optoma DLP-link and the Optoma RF glasses. It seems to me the DLP-link glasses provide a better 3D picture (the DLP-link are heavier though). Is this the general consensus?

2) If I put the HD3300 in DLP-link mode the RF adapter and glasses still sync. Do the RF glasses work as expected in DLP-link mode or does the projector have to be in VESA-3d? I did so much comparison testing the pictures were blending together after awhile.

3) What is the best 2D and 3D picture settings? Guitarman? I know they are subjective but would like to start with those.

Incredible projector!!

For 3D I use the factory settings they're the most brighest. Plus they're tuned for when wearing the glasses. You'll notice if you look at the picture without them the video will have a red bias. Put the glasses on and the bias is gone, the green tint on the glasses and the red balance out to a more natural looking grayscale.
post #2685 of 5231
i was not aware that RF glasses would sync up/work while the projector is in DLP Link mode. is this true?
post #2686 of 5231
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Originally Posted by JoeFourMan View Post

Hey guys I need some help. Finally got my HD33, set it up using my existing 10m HDMI cable to ps3 that was previously feeding my old Benq w1000 a 1080p image without a problem, but I have no handshake. It just says "no source found" with the occasional flicker but never an image...

Things I have tested so far:

- different shorter cable to ps3 = works 2d & 3d 1080p

Now get this, if I hotswap the short cable with the longer one that originally couldn't get a picture then it works, 2d & 3d @ 1080p via the ps3.

Thinking it may have just been an anomaly I remounted the unit, rewired the long cable, turned on the ps3 and bamn - no handshake

The long hdmi cable has proven to be able to pass the req signal but just can't handshake without hotswapping cables. Is there anything I can do here other than order a different long hdmi and pray it handshakes??

Thanks.

I had a similar issue and replacing the HDMI cord would have been difficult because my basement was finished. I got a powered HDMI switch that went between my Denon receiver (PS3 goes into receiver) and the Optoma projector and problem solved. I hate those handshake issues. Here is a link to a similar model if changing cord doesn't work. http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #2687 of 5231
Having owned numerous projectors (BenQ 7800, BenQ 5000, Sharp DLP, Epson 8100) and an engineering professor with a HT fetish, also having installed 3 home theater rooms, I would note for those contemplating moving to a projector styled HT system that all these products are amazing, if you can live with occasional bulb burn outs and repair issues...some projector manufacturers better than others. But the recently installed Optoma HD3300 - I listened carefully to all your comments - really takes the cake, at the price offered, with good 2-D, and remarkable 3-D to boot. Watching Avatar last night was a remarkable experience and shows that 3-D will be successful, if done right. I sent email to Optoma developers and complimented tham on technical excellence. We are all blessed to have such affordable technology in our homes.
post #2688 of 5231
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Originally Posted by ered View Post

Having owned numerous projectors (BenQ 7800, BenQ 5000, Sharp DLP, Epson 8100) and an engineering professor with a HT fetish, also having installed 3 home theater rooms, I would note for those contemplating moving to a projector styled HT system that all these products are amazing, if you can live with occasional bulb burn outs and repair issues...some projector manufacturers better than others. But the recently installed Optoma HD3300 - I listened carefully to all your comments - really takes the cake, at the price offered, with good 2-D, and remarkable 3-D to boot. Watching Avatar last night was a remarkable experience and shows that 3-D will be successful, if done right. I sent email to Optoma developers and complimented tham on technical excellence. We are all blessed to have such affordable technology in our homes.

Which glasses are you using for your 3D?
post #2689 of 5231
3dHeaven Ultra Clear DLP Link...work without problems thus far
post #2690 of 5231
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Originally Posted by ered View Post

Having owned numerous projectors (BenQ 7800, BenQ 5000, Sharp DLP, Epson 8100) and an engineering professor with a HT fetish, also having installed 3 home theater rooms, I would note for those contemplating moving to a projector styled HT system that all these products are amazing, if you can live with occasional bulb burn outs and repair issues...some projector manufacturers better than others. But the recently installed Optoma HD3300 - I listened carefully to all your comments - really takes the cake, at the price offered, with good 2-D, and remarkable 3-D to boot. Watching Avatar last night was a remarkable experience and shows that 3-D will be successful, if done right. I sent email to Optoma developers and complimented tham on technical excellence. We are all blessed to have such affordable technology in our homes.

Hi ered,

How would you compare the Benq w5000 to the Optoma for 2D performance ? ....The Benq w6000 is on my short list at the moment and I think it has similar characteristic to the w5000.
post #2691 of 5231
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Originally Posted by ered View Post

Having owned numerous projectors (BenQ 7800, BenQ 5000, Sharp DLP, Epson 8100) and an engineering professor with a HT fetish, also having installed 3 home theater rooms, I would note for those contemplating moving to a projector styled HT system that all these products are amazing, if you can live with occasional bulb burn outs and repair issues...some projector manufacturers better than others. But the recently installed Optoma HD3300 - I listened carefully to all your comments - really takes the cake, at the price offered, with good 2-D, and remarkable 3-D to boot. Watching Avatar last night was a remarkable experience and shows that 3-D will be successful, if done right. I sent email to Optoma developers and complimented tham on technical excellence. We are all blessed to have such affordable technology in our homes.

Here here!!! I couldn't agree more! At this price, and with the beauty of it's 3D, I really do hope 3D makes it, or eventually helps another immersive technology come to light.
post #2692 of 5231
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We are all blessed to have such affordable technology in our homes.

^QFT. I was expecting better 3D than the craptacular release of the anaglyph Blu Ray Journey to the Center of the Earth, but this blew my mind. It is, hands down, significantly better than the theater. This is the one thing theaters had that I didn't. Now, theaters have got to come up with something significantly better to draw me in.
post #2693 of 5231
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Originally Posted by ered View Post

3dHeaven Ultra Clear DLP Link...work without problems thus far

do you notice a shift in tint from the left lens to the right? i found it slightly distracting with the 3d heaven glasses
post #2694 of 5231
Teaching engineering classes at BYU and being a Bishop in the Mormon church does not leave me much time to contribute to this forum, but I have both the BenQ 5000 and Optoma HD3300 installed, and there is little difference on most content. The BenQ is a a little better on excellent content, such as excellent blu ray movies, but not much. Perhaps I expect less from 3D than others but the Ultra Clears are good enough for me considering they cost considerably less and I need about 8 glasses for all the grandkids; I have not noticed a tint differential that is bothersome to me. Thanks for all your remarks.
post #2695 of 5231
Sounds like a valid opinion, not too far from what I've not noticed so far in the few DLP's I have compared.
The biggest differences between different DLP's are usually with dirtier sources or sources with more noise. Other than that, there is the color accuracy issue and the contrast and black levels, but really most DLP's from $800 to $2000 are generally close enough to the same contrast (excluding IRIS's) that there isn't really one that clobbers another in black levels (not all just most).

The Mits hc4000 has the highest NATIVE contrast in the sub $2000 DLP market as far as I know, the Optoma hd33 is not that far behind either.

What I really like about the Optoma hd33 though is the 6x color wheel and 3D for a ridiculously low price. You'd think they could have sold this thing for at least $1800 given those two features.

I would even say there is usually less difference between all sub $1500 DLP's, then there are between sub $2000 LCD's. Different LCD's tend to vary more in how they look. If you run just BLurays, most DLP's look really clean, even this cheap Viewsonic I have has no problems with image noise on Vudu streaming or Bluray, and most 720p Netflix is ok (but not as good as the Mits hc4000).
post #2696 of 5231
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Originally Posted by ered View Post

Teaching engineering classes at BYU and being a Bishop in the Mormon church does not leave me much time to contribute to this forum,

Man, you must be a cool Bishop. The idea of either of my last two bishops being home theatre geeks is kind of funny to me. They tend to leave those hobbies to the Financial Clerk (me) and the Ward Executive Secretary.
post #2697 of 5231
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BenQ 5000 and Optoma HD3300 installed, and there is little difference on most content

In terms of sharpness, I found them to be on par, with the Benq perhaps even edging out the Optoma. However, I found the Optoma to throw a much cleaner image (noise-free). I'm strictly talking about Blu-Ray movies, here.
post #2698 of 5231
Sorry to post so much, just bored...

The Optoma has newer processors then the older Benq w5000, it doesn't really surprise me that the Optoma looks a little cleaner, as well as the sharper projector (The Benq) will show more noise. There are ways and calibration methods to deal with noise though.

The Mits hc4000 has the least noise out of every projector I've ever seen, but sounds like the Optoma is really good here as well. The Viewsonic I have doesn't really have any noise on Blurays that I notice, but only slightly more in other sources. The Viewsonic has pretty new processing too though (recent pixelworks 10-bit + DC 3).

I am looking forward to hearing how the Benq w7000 does.
post #2699 of 5231
So, did anyone ever get their firmware upgraded? Or even get a copy from Optoma yet?
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Sorry to post so much, just bored...


Haha, me too. I'm waiting to get my projector mount and am reconfiguring my h/t, so I have been dipping my hands in all the forum subtopics that interest me. I'm worse than my wife on Facebook! That's saying something.
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