New Optoma HD33 HD3300 1080p 3D Projector Review - Page 94

I know I'm going to get shunned for saying this, but I used it for some 3D and actually liked it. It still didn't help with said artifact, but...

As a side note, I used my Samsung BD player to do a 2D-3D conversion of Return of the King and it actually looked quite good.

FWIW, i think the H3300's default 3d settings include puremotion settings ON...i still don't like how it looks even with 3d, but i have the same hard-to-focus almost dizzying situation with deep 3d content. I think i will move the seats back again (and also set the screen size number on my samsung 6700 to something lower and see if that helps).

If infinity parallax is set too high (e.g. the distance between the left and right eye for the same objects in the far background), they will be wider than the distance between your eyes, and if you sit close enough your eyes must turn out to complete the 3D image. This will usually cause eyestrain or dizziness, and certainly should be avoided for children. Best bet is to measure the distance between the center of your eyes and adjust the 3D image until the farthest objects are no greater than that apart. Sitting further back also reduces the apparent distance between like 3D objects. If children are watching 3D make sure the distance is reduced further. Near objects are not a problem as they will leap off the screen when they are farther apart and cause the eyes to cross and that is not an issue with most people.

Would 3D IR Transmitter for Mitsubishi & Ultra-Clear 3D Glasses sync with samsung SGG 2100 glasses if synced with HD33?

Many people are stuck with the glasses issue so please help

The HD33 is not 3D Vision certified, but it is supported via Nvidia 3DTV Play. 3DTV Play is free for owner's of an Nvidia emitter, the only catch is that the emitter must be plugged in via the USB connection at all times or 3DTV Play deactivates.

Will the glasses work, well I'm unsure, if you have the vesa 3 mini din connector you should be able to get the sync signal from the PJ, like the DLP TVs do. Worse case, you'd need to get a third party emitter that outputs a sync signal compatible with the Nvidia glasses, like Unique 8 Protocol Gen2 Universal 3D Emitter for 30 Models of 3D Glasses. http://www.amazon.com/Protocol-Gen2-...905852&sr=8-14

I've not used this product myself and would suggest reading user reviews/posts as to how well it works.

Except, you know, that you won't be able to play it at 48fps on any of the current hardware.

Interesting. I have not seen any hardware conversions yet, but I never expected them to be enjoyable.


Yes, I do know this. Neither HDMI 1.4a nor the Blu-ray spec will allow 48fps 3D, currently. I still remain positive. Why? Because this movie will be an extremely heavy hitter. If there is not some sort of update possible for both, then this has the potential where content can push technology. If I have to wait, then that may amount to more Hobbit theater screenings.

Me neither. But, I would choose the conversion of ROTK over 2D - it looks cleaner (and this pj already produces a very clean image), somehow sharper and definitely has more contrast in 3D (tinted glasses contributing to that). And, of course, the added depth really increases the immersion for me.

Thanks 3DNewb - thought I'd read somewhere that the newest drivers added support for 3D Vision, although their website doesn't list the PJ as supported.

Never really looked into 3DTV Play, thought it was inferior to 3D Vision mode - will look into it further.

Bummer, I have firmware C01 version and the dreaded “won’t remember image settings flaw like contrast, brightness, sharpness”. Unfortunately I need to send my newborn to California to get repaired. I find I need to lower the brightness or my eyes bug-out on some high bright video sources. Can someone tell me how long this process takes? It’s almost winter in northern Illinois and I need my baby back fast.

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double the price for 1080p thats available on bluray disks and directv(when its not out due to rain), otherwise, you aren't getting 1080p anyway.

and I watch 135 inches and i'd go larger if I could, things I wouldn't be able to do with this projector and throw length was something the poster was concerned about when he was asking.

i can't figure out how to check the firmware - any help appreciated.

(ps - optoma will send you current firmware if requested, correct?)

It's in the menu on like, the system screen, (I think) ? Can't check right now.

It's right at the top of the system menu and will say either "C01", "C02" or "C03".

i'll check when i get home, thanks.

i've been having more weird handshaking issues with my Denon 2112 - now whenever i turn the xbox 360 off without first changing the input or turning off the projector, the Optoma goes crazy with a flashing screen that can only be remedied by unplugging it! something about losing the xbox signal is not making the Optoma happy.

just wondering if a firmware update would help with some of these issues i'm having (doubtful i know).

Here is the response from Optoma..

The RF glasses will work while the projector is in DLP-Link mode although because of the DLP-Link sync flashes we do not recommend using both types of glasses simultaneously. If one was to use both glasses simultaneously the viewer with the RF glasses would see a picture that appears washed out and with a slight red tint while both of these are canceled out when viewed through the DLP-Link glasses. Hope it helps!

so i have CO2 firmware - am i missing anything from CO3?

Hi Gordo,

The most likely cause of what you are seeing is due to the sequential (alternating frame) 3-D display format, and not the 24fps rate or 3-D BluRay encoding itself. Sequential 3-D cannot show true time aligned L/R 3-D with fast moving material. It's a known shortcoming of any sequential 3-D display. This includes single projector Real-D theatrical presentations (144hz). Certain movement or pans can highlight this effect. Having a sequential 3-D display that alternates at 240hz would reduce this artifact, but again, certain pans or movement could still highlight this at just the right (or would that be wrong) speed.

It worth noting while the current consumer passive displays are half resolution (1080i per eye), they display the left and right images at the same time, and therefore are always time aligned.

In case someone thinks I'm knocking sequential 3-D displays, please understand that is not the case. Every 3-D display technology has it's strengths and weaknesses. And 3-D DLPs advantages are many and (in my opinion) is worth the time alignment trade off.

Greg

3DFPF and 3DFA

This is interesting. So are you saying that side-by-side 3d won't show this artifact? If this is the case, I'm probably going to use that 2d-3d conversion method on my player over the sequential method for action movies. I sit pretty close to the screen and this artifact is dizzying when it happens. I just ordered the Monoprice 2D-3D converter and am going to do a shootout with my Samsung BD D6700 in the 3D components subforum once I get it. Can't wait!

3-D BluRay and the Side By Side and TnB 3D video formats are all time aligned delivery formats, as in they always offer the needed L/R images at the same time. When it comes to resolution and display type, BluRay and HDMI 1.4 were designed to be display agnostic. While it's worth noting there have been previous 3D delivery formats that were not time aligned, that is a topic for another day.

The lack of time alignment occurs in the display device itself. Any displays that show sequential 3D (sequentially, meaning the display device alternates between showing the left and right images) will of course be in sync (which is different), but cannot be time aligned. Another way of describing it is the 3-D can seem out of phase during some motion sequences. How much someone notices this depends on (a *) the individual and (b) the given content being watched, as in how much and what type of motion is being displayed.

(a) Some will never notice or see it. Others can ignore it or learn to ignore it. It may drive a few nuts, even if they never know exactly what is that is irritating. I would somewhat equate it to DLP rainbow artifacting. For myself, in both cases, I can see it with the right material, but can ignore it.

Guys what's up with not being able to run 3D content any higher then 1080p 24hz? For games you really need 60Hz, but it's only available on 720p. I read some stuff about it being available in the future(?) what's the story with that?

Second:

I have a Onkyo TR-807 but as soon as I set my display to 3D (on my PC or PS3) the signal is gone. Both 720p and 1080p using high speed cables. I can no longer run 3D through my amp so I am very curious why it works with you.

I have to adjust my statement based on what another user stated. I am able to play games in 3D on my PS3 and XBOX360 where I can turn on the game then choose the 3D format. However, I'm not able to play frame sequential blu rays through the receiver. Because of that, I ended up buying a dual hdmi Samsung BD-D67600 so one hdmi goes to my receiver for audio and the other goes to the projector. I don't regret getting the player as the picture quality is stunning, but if I could do it again I'd probably get the product below which will solve your problem:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...1&format=6#faq

Something I'm also doing is combining the above product with this:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback

I'll be able to plug my PS3, XBOX360, Satellite PVR and PC into the switcher, then run the converter through the hdmi out to the pj and voila! 3D conversion on 4 diff. sources. The converter also has a passthrough mode when watching native 3D content. Now, this works in theory and according to the techs at monoprice, but I'll post back once I get it up and (hopefully) running.

Hi There

Want is the maximum amount of RF glasses you can use/have synced to this projector? Reason I ask is that I will be having at least 6 people round to watch 3d Moives and wanted to know if there would be a problem. Also, what is the maximum amount of DLP-Link Glasses that you can use with this projector?

Cool let me know. I'm doing the same with my PC, I used my secundary DVI port on my NVIDIA 570 to connect to my amp for audio only. Works like a charm, but it's my game PC which normally doesn't sit in the living room, and I don't intend to keep it there forever..

There's no limit. It's like asking how many radios can tune in to the same station.

There might be a limit with Bluetooth, however.

Bandwidth.

1080p@24hzX2 is roughly the same as 1080p@48hz. HDMI 1.4a spec maxes out bandwidth at 1080p@60hz, which is half of 1080p@60hzX2.

Currently only DVI-D (dual link) and Display Port are capable of the bandwidth needed to pass 1920x1080P@120Hz to a Display.

HDMI is limited by the current generation HDMI chipset built into the display.