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post #3601 of 5238
2/16/12 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by yousafm View Post

Hi All, any more advice on the below:


"Was hoping if someone can advise (I am a very technical AV enthusiast but could not quite find the comparison i am looking for and have not been following too much on the projectors recently)

I am thinking of getting the HD33 because of the 3D which is supposed to be excellent, my questions are:

1) I own and absolutely adore the Optoma HD81 with the external scaler. This projector has an amazing 2D image probably because of the scaler (a now old projector but used to cost £2700 when new).
Now my worry is loosing this excellent 2D image if the 2D image of this HD33 3D projector is not as good (I am hoping the new 3D projectors being established now have better 2D then the older expensive projectors that were 2D only)

My Screen is an 88" Stewart Firehawk Luxus Deluxe (original/G2 not G3)"

Well, first of all the HD81 has the Dark Chip 3 and the HD33 the Dark Chip 2. That right there should tell you alot--especially the contrast detail. The 2D image is not going to live up to what you have now. The 3D image is great though, and will meet your expectations. The 88" screen will be too small and too bright for 2D as well. Check out the Optoma HD8300, which my guess is the HD81 with 3D builtin. However, either way I think you'll need to go to bigger screen to get enjoy the brighter images and 3D.

By the way, I have the HD3300 and while I like it a lot for 3D, it's not quite up to what my Mits 3800 was for 2D, but I"m living with it because of the nice bright image on my 142" DIY screen.
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post #3602 of 5238
2/16/12 at 2:32pm
i plan on using a 150 inch screen, would that be okay guys? a 150 inch screen will take up my entire wall of my room after i measured it. my bed would be approximately 12-13 feet from the wall i will be using (its against the opposite wall) from the foot of my bed to the wall (the wall where i will have the 150 inch screen) is approximately 3.7 feet)


i plan on moving my bed to the middle of the room (which is the middle of the screen which is approximately 46 inches to the left and right from the mid point of 75 inches) im trying to get an idea of how high i would need the projector to be so i could get the 150in screen completely filled up and properly displayed.


like i stated early its approximately 13-14 feet from the wall, to the other wall i will be mounting the 150 inch screen. will that be doable???
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post #3603 of 5238
2/16/12 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by Sprinkster View Post

i plan on using a 150 inch screen, would that be okay guys? a 150 inch screen will take up my entire wall of my room after i measured it. my bed would be approximately 12-13 feet from the wall i will be using (its against the opposite wall) from the foot of my bed to the wall (the wall where i will have the 150 inch screen) is approximately 3.7 feet)


i plan on moving my bed to the middle of the room (which is the middle of the screen which is approximately 46 inches to the left and right from the mid point of 75 inches) im trying to get an idea of how high i would need the projector to be so i could get the 150in screen completely filled up and properly displayed.


like i stated early its approximately 13-14 feet from the wall, to the other wall i will be mounting the 150 inch screen. will that be doable???

If the room is only 13 long, then no. A 150" screen requires a throw of 16.4" minimum--lens to screen. Plus the screen would be 6 feet high, leaving about a 1foot from the floor and your bed would probably block half the screen while you are sitting in it. I would say the best screen size for that room is 110" max. The projector would be mounted on a 4" to 12" bracket hanging from the ceiling close the back wall. It's always best to test out the size requirement by putting the projector on a ladder near the back wall and see what the screen size limits are for projection in the most zoom position. Plus a 150" 1.0 gain screen is going to be dim for 3D, and just passing for 2D. You would want a Dalite High Power 2.4 gain screen then, and that's only the best gain when you mount the projector near head level due to it's retroreflectivity (light shines back to the source).

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm
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post #3604 of 5238
2/16/12 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

If the room is only 13 long, then no. A 150" screen requires a throw of 16.4" minimum--lens to screen. Plus the screen would be 6 feet high, leaving about a 1foot from the floor and your bed would probably block half the screen while you are sitting in it. I would say the best screen size for that room is 110" max. The projector would be mounted on a 4" to 12" bracket hanging from the ceiling close the back wall. It's always best to test out the size requirement by putting the projector on a ladder near the back wall and see what the screen size limits are for projection in the most zoom position. Plus a 150" 1.0 gain screen is going to be dim for 3D, and just passing for 2D. You would want a Dalite High Power 2.4 gain screen then, and that's only the best gain when you mount the projector near head level due to it's retroreflectivity (light shines back to the source).

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm

ty so much threed i just pmed you directly, when you get the chance id be grateful if you could get back to me with your advice
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post #3605 of 5238
2/16/12 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

I have a problem, using the test pattern grid, all lines show up but not the top horizontal one, does this mean the lamp is about to fail or?



Have you set Edge feather to = 0 (not sure what the menu calls it off the top of head). Also put your aspect ratio to: Native and not 16X9. 16x9 on the HD33 zooms the image a little. Not the true aspect ratio of the HD33. When I did this I was able to see more image due to the clipping of the 16x9 Aspect setting.

I ended restoring everything to default and it's back...

Thanks for suggestions though
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post #3606 of 5238
2/16/12 at 8:09pm
New owner here! Loving it except for one thing...
Has anyone here succeeded in passing side by side video (or top/bottom or FS for that matter) via VGA? I am playing side by side video on Stereoscopic Player and I can't get a 3d option to be selectable for the life of me. I have tried 1920x1080 at 60hz... and I even tried dropping down to 1024x768 at 120hz which the MANUAL says is a valid source. May not be a deal breaker (time will tell), but its certainly a deal cracker cause I have a LOT more 3d in SBS or FS format playable on Stereoscopic Player than I do in Blu3d...
Help?
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post #3607 of 5238
2/16/12 at 8:38pm
my god...my HD33 finally comes back tomorrow...it feels like an eternity....had C01....they put a new board in and updated to C04.....i had settings lost from time to time...sheesh.....hope it was worth the wait...
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post #3608 of 5238
2/16/12 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Sthunderrocker View Post

New owner here! Loving it except for one thing...
Has anyone here succeeded in passing side by side video (or top/bottom or FS for that matter) via VGA? I am playing side by side video on Stereoscopic Player and I can't get a 3d option to be selectable for the life of me. I have tried 1920x1080 at 60hz... and I even tried dropping down to 1024x768 at 120hz which the MANUAL says is a valid source. May not be a deal breaker (time will tell), but its certainly a deal cracker cause I have a LOT more 3d in SBS or FS format playable on Stereoscopic Player than I do in Blu3d...
Help?
S

So I discovered that FS is assumed at 1024x768. So when I put the player into pageflipping mode and went full screen, I had decent lower rez 3d. Problem is the sync was TERRIBLE if not completely unwatchable. I tried 800x600 and the projector saw it as the same 1024x768 but centered in the screen. It was a little more stable (as in lens sync) but still juddered like mad on the second frames at least once a second or so. So does this mean I have to get either a VGA to HDMI converter or upgrade my graphics card to an HDMI output and figure out a 100' HDMI run?!? Not impressed.
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post #3609 of 5238
2/16/12 at 11:09pm
was wondering if i could get some input from you guys i plan on getting the optoma hd33 here are my remeasured specs

here are my most accurate measurements.


my bed:
height: 1.208 ft/ 14.5in
width: 4.895 ft /58.75in
length: 6.667ft / 80 in

wall that the image will be projected on:
Height :7.875 ft/ 94.5 in (from the ceiling to the floor (carpet)
width: 12.91ft/ 155 in (horizontal length of wall)

wall where projector will be (opposite wall)
distance from wall to wall:
10.4 feet /124 in

so yea thats the dimensions for my room, id prefer to not have to mount it to the celing, i think the ceiling here is made of sheet rock. (not sure if it could hold it)


now according to the projector calc. http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm

i should be able to do a 97 inch display at 10.3 feet at 1.2x zoom, (this is all assuming im using the calc correctly) im now looking for a 100 inch solid setup with my "above measurements" now my question is, can i just plus it up to just a solid 100 inches, im waiting for threeds response in pm, but i wanted to get some other input from some others,

all input is appreciated.
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post #3610 of 5238
2/17/12 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by hawaiitaco View Post

my god...my HD33 finally comes back tomorrow...it feels like an eternity....had C01....they put a new board in and updated to C04.....i had settings lost from time to time...sheesh.....hope it was worth the wait...

how long did it take. I am ready to ship mine in.
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post #3611 of 5238
2/17/12 at 4:50am
I found the calculator to be dead on, give or take an inch. Ceiling mounted mine' 14' from screen at 120" diagonal. The calculator will help you plan ahead before you purchase a screen or projector. I did it this way before I bought hd33 and screen and is pretty dead on. But make sure you input numbers correct. Like what is gain of screen, zoom level tolerance to make it work, screen size ect. And also the amount of inches where the middle of the lens up will be be inline to the bottom or top of screen. Hope this helps a little.
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post #3612 of 5238
2/17/12 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by jkirby View Post

Good day,
Have absolutely no interest in 3D. Unless a pair of glasses comes with the machine, or someone gives a pair to me for a present, I can never see myself paying money to get one of those.

Steve

Wait until you see it. I have converted many anti-3D attitudes in my living room.
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post #3613 of 5238
2/17/12 at 5:48am
How does the hd33 2D image compare to the older hd72? Thanks
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post #3614 of 5238
2/17/12 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by Sprinkster View Post

was wondering if i could get some input from you guys i plan on getting the optoma hd33 here are my remeasured specs

here are my most accurate measurements.


my bed:
height: 1.208 ft/ 14.5in
width: 4.895 ft /58.75in
length: 6.667ft / 80 in

wall that the image will be projected on:
Height :7.875 ft/ 94.5 in (from the ceiling to the floor (carpet)
width: 12.91ft/ 155 in (horizontal length of wall)

wall where projector will be (opposite wall)
distance from wall to wall:
10.4 feet /124 in

so yea thats the dimensions for my room, id prefer to not have to mount it to the celing, i think the ceiling here is made of sheet rock. (not sure if it could hold it)


now according to the projector calc. http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm

i should be able to do a 97 inch display at 10.3 feet at 1.2x zoom, (this is all assuming im using the calc correctly) im now looking for a 100 inch solid setup with my "above measurements" now my question is, can i just plus it up to just a solid 100 inches, im waiting for threeds response in pm, but i wanted to get some other input from some others,

all input is appreciated.

By my calculations you can handle about an 85" screen max. Problem is the measurement is from the lens to the screen, so you'll need another foot of space for the projector. So for a 10.4 inch wall to wall distance, you can handle about a 9.4 inch throw, but you'll need room for connections, so even that might not be enough. That's why I'm saying you'll need to set one on a table or ladder on the opposite side of the room and see what max size you can get. You are going to have another issue with brightness--it will be way too bright on an 85" screen in 2D mode, and you might need a neutral density filter over the lens for 2D. In 3D, it will be nice, though. Hope this helps.
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post #3615 of 5238
2/17/12 at 6:59am
So I Tested my Focus issue on the left side of my screen with the test grid pattern in the menu and noticed that the left side, about 12 inches in from the blk border, the grid lines had a convergence issue. you could clearly see red, green, blue lines not lined up on top of each other. Definatly a convergance issue of is it both conv. and focus. I thought convergence creates blurry image which throws focus out.

Any Thoughts would be appreciated. I will be sending it in soon.
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post #3616 of 5238
2/17/12 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by shappy1010 View Post

Wait until you see it. I have converted many anti-3D attitudes in my living room.

3D is awesome. I find myself wanting to watch more 3D than 2D. If movie has 3D and 2D which is not common, I watch 3D. So much more immersive. Ask George Lucas who just converted Phantom Menace to 3D. He knows this. Watched an interview where talked about the reason why he did it. 3D has a future if GLucas says so. IMOP
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post #3617 of 5238
2/17/12 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

3D is awesome. I find myself wanting to watch more 3D than 2D. If movie has 3D and 2D which is not common, I watch 3D. So much more immersive. Ask George Lucas who just converted Phantom Menace to 3D. He knows this. Watched an interview where talked about the reason why he did it. 3D has a future if GLucas says so. IMOP

Too bad it doesn't make TPM a better movie..

Many moviemakers such as James Cameron, Ridley Scott and Peter Jackson have already stated they are not going back to 2D.
I think a real gamechanger is Martin Scorsese's Hugo which swayed for the first time many 'arthouse' movie critics to 3D, in terms of cinematography it's apparently a great leap forward.
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post #3618 of 5238
2/17/12 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

By my calculations you can handle about an 85" screen max. Problem is the measurement is from the lens to the screen, so you'll need another foot of space for the projector. So for a 10.4 inch wall to wall distance, you can handle about a 9.4 inch throw, but you'll need room for connections, so even that might not be enough. That's why I'm saying you'll need to set one on a table or ladder on the opposite side of the room and see what max size you can get. You are going to have another issue with brightness--it will be way too bright on an 85" screen in 2D mode, and you might need a neutral density filter over the lens for 2D. In 3D, it will be nice, though. Hope this helps.

thanks so much threed, question, this neutral density filter, is it a hassle to take on in off, (between 2d and 3d)? also what model ND filter, would be best
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post #3619 of 5238
2/17/12 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

Definately going to buy hugo.

um im confused on what you are implying?
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post #3620 of 5238
2/17/12 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by Sprinkster View Post

um im confused on what you are implying?

Sorry Man, I meant to reply with 3D is awesome thread above. Which is that I'm Definately going to buy hugo 3D. Heard it was awesome. Sorry for the confusing
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post #3621 of 5238
2/17/12 at 10:12am
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sorry man, i meant to reply with 3d is awesome thread above. Which is that i'm definately going to buy hugo 3d. Heard it was awesome. Sorry for the confusing :d

lol np
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post #3622 of 5238
2/17/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by Sprinkster View Post

thanks so much threed, question, this neutral density filter, is it a hassle to take on in off, (between 2d and 3d)? also what model ND filter, would be best

Search: neutral density

on this thread and you'll find lots of help for filters. I don't use one, so best to research someone who does.
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post #3623 of 5238
2/17/12 at 10:23am
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thanks so much threed, question, this neutral density filter, is it a hassle to take on in off, (between 2d and 3d)? also what model ND filter, would be best

I have used an ND filter and returned it. It was a variable filter so I could change the number of stops. Even at ND2 the impact on the brightness was too much versus the gain in black level for my taste. The best solution appears to be moving the projector further back. As well, the filter impacted the sharpness of the image just enough to be bothersome. It was a high quality lens, and maybe not really meant to be used with a projected image. I am going to try a gel sheet next to see if that works better and they are much cheaper at $7 and i will try a sheet lower than ND2.
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post #3624 of 5238
2/17/12 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by John_ACa View Post

I have used an ND filter and returned it. It was a variable filter so I could change the number of stops. Even at ND2 the impact on the brightness was too much versus the gain in black level for my taste. The best solution appears to be moving the projector further back. As well, the filter impacted the sharpness of the image just enough to be bothersome. It was a high quality lens, and maybe not really meant to be used with a projected image. I am going to try a gel sheet next to see if that works better and they are much cheaper at $7 and i will try a sheet lower than ND2.

see well , i wouldn't be able to move it back..
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post #3625 of 5238
2/17/12 at 1:19pm
hello threed, i dont know why i didnt think of this before, but what if i just move my bed, the long way and use the wall on the side that has one of my windows in the middle of it, and just set a pull up from the floor type projector screen (thats the type i was going to get anyway).

measurements below
160 inches 13.3 ft (throwing distance)
im guessing its really 12.3ft considering the projector starts a foot from the lens. (so i did measurements for 12.3 ft throwing distance)

125 inches 10.4ft wide
88 inches 7.3 ft height


from the calculator:
104 image, diagonal with an image brightness of 22lfL which is just off 1 for the recommended range for image brightness with ambient lighting (green zone)

@ zoom at 1.0x throwing distances is 13.7ft & 22fL

@ 1.1x throwing distance is 12.4ft & 25 fL

@ 1.2x Throwing distance is 11.4ft & 28fL

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm


you can verify if my noob calc. are on point.

ideally i want a solid 100 inch diagnal screen (which seems to be possible with this new set up)

and i want to not have to mess with filters.

so what set up, (throwing distance and zoom) would be optimal for the BEST 100 inch picture at 16:9 diaganol with the BRIGHTEST 3D (BEST 3D) and Brightest 2D without stepping away from a gain 1.0 screen.

thanks alot for all the help, im pretty sure this will be my last switch up on the setup, im confident this setup will yield better results , im just waiting for your input before i order the projector and screen

thanks again!
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post #3626 of 5238
2/17/12 at 1:44pm
i am what size of ND .3 filer shall i buy for this projector.

i have HD33, 1.3 gain 100" screen.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=5336055023-20
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post #3627 of 5238
2/18/12 at 5:51am
hey guys. want to get a pair of sony 3D glasses for my son. I heard that sony glasses are compatible with HD33 RF emmiter. Is this true?
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post #3628 of 5238
2/18/12 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by Sprinkster View Post

hello threed, i dont know why i didnt think of this before, but what if i just move my bed, the long way and use the wall on the side that has one of my windows in the middle of it, and just set a pull up from the floor type projector screen (thats the type i was going to get anyway).

measurements below
160 inches 13.3 ft (throwing distance)
im guessing its really 12.3ft considering the projector starts a foot from the lens. (so i did measurements for 12.3 ft throwing distance)

125 inches 10.4ft wide
88 inches 7.3 ft height


from the calculator:
104 image, diagonal with an image brightness of 22lfL which is just off 1 for the recommended range for image brightness with ambient lighting (green zone)

@ zoom at 1.0x throwing distances is 13.7ft & 22fL

@ 1.1x throwing distance is 12.4ft & 25 fL

@ 1.2x Throwing distance is 11.4ft & 28fL

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Opto...ulator-pro.htm


you can verify if my noob calc. are on point.

ideally i want a solid 100 inch diagnal screen (which seems to be possible with this new set up)

and i want to not have to mess with filters.

so what set up, (throwing distance and zoom) would be optimal for the BEST 100 inch picture at 16:9 diaganol with the BRIGHTEST 3D (BEST 3D) and Brightest 2D without stepping away from a gain 1.0 screen.

thanks alot for all the help, im pretty sure this will be my last switch up on the setup, im confident this setup will yield better results , im just waiting for your input before i order the projector and screen

thanks again!

Looks like you are getting closer to a decent setup and 100" screen would be workable. However, since brightness is subjective, I would get the screen and projector and setup a demo for yourself. Move the bed out of the way, put the projector on a table that can be moved forward and back and sit next to it in chair and adjust the zoom, brightness and contrast in 2D at difference distances from the screen and see what brightness level is tolerable. 3D works off of graphics mode and will automatically switch to the brightest setting. 2D can be set to less bright or standard mode. Watch for a few days and when satisfied, then you can permanent mount on the ceiling. If a ceiling isn't possible, then a table mount next to the bed is an option, but the screen will be off center from your view. Note if you do a table, the projector will need to be close to the floor because of the projector to screen offset, or screen would need to be near the ceiling. That will be another challenge with a floor pullup screen. Some of these issues can only be overcome by trying it out yourself.
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post #3629 of 5238
2/18/12 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

how long did it take. I am ready to ship mine in.

With about 7 days of shipping time total, it took 3 weeks 3 days door to door.
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post #3630 of 5238
2/18/12 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by hawaiitaco View Post

With about 7 days of shipping time total, it took 3 weeks 3 days door to door.

WOW, not bad at all. I live on east coast NC so it may take longer hey? I believe optoma repair center is in CA right?
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