New Optoma HD33 HD3300 1080p 3D Projector Review - Page 131

anyone got a setting for 1.3gain screen?

Lol ! Thanks for the input. Looking at the placement limitations as well, its officially off my list. My friends old Mitsubishi DLP tv used to give me migraines. After about 3 days of forcing myself to view it, i got used to it but having to deal with it from a 50" TV to a 106" screen would be too much. My eyes have a lot of screen to cover and would be moving too much.

I agree with guitarman. I just dont see any rbe. I had a 720p 3d ready projector and the rbe was bad. I dont see any at all on the hd33. Not to say youall dont see rbe, but thank god my projector is rbe free. I love this projector. The best bang for your buck and awesome quality.

this has been my experience as well. i used to see RBE all the time with my first dlp projector back in the day (infocus 7200) - i really rarely see anything close to RBE on my HD3300.

As expected, there's not much we can do for color calibration on this pj since it has no CMS (color management system).

For the measurements I was able to make, the color calibration is not bad at all. It is pretty close to accepted standards. Could be better, but again there's not much we can do about it.

As far I can tell, there are only 2 controls that are available on the HD33 for color calibration and they are color and tint. The 3 primary colors are controlled all together with the Color control, which pretty much maxes out saturation at +5 (red measurements are steady past that value), and tint can slightly improve the balance of the 3 secondary colors at -1.

Final ajsustments: I'd leave Color at +8 and reduce Tint a notch at -1.

Try that, along with greyscale calibration posted above and let me know what you think...

Windshift

Windshift, what size is your screen? I think I have about a 1.0 gain DIY screen as well so your numbers may work for me, but maybe screen size needs to be taken into account?

windshift -

do the RGB/gain bias settings not add further controls for the color calibration?

so i bought a pair of these on ebay from thevisionexperience.com to try out and compare to the optoma dlp links

while they are much more comfortable than the optomas, they have some serious flaws IMHO. one lens is MUCH darker than the other and if you turn your head at all there is a noticable shift from red to green within each of the lenses. the optomas don't exhibit any of these symptoms and also block out external light from ambient light much much better.

go into projector menu. Look in the right top corner of the menu screen. Should say CO1, 2 or CO3. I have CO3

No , it doesn't. What it does is balance the levels of RGB (red green blue) in the different white levels from IRE 0 (black) to IRE 100 (100% white).

What you need to control color calibration is a CMS (color management system). That will let you adjust hue and saturation for all 6 primary and secondary colors individually to achieve the target (REC 709 HD standard).

Nevertheless, adjusting the greyscale is the most important step to achieve the best possible viewing experience. Color calibration is a plus, but not essential.

106 inches, and throw (lens to screen distance) 12ft

As I wrote, the setting for CIE is not bad at all. It lacks a little bit of saturation for the red and blue, but in the end, it doesn't compromise the viewing experience at all. Furthermore, no one can expect to have a CMS with a 3D pj under 1500$. The greyscale calibration is as easy as it gets and will improve the already good "out of the box" settings.

The HD33 is a great projector. The best bang for the buck, big time, on the market today, from what I've read. I would highly recommend this pj to anyone interested in great 3D projection and high quality 2D. Only had it for 3 weeks now but my first impressions are that this is an outstanding product!

Hi.... sorry for my english. I got a problem . Can't get 1080p with PS3 (HDMI 1.3 cable) -> YAMAHA Receiver (HDMI 1.4)-> HD33. I can use 480p, 720p and 1080i only. It's weird because if I use Optoma 3D-XL between the receiver and HD33, I can get 1080p. PS3 (HDMI 1.3 cable) -> YAMAHA Receiver (HDMI 1.4)-> OPTOMA 3D-XL (HDMI 1.3)-> HD33. I will sell my HD66 + 3D-XL tomorrow, so I need help. Regards!.

Thank you. But i tried that. When I change to 1080p in my PS3, the screen goes black and returns to the display menu after 30 second. If I change the resolution to 720p / 1080i, I can see the image and dialog to accept the new resolution in 3 seconds. It's like my display cant hold 1080p .

Did you try going straight to the HD33 and not thru your Yamaha? Your receiver could be the problem.

I recently upgraded avr to denon 4311ci and It works great with the hd33.

FWIW, i have owned a current receiver that didn't cooperate with the hd3300 at all (i even returned it and tried another unit). there does seem to be some handshaking issues that are a potential issues with some receivers (mine was a denon 2112 that didn't like the optoma).

video and sync loss have been replaced by lockups now that i'm using an onkyo. i should get the new firmware, i'm just too lazy to send it in for service just yet.

Hope you guys don t blame me for going a little off topic here but I m trying to find an answer to some questions I have and I do not get any response in the Sony VW95 thread

I m from Europe (Netherlands) and bought the 2 Optoma RF glasses for my Sony VW95 (because they suppose to give much better results, more brighness and less ghosting, then the original Sony glasses). I also have the Optoma BC-100 emitter and a friend of mine is making a custom cable atm with which I will be able to connect the BC-100 emitter to the Sony VW95 and get the Optoma glasses work.

But I need to know some things about the Optoma emitter.

First of all the firmware. Since I ve heard that the Optoma BC-100 is the exact same emitter as the MV3D emitter I downloaded the MonsterVision utility for my PC. I tried to update the firmware of the BC-100. Everything goes as described in the update manual of MonsterVision and it looks like firmware version 1.05.010 is loaded to the emitter. But after reconnecting the BC-100 emitter to my and load the MonsterVision utility again the software still says 1.05.004...... So either firmware 1.05.010 is actually NOT applied to the emitter (and the Optoma BC-100 is not compatible with the MV3D software) OR the Monster Vision software reports incorrect information. Maybe someone can tell me more about this?

Second there is the arrows on the emitter. What do they exactly do?

Thanks!

RE: my posted settings above.

The only parameter that was a little off was gamma, a bit too low with my posted settings. I was able to correct that with the following settings under the Advanced menu:

Gamma film
Curve type +2
Offset +1

Gamma is now tracking very close to the standard 2.2, for improved shadow detail which brings more life to the image.

Would you mind posting the duty cycle and delay settings you're using after this update? Thanks.

I use the lowest values for both i.e. delay at 20 and duty cycle at 10, unless my manual tuning changes that, which I'm not sure... Instructions for the rf emitter are awful!

For manual tuning, to get the highest brightness without ghosting, I hold the mini-joystick down (gentle push into the case until it clicks) until 2 lights come on and then release the pressure; you are now in manual performance calibration. I move the joystick sideways until I get 4 lights (on the emitter) at full intensity.

Hope this helps.

I use Denon AVR-1912 and have no issues... Optoma firmware C03

where you guys buy your hd33 projector?

amazon
projector people
visual apex

or other stores

Avs store is where I purchased rf glasses and HD3300. Call them.

how much is the projector?

With the VERY small amount over HD33 added warranty, small bump in specs and black finish its more than worth it. No price talk here.. I check pms however

B&H. got one refurbished for $1190 shipped.

Yep. 1080i only with HDMI 1.4 cable.... but with my HDMI 1.3 got 1080p. Should I buy another cable?.