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post #4051 of 5228
4/5/12 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

how do i calibrate to the max performatce on the 3d glasses?

There is no way to calibrate 3d glasses if that is what you mean. I use the optima zd-101 dlp link glasses and they work very well. Not the most comfortable but not bad.
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post #4052 of 5228
4/5/12 at 6:44pm
if u use RF glasses, u can calibrate.
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post #4053 of 5228
4/5/12 at 11:38pm
If you are lazy like me and just want to plug in and play so to speak, go with the DLP-Link glasses. I have the Optoma ZD-201s and they are phenomenal. Just watched IMAX: The Ultimate Wave: Tahiti and almost crapped my pants it was sooo good.
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post #4054 of 5228
4/6/12 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

If you are lazy like me and just want to plug in and play so to speak, go with the DLP-Link glasses. I have the Optoma ZD-201s and they are phenomenal. Just watched IMAX: The Ultimate Wave: Tahiti and almost crapped my pants it was sooo good.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Makes you want to have depends on hand just in case.
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post #4055 of 5228
4/6/12 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Rich I see a 120' Elite Electric for $369 overstock. You might search further and find a better price. Any tensioned screen will be more than double this price. What's good about this one is it's a Mat White surface so you won't need it tensioned. Once video is on it all you'll see is a flat surface. In your room 1.0 great will be great you'll get the best blacks while keeping the whites nice and white.

And if it isn't too much more for the HD3300 from AVS I'd snag it. You get an extra year warranty and a year on the lamp. Plus the nicer looking case and again all hand picked parts.

Just did a little more research, a dalite cosmopoliton like I have in 119" diag HDTV Mat white is $750 or $900 in high power material like I have while the cosmo tensioned is $1700 see what I mean. High power would be extremely bright since you're table mounting. Great brightness for 3D but not so great for 2D, unless this new Dalite High Contrast High Power is different. It does look interesting.


Thanks, Tom. I have no problem with the $750. range for a screen that would give better quality to the image. Where would I find this screen in that price range? I assume the 1.0 gain would be best for my completely light-controlled room?

Thanks again for all the help. Your advice has been invaluable.
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post #4056 of 5228
4/6/12 at 7:51pm
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Then I would get the 1.0 dalite mat white cosompoliton in HDTV format, thefinalclick.
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post #4057 of 5228
4/7/12 at 7:38am
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How would you like to run 3D on the HD33 in STD Lamp Mode? It can be done believe it or not. I popped in Transformers 3D (drk side of the moon) in default 3D mode and the Bright Lamp Setting started Humming. Once the surround sound is on, not really that distracting until quiet scenes, then u notice it. Not to mention it wears your lamp life significantly. I tweaked the HD33 in the user setting with STD Lamp mode on while watching Transformers. Played several dark scenes for deep blks and detail in shadows.

With the Optoma Rf glasses on in 3D default, the blacks just didn't do it for me. Because of the brightness in 3D default and RF Glasses the blacks were dark grey. The DLP link zd102 did a better job with contrast and blk level, but hated them because of the uncomfortableness and bulkiness of them. Not to mention constantly having to re-synced the blady thing. (sorry, I'm English). My wife and 6 yr old hated them. They love the RF's and they fit my son. He loves 3D. I love them. Great comfort. DLP ZD102 Made 3d cumbersome and not fun. Now, I liked the image on them, but needed glasses for the whole family to use.

Okay, having said all that, I calibrated my own setting for 3D in the user Setting in std lamp mode. What it gave me was a gorgeous 3D image with beautiful blacks while not crushing them and blowing highlights. Beautiful detail in dark shadows. I was shocked at the image. Looked wonderful. Switched back and forth from User to Default 3D settings and could not believe my input settings. Very similar, but deeper blacks and plenty bright in STD lamp mode.

My settings are below for anyone to try and tell me what you think.

LAMP MODE: STD
DISPLAY MODE: User

CONTRAST: +7
BRIGHTNESS: -4 (if too dark, Increase to preference, but kills the blk level a touch.)
SHARPNESS: 12
COLOR: 20
TINT: 0

ADVANCED:
GAMMA: film
Gamma Film Curve type: -7
Offset: +2

PURE ENGINE:
Pure Motion: off (or 1 if you like. I dont, I like the movie judder)
Pure Detail: off
Pure Color: 1

COLOR SETTINGS:
Color Temp: Medium

RGB BIAS/GAIN:
Red Gain: 0
Green Gain: -2
Blue Gain: 0
Red Bias: +2
Green Bias: 0
Blue Bias: +2

You can tweak the Brightness for your taste, but I found it to lighten the blk levels in the movie as well as the cinema-scope blk bars on top and bottom. Again, I put my own settings to suite my liking and all of us have different tastes so please dont think I am being Cocky. Just love tweaking stuff. love this forum. Thnks for all the input and suggestions.

i want to know what is ur setting for your 3d glasses?

i am wondering how long does the lamp blub last?
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post #4058 of 5228
4/7/12 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

i want to know what is ur setting for your 3d glasses?

i am wondering how long does the lamp blub last?

I don't have any settings for the rf optoma 3d glasses. Just the default setting that came with them. Have not tweaked them at all. No need. They are perfect the way they are. Bulb life in STD lamp mode is 4000hrs. And 3000hrs in Bright lamp mode.
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post #4059 of 5228
4/7/12 at 8:58pm
cvh,

how long have u got ur projector? if i use my lamb for at least 500+ hrs, am i going to still using ur setting or i have to use different setting for it?
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post #4060 of 5228
4/8/12 at 4:10am
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

cvh,

how long have u got ur projector? if i use my lamb for at least 500+ hrs, am i going to still using ur setting or i have to use different setting for it?

I have 250 hrs on lamp. Have not seen any colorshift yet. I doubt i will recalibrate unless there is a drastic shift. I am very happy with my settings and have officially stopped tinkering with it. When a picture is pleasing to the eye and u stop looking for flaws and actually watch the movie, then its time to stop messing with settings. That includes 3D. I love my 3d settings and will not change it. 2d also.
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post #4061 of 5228
4/8/12 at 6:58am
anyone know howto fix the rainbow effect on the projector/screen?


thank you
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post #4062 of 5228
4/8/12 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

anyone know howto fix the rainbow effect on the projector/screen?


thank you

unfortunatetly, if you see rainbows, there is probably not much you can do to fix it. certain people's eyes see them while others don't. i can see them if i move me eyes back and forth quickly, but i've had some people look at my screen (usually people who wear glasses) that see them constantly.
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post #4063 of 5228
4/9/12 at 1:03am
cvh, I'm using your 3D settings now and I like 'm! I have noticed (for games primarily) it's rather yellowish though. But it provides a good alternative for bright lamp mode!
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post #4064 of 5228
4/9/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by J3553 View Post

then that's strange. maybe it's because of the mounting/seating positions in my room.

i plan to get my screen replaced under warranty anyway because it has some lines in it that won't go away. maybe the other screen will be better.

i figured i'd follow-up on this...

i got the screen material replaced under warranty and i no longer have a hot spot/reflection. the new material is noticeably more matte in appearance and the corners were cut slightly different (closer to how it looks in the instruction manual). very strange, but i'm not complaining. everything looks the way it should now.
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post #4065 of 5228
4/9/12 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by shappy1010 View Post

cvh, I'm using your 3D settings now and I like 'm! I have noticed (for games primarily) it's rather yellowish though. But it provides a good alternative for bright lamp mode!

Yeah, im not a gamer so did not calibrate for 3d gaming. I use my LG led 55" with ps3 2d for my son. These 3d settings are strictly for 3d bluray. This projector keeps on amazing me. Gets better with age. Watched Tangled 3D WITH wife and son for the 3rd time and just gets better. Glad u like it.
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post #4066 of 5228
4/11/12 at 2:48pm
Optoma is now in possession of my HD3300 for a firmware update. I am curious to see if i get the "puremotion defaulting to on" glitch with 3d mode, even if it's turned off in the menu, once i am upgraded from C02. Also curious to see if it comes back with CO3 or CO4.
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post #4067 of 5228
4/12/12 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

Yeah, im not a gamer so did not calibrate for 3d gaming. I use my LG led 55" with ps3 2d for my son. These 3d settings are strictly for 3d bluray. This projector keeps on amazing me. Gets better with age. Watched Tangled 3D WITH wife and son for the 3rd time and just gets better. Glad u like it.

Cool, I bought mine for movies, but since I hooked up my PC I am gaming non-stop, games have much more depth then movies, and are the ultimate showcase. Trust me, give Trine 2 a shot, my wife said: this is not 3D but 5D !
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post #4068 of 5228
4/12/12 at 1:48pm
Well here is something interesting. I have the Optoma HD33 and the Optoma shutter glasses.

Before when I would lean my head back and look through the bottom portion of the glasses, I would get some ghosting. This was with a HDMI cable coming directly from the Blu-Ray player to the projector.

I just got a new Pioneer Elite A/V receiver (SC-55) and ran all my cables through there out to the projector.

I now no longer get the ghosting. Really weird. I didn't make any other changes. Apparently the Pioneer is doing something to the signal that corrects the issue.
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post #4069 of 5228
4/12/12 at 1:50pm
I've noticed in a couple of instances where my HD3300 is having a very hard time upscaling 720p, and I'm trying to determine if it is possibly an issue with my unit, or just a limitation of the device.

If I play my PS3, I have at least two games (Uncharted 3 and Borderlands 2) that can end up looking very fuzzy. It seems to be intermittent (not entirely sure on this yet), but I've definitely seen it with both. Additionally, there have been times when I've been watching ABC (local ABC via DirecTV) and I've noticed that the ABC logo in the lower left is freaking out on the edges, basically "flickering".

For the PS3 I've found that if I go in and tell the PS3 that my projector can not do 720p (forcing the PS3 to do the upscale) that the problems go away. I haven't messed with the DirecTV yet but I suspect the same "solution" would fix the problem.

I know it is not anything else in my chain. I've connected the PS3 directly to the HD3300 (bypassing my amp) and the problem goes away. Most of my sources I run through a video processor (DVDO VP-50), but since it can't handle 3D I can't use it for my PS3 or DirecTV anymore.

I've tried messing with all the video options in the projector menus (sharpness, etc) and nothing seems to help.

Any ideas (besides, of course, upgrading my video processor)? The problem specifically with the PS3 solution is when I uncheck the 720p option, the PS3 then decides I don't have a 3D display anymore (since I bypassed the "automatic" setup, I guess).
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post #4070 of 5228
4/12/12 at 3:55pm
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It's a 1080p projector I'd stay away from 720p. I run everthing in the through choice of my receiver. Everything but my 3d blu ray and HD-DVD player is set to 1080i. Players are set to 1080p 24fps.
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post #4071 of 5228
4/12/12 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

Optoma is now in possession of my HD3300 for a firmware update. I am curious to see if i get the "puremotion defaulting to on" glitch with 3d mode, even if it's turned off in the menu, once i am upgraded from C02. Also curious to see if it comes back with CO3 or CO4.

Keep us posted.
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post #4072 of 5228
4/13/12 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

It's a 1080p projector I'd stay away from 720p. I run everthing in the through choice of my receiver. Everything but my 3d blu ray and HD-DVD player is set to 1080i. Players are set to 1080p 24fps.

Most games are 720p on the PS3 & Xbox360 (in 2D) due to limitations of the graphic processing power. Only a high end PC can run games in 1080p 60hz at this time. In 3D it's always 720p on all platforms, as you need 60hz for games and HDMI 1.4/Optoma HD33 doesn't support 1080p 60Hz 3D.
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post #4073 of 5228
4/13/12 at 5:12am
Actually a lot of the games on XBox these days are 1080p. You really only saw 720p games in the beginning of the systems launch because 1080 TVs were rare and extremely pricy.
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post #4074 of 5228
4/13/12 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by ghost271 View Post

Actually a lot of the games on XBox these days are 1080p. You really only saw 720p games in the beginning of the systems launch because 1080 TVs were rare and extremely pricy.

Incorrect. Most games on PS3 and X360 are 720p with the unit's themselves upscale to 1080p. Yes, even if you set the console to output 1080p, the game is still rendered at 720p, upscaled, then output at 1080p. Very few games are native 1080p. There's simply not enough horsepower on the console side. Next gen consoles should resolve that issue.

PC gaming is a different story. Horsepower is limited to what you can afford.
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post #4075 of 5228
4/13/12 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Chris Blount View Post

Well here is something interesting. I have the Optoma HD33 and the Optoma shutter glasses.

Before when I would lean my head back and look through the bottom portion of the glasses, I would get some ghosting. This was with a HDMI cable coming directly from the Blu-Ray player to the projector.

I just got a new Pioneer Elite A/V receiver (SC-55) and ran all my cables through there out to the projector.

I now no longer get the ghosting. Really weird. I didn't make any other changes. Apparently the Pioneer is doing something to the signal that corrects the issue.

I get the head tilt/ghost with my Optoma glasses and Optoma GT750 projector. It is fairly minor and I felt it was due to the polarization angle of the lens not parallel to the reflected light from the screen. Apparently with the receiver in your mix there is some 'delay' now to the HDMI stream that helps with the ghosting. However this might come at a sacrifice of slight brightness. Do you notice that? Anyway it sounds like tuning the Optoma/BitCauldron glasses can somewhat alleviate the tilt/ghost issue (again might sacrifice a bit of brightness.)
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post #4076 of 5228
4/13/12 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by derek View Post

I get the head tilt/ghost with my Optoma glasses and Optoma GT750 projector. It is fairly minor and I felt it was due to the polarization angle of the lens not parallel to the reflected light from the screen. Apparently with the receiver in your mix there is some 'delay' now to the HDMI stream that helps with the ghosting. However this might come at a sacrifice of slight brightness. Do you notice that? Anyway it sounds like tuning the Optoma/BitCauldron glasses can somewhat alleviate the tilt/ghost issue (again might sacrifice a bit of brightness.)

i was thinking a shift in delay/brightness could be one of the only explanations for this as a receiver can't really "fix" ghosting per se.
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post #4077 of 5228
4/15/12 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by chucky08016 View Post

Incorrect. Most games on PS3 and X360 are 720p with the unit's themselves upscale to 1080p. Yes, even if you set the console to output 1080p, the game is still rendered at 720p, upscaled, then output at 1080p. Very few games are native 1080p. There's simply not enough horsepower on the console side. Next gen consoles should resolve that issue.

PC gaming is a different story. Horsepower is limited to what you can afford.

The Fox channel is 720p but I don't send 720p to the projector for the one channel. All shows go 1080i 60hz. I'd do the same with my Xbox. The Optoma is using a Pixelworks chip which has shown to be excellent. Just let the projector make the 1080i signal into 1080p.
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post #4078 of 5228
4/15/12 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by chucky08016 View Post

Incorrect. Most games on PS3 and X360 are 720p with the unit's themselves upscale to 1080p. Yes, even if you set the console to output 1080p, the game is still rendered at 720p, upscaled, then output at 1080p. Very few games are native 1080p. There's simply not enough horsepower on the console side. Next gen consoles should resolve that issue.

PC gaming is a different story. Horsepower is limited to what you can afford.

yeah, the markings on the back of most games are very misleading. most of them say 1080p for xbox when in fact they are being rendered at 720p.

and there are still a very high number of broadcast and cable channels that are 720p...Fox, any Fox Sports net affiliate, ABC, MLB Network, all of the ESPN channels..
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post #4079 of 5228
4/16/12 at 2:40am
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Yes but in the end it's best sending 1080i for all that stuff and 1080p 24fps for your blu ray 2D / 3D. You don't want to send 720p to this 1080p projector especially if you're seeing problems with 720p scaling.
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post #4080 of 5228
4/16/12 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Yes but in the end it's best sending 1080i for all that stuff and 1080p 24fps for your blu ray 2D / 3D. You don't want to send 720p to this 1080p projector especially if you're seeing problems with 720p scaling.

I'm not sure you can, I've never seen my PS3 upscale games to 1080i. My welcome screen is set to 1080p, but when you start a game it switches to 720p in 2D/3D. Come to think of it, I've never seen frame packed 1080 interlaced 3D (not on Nvidia 3DTV either).
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