New Optoma HD33 HD3300 1080p 3D Projector Review - Page 142

if I could live with blk projector, DrNegative is absolutley right. Great warranty and trust me, you will be glad you did when all hell breaks loose under warranty. Just a thought.

Nope. You're not going to notice the extra lumens and contrast to be very honest.


Nope. No lens shift. Only a digital V shift.

I'm in the same boat, ready to pull the trigger on a new projector, but the WAF means a white HD33 unit for me.

CVH, very nice, clean installation on the projector by the way. Can you comment on your screen ensemble in the distance on the 2nd photo? Is that a ready made kit, or did you rig the end supports for the screen?

Regarding corner blurring, I had this on my HD33 initially. I sent the unit back for a different problem but mentioned the corner blurriness and the tech said he'd check whether there is anything he could do, which it turns out there is. Apparently he could tweak a couple of internal settings and this proved to be very effective. I now have corner to corner sharpness. Pays to ask it seems

I remember your post way back. I was going to send it in then, but was enjoying my hd33 and didn't want to let it go. I finally sent mine in yesterday. Will be arriving there next Wednesday May 16. Thnx for the post. Because of it, I knew it could be fixed.

It is not a kit. I set it up this way in order to project at the right distance to fit my theater room. (really not a dedicated theater room. Don't have an extra room large enough for it. It is light controlled though, and once screen is down, feels like u at the movies. When screen goes up then back to our Den. I have an LG LED 55" TV to the left of the room for casual den viewing.) I have a very weird ceiling setup. It runs from 8ft high and runs diagonally up to like 16ft. Complicated layout to say the least.

The ceiling you see where the projector is actually mounted is the flat 8ft ceiling in our hallway which opens up from the den and kitchen. Weird I know. But it works. I also had to clear the fireplace because I hate looking up at a screen on the wall above the Fireplace. I set the screen at optimal eye level based on online calculations and came up with where the screen needed to be. Also in order to clear the fireplace if mounted on the wall above it, I would have had to build a wood beam about 20" out to clear fireplace. No thnx.

I am a videographer and an aspiring filmmaker so had background stands that hold backgrounds sheets for filming and picture taking. Worked perfectly. All I had to do is place the round steel hoop on the back of the housing then on top of the Stands which has a 3" high 1/4" dia. steel holder. That's it. Stands holds the sucker up. if I need to take it down, just raise screen housing up off the stands in case I have a large social. Very Portable. Usually is actually stays there all the time. No nuts or bolts to loosen. The Screen is 125" Elite motorized and 12volt triggered with 1.2 gain. Projector 14ft away from screen and seating right under projector. Attached a few pics. No projector in pics because sent it in for adjustments.

Okay way to much info, but hope this sparks others to share their setups with pics and such.

Hi Tom, I have read through the entire thread which is one of the reasons why I ended up going with the HD3300. I should have added that after comparing both the HD33 and the HD3300, "to my eyes", the difference between the two is minimal.

Well you have me curious about that anyways

So i went back and tried CVH's 3d settings again and they looked better than what I had after recalibrating, except that I have to have contrast at -20 to avoid crushing whites (and have brightness at -5 instead of -4). I wonder why my contrast setting is so much different?

I only noticed it during the planet animation sequence of the Imax "ultimate wave tahiti" where there is a closeup of a hurricane eye, and the storm system was entirely white instead of showing the rotation/eye detail.

Ok. I never stated that I did any technical tests nor would I ever. I was just stating my opinion, that's all and I still stand by my opinion that to my eyes, the difference was minimal.

By all means, test away and say what you find out. The public should listen to both (your facts and others people opinions) and make their own mind up.

The HD3300 is still by far the better value based off of warranty alone and the fact that it's built with the best parts available. Everything else is a bonus.

Hi guitarman,
Can you tell me if the extra brightness of the HD3300 can be used in 3D mode for a brighter 3D picture ? By that I mean, are all 3D modes "Locked In Presets, that won't let you raise the brightness level of the projector, so you can't take advantage of the projectors extra lumens for 3D ?

I am sure the HD3300 is a no brainer. Both are fantastic projectors I am Sure. If I had the time and money, i would love to invest in ISF Calibration Equip. and light meters and such. But, I am with chucky08016 that if you can tweak settings visually and find a setting that you just love and works for you, nothing else matters. I have always eyeballed visually on all my video gear, lcd tv's, camera monitors as well as our churches projector screens and Pro Panasonic studio cameras and all video monitors for our video production there. All done visually and everybody loves it. Takes time yes, but it is all about what you see or perceive to see that is pleasing to your eye.

I believe guitarman is a videophile/audiophile who perceives, thinks and sees in calculations, numbers, patterns and such. I take my hat off to him and all he has done for us in this thread. Heck, he started it! Guitarman, if you say it, I believe it 100%. Thank you sir.

For us non videophile, audiophile or pro techies, i am happy with how I do things and have never been disappointed in what i see or what I can live with once I have achieved my liking and am finally satisfied. As of right now after all my video equipment been tweaked, I have not altered or tampered with any since, and that includes my HD33. Well, until the next time I buy a new video toy

Just a note: I use STD lamp mode for 3D on HD33. That might be the cause. Not sure. If u have HD3300 that may also change things. I also have Imax Ultimate wave and will chk it out on that animation.Well, that is when I receive my beloved HD33 from Optoma. Really miss it already.

Cheers shappy1010!

Anyone out there caused any issues with their glasses using this utility?

If anyone wants a free calibration on the hd33 with a NIST cert'd C6 colorimeter, shoot me a PM. The hd33 is one of the last projectors I haven't had a chance to test much from this year.

Ok Thanks guitarman,
So both the HD33 & HD3300 have this boost in 3D mode correct ?
But you do feel the HD3300 does have an edge over the HD33 in 3D brightness ?

Guitarman - any chance you can post the factory 3d settings for us?

I think the boost in the default mode blows out the whites. I'm having to dial down to -20 for white detail to stay intact. It looked really good until you have a scene with a lot of high white detail and I was shocked how much detail was being blown out at any 3d contrast setting higher than -20 to -17.

i think it's a great disc to help check out 3d settings. that animation sequence in the beginning is some AMAZING 3d, and that closeup of the hurricane swirling is a nice white level check. like i said, your modified 3d settings looked great to me, i just noticed a lot of white crushing there and had to dial way down (and i had your settings on low lamp mode).

Funny, I just dont see any blown whites in any movie in 3D. I will chk though and dial down contrast to -20. I think I tried that way back, but made image too flat and dark. I will let you know. Man I miss my HD33. Tonight is movie night. Crapola.

well i didn't realize there were any blown out whites until that one exact scene on that one disc. maybe it's unusually bright. everything looked right before that with your settings. it does look darker on my new settings, but since i have to dial down to -23 in 2d to avoid blown out whites, who knows.

when i was on C02 my settings were not that low, and i wasn't crushing whites.

Oleus:

Try this 3D Setting. It may be way to warm, might have to Tweak.
Dont test with "Tahiti Ultimate Wave" first. Test last.
Fantastic DEEP BLK Levels. I bit crushed I think.
Great place to start.
I personally did not like it, closely matched 2d on my LG which is ISF calibrated.
I rather prefer the blue end of the spectrum, not red.

This 3D setting does the following:*
1. Remove the green tint from glasses on RF Optoma Glasses. DLP link cant say. Dont have one.
2. enhances shadow detail and gives darker blk levels. Avoids blown whites.
3. brightens up 3D image
4. matches my 55 LED LG TV which is ISF calibrated for 2D

LAMP MODE: STD (saves on bulb life and reduces fan noise due to Projector working extra hard for 3D)
DISPLAY MODE: User

CONTRAST: -20
BRIGHTNESS: -4 (if too dark, Increase to preference, but kills the blk level a touch.)
SHARPNESS: 12
COLOR: 20
TINT: 0

ADVANCED:
GAMMA:
film Gamma
Film Curve type: -7 Offset: +3

PURE ENGINE:
Pure Motion: low
Pure Detail: off
Pure Color: 3 (adjust to preference)

COLOR SETTINGS:
Color Temp: Cold

RGB BIAS/GAIN:
Red Gain: -17
Green Gain: -16
Blue Gain: -2
Red Bias: -2
Green Bias: -5
Blue Bias: +1

This is not set in stone. I played around with it when I first got my HD33.
I reverted back to my original 3D setting. Remember, you will like pros of each user setting. But cant have both.
It is what you can live with and don't look back, otherwise you will never be satisfied. It will end up driving you crazy. I know.

I am Happy with what I finally settled on and now can enjoy 3D.

i'll check this setting out ! contrast and brightness are exactly where i have mine set, i'll try the other parameters and report back

i haven't tried them, but those settings seem bananas to me. i mean the 3d image is a little too dark as it is. seems like standard lamp mode would make it unwatchable. and with those color settings, i don't see how colors could be accurate at all.

maybe i'll give them a shot this weekend. just bought a handful of new 3d movies.

well like experienced yesterday, the brighter 3d image was blowing out the whites and i didn't even know it until i started testing certain scenes!

i was actually pretty shocked how much i had to dial down the contrast to get back details in the whites (scenes like bright clouds in the sky, etc)...stuff I didn't even know was there on certain discs.