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post #4441 of 5304
Could have just been the calibration.
post #4442 of 5304
Yes it could but I guess I dont know. Maybe after I see a few, I will get a better perspective. Ateast I know that the ones I have mentioned are regarded well in their categories.
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The Mits hc4000 has good OOTB color, the Benq w1200 does not as it needs HEAVILY calibrated before it will look anything near accurate. The w1200 looks exceptional after calibration though.
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Could have just been the calibration.

do i calibate the glasses or the menu on the projector?
post #4445 of 5304
You are judging the color through the glasses, well that's not easy to do because there are too many factors involved. You calibrate the menu, some glasses have some tweaking though to make the image brighter. I don't own this projector nor the glasses, so someone else should answer you.

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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

when u play any 3d movies that has popup, do u see any of it? because when i play it, i dont see any of it.

Get Imax: Under the Sea for some really FAR pop-outs (right to your nose), if you do not see POP-OUT when the carp and snakes swim at you, then something is wrong with your setup. The carp will literally be so close to you use that it is scary.
post #4446 of 5304
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

The Mits hc4000 has good OOTB color, the Benq w1200 does not as it needs HEAVILY calibrated before it will look anything near accurate. The w1200 looks exceptional after calibration though.

I see, excuse my ignorance. By calibration you mean adjusting the settings mannualy using a calibrating DVD..something I can do?
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

when u play any 3d movies that has popup, do u see any of it? because when i play it, i dont see any of it.

Because of this Issue, I bought the PANASONIC 3D Player. It has a Slider for more depth and a silder for more popup. I used to have Nvidea vision setup with Nvidea glasses running through HTPC with Nvidea graphics card back in the day. It also had a slider.

This may help. I also find that sitting further away from the screen really makes popup much better. I honestly like depth a lot more than popup. Dimension is more important than to me than popup. George lucas and James Cameron or staying away from popup and concentrating on dimension for Phantom Menace and Titanic. That's what they said in an interview I saw.
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Originally Posted by Ventera View Post

Hi, I am new to projectors scene and need advice before I purchase please.

For this projector's 3D capabilities to work, does one require a certain "silver coated" screen or will any screen do due to it being an active projector?

I have stone cladding on my walls so I can't paint a screen with the available "3D silverscreen" paint on the market, so I need to get a pulldown screen.

I can't find special 3D silverscreens locally, just the normal/general white ones.

Thanks in advance

Any screen should work for you for 3D. I'd tell you to get a white kingsized bedsheet and throw the image on to that first before you decide what size (or type) screen to purchase. 3D comes through fine on a bed sheet, it can only improve with better quality screen material. I'm new to PJ's as well so take my advice for what it's worth. :-)
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

I bought the PANASONIC 3D Player. It has a Slider for more depth and a silder for more popup.

Which model panasonic do you have. Do you know if all the Panasonic 3d Blu-Ray players have that feature ?
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Originally Posted by The big picture View Post


Which model panasonic do you have. Do you know if all the Panasonic 3d Blu-Ray players have that feature ?

I HAVE THE Panasonic DMP-BDT210 WHICH HAS GOTTEN RAVE REVIEWS. I only buy Panasonic players. Had pannie bluray player bf this and was awesome. 3D player the same. The only difference between mine and the DMP-BDT310 is that 310 has 2 hdmi outputs.

I use to use my PS3 for 3D and was not satisfied with image. No pic controls. Sold my old bluray pannie and bought 3D one. Made a huge difference in 3D. In pannie menu I set gamma from light to dark for 3D WHICH GAVE ME super blk levels and contrast. To me the bluray players are just as important as the HD33 or any projecter IMO.
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

I HAVE THE Panasonic DMP-BDT210 WHICH HAS GOTTEN RAVE REVIEWS. The only difference between mine and the DMP-BDT310 is that 310 has 2 hdmi outputs.

Hey cvh,
At my local stores they carry the DMP-BDT220 & DMP-BDT320.
Do you know if they also have the Slider for depth and silder for pop-out ?
Was not shure what to look for to find out.
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

Because of this Issue, I bought the PANASONIC 3D Player. It has a Slider for more depth and a silder for more popup. I used to have Nvidea vision setup with Nvidea glasses running through HTPC with Nvidea graphics card back in the day. It also had a slider.

This may help. I also find that sitting further away from the screen really makes popup much better. I honestly like depth a lot more than popup. Dimension is more important than to me than popup. George lucas and James Cameron or staying away from popup and concentrating on dimension for Phantom Menace and Titanic. That's what they said in an interview I saw.

does it matter if i buy either DLP glasses or RF glasses? do u know what is the problem? glasses, projector or the movies? all of the above?
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Originally Posted by The big picture View Post


Hey cvh,
At my local stores they carry the DMP-BDT220 & DMP-BDT320.
Do you know if they also have the Slider for depth and silder for pop-out ?
Was not shure what to look for to find out.

YES, the 220 has the slider. I looked at the Panasonic website and viewed the manual. 220 seems to be a newer version. The 210 has 4 stars with 886 reviews. The 220 has 4 stars from 100 reviews on amazon.
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

does it matter if i buy either DLP glasses or RF glasses? do u know what is the problem? glasses, projector or the movies? all of the above?

I will tell you that I saw the avengers 3d at imax theater and it looked similar to my 3d setup. The movie had very few, if not any, popups. Mostly depth.
each movie is different. Puss in boots had amazing depth. Tintin sucked. Each movie I watch has very view popups and mostly depth. Yes deep sea has carp and snakes close, but not much else. Depends on the movie. Whether dlp links work better than rf's. I don't know. I love rf's and pic to me looks fantastic. They are super comfortable. Dlp links have great pic but uncomfortable imo.

where does the problem come from? Ourselves. How you perceive 3d. There is no perfect 3d movie. Some are better than others. I would not mess with glasses or emitter. Does very little and can screw up your setup.

if hd33 is the issue, I don't see it. I would blame it on movies. The slider on pannie will not solve the problem of more popup or depth, just enhance it. If I feel a 3d movie is a little off in depth or popup, I adjust the 3d slider to help correct it a little. Most of the time it does. Some movies I crank slider to max for depth or max for popup or find a good balance. In tintin, using the slider to extremes causes ghosting.

hope this helps.
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are you talking about imax: deep sea?

it sucks cause i thought when i buy the pj and the screen, i will have a lot of popup on the movies. but this is not the case.

i am wondering do u have a 2d setting for it?

i already bought a ND2 filter for it. cause 2d setting (cienma ) is too bright for any movies and cable box.
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Originally Posted by DoyleS View Post

My HD3300 shut down last night. I have had the unit about a month and it has 44 hrs on the lamp. Last night about 3-4 minutes after powering it up, a message came on the screen saying "Fan Failure" and it shut down. At this point there was a blinking red light on the back of the projector. Figuring the lamp did not have proper cooling so it shut down, I waited a couple hours and the red light was still blinking and it would not power up. This morning the light still blinking and I unplugged the unit. Plugged it back in after a few minutes and still got the blinking red light. The unit is ceiling mounted so I reached up and pressed the power button next to the red light and the light turned Blue. Tried powering up with the remote and it powered up normally. Felt airflow and could hear a fan running lowly which may be normal as I have never noticed the fan noise before. When I pressed the Power Off button the screen that came up with the notice to press Power Off again also had a Red Exclamation mark on the left side of the notice. I tried to see if there was some way to access a message regarding this but could not find anything in the menu about it.

Anyone having a similar experience or tips please post them. At this point it is operating what appears to be normally but will keep a close watch on it.

I have just purchased my HD33 and just had to stop watching (our 2nd night) after about 2.5 to 3 hours since the above also happened to me. Fan failure message and flashing red light. I will let it cool until morning, and try your reset procedure, but I am most concerned since this error message is not even mentioned in the manual. My unit is brand new so fully covered under warranty but would love to avoid that hassle if this is familiar to anyone. Would appreciate any and all advise.

Kind regards,
William (new to this forum, but this is my 2nd generation Optoma).
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Thanks for this suggestion, cant wait now for my projector
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

are you talking about imax: deep sea?

No, I am talking about Imax: Under the Sea (they are 2 different movies). Here is the link (Under the Sea at Amazon)...

I have a Samsung Bluray player with no POP-OUT adjustment, and I don't have any issues with POP-OUTS in 3D. There are some movies with very few pop-outs, but some have numerous.

In my setup when watching Under the sea, there are scenes where the fish is literally a few inches from my face and it could bite me if it wanted to. There are also scenes that are only depth, but there are several FISH pop-outs.
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i am wondering how big can i get if the pj and screen is between 11ft .

and what is the mim. and max. distance to watch 3d bluray?
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My projector is 14 feet from a 125" screen at 1.1 Gain. I sit right under it at 13ft from eye to screen. Might want to go 100inch screen. Check calculator at projector Central: Will give an accurate distance and screen size. or maybe close. For 3D I actually move couch to 15ft from eye to screen. I find that moving back gives a better popup and 3D effect.
Just my 2 cents, others may have different variations.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator.cfm
Edited by cvh - 6/6/12 at 7:31am
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i dont know how many inches am i watch? but when i move close to the screen (10-11ft). i can see the popup.

i am wondering does it make any difference if i buy the 3d bluray player for popup slider so i can see it.
Edited by audionewer - 6/6/12 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

i dont know how many inches am i watch? but when i move close to the screen (10-11ft). i can see the popup.
i am wondering does it make any difference if i buy the 3d bluray player for popup slider so i can see it.

If u Happy with popup, i would say dont buy it. Use what u have. No need to buy new player if you are satisfied with popup and 3D effect. I stand for a correction. I meant to say "under the sea" and not "Deep see" I have not watched "Deep Sea" yet. It got good reviews.

I need to Clarify my statement a few threads Back.

Each 3D movie has a different percentage of Popup. Some Scenes in a particular movie may have 50% pop out and others scenes may have 30% pop out. and then 25% to as little as 10%. So some scenes in a movie look crazy close, like carp and snakes and turtle in "Under the Sea" Carp is Definitively close you can touch the thing. Scared the crap out of me when carp came close.

Another example recently when watching "How to Train A Dragon" by Dreamworks. The opening scene you always see of the Little Boy Sitting on the crescent moon with his fishing pole and line and flicks it down. Well in 3D he whips the line and it flies towards the screen and literally hits your face. I jumped.

Made our family jump back. Hope this makes sense.
Edited by cvh - 6/6/12 at 8:29am
post #4463 of 5304
thats kind of scary that there are two recent reports here of "fan failure" on new units. i would suggest sending those units in for repair or replacement, those symptoms to not bode well for long-term stability of those particular units.

as for different perceptions of 3d , i agree with CVH. some titles people are raved about for popout (harold and kumar) seemed to have almost no pop on my setup while other lesser-heralded titles had both impressive depth and popout when I watched them. i thought harold and kumar looked like a poorly shot video with gimmicky 3d popout filmed and processed incorrectly.

for truly great 3d i still think the 2.35:1 aspect ratio hurts the 3d effect in a home theater environment (unless you have a 2.35:1 screen)... the best 3d i've seen at home has all been 1.85:1.
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

thats kind of scary that there are two recent reports here of "fan failure" on new units. i would suggest sending those units in for repair or replacement, those symptoms to not bode well for long-term stability of those particular units.

I agree .. it does not make me feel well, being the owner of one of these units. I followed the advise of the first person who had this problem, to reset it after and it appeared to work, as I was able to get my projector menu on the display .. however, this apparently was not the final of my problem resolution. I spent last night wrestling with it not being able to recognize it's single source of input (HDMI) and could only surmise that this was related to the 'fan failure' error received the night before. After giving it some time for problem resolution and doing a couple of factory resets, it finally came around and is now working well. I will do another 3 hour+ movie run (when wife allows) and then try longer before I will feel comfortable. I have talked to Optomo in Freemont California who is happy to have me send it in for an overhaul, and I will possibly do that soon if one more 'glitch' occurs.

As of this moment ... it is working well ...
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This projector sold a lot of units (look at thread size and number of views), so it's a very popular projector so we're going to hear quite a few problems. Happens in every high-volume sales projector thread, you should see the older posts when everyone first got their Epson 8350's or 3010's. I think the projector probably isn't the most reliable, but it's probably average at least.
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Well, after resetting it and getting some viewing out of it last night, it is again on the fritz, not recognizing any sources although I only have HDMI. I do think that the 'fan failure' error, whatever that was, caused a problem with the source interfaces. Anyway, other than playing with the menu, and resetting it multiple times, and getting test patterns. I can't get anything out of my new HD33. Will have to call Optomo in the morning and either ship it off to them (California, close by) or find a local service tech that they will authorize. Don't really want to ship it all the way to the east coast where I bought it.

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So, just got done watching "Journey to the center of the earth" Verdict, freaking awesome. read reviews that 3D was good. well no, its great. You want popup and depth on equal levels, buy this sucker. Those who like popup will not be disappointed..I bought it from BB for $19. Still on sale. Wife and son were constantly moving and trying to grab the image. Now this has way more pop than i have seen so far. depth very good too.
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

So, just got done watching "Journey to the center of the earth" Verdict, freaking awesome. read reviews that 3D was good. well no, its great. You want popup and depth on equal levels, buy this sucker. Those who like popup will not be disappointed..I bought it from BB for $19. Still on sale. Wife and son were constantly moving and trying to grab the image. Now this has way more pop than i have seen so far. depth very good too.

Cvh,

you can buy this movies;

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/A-Turtles-Tale-Sammys-Adventures-3D-Blu-ray/24045/

this movies has alot of popup but this movies only avilable oversea and it is region B. if u have pansonic, i can give u the link region free hack for it.
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Thread Starter 
You got a good high speed HDMI cable? Also a high speed from the 3D player?
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anyone here use htpc for 3d movies and 2d movies. if so, how do u guys setup CCC for disable underscan/overscan ?

how do i get 1:1 pixel maps also do work?
Edited by audionewer - 6/6/12 at 9:15pm
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