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post #4471 of 5236
6/6/12 at 9:53pm
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Cvh,
you can buy this movies;
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/A-Turtles-Tale-Sammys-Adventures-3D-Blu-ray/24045/

this movies has alot of popup but this movies only avilable oversea and it is region B. if u have pansonic, i can give u the link region free hack for it.

Thanks for the info. I would only buy it for my son who is 5. im sure he will love it.
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post #4472 of 5236
6/7/12 at 11:58am
So I bought a calibration disk with advanced calibration tools and after a couple of days tweaking to specifications of Brightness, Contrast, Hue, Color, Chroma, Gama, Sharpness, and so on and so on. Was a Very detailed testing disk. Well, I came to an opinion and observation:

Now, I may have done it incorrectly but I don't believe I did. I am sure Guitarman will respond to this and please do.

Well at the end of it all, the image looks good but the black levels really suffered. I ended up with a dark gray. Looks awful.
White clipping was not an issue at all, in fact not even close to white clipping unless a video was shot overexposed.

Blacks were hard to keep ideal blk solid. So I kept the chroma and color settings because I felt they were better than what i had. Colors are accurate and natural. Whites still very good. But Black sucks. Is this what blacks are supposed to look like after HD33 calibration. I went back to my original settings I posted a while back except for changing new color and Hue and Gamma settings. Blacks came back nice and deep with not much crushing and loosing detail. I guess this is a trade off hey.

Well, I would rather have darker blacks, loosing a little detail in shadows than nasty dark gray. Contrast not an issue at all.
So, at the end of the day, calibrating was fun and informative, but to me, it is what is pleasing to your eye that ultimately counts.

Also did a Purity, uniformity, focus and hotspots testing with Calibration Disk and was shocked at how good it looks on my new projector after receiving it from optoma. Very Pleased with image. Difference is night and day compared to old projector.

FYI, my new projector does a fabulous Job with Stock settings for 3D. I actually dissed my old settings and the new Picture is way better.
I really think it is the replaced HD33 that has made a big difference.

If optoma service techs are reading this post, I thank you all for keeping me as a satisfied customer and giving me excellent customer service. It makes a huge difference.
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post #4473 of 5236
6/7/12 at 12:28pm
has anyone here ever opted for the swap option where they send you a replacement right away with an authorization hold on a card? just wondering how prompt they are about removing the hold when they receive the original projector.
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post #4474 of 5236
6/7/12 at 1:39pm
ps to CVH - any chance you could post the default 3d settings for me? i would like to keep those as one of my saved settings for comparison purposes.

i decided just to keep my Hd3300 and not swap it out. i haven't had any more lockups, and since i have good focus and no other issues i sort of feel apprehensive about changing. but it was cool of Optoma to offer. definitely seems like their customer service has improved.
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post #4475 of 5236
6/7/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

So I bought a calibration disk with advanced calibration tools and after a couple of days tweaking to specifications of Brightness, Contrast, Hue, Color, Chroma, Gama, Sharpness, and so on and so on. Was a Very detailed testing disk. Well, I came to an opinion and observation:
Now, I may have done it incorrectly but I don't believe I did. I am sure Guitarman will respond to this and please do.
Well at the end of it all, the image looks good but the black levels really suffered. I ended up with a dark gray. Looks awful.
White clipping was not an issue at all, in fact not even close to white clipping unless a video was shot overexposed.
Blacks were hard to keep ideal blk solid. So I kept the chroma and color settings because I felt they were better than what i had. Colors are accurate and natural. Whites still very good. But Black sucks. Is this what blacks are supposed to look like after HD33 calibration. I went back to my original settings I posted a while back except for changing new color and Hue and Gamma settings. Blacks came back nice and deep with not much crushing and loosing detail. I guess this is a trade off hey.
Well, I would rather have darker blacks, loosing a little detail in shadows than nasty dark gray. Contrast not an issue at all.
So, at the end of the day, calibrating was fun and informative, but to me, it is what is pleasing to your eye that ultimately counts.
Also did a Purity, uniformity, focus and hotspots testing with Calibration Disk and was shocked at how good it looks on my new projector after receiving it from optoma. Very Pleased with image. Difference is night and day compared to old projector.
FYI, my new projector does a fabulous Job with Stock settings for 3D. I actually dissed my old settings and the new Picture is way better.
I really think it is the replaced HD33 that has made a big difference.
If optoma service techs are reading this post, I thank you all for keeping me as a satisfied customer and giving me excellent customer service. It makes a huge difference.

i am wondering what setting do i need to be change in ur setting and what is to be kept? smile.gif
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post #4476 of 5236
6/7/12 at 8:15pm
3D HD33 Stock Settings Out the Box

LAMP MODE: BRIGHT
DISPLAY MODE: 3D

CONTRAST: +7
BRIGHTNESS: 0
SHARPNESS: 12
COLOR: 12
TINT: 0

ADVANCED:
GAMMA: Graphic
Gamma Curve type: -6
Offset: 0

PURE ENGINE:
Pure Motion: Low
Pure Detail: 1
Pure Color: Off

COLOR SETTINGS:
Color Temp: Medium

RGB BIAS/GAIN:
Red Gain: +2
Green Gain: 0
Blue Gain: +1
Red Bias: +2
Green Bias: 0
Blue Bias: 1
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post #4477 of 5236
6/7/12 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

i am wondering what setting do i need to be change in ur setting and what is to be kept? smile.gif

Will let you know as soon as I do more testing. Using a few reference movies for results. Thnx
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post #4478 of 5236
6/7/12 at 9:06pm
Hey Guys. I started a New Thread basically dealing with HD33 - HD3300 Personal User Settings.
I think there are a lot of you who will be interested in this Thread. Between this forum and settings will help find stuff easier.

I started with GUITARMAN ORIGINAL SETTINGS. Hope you dont mind GMAN

If you have settings to share, please post. or try the settings already posted.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414427/optoma-hd33-hd3300-personal-user-settings
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post #4479 of 5236
6/7/12 at 9:18pm
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The film settings are from day one with a new lamp. The Standard gamma settings are from a broken in lamp. Standard gamma delivers a darker black a has more contrast. But mainly I still use the Film day one settings. Things look pretty good to me.
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post #4480 of 5236
6/8/12 at 7:47am
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The film settings are from day one with a new lamp. The Standard gamma settings are from a broken in lamp. Standard gamma delivers a darker black a has more contrast. But mainly I still use the Film day one settings. Things look pretty good to me.

Because I received a new Projector from Optoma, I took your settings and did a comparison switching back and forth to see difference. Because your settings are calibrated to the best possible picture out of the HD33OO due to professional Calibration specs, I decided to give it a try once again. I found that, although gray scale, gamma, no white clips or black crushing looked correct, I just cant seem to get passed the Subtle green tint and flat, darkened image. Maybe it is using an HD33 or having A 125" 1.1 GAIN Screen

Now I know each projector is different and without really seeing yours in person, I cant tell what is accurate or not. Are you using 106"1.1gain still or high power screen?

When I calibrated the HD33 with old setting I had, I did notice white clipping, so I adjusted that. I also found that color was over saturated with Color at 20 and using PureColor set to 1. So I adjusted that with blue filter for accurate Chroma values. Gave a more natural look. I just could not get Gamma to 2.2, I got 1.6. Finally, I achieved a new setting with good blacks and no Clipping to keep image with pop from background removing the flat image, with a little more intensity in pop. The only thing that really changed was overall color shift and a little less saturation which made the image a little less intense. PLS, All this is Subjective and are User Opinions and Observations..

I have not tried WINDSHIFTS Settings yet, or any others on this thread if there are more out there. If so, post on forum for "HD33 / HD3300 User Settings"

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414427/optoma-hd33-hd3300-personal-user-settings
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post #4481 of 5236
6/8/12 at 10:15am
does anyone know the "expected" lifespan of these bulbs? and whether or not it's an easy procedure with these units to replace the bulb??
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post #4482 of 5236
6/8/12 at 3:24pm
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"Now I know each projector is different and without really seeing yours in person, I cant tell what is accurate or not. Are you using 106"1.1gain still or high power screen?"

Same screen but I didn't tune to the screen I could have. I have two sensors the Trichromat which would face the projector and the Gregtag goes to a screen. The Tri=chromat is very fast and easy to use so I use that mostly with good results. Lately I use the THX optimizer for finding the darkest black. It's very easy to spot that 7th box and finding the spot where you can barely see it. You have to close your eyes a few times to reset your focus for it.

You might make use of this again -

"Here's a tip on how to adjust the grayscale with the RGB/gains and bias.

With your HD-DVE disc display the brightness pluge pattern. Use the RGB gain to take color bias out of the lighter gray boxes, use the RGB bias to take the color out of the darker boxes. The tones should all look steely gray - no pinks or greens or bluish tones. When the graystep boxes all look gray your colors should look more natural.

Lets say you see pink in the light graysteps in small amounts move the Blue gain and Green gain up and evenly a couple of steps at a time till the light grays look gray with no color tone. Lets say you see green in the dark gray steps, move the Green Bias down a couple of steps at a time till the green is out. Then retune the basic user brightness and contrast.

Before you start you should toggle through the color temp choices while looking at the brightness patterns gray steps. Find the one that has the least color bias, then use the RGB advanced gain/bias."


You should see that the color looks pretty nice here, plus the contrast.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d4.jpg
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post #4483 of 5236
6/8/12 at 7:35pm
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Ghost Rider 3D June 12th probably a worthy buy.
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post #4484 of 5236
6/8/12 at 8:57pm
great detailed info gman. Will tweak some more with ur steps. Thnx.
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post #4485 of 5236
6/9/12 at 8:29am
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Ghost Rider 3D June 12th probably a worthy buy.

Think again, It was a terrible movie the 3D was good in spots but not enough to warrant watching it again. Honestly it is worse than the third X-men film
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post #4486 of 5236
6/9/12 at 1:43pm
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Everybody here flipped for the Gost Rider Trailer in front of the Underworld 3D movie, me included. You think it's going to look worse then that great Trailer.
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post #4487 of 5236
6/9/12 at 2:54pm
the ND Filer just arrived today. how doi put the ND Filter on to the projector?
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post #4488 of 5236
6/9/12 at 3:07pm
Hi everyone , I have an optoma hd 80 that has been pretty good to me for a few years now but I have been thinking of maybe getting into 3d . How has the 33 ,3300 been. Any major issues? Are you guys happy so far or are you regretting your purchase? Has something else come out lately around the same price that I should also look at? Any info is appreciated.
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post #4489 of 5236
6/9/12 at 4:48pm
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Everybody here flipped for the Gost Rider Trailer in front of the Underworld 3D movie, me included. You think it's going to look worse then that great Trailer.

It has some great 3D moments but that is all the movie is good for and no matter how good it looks you can tell it was a rushed mess of a film really disappointing considering how well the recent marvel films have been put together.
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the ND Filer just arrived today. how doi put the ND Filter on to the projector?

Painters tape is what i'm using so far it work well.
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post #4490 of 5236
6/9/12 at 4:54pm
do u have a pic so i can see it ? how do u put it?
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post #4491 of 5236
6/9/12 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by miamioutlaw04 View Post

Hi everyone , I have an optoma hd 80 that has been pretty good to me for a few years now but I have been thinking of maybe getting into 3d . How has the 33 ,3300 been. Any major issues? Are you guys happy so far or are you regretting your purchase? Has something else come out lately around the same price that I should also look at? Any info is appreciated.

It's the best budget 1080p 3D projector you can get. No lag, no ghosts, vibrant colorful images in 3D and 2D. Blacks and contrast are great. Optoma should have charged more for this projector - glad they didn't.

I'm at 800 hours and haven't seen a problem, a huge amount of people have bought this projector with not many complaints.
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post #4492 of 5236
6/10/12 at 7:55am
I bought the hd33 as my first projector from amazon last month for the incredible price of 1057.00 Absolutely love the projector and really never want to watch my 50 inch plasma 3d anymore.Ihave it my dedicated basement home theater room and it really shines.one of my best toys ever
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post #4493 of 5236
6/10/12 at 7:59am
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Hi everyone , I have an optoma hd 80 that has been pretty good to me for a few years now but I have been thinking of maybe getting into 3d . How has the 33 ,3300 been. Any major issues? Are you guys happy so far or are you regretting your purchase? Has something else come out lately around the same price that I should also look at? Any info is appreciated.


like gman said. It is an amazing proj. For the prize. 3d is mindblowing. This coming from me using a HTPC with nvidea vision and then the optoma XL. No where close to this optoma HD33. Image detailed, colors acurate when calibrated and absolutley no ghosting or RBE. Best purchase made to date.
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post #4494 of 5236
6/10/12 at 10:10am
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does anyone know the "expected" lifespan of these bulbs? and whether or not it's an easy procedure with these units to replace the bulb??

From Projector Central:


Light Source: Type:
230W Osram
Life: 3000 hours
Eco-Mode Life: 4000 hours

List price is $249
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post #4495 of 5236
6/10/12 at 8:29pm
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The good news is I'm approaching 1000 hours and still the image is super bright in econo mode.
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post #4496 of 5236
6/10/12 at 9:54pm
so, just finished watching "John Carter" in 3D. Verdict, fantastic movie. The depth in this movie is great. No popups, just scope and depth. Landscapes awesome, looking from a mountain top below, you can actually feel the height. Now, I will say that the 3D was okay viewing with standard 3D settings on bluray, so this is where I utilized the depth slider in the Panasonic dmp-bd210. Slid depth to -2 and just gave it a little what it seemed to lack. Movie scenery and scope just jaw dropping after that. I know I pushed the pannie in a previous thread, but I will say, the slider has really made the difference between a good 3d movie to awesome 3D movie. Just opinions and observations. John Carter a must see 3D movie.
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post #4497 of 5236
6/11/12 at 12:19am
I just bought a referb. hd3300, the unit has locked up a few times, not a good sign, also, after changing the settings then going into 3d mode,the projector loses all settings.
Firmware is C04.

I bought the hi-shock d-link glasses and use my Ps3 as my source
I'm guessing one of the above is contributing to the average 3d I am seeing, in dark scenes, there seems to be a mirror effect off of a light colors.This happens often to the point where im not even watching 3d anymore.
Every one here seem to be very happy with their 3d, any suggestion?

plus, I am not a fan of pure motion's film like quality so in 3d mode when I turned pure motion off, everything becomes noticeably choppy.

anyone?
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post #4498 of 5236
6/11/12 at 4:56am
I have the ps3 and a HTPC running Power DVD 10 and could never get a good 3d picture. I just got a Panasonic bd110 referbished for under $100 made a world of difference in 3d and color.
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post #4499 of 5236
6/11/12 at 6:41am
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I have the ps3 and a HTPC running Power DVD 10 and could never get a good 3d picture. I just got a Panasonic bd110 referbished for under $100 made a world of difference in 3d and color.

I used to use the PS3 for 3D, but was not happy like you. I bought the Panasonic dmp-bd210 and made a huge difference. Has a depth and pop slider. I am a huge fan of Panny bluray players, have always used one. Also, not all movies need to be adjusted by player. Some just great with standard settings, like Journey to the center of the earth and Imax Hubble and under sea and wave Tahiti.
Edited by cvh - 6/11/12 at 9:36am
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post #4500 of 5236
6/11/12 at 6:43am
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I just bought a referb. hd3300, the unit has locked up a few times, not a good sign, also, after changing the settings then going into 3d mode,the projector loses all settings.
Firmware is C04.
I bought the hi-shock d-link glasses and use my Ps3 as my source
I'm guessing one of the above is contributing to the average 3d I am seeing, in dark scenes, there seems to be a mirror effect off of a light colors.This happens often to the point where im not even watching 3d anymore.
Every one here seem to be very happy with their 3d, any suggestion?
plus, I am not a fan of pure motion's film like quality so in 3d mode when I turned pure motion off, everything becomes noticeably choppy.
anyone?

The mirror effect you talk about is prevalent in some movies. It is usually the blacks that seem to mirror slightly. I do not notice it at all for 3D animated movies. Stock 3d has pure motion set to 1. 3D stock best setting for 3D. Movies I noticed that has it is Transformers, Avatar and movies that don't are Hugo, Journey to center of earth, imax Hubble, Tahiti wave, under the sea. just to name a few off the top of my head. Also, not all movies need to be adjusted by player. Some just great with standard settings, like Journey to the center of the earth and Imax Hubble and under sea and wave Tahiti.
Edited by cvh - 6/11/12 at 9:06am
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