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post #4591 of 5304
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

That's right I watch 3D in the stock setting which is automatically bright lamp and graphic's video mode. Didn't think much about it but never even thought about fan sound because it wasn't there.

I agree. In standard lamp I can barely hear it. in 3D a little louder but still very silent. I have gotten to the point I don't even notice it at all. It is on the ceiling right above my head on a 8ft. ceiling. The quietest projector I have owned.
Edited by cvh - 6/25/12 at 8:16am
post #4592 of 5304
Well I got my HD33 in from Amazon today and it's broken. frown.gif
When I power it up the Optoma logo is all garbled and then the choose language menu is unreadable. Hopefully attempt number two will be a working projector. It sucks, I just got a new receiver and 3d glasses. I was so ready for some 3d viewing! I guess I'll try again Wednesday.
post #4593 of 5304
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

I agree. In standard lamp I can barely hear it. in 3D a little louder but still very silent. I have gotten to the point I don't even notice it at all. It is on the ceiling right above my head on a 8ft. ceiling. The quietest projector I have owned.

Interesting, I just finished mounting the unit. It's ~ 3-4ft above our seating.
I can definately hear it, and in 3d mode it loud.

I'm not sure if it's the fan or the color wheel...
post #4594 of 5304
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mjoc13 View Post

Interesting, I just finished mounting the unit. It's ~ 3-4ft above our seating.
I can definately hear it, and in 3d mode it loud.
I'm not sure if it's the fan or the color wheel...

Mine is 4ft above my head but there's another projector on a platform 2ft underneath it. Probably blocks the sounds better so I can't hear it. Most don't find the fan sound objectionable.
post #4595 of 5304
thanks for the reply's. I'm assuming it to be fairly quiet with everything i've read.

Question for you gamers:
I'm trying to enable 3D in Black ops for the ps3, but the option is greyed out in game.

I've reset the settings
gone through the HDMI config again
ran a 1.4 hdmi cable right to the projector (to rule out the HK avr2600)

i've been googling and playing with settings for ~2 hrs...any ideas?

cheers
post #4596 of 5304
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Originally Posted by mjoc13 View Post

thanks for the reply's. I'm assuming it to be fairly quiet with everything i've read.
Question for you gamers:
I'm trying to enable 3D in Black ops for the ps3, but the option is greyed out in game.
I've reset the settings
gone through the HDMI config again
ran a 1.4 hdmi cable right to the projector (to rule out the HK avr2600)
i've been googling and playing with settings for ~2 hrs...any ideas?
cheers

In display configuration in your PS3 menu you have to select HDMI again and run the "automatic detect" function afterwards. A new screen will inform you a 3D compatible display has been found. After running and testing this, you can enable 3D in games.
post #4597 of 5304
So, when all is said and done, which is the better over all projector? The HD33 or the Acer 9500BD?

If Acer does fix the 1:1 pixel mapping issue, would that end up being the better unit to buy? It's definitely more placement friendly, that's for sure.

Can o' worm time. biggrin.gif
post #4598 of 5304
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Originally Posted by mjoc13 View Post

Interesting, I just finished mounting the unit. It's ~ 3-4ft above our seating.
I can definately hear it, and in 3d mode it loud.
I'm not sure if it's the fan or the color wheel...

The HD33 I had previously was loud in 3D mode. It sounded to a mini jet engine. Okay, i am exaggerating, The new one that was replaced by optoma for different, unrelated reasons is much quieter. In 2D standard lamp mode is virtually silent I kid you not. I think there must be a variance between projectors. So with a surround sound it cant be heard at all.
post #4599 of 5304
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Originally Posted by shappy1010 View Post

In display configuration in your PS3 menu you have to select HDMI again and run the "automatic detect" function afterwards. A new screen will inform you a 3D compatible display has been found. After running and testing this, you can enable 3D in games.

I've tried that but it didn't mention anything about 3D, just listed all the support resolutions 480p-1080p frown.gif
post #4600 of 5304
Thread Starter 
With the xbox 360 in the games options I can choose 3D after that I just hit the 3D button on the remote and choose S by S.
post #4601 of 5304
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I've tried that but it didn't mention anything about 3D, just listed all the support resolutions 480p-1080p

Try changing up the way you turn things on. That is, if you normally turn on your ps3 first then projector, try turning on the projector first. I think that's what I had to do with my ps3 and then, yes, you do get the screen that determines that you have a 3D set and can then choose your screen size. In certain games (Uncharted 3) you have to manually tell it to run in 3D in the settings menu even once the ps3 recognizes your set. Hope that helps.
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post #4603 of 5304
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I've tried that but it didn't mention anything about 3D, just listed all the support resolutions 480p-1080p
Try changing up the way you turn things on. That is, if you normally turn on your ps3 first then projector, try turning on the projector first. I think that's what I had to do with my ps3 and then, yes, you do get the screen that determines that you have a 3D set and can then choose your screen size. In certain games (Uncharted 3) you have to manually tell it to run in 3D in the settings menu even once the ps3 recognizes your set. Hope that helps.

got it working...ended up running the cable to pj directly, then reseting ps3, and ran hdmi config - this time it found the 3d enabled display.

thanks all.

side note, i found the input lag a little worse once it was in 3d.
post #4604 of 5304
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Originally Posted by mjoc13 View Post

got it working...ended up running the cable to pj directly, then reseting ps3, and ran hdmi config - this time it found the 3d enabled display.
thanks all.
side note, i found the input lag a little worse once it was in 3d.

Ah you probably ran it through an Amplifier...I never got that to work either on my Onkyo.
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Saw a review on youtube--don't have the link. The person thought it was cheaply made and difficult to keep steady on the head. Plus a very tight window...still not ready for prime time.
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So I got my HD33 all set up and tested Thor 3D through a PS3. Looks great but is it just me or does it look like the movement of people sometimes looks too fast?? Is this a setting issue?
post #4607 of 5304
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So I got my HD33 all set up and tested Thor 3D through a PS3. Looks great but is it just me or does it look like the movement of people sometimes looks too fast?? Is this a setting issue?

First, that movie is so craptacular for 3D. It's a good enough movie, but the 3D sucks. Second, when the pj kicks into 3D Puremotion is, by default, turned on (I can't remember what the default setting is). You could try and turn off the Puremotion and see if that changes anything. Personally, I keep it on high for 3D movies. It does kinda make it look cartoony, but 3D looks like that to me anyway and it makes it a hell of a lot more watchable to my eyes.
post #4608 of 5304
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

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So I got my HD33 all set up and tested Thor 3D through a PS3. Looks great but is it just me or does it look like the movement of people sometimes looks too fast?? Is this a setting issue?
First, that movie is so craptacular for 3D. It's a good enough movie, but the 3D sucks. Second, when the pj kicks into 3D Puremotion is, by default, turned on (I can't remember what the default setting is). You could try and turn off the Puremotion and see if that changes anything. Personally, I keep it on high for 3D movies. It does kinda make it look cartoony, but 3D looks like that to me anyway and it makes it a hell of a lot more watchable to my eyes.

Thanks! I found the setting. I guess it automatically sets it to low in 3D mode. So I bought the RF glasses but was wondering how the DLP link glasses look. Seems like I read several different opinions about the two. Does DLP link produce a brighter 3d image?
post #4609 of 5304
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Originally Posted by Duane T View Post

I set my new HD33 up on Saturday, throwing on a 100" blackout cloth screen, and thought I'd throw out a few comments and a question:
  • No rainbows, but I never saw them with my X9 or 4805 either
  • I started on the settings but don't have the reds dialed in just right yet, but wow coming from a 720P Infocus X9 it's like putting my glasses on, plus a lot more pop. I expected more detail but not this much
  • I haven't had a chance to try out the 3D yet but that will be tonight
  • I liked having the power light on the top of my last PJ - it was easier to be sure it had powered off
  • Question for other owners: is the sound of your fan a constant tone or more variable? Mine varies a little in tone and I'm hoping it isn't a sign of a future fan failure

Duane T, I just purchased mine a week ago and I have also noticed the inconsistent sound or tone to the fan. My last Optoma (HD72) did not do this. It does have me a little worried but since I purchased it from Costco, I know there will be no problems returning it. Just the hassle.
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Originally Posted by STP88 View Post

Duane T, I just purchased mine a week ago and I have also noticed the inconsistent sound or tone to the fan. My last Optoma (HD72) did not do this. It does have me a little worried but since I purchased it from Costco, I know there will be no problems returning it. Just the hassle.

Yeah, mine seems to start that way but settles down shortly after warming up. Hopefully it doesn't give me any problems or at least does give me problems before the warranty runs out.

Other than that, I'm loving the upgrade.
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Just purchased the HD33 last week. I could not plug in the color or tint numbers recommended by guitarman or CVH because there was no color or tint. They only show up only when I play a bluray disc. Is this a firmware issue? I've tried CVH's calibrated numbers because it's the closest to my setup (124" Seymour DIY screen, 1.2 gain, 14-15' projector, viewing about 12' away) but I have to say the picture isn't working out for me. The Cinema mode seems to give skin tone a very orangy look. It is still so bright! I have a headache! Any suggestions? How do I find which firmware I have?
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Thread Starter 
The firmware number is up there in one of the menu's. Tint and color don't show up for some resolutions. My tuning was 1080p HDMI from a 3D blu ray player. I'll help as best I can but I had to send my HD3300 review machine back to Optoma. It was a nice run.
post #4613 of 5304
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Originally Posted by STP88 View Post

Just purchased the HD33 last week. I could not plug in the color or tint numbers recommended by guitarman or CVH because there was no color or tint. They only show up only when I play a bluray disc. Is this a firmware issue? I've tried CVH's calibrated numbers because it's the closest to my setup (124" Seymour DIY screen, 1.2 gain, 14-15' projector, viewing about 12' away) but I have to say the picture isn't working out for me. The Cinema mode seems to give skin tone a very orangy look. It is still so bright! I have a headache! Any suggestions? How do I find which firmware I have?

To get the Tint and Color setting to show up you need to set color output to YCBCR not RGB ( on PS3 or a HTPC). The PS3 will only show the Tint and Color setting playing a blu-ray with the YCBCR setting, video games on mine don't show tint and color even with it set to YCBCR it might be due to 60fps compared to 24fps. If someone else knows more please chime in and let us know.
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Figured I would post a mini review after a couple of days with the HD33.

First impression was this projector is extremely placement limited. I have the pj ceiling mounted 13 feet from the screen and 8 inches above the top of my screen. I had to zoom all the way out to fill my DIY Wilson Art laminate 116" screen, and it barely made it to my border. This is not what I got from projector central`s calculator, incidentally. There website shows from 13 ft an available zoom range from 100 to 120 " diagonal. For whatever that is worth.

I have been out of the latest projector technology lately as I had been busy finishing our theater room, finishing basement, etc. I picked this up from Amazon, not the best price but certainly alot for the money and Amazon has a liberal return policy. Coming off an ancient Sony HS-10 lcd, I am greatly impressed by the punch, color and depth of the picture out of the box. The HD 33 is really bright in 2D mode with the Cinema setting in my light controlled room. The Sony was dim and washed out by comparison, even with a newer bulb.

I am one of the unfortunate lucky few who is DLP rainbow sensitive. Going back to a brief stint with an Infocus X1 way back when, and a couple of demos since then, I have always seen them. After reading about the 6X speed color wheel, and hardly any complaints in this thread and elsewhere, I made the order. First movie I fired up was a blu-ray rip (mkv) of Sin City, otherwise known as rainbow city. I read on this forum it would be a good field test for rbe. And, well, I still see them on the HD 33. Moving my eyes back and forth with credits rolling, subtitles, or even the test pj's white grid test pattern against a black background they are obvious. Honestly, I don't see how people can NOT see them! ANYhoo....After spending more time with the Optoma I am either tuning them out or becoming used to them. They are still there, certainly. I am just wondering if I should send the pj back or if others eventually adjusted to the rbe?

PJ has a great picture, especially for the price. I would hate to give up on it too soon. I do remember some serious eye fatigue with the X1 RBE; I am not experiencing that so far.

Other thoughts:
-- Fan is quiet in 2d mode (like and AC vent), louder in 3d mode but not as loud as my old Sony.
-- Light weight, easy to handle and mount.
-- I run a HTPC, upgraded vid card to an XFX Radeon 6750. Had to use HDMI out to pj (via adapters to in wall DVI cable) to enable 3D. DVI out did not work for 3D.
-- I used guitarman's calibration settings as a starter. Obviously I need to do my own calibration from my Avia disk. May help with the RBE.

I hope this helps someone out. These are the things I have learned since I got the pj despite hours of research beforehand.
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Howdy folks! I've been drifting from the forums because I'm getting an error using the iPhone and iPad apps for AVS. 668 hours logged on my 3300 (75% of which by my 12 year old though i think) and loved every minute! Just watched John Carter in 3D and really enjoyed it. It felt like the most realistic 3d I saw so far. Not real gimmicky, a lot of depth and subtle pop out.

Anyways, wondering if anyone can steer me in the right direction for the remote code for the pj to map the 3300 to my Onkyo HTRC 360? Nothing pops up in the receivers GUI for Optoma.
post #4616 of 5304
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Originally Posted by rekbones View Post

To get the Tint and Color setting to show up you need to set color output to YCBCR not RGB ( on PS3 or a HTPC). The PS3 will only show the Tint and Color setting playing a blu-ray with the YCBCR setting, video games on mine don't show tint and color even with it set to YCBCR it might be due to 60fps compared to 24fps. If someone else knows more please chime in and let us know.

Thanks rekbones. I'll check to see what colour output I have it at. Would you happen to know where I can find the firmware number? I've searched all over the menus but I can't for the life of me find it. Maybe others can chime in. Thanks.
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The firmware rev shows up in the menu under system top right of box beside of system. Newist is FW:C04
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Can someone helpe me,i have an optoma hd33 and 3d is working fine with my wd player but i changed my player to the new mac mini 2011 and every thing work except 3d as when i try to press 3d button it is not showing 3d option and the picture still side by side, i tried to change display on mac mini to different resolution but now way.
post #4619 of 5304
you need to go into the 3dmode settings and manually select "side by side" for the hd33/3300 to display the 3d if it's SBS content.
post #4620 of 5304
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Originally Posted by Eapiel View Post


I am one of the unfortunate lucky few who is DLP rainbow sensitive. Going back to a brief stint with an Infocus X1 way back when, and a couple of demos since then, I have always seen them. After reading about the 6X speed color wheel, and hardly any complaints in this thread and elsewhere, I made the order. First movie I fired up was a blu-ray rip (mkv) of Sin City, otherwise known as rainbow city. I read on this forum it would be a good field test for rbe. And, well, I still see them on the HD 33. Moving my eyes back and forth with credits rolling, subtitles, or even the test pj's white grid test pattern against a black background they are obvious. Honestly, I don't see how people can NOT see them! ANYhoo....After spending more time with the Optoma I am either tuning them out or becoming used to them. They are still there, certainly. I am just wondering if I should send the pj back or if others eventually adjusted to the rbe?
PJ has a great picture, especially for the price. I would hate to give up on it too soon. I do remember some serious eye fatigue with the X1 RBE; I am not experiencing that so far.

Most don't have an issue, but if you really look for it you may see it. Only time I see it is when I move my head really quickly from left to right, which of course I never do. Ending credits with white on black, yes it is a little more noticeable. During movie I see nothing. Yes, if you look at the grid test pattern you will see it, and yes if you dart your eyes back and forth, but this is not normal viewing conditions. I certainly would not want to stare at the grid. It is there for testing purposes. Darting your eyes back and forth is a little weird, but if you like watching movies that way, go ahead.

Now i will say this, I think each projector has a little variance. My old HD33 I sent in I noticed nothing at all and had to really look hard to notice it. I had my projector swapped out for unrelated issues and I noticed it a little more on new HD33, not much though, but not worth worrying about. Try lowering your brightness and contrast a little, guitarman suggests this will help.
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