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post #4801 of 5304
Maybe my lamp is still too new, RBE is very bad in my case, I have not reached 100 lamp hours yet. I watched Avengers 3D last night and was very impressed and happy with my choice of projector again, and can say that RBE weren't prominent in 3D mode.
post #4802 of 5304
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Originally Posted by irongod2112 View Post

I have the HD33 Firmware C04
I switched the setting on my PS3 to YCBCR and color & tint still does not show up on the menu... any suggestions?
The color & tint settings are there when in 3D mode though....
Can I still use the calibration settings without TINT & COLOR and get a proper picture?
Love the projector by the way!!! =)

The PS3 is not the same as most of your newer sources as it isn't really HDMI 1.4. Sony did some great work arounds to get 3D to work and mine only displays the Color and tint settings when playing a blu-ray, not games. There might be some other setting on PS3 to get these to show up as in turning off deep color or limited HDMI ? I personly like the default referance setting for almost everything on mine but play very few games. I don't use the PS3 for movies and have a Panny player or HTPC
post #4803 of 5304
Hi everyone.
My first post here, and sorry for my English.

I'm planning to buy my first projector, considering HD33. Just finished reading all 161 pages.

One thing that really bothers me is the black level.

Is it really as black as on some pictures posted here ?
Like this http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf2.jpg Can someone confirm that this is what user actually sees in real life?

Some people say it's great, but why then are many professional reviewers and users claim the black level in HD33 is not good at all?
Is it just because of settings?
Or maybe HD3300 is just faaar superior over HD33 in terms of black, could it be?


Also I saw HD300x in a local shop recently, and the blacks was indeed gray. So I wasn't impressed, even comparing it to my budget samsung plasma (51D550). I tried to adjust some brightness/contrast settings without success, but had not a lot of time to try everything, so I'm not really sure.


So, I'm also thinking about Benq W7000, is it better? (in terms of black mainly) I can spend 1000$ more, but not sure is it worth it. Did anyone have a chance to compare HD33 and W7000 live?

Thank you in advance for your answers.
post #4804 of 5304
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Originally Posted by futurecode View Post

I think this all based on if you and your veiwers are wearing prescription galsses. If yes, then the Optoma BG-3DRFGLASSES RF's tend to be the consensus winners. If not, There are a lot of DLP links to choose from.
I ran my old HTPC ( Intel 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor, 6gb ddr2 800 and a Nvidia gt430 )though this projector with no problems. Great HD, 3D and audio via hdmi.
I now run my gaming PC ( i7 2600k, 8gb ddr3 1600, Nvidia GTX 670) with amazing results.
Futurecode...my HTPC will be here soon and I'm planning on running XMBC with this PJ. I want a 2.35 screen and I was wondering if I could rescale movies from xmbc to fit the cinemascope screen?
post #4805 of 5304
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Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

What the hell? HDMI ports stopped working. Can't get any picture. Time to call Optoma, my HD33 will be a year old end of next month.
Projector is getting delivered today. Oh, how I missed it.
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Who currently has the best price for this projector?
post #4808 of 5304
www . electrofundepot . com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=155

i'm sorry for posting this, most likely a fake company.
Edited by Ilya Volk - 9/9/12 at 2:08pm
post #4809 of 5304
Is this company legit? They just gave me free shipping and 10% off ! Total $775.87 Too good to be true. Too bad also won't be home for 3 weeks to receive it if I do decide to purchase it. Maybe it's a refurb.
post #4810 of 5304
A Google search says it's probably a scam.
post #4811 of 5304
Do I recall someone saying there's way to extend the warranty on the Optoma HD33 to 2 years?
post #4812 of 5304
Yes, Optoma will give you 1 or 2 extra years of warranty. You have to purchase it before your 1 year warranty runs out. They are the only one that does this. I researched. Give them a call.
Price is a little high, but IMO well worth the peace of mind. I would get the 2 year.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ilya Volk View Post

Hi everyone.
My first post here, and sorry for my English.
I'm planning to buy my first projector, considering HD33. Just finished reading all 161 pages.
One thing that really bothers me is the black level.
Is it really as black as on some pictures posted here ?
Like this http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf2.jpg Can someone confirm that this is what user actually sees in real life?
Some people say it's great, but why then are many professional reviewers and users claim the black level in HD33 is not good at all?
Is it just because of settings?
Or maybe HD3300 is just faaar superior over HD33 in terms of black, could it be?
Also I saw HD300x in a local shop recently, and the blacks was indeed gray. So I wasn't impressed, even comparing it to my budget samsung plasma (51D550). I tried to adjust some brightness/contrast settings without success, but had not a lot of time to try everything, so I'm not really sure.
So, I'm also thinking about Benq W7000, is it better? (in terms of black mainly) I can spend 1000$ more, but not sure is it worth it. Did anyone have a chance to compare HD33 and W7000 live?
Thank you in advance for your answers.

Blacks look like that in that picture. It's the high contrast that makes it better. The bigger swing from white to black helps.
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Does anyone know if Optoma is bringing out an hd33 or 3300 replacement this year? As i see Epson has brought out a replacement for the 3010, the 3020???
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Thread Starter 
Nope, I've kinda lost contact with Optoma.
post #4816 of 5304
Well, I've gone and done it. I purchased a Dailite HighPower 159"eek.gif screen to pair with my Optoma HD3300. I currently have a DIY 142" screen with about 1.2 gain. It's okay for 3D, but I could use some more footlamberts. It will be an overhead mount on the projector, so the 2.4 gain will probably be around 1.8 when I look at it, but that should be more than enough. So all I need to do is mount the screen and move the pojector back a foot or so. Man, that screen is heavy--about 70 lbs and 78' x 139". I just got the 3D Titanic disc today, and see it's in 1.78 format (IMAX), so it's going to be spectacular--at least the ratings on the forum here are good so far. I won't be able to get it mounted until next week....it's going to be a long weekend, but worth it...cool.gif
post #4817 of 5304
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Originally Posted by sonic debauchery View Post

Does anyone know if Optoma is bringing out an hd33 or 3300 replacement this year? As i see Epson has brought out a replacement for the 3010, the 3020???

I was hoping for an upgrade as well but from what I can tell they had nothing at CEDIA. So instead I have a pre-order in for the new Panasonic 8000...a lot more money but it appears to have everything I want...especially a lens shift which is why I couldn't go with the HD33.
post #4818 of 5304
Guys, is there a way to check the exact framerate this projector is receiving? I know it shows 1080p24 and 1080p60, but is there a way to check if a media player is actually sending 23.976 (instead of the rounded-up 24Hz this PJ shows)?
post #4819 of 5304
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

Yes, Optoma will give you 1 or 2 extra years of warranty. You have to purchase it before your 1 year warranty runs out. They are the only one that does this. I researched. Give them a call.
Price is a little high, but IMO well worth the peace of mind. I would get the 2 year.

I bought mine with my Costco American Express card, so I get the extra year for free.
post #4820 of 5304
I have been lurking in the video processor forum and decided to plop down a few dollars to pick up the Darbee Vision Darblet based on the screen shots available and the recommendations of many on that forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet


I should receive it late this week or early next week and I'll post back findings. Apparently it really pumps up the perceived contrast and clarity of any HDMI source so I can't wait to see what it can do with my HD3300. I am currently in a minor remodel of my Media room and I am throwing in some new tweaks into my system (this is one of them).

I will report back as soon as I get it installed.
Edited by larrimore - 9/19/12 at 10:00am
post #4821 of 5304
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

I have been lurking in the video processor forum and decided to plop down a few dollars to pick up the Darbee Vision Darblet based on the screen shots available and the recommendations of many on that forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet


I should receive it late this week or early next week and I'll post back findings. Apparently it really pumps up the perceived contrast and clarity of any HDMI source so I can't wait to see what it can do with my HD3300. I am currently in a minor remodel of my Media room and I am throwing in some new tweaks into my system (this is one of them).

I will report back as soon as I get it installed.

Awesome. I'm totally interested in the Darbee myself. Will be nice to have a perspective from the HD33/3300 angle. Thanks.
post #4822 of 5304
I've notice a flickering in my picture in the top right corner. At first I thought it might be from a ceiling fan, but it was not the cause. I got the project back from optoma recently for my HDMI problem and the firmware is on 05 now. Has anyone else seen this problem? I would hate to have to send it back to them again if I don't have to.
post #4823 of 5304
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

Well, I've gone and done it. I purchased a Dailite HighPower 159"eek.gif screen to pair with my Optoma HD3300. I currently have a DIY 142" screen with about 1.2 gain. It's okay for 3D, but I could use some more footlamberts. It will be an overhead mount on the projector, so the 2.4 gain will probably be around 1.8 when I look at it, but that should be more than enough. So all I need to do is mount the screen and move the pojector back a foot or so. Man, that screen is heavy--about 70 lbs and 78' x 139". I just got the 3D Titanic disc today, and see it's in 1.78 format (IMAX), so it's going to be spectacular--at least the ratings on the forum here are good so far. I won't be able to get it mounted until next week....it's going to be a long weekend, but worth it...cool.gif

Okay, with the help of a friend (dang this is heavy), we mounted the screen on a basement wall yesterday evening--7.5 feet high--took up the whole wall top to bottom and the case is 147" long--yup over 12 feet. If you decide to get one of these (Model C--pull down), I advise getting the cleat mounting system--about $70 extra. Makes it easy to mount and you have about a foot of horizontal movement to get the screened centered perfectly. Today I dismounted the projector from it's old position and temporarily mounted it on a ladder so I could judge distance from screen, etc. I turned on the projector and cable, and wow, wow, wow. I was very impressed with the color, contrast and sharpness. It popped much more than my 142" DIY Maxxmudd screen. This newer High Power version is 2.4 gain, whereas the original High Power screens were 2.8. I've read this isn't as good, but having owned one of the originals years ago, I can say that the new 2.4 screen is much smoother (sharper), with no sparklies, and no yellow bias. After falling in love with the image, I then switched on my 3D blu ray player, and watched part of Green Lantern in 3D. WOW, a vail of darkness was removed and the 3D was bright and alive--and this as I sat on the floor under the projector trying to see if the gain fall off would be too much--but it's not. Sure it's brighter when my head is level with the projector, but not as much fall off as I thought there would be. I put my old screen halfway into the image to compare, and it's definitely about half as bright--and that screen is about 1.2 gain.

That said, 159" is huge eek.gif. Sitting about 15 away, you truly feel like you are watching IMAX. Plus the clarity and depth are amazing. I've got to go out-of-town tonight through this weekend, and still have to permantly mount the projector, so I won't watch Titanic in 3D until next week...oh, the anticipation mounts..cool.gif. I waited a full year trying to make up my mind to buy this, and I wish I had done this sooner. I am just so "wowed" by the image biggrin.gif.
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Originally Posted by cvh View Post

Yes, Optoma will give you 1 or 2 extra years of warranty. You have to purchase it before your 1 year warranty runs out. They are the only one that does this. I researched. Give them a call.
Price is a little high, but IMO well worth the peace of mind. I would get the 2 year.
My one year is up on 9/22 so I called and got another year. Since I had just sent it in for repair they had most of my info. One year is about $200 and two year is about $300. If I still have this projector next year at this time I can get another year if I want. Little pricey, but I'd hate to trash it if parts and labor cost more then it's worth to keep if something bad happens.
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

Okay, with the help of a friend (dang this is heavy), we mounted the screen on a basement wall yesterday evening--7.5 feet high--took up the whole wall top to bottom and the case is 147" long--yup over 12 feet. If you decide to get one of these (Model C--pull down), I advise getting the cleat mounting system--about $70 extra. Makes it easy to mount and you have about a foot of horizontal movement to get the screened centered perfectly. Today I dismounted the projector from it's old position and temporarily mounted it on a ladder so I could judge distance from screen, etc. I turned on the projector and cable, and wow, wow, wow. I was very impressed with the color, contrast and sharpness. It popped much more than my 142" DIY Maxxmudd screen. This newer High Power version is 2.4 gain, whereas the original High Power screens were 2.8. I've read this isn't as good, but having owned one of the originals years ago, I can say that the new 2.4 screen is much smoother (sharper), with no sparklies, and no yellow bias. After falling in love with the image, I then switched on my 3D blu ray player, and watched part of Green Lantern in 3D. WOW, a vail of darkness was removed and the 3D was bright and alive--and this as I sat on the floor under the projector trying to see if the gain fall off would be too much--but it's not. Sure it's brighter when my head is level with the projector, but not as much fall off as I thought there would be. I put my old screen halfway into the image to compare, and it's definitely about half as bright--and that screen is about 1.2 gain.
That said, 159" is huge eek.gif. Sitting about 15 away, you truly feel like you are watching IMAX. Plus the clarity and depth are amazing. I've got to go out-of-town tonight through this weekend, and still have to permantly mount the projector, so I won't watch Titanic in 3D until next week...oh, the anticipation mounts..cool.gif. I waited a full year trying to make up my mind to buy this, and I wish I had done this sooner. I am just so "wowed" by the image biggrin.gif.

Please post some pics of your new set up!
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

I have been lurking in the video processor forum and decided to plop down a few dollars to pick up the Darbee Vision Darblet based on the screen shots available and the recommendations of many on that forum.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet
I should receive it late this week or early next week and I'll post back findings. Apparently it really pumps up the perceived contrast and clarity of any HDMI source so I can't wait to see what it can do with my HD3300. I am currently in a minor remodel of my Media room and I am throwing in some new tweaks into my system (this is one of them).
I will report back as soon as I get it installed.

Nice! I was looking at this too! Post some before and after pics please. I look forward to your review! ;-)
post #4827 of 5304
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Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

I've notice a flickering in my picture in the top right corner. At first I thought it might be from a ceiling fan, but it was not the cause. I got the project back from optoma recently for my HDMI problem and the firmware is on 05 now. Has anyone else seen this problem? I would hate to have to send it back to them again if I don't have to.
Flickering seems to have gone away. I am guessing some light reflection from some where.
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Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

Nice! I was looking at this too! Post some before and after pics please. I look forward to your review! ;-)


I'll see what I can do. Unfortunately, it is coming USPS so I cannot see where it is. Their tracking can be bad sometimes to the point you'll see it is "out for delivery" two days after you receive it. I am expecting it probably Monday (9/24) or Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by Ilya Volk View Post

Hi everyone.
My first post here, and sorry for my English.
I'm planning to buy my first projector, considering HD33. Just finished reading all 161 pages.
One thing that really bothers me is the black level.
Is it really as black as on some pictures posted here ?
Like this http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf2.jpg Can someone confirm that this is what user actually sees in real life?
Some people say it's great, but why then are many professional reviewers and users claim the black level in HD33 is not good at all?
Is it just because of settings?
Or maybe HD3300 is just faaar superior over HD33 in terms of black, could it be?
Also I saw HD300x in a local shop recently, and the blacks was indeed gray. So I wasn't impressed, even comparing it to my budget samsung plasma (51D550). I tried to adjust some brightness/contrast settings without success, but had not a lot of time to try everything, so I'm not really sure.
So, I'm also thinking about Benq W7000, is it better? (in terms of black mainly) I can spend 1000$ more, but not sure is it worth it. Did anyone have a chance to compare HD33 and W7000 live?
Thank you in advance for your answers.

The Mits hc4000 is the only one in this price range I can think of that does SLIGHTLY darker blacks, but only SLIGHTLY.
To get near TV-like blacks from a projector, you'd have to go with an Epson 8700ub, Epson 5010, or one of the JVC models.

To get better blacks in this price, there isn't that much in this price range that actually does enough better blacks to make a big difference. The Benq w6000 probably a little with the IRIS (but not a huge advantage), and the w7000 has worse blacks than the w6000 so I don't think the w7000 will beat the Optoma hd33 in blacks by any significance. The Acer 9500bd will beat it in black levels about to the same degree the Benq w6000 (not w7000) beats it, but then again I probably wouldn't focus on that because it's only marginal improvements.
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

I have been lurking in the video processor forum and decided to plop down a few dollars to pick up the Darbee Vision Darblet based on the screen shots available and the recommendations of many on that forum.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet
I should receive it late this week or early next week and I'll post back findings. Apparently it really pumps up the perceived contrast and clarity of any HDMI source so I can't wait to see what it can do with my HD3300. I am currently in a minor remodel of my Media room and I am throwing in some new tweaks into my system (this is one of them).
I will report back as soon as I get it installed.


I was surprised when I got home that my Darblet was in the mail box. I will have to give kudos to USPS for the quick turn. I immediatley installed it next to my projector for temporary use. It immediatley synched up and started working without a hitch. As we had a diiner date with friends, I did not have quite as much alone time with it as I would have liked, but I was able to play around with it with different content for about an hour. I looked at 1080i using Resident Evil Tivo'd from HDNet Movies, The BD of Alien vs. Predator, 720p content from ESPN (baseball) and a DVD of Galxy Quest with TIm Allen as well as animation in the Lorax. I did not try out 3D yet but will tonight sometime.

I can tell you that the Darby works great with the 3300 and definitely adds something to the picture. As others have said, it kind of "lifts a veil" from the image. I will compare it to having a smart phone or computer screen with a screen protector on it, then the "ah" you get when you remove the screen protector after a few weeks of using it. You never noticed it when it was there, but when you remove it, it is as if you cleaned the screen with windex.

On higher settings, it does make the picture artificial, an almost animated look, but on high def setting and at about 45%, I can see it. On sports, game and full pop settings still look good and on animation, you can pump the setting up to 60-70% with no problem and it really "pops".

On another note, I turned the Pure Detail off on the Optoma for my testing, but even when I went back and turned it on, I don't think I saw a difference. When I was considering the Darbee, I wondered if the Pure Detail was similar, but it is not. There is something else happening in the Darbee that is subtle but noticeable.

I will be testing more today, but that is my initial impression. I will see if I can drag my tripod out and take a screenshot or two later.
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