New Optoma HD33 HD3300 1080p 3D Projector Review - Page 172

Interesting. I had YCbCr 4:4:4 settings on my Panasonic BDT500 bluray player at all times and never seen artifacts on hd33. Neither on hd8300.

Perhaps "artifacts" is a bit overexaggerated. But YCbCr 4:4:4 seems to show a more noisy picture, as far as my personal observation goes. But like I said, I need to test this in better lightning conditions, during the night.

Just out of curiosity, how long is your HDMI cable and what brand/model is it unless custom?

So after a long drawn out process I decided to purchase this projector, I have had my eye on it for a long time as my first projector in my newly constructed HT room. It came down to the HD33, Sharp xv-z17000, and Benq W70000. Can't wait to get this projector and I hope I made the right choice. Spent too many hours researching! Thank you all for your input.

Enjoy your HD33! You'll love It! Please post some pics when It's all set up! :-)

3D Cheap Alternative Glasses for HD33

For those of you who are looking for a cheaper alternative for 3D Glasses. I have tested this on my HD33 and was shocked at how well it worked, I bought 2 Playstation 3D Glasses for a fraction of the cost. I have 4 BG-3DRFGLASSES, but I will be wearing PS3 3D Glasses.

When purchased together with Emitter and Glasses, you're set back only 50 bucks. Chk Glasses at BB. Real Cheap.

I was very surprised at the Picture Quality and Effectiveness of this IR Emitter.

IR Emitter has very good range, Glasses has no color shifts, no ghosting when viewed at any extreme angle and has a bright image.
Glasses very comfortable especially with Prescription glasses that i wear and man is it comfortable. I would say this is a no Brainer.

Dimensional Optics 3ACTIVE IR Emitter

http://www.amazon.com/Dimensional-3ACTIVE-Emitter-Compatible-Mitsubishi/dp/B005M3BIMO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359398932&sr=8-1&keywords=3d+emitter

PlayStation 3 3D Glasses

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-3D-Glasses/dp/B00562O8U0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359399079&sr=1-1&keywords=ps3+3d+glasses

My experiences with IR 3d have not been happy. They tend to make your IR remotes useless. Does this setup work better?

No Problems so far. works like a charm

This is interesting and perfect timing for my situation. I have some DLP link glasses (4 pairs) and the charging ports have broken on 2 pairs. I have been thinking of going the RF route, but the glasses are more than I would like to spend. So some questions on the PS3 glasses and emitter:

1. Where do have the emitter mounted in your setup?
2. How far does the IR signal have to travel in your setup?
3. How would you rate the image quality compared to the Optoma RF Glasses?

Thanks in advance for your response!

I was under impression that in order to perfectly synchronize glasses with picture on the screen, glasses should be directly controlled by picture source which in this case is projector. This minimizes risk of lag that would has to be compensated when using glasses connected to video source i.e. Ps3 console for example.
That is why I purchased Optoma glasses that are slightly more expensive but ensure flawless picture, no need for adjustment or lost synchronization.
I can walk with my zf-2100gls glasses on entire house floor where pj is installed without risk of loosing sync. It is around 25 feet radius.
No idea about Ps3 glasses performance though, it is technically bizarre concept anyway. Good luck in making right choice.

Anyone have an issue with strange flicker in SBS mode?
When I'm playing 3d content in frame packed mode it's fine, but if I use SBS mode on the PJ then I get an intermittent flicker. It might happen once every couple of minutes, then a few times at once, then once every few ins again.
It's very strange.
Wondering if it's an issue with my PJ or some issue with SBS mode generally with the HD33 that might require a firmware upgrade?

It sounds as if you are assuming the emitter is plugged into the PS3 and not the projector. The PS3 does not have the approriate plug to receive the the emitter. I am summing that
the emitter is plugged into the projetor as does the Optoma RF emitter.

IR is more line of site, that is why my questions of distance and mounting since it seems that the IR would have to bounce off the screen then back to the glasses if mounted on the projector.

1. Where do have the emitter mounted in your setup?
The Emitter plugs into PJ just like the Optoma Emitter. This Emitter comes with a velcro pad so you can mount it anywhere on the projector.
Because HD33 is on my ceiling, I mounted it underneath HD33 with IR eye facing down.
Remember, u can use any IR Glasses and not just PS3 Glasses with this Emitter. Emitter is universal.

The IR does not interfere with any of my Remotes.

2. How far does the IR signal have to travel in your setup?
The Emmitter has a very wide IR Eye. It also kind of curves around on the Edges for a spherical range. Maybe why this thing is so effective.
I do sit directly under my projector. I tested it by walking around in an 8 foot radius and did not loose sync
even when not actually looking at the IR Eye.
It claims it has a 20ft distance. Have not gone that far since I sit within an 8ft radius.

3. How would you rate the image quality compared to the Optoma RF Glasses?
The Quality is slightly better than the BG-3DRFGLASSES. Not sure about new Optoma ZF-2100GLS. Have not tried them.

What sets it apart is that is does not suffer from tint changes from top to bottom.
Also, there is no Ghosting when viewing at any angle on the lens.
So you can look high up and low down and Image is perfect. Fantastic 3D uniformity.

Answer to ESDWA above Post.

PS3 Glasses are not specifically for PS3 and Gaming. It can be used universally
I dont use a PS3 for 3D Blurays. I use a Dedicated 3D bluray Player. Even if I did, I can hook the PS3 via HDMI to HD33 and use it just fine. Gaming works very well. Son tested it.

Look, RF's are great. I have 4 pairs. No sync loss at all. It kicks right into 3D as soon as it detects a source.
PS3 glasses adjust, but only for a 2secs.
I would agree that if you have a large theater room, RF's are the way to Go. Great radius.
Rf''s are very comfortable if not wearing Prescription Glasses. Not at all comfortable if wearing some.

PS3 glasses sit over and an top of your Glasses and seriously don't feel like you are even wearing Prescription glasses.
Now, RF temples does fit over your ear like regular glasses, whereas PS3 does sought of Wrap around Head. These are definitely for Adults. Rf's can be used by 7 yrs old and above.
PS3 are extremely lighter than RF. Very comfortable on the Bridge of your Nose.

The temples does close to store easily unlike DLP Optoma Links. As I have stated in previous posts, Optoma DLP Link does have the better Pic Quality over Op. RF.

It boils down to Price. You can purchase 4 PS3 Glasses for $80 at BB right now or $80 for one Optoma. Do the Math. I have tested four 3D glasses over the last 2 years and I can tell you, these PS3 Glasses are Great. I plan to get 2 more while the price is low at BB.
Edited by cvh - 2/1/13 at 8:18am

I've been having stuttering issues with this projector and my HTPC Blu-ray playback forever. I even upgraded the hardware (CPU, GeForce GTX 550Ti, got an HDMI-capable AV-Receiver) and the funny thing is, only 3D Blu-rays run perfectly smooth but any regular BD drops frames every so often. With 60 Hz refresh rate it is more of a constant judder but with 24 or "23" Hz there is quite noticable stutter every few minutes. I am running out of settings to tinker with but am unsure how much the Pure Motion makes a difference.

When using a PS3 as a BD player everything is perfectly smooth.

Anyone had this problem and found a solution?

Yes. I had exactly same problem, not with one but all PCs at my home. And this was last day I used HTPC as playback device. A $100 worth bd player or networked media player can do better job than pc and let you use your time to enjoy movies, not thinking about next pc upgrade that usually cost a lot more than standalone mp and is just not worth the effort. But that is just my humble opinion.

SONY BDP S590 HD33 3D SETTINGS

So I purchased a new Sony Bluray Player for the Apps and was pleasantly suprised by the quality for 3D on HD33.
I tweak with my New Sony PS3 3D Glasses, but still works with BFG RF Glasses.

Below are the Settings for HD33 3D on a Sony BDP S590:

LAMP MODE: BRIGHT

DISPLAY MODE: 3D
CONTRAST: +7
BRIGHTNESS: -4
SHARPNESS: 14
COLOR: 14
TINT: -1

ADVANCED:
GAMMA: Graphic
Gamma Curve type: -4
Offset: 0

PURE ENGINE:
Pure Motion: Low
Pure Detail: 1
Pure Color: 5

COLOR SETTINGS:
Color Temp: Medium

RGB BIAS/GAIN:
Red Gain: +2
Green Gain: 0
Blue Gain: +1
Red Bias: +2
Green Bias: 0
Blue Bias: 1

So I have had my HD33 setup for over a few weeks now and loving the performance overall. I will post pictures once my theatre seats come in as truly everyone on this site inspired me to build a theatre room and I couldn't be happier with the way it turned out. My daughter loves watching movies and is always asking daddy to go down to watch a movie. Which ultimately was my intention for the room to have family movie nights and the occasional sporting event for daddy.


One question I do have and I don't know if its my eyes but when watching sports on the projector I have occasionally noticed a really shiny pixel at the bottom of the screen and I can't figure out whether I should be concerned or not. At first I just went up to the screen thinking it may have been something on the screen but nope. The thing is its not always there either, should I be concerned? I'm still within my first 30 days so I will exchange it if needed.

Thanks again everyone for the help!

Also has anyone picked up these glasses off of ebay, they say they are compatible with the HD33 and 2 pairs cost 65 bucks(always looking to save a buck if i can). I guess I just want to know whether im better off forking out for the optoma ones or will these suffice.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2-pairs-3D-DLP-Link-glasses-for-Optoma-HD33-HD36-HD65-HD66-HD5101-Projector-New-/261060030494?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item3cc863f01e

What screen do you have? I have a DIY Black widow UK screen and there is one tiny part of aluminium fillings that reflects light only when you sit in a particular place, luckily it is when you sit between two seats on the sofa so never really see it, if you move slightly it disappears. Does yours stay whatever the viewing angle?

Actually that's a good point I have a Accuscreen 106" and its in one particular place and you are right if i move a little to the right or left it dissapears. Only when you sit directly in the center it pops out at you, that is strange. The thing is its not always there either i've only noticed it when watching soccer or basketball, I havent seen it when watching regular programming. Is that something I will just have to live with or is there something I can do?

I've only ever used the Optoma RFs, but you might want to check out cvh's post above about a cheap IR alternative.

This is of course not technical fix but every time I see it, I move across a little and smile to the fact i'm watching amazing quality films or gaming with ultra smooth motion on my 100" screen

I'm guessing it's a little quirk that reminds me how lucky I am to have found this PJ and that i'm so glad I didn't just get another big TV.

I still grin to myself when I watch a low res youtube video like 480p or something and it's in windowed mode (I have my pc connected to the PJ) and the YT window is like 50+ Inches yet after the upscaling, looks 720p and far better than on my 1080p 22" monitor!

All I need now is to keep working hard to get a house to get a proper build going

Well, if it bothers you then do not wait and have it exchanged. I had two HD33s and none of them had a bad pixel. Good luck!

Hey guys! This might not be related to HD33 but I'll give it a shot.
I'm having some issues related to the zoom level or what you might call it in Windows.

Ok, I will try to explain this in a simple way.

I have a HTPC connected directly to my HD33 with a 10m high speed HDMI.

Windows 7 SP1 x64
AMD A6-3500 (AMD Radeon 6530D)

And I have setup my zoom level with the built in "grid screen" in HD33 and it looks like this.

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_95424
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_95422

Ignore the space on the right hand side, I haven't really tweaked the image to the edges.

But when I'm in Windows it looks like this.

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_96596
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_96598

Notice that the image is smaller compared to the test grid pattern.

And the weird thing is that it looks like this in 3D (blu-ray running in Arcsoft TMT)

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_96584
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6085304_75609697_96590

The zoom level in 3D-mode is as big as the grid pattern.

I have a Wii as well, connected to my receiver via component, and then HDMI to the projector, and the Wii too is similar in size with 3D-mode and the grid pattern.

I managed to solve some of it with overscan in AMD Catalyst drivers, but not all of it.

What am I missing here, I'm running 1080p@60hz in Windows, and 1080p@24hz when watching movies. (I've set both modes in overscan as far as possible without loosing some of the image)
I don't want to have to change the zoom level when i switch from 3D to "Windows" for instance.

When I set the zoom level on the projectors wheel to be fullscreen in Windows I end up with an image that is to big for my screen once I play 3D or some Wii.

Some help here guys, cheers!

e2zippo1

Here is the manual information with Pic.

` Choose Native Instead of 16 X 9 at the top of Menu: This format displays the original image without scaling.

All other settings must be set to ZERO.

Has anyone here upgraded from a HD33 to the HD3300? Is it any brighter, better contrast? Better black levels?

I have a HD33, love it to bits. If the HD3300 improves on it by 25% ill be real pleased.

As a saide note in noticed in 3D gaming mode, turn off all pure engine, and set gama to "standard" = lowest input lag setting.

Also i added a darbee, and wow on super star bust set kn "HD mod and set to "100%" (dont go over 100 or it induces lag) the contrast and sharpness is greatly improved. Reduces the "muddy look from the upscaling from 720p to 1080p.

For 3D gaming i am really happy with this combo.

Just sent my HD33 (original C01 firmware) in for a firmware update... What is the latest and greatest firmware and is there a "read me" with a list of changes??

I upgraded HD33 to HD8300 and improvent for 2D is dramatic. The picture is absolutely stunning and super natural so I can watch for hours without being tired. Blacks are fenomenal. For 3D both projectors perform almost identical.

One thing thought is that with 8300 I do not see RBE while on 33 I seen it everytime when panning screen vertically.

Hi, sorry, I'm still trying to get up to date on this huge thread, I am using my HD33 mainly for PC gaming sometimes in 3D, could you elaborate on what you have done to improve things? How much was the Darbee?

Thanks, please excuse my ignorance

After reading through countless pages of this thread and also looking everywhere else on the internet I still can't find a definitive answer to my question:

Are there any cheaper alternative RF 3D glasses other than the Optoma branded ones that will work with the HD33? If so, do they require their own emitter or can they also use the optoma emitter? (meaning I could use the optoma 3d-rf glasses i already have in addition to the aftermarket ones)