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post #961 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by futurecode View Post

Received my HD33 last night.

Still have to do some personal calibration, just plugged in guitarmans settings (good by the way!) an just tested the hell out of it.

The 2D content blew my W600+ and HD66 out of the water. Sharpness was off the hook and the blacks were very nice and better then I expected (newbie projector junkie, maybe never seeing "top-o-the-line" is a plus here)

3d was really immersive and clear. iMax ocean wonderland 3d was just plain crazy. Tron 3d and ice age 3d were really nice. Checked out killzone 3, Resistance 3, God of war Origins, Motor-storm pacific rift and MLB the show, all were stellar in 3d.

Used 3D heaven DLP link glasses and they worked quite well and only had to invert sync once (with the amount of jumping around i did I was impressed)

Red tint in 3D was not visible with the 3d heaven glasses (and the red tint is RED, not light)

The mooing wheel is now a running joke between me and my wife (although she attests that it sounds like something dying over a moo).

The only gripes I have is 3D, for me, needs to be a bit brighter (I'd chalk that up to a gain issue on my screen, not the projector) and I might have to exchange this one and in pitch black or flat white images I see what can only be described as a LCD style dust blob in the upper right hand corner.

Once I have the weekend to test her proper, I'll post more stuffs and screens.

Seems like a winner in my picky book.

Futurecode, you said that you used guitarman's settings, can you please tell me if you were able to access the color/tint menu? Can you also check which firmware is on the projector.

much appreciated

atabea
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post #962 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Futurecode, you said that you used guitarman's settings, can you please tell me if you were able to access the color/tint menu? Can you also check which firmware is on the projector.

much appreciated

atabea

I was not. I didn't delve to much into the settings cause I just wanted to experience the projector. I know he said he only got those settings available if he fed the projector specific content (1080p 24 if I remember correctly) . I'll see if I can get those settings to show up over the next few days.

I'll also check on my firmware version tonight.

I do know that you could only make color/tint settings available over component with the HD66, this may be the case with the HD33 also.
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post #963 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by TrickMcKaha View Post

Owners of these projectors who use DLPLink glasses, please tell whether 3D videos start with the correct eye 50% of the time as had always been the case with the HD66, or if somehow Optoma found a way to have most of the videos start with the correct eye most of the time. Could someone start a video say 10 times and note how many times the eyes were correct vs. reversed?

I would not expect that L-R would ever reverse after a video started.

i have covered this issue in my review in this thread...but once more...Optoma has super optimized DLP-link....no washed balcks, no L/R sync issues, no loss of sync in bright scenes like HD66
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post #964 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Valid w/the DMP-BDT110 as well, which is only around $100.

but no dual-hdmi
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post #965 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by futurecode View Post

I was not. I didn't delve to much into the settings cause I just wanted to experience the projector. I know he said he only got those settings available if he fed the projector specific content (1080p 24 if I remember correctly) . I'll see if I can get those settings to show up over the next few days.

I'll also check on my firmware version tonight.

I do know that you could only make color/tint settings available over component with the HD66, this may be the case with the HD33 also.

Thanks very much futurecode, for your prompt response. I believe this is a critical issue for those trying to decide between the HD33 and the HD3300. If, indeed, you cannot access the color/tint menu under any circumstance then that may be a deal breaker. If you can access it then that would prove there is really no meaningful differences between the two (warranty and ISF notwithstanding).

thanks atabea
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post #966 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Thanks very much futurecode, for your prompt response. I believe this is a critical issue for those trying to decide between the HD33 and the HD3300. If, indeed, you cannot access the color/tint menu under any circumstance then that may be a deal breaker. If you can access it then that would prove there is really no meaningful differences between the two (warranty and ISF notwithstanding).

thanks atabea

HD33 manual says these are accessible only in Video mode. have not tried that myself. The way i see it, you can adjust color/tint indirectly through the individual color controls....dont ask me how
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post #967 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

HD33 manual says these are accessible only in Video mode. have not tried that myself. The way i see it, you can adjust color/tint indirectly through the individual color controls....dont ask me how

thanks falafala,

just wanted to be sure the HD33 can be tuned exactly like the HD3300 (minus the ISF options of course). If you do try and you cannot access the color/tint menu please remember to post back here. It's the only piece of information I am waiting for before I make a final decision.
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post #968 of 5228
9/14/11 at 12:59pm
Just got confirmation that my HD3300 was delivered this afternoon. A big thanks to Mike at AVS for taking care of me.
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post #969 of 5228
9/14/11 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

but no dual-hdmi

Another option is to upgrade to a 3D receiver.

I sold my non-3D 2010 Denon and got a 2011 3D Denon for about $50 more. So, instead of spending $50 more on a dual-hdmi BD player, I now have a HDMI 1.4a receiver, that does the job with Panny 110 (and can be used with HTPC, satellite etc).
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post #970 of 5228
9/14/11 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post


5) believe it or not, I saw cross talk with RF glasses !!!!!! I swapped btween the two to be doubly sure, but DLP-link had no such issue...this was during the IMAX logo at the beginning of Hubble 3D...also Image looked less poppy with RF...I will compare more movies to see how prevalent this is

Well that right there might explain why Art posted about crosstalk in his review as well as PJCentral's review. It also explains why I have never seen it with my DLP Link glasses on my RP TV. If the source is good then any ghosting/crosstalk has to be attributed to the display. That, it would seem includes the glasses as they are part of the display process. Since the DLP Link glasses do not exhibit this we are left with the RF Glasses. Curious to see if you are able to dial them in as was suggested.

I wonder if those reviews used RF glasses because I was shocked to read about crosstalk.

I am really considering this PJ now but I also saw pictures of the Vivitek H1086-3D that was shown at CEDIA. Unfortunately there is little posted anywhere I could find about it. Seems like it has some decent features though 5k:1 CR is not one that jumps out at me. Surely someone saw this one in action.
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post #971 of 5228
9/14/11 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Another option is to upgrade to a 3D receiver.

I sold my non-3D 2010 Denon and got a 2011 3D Denon for about $50 more. So, instead of spending $50 more on a dual-hdmi BD player, I now have a HDMI 1.4a receiver, that does the job with Panny 110 (and can be used with HTPC, satellite etc).

I did the same exact thing. Last month I sold my six year old Denon for one of this years models that pass 3D. Ended up with better sound fidelity, 1.4 and extras for only 65 bucks extra. I had to utilize family friends Best Buy discount to make it happen, but a nice little upgrade.
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post #972 of 5228
9/14/11 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by futurecode View Post

I did the same exact thing. Last month I sold my six year old Denon for one of this years models that pass 3D. Ended up with better sound fidelity, 1.4 and extras for only 65 bucks extra. I had to utilize family friends Best Buy discount to make it happen, but a nice little upgrade.

how do you sell old AV ? mine is 2 year old
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post #973 of 5228
9/14/11 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

I didnt know this..let me look for it....

even if i get the cross-talk eliminated, I am not happy about the varying thickness of the lense....this is not good for the eyes

I wonder why others who are using RF glasses (like guitarman) aren't seeing any of the issues. May be your glasses aren't properly setup for the projector (i.e. glasses need some adjustment in delay etc).

BTW, I think you should call Optoma and talked to them about this. Atleast they can investigate ...
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post #974 of 5228
9/14/11 at 2:55pm
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Wing sent me this info on the color/tint.

"One technical detail forgot mention in our phone call, color and tint is supported if signal was YCbCr or YPbPr – analog or digital component signal in C02.


If signal was RGB then there is no color and tint support even in C02. (users are recommended to adjust color using RGB gain and bias)"

Basically if you're using the numbers I got for gain/bias and the picture looks better and natural you're all set. I didn't touch tint and think color is sat at stock also.

I don't reconized the part number falafala stated for the glasses on the Optoma box sticker it just says "model number Optoma 3D-RF, same thing is printed on the glasses.
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post #975 of 5228
9/14/11 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

I wonder why others who are using RF glasses (like guitarman) aren't seeing any of the issues. May be your glasses aren't properly setup for the projector (i.e. glasses need some adjustment in delay etc).

BTW, I think you should call Optoma and talked to them about this. Atleast they can investigate ...

With my Optoma HD66, I had tested some old (IO Display) IR glasses along with my DLP-Link glasses. The IO Display glasses showed just a nip of ghosting with a 3D test pattern, but with the DLP-Link glasses, it was gone.

3-D test patterns, while not always representing "typical" 3-D viewing in the case of cross talk issues, are still a very essential tool.
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post #976 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I don't reconized the part number falafala stated for the glasses on the Optoma box sticker it just says "model number Optoma 3D-RF, same thing is printed on the glasses.

Are you talking about "Optoma BG-ZD101" ? That is the DLP Link glasses he tried.
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post #977 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Another option is to upgrade to a 3D receiver.

I sold my non-3D 2010 Denon and got a 2011 3D Denon for about $50 more. So, instead of spending $50 more on a dual-hdmi BD player, I now have a HDMI 1.4a receiver, that does the job with Panny 110 (and can be used with HTPC, satellite etc).

I do have a 3D receiver Onkyo 608 but I have an audiophile Arcam receiver sitting just waiting for the 7.1 outputs which this Samsung BD-C6800 has. Nothing out there like the Arcam, I compared it to my Marantz SR-18 and Harmon Kardon AVR7200 both reference receivers. Arcam tone hands down is the best.
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post #978 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:04pm
Got my 3300 today! Will be a couple of days till i have everything set up (my first projector). I can tell you that AVS had this baby packaged very well. The box was inside a larger box filled with packing peanuts. Can't wait to fire it up!
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post #979 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by Searching4Signal View Post

Just got confirmation that my HD3300 was delivered this afternoon. A big thanks to Mike at AVS for taking care of me.

Wow allot of guys buying the HD3300, must be a decent deal I have an idea what you're getting them for. Don't say it
enjoy
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post #980 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:15pm
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Here's the glasses box / labels.

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses1.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses2.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses3.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses4.jpg
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post #981 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

how do you sell old AV ? mine is 2 year old

I craigslist it for a while, then ebay it if i doesn't sell in a few months.

Keep immaculate care of your stuff, keep all boxing, paper work, basically everything it came with at purchase and you'd be surprised what you can make.
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post #982 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Wow allot of guys buying the HD3300, must be a decent deal I have an idea what you're getting them for. Don't say it
enjoy

At the AVS price for the HD3300, I personally wouldn't buy the HD33, it's not worth the slight savings over the better warranty and contrast of the HD3300...
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post #983 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Hanscion View Post

Got my 3300 today! Will be a couple of days till i have everything set up (my first projector). I can tell you that AVS had this baby packaged very well. The box was inside a larger box filled with packing peanuts. Can't wait to fire it up!

you lucky dog!
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post #984 of 5228
9/14/11 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

At the AVS price for the HD3300, I personally wouldn't buy the HD33, it's not worth the slight savings over the better warranty and contrast of the HD3300...

unless state tax kills the deal
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post #985 of 5228
9/14/11 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Here's the glasses box / labels.

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses1.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses2.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses3.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/rfglasses4.jpg

yes these are the same RF glasses i tried....the other model i gave is for DLP-link
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post #986 of 5228
9/14/11 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

At the AVS price for the HD3300, I personally wouldn't buy the HD33, it's not worth the slight savings over the better warranty and contrast of the HD3300...

When did anyone declare that the HD3300 had better contrast???
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post #987 of 5228
9/14/11 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

When did anyone declare that the HD3300 had better contrast???

Optoma site does, do not know if there is an error there. 1800 lumens 4k:1 vs 1900 lumens 5k:1. Under the specs of the 3300 it shows 2000 lumens. Even Optoma does not know.
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post #988 of 5228
9/14/11 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

When did anyone declare that the HD3300 had better contrast???

At least on paper....
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post #989 of 5228
9/14/11 at 5:07pm
Got my HD33 today. This is my first 3D PJ. Also have a Panny PT-AE4000U 2D PJ. I'm blown away by 3D... watched bits of 'Megamind', 'Tangled', 'IMAX Under the Sea' and a couple others. Called my wife and 6-year-old daughter and they wanted to keep watching 'Tangled'. At first, the PJ would not pick up the HDMI output from my Onkyo TX-SR608, only directly from my Panny DMP-BDT110 3D Blu-ray player. Disconnected and reconnected the HDMI cables and it worked, but seems a little finicky.

Using default Cinema mode (no calibration yet) for now, and the PQ seems quite good. Bright enough for me, but I have a fully light-controlled HT room. However, being used to the flexibility of my Panny AE4000U, I can tell the placement of the Optoma HD33 is going to be a challenge. For now, I just have it on a table in front of the sofa, but will likely need to ceiling-mount it. 2D PQ is quite good, but my Panny AE4000U is better, so I'm leaning toward keeping it, especially as I often use its lens memory feature to watch scope movies on my Dalite HP screen.

But, if you're on the fence about 3D, trust me, jump in with the HD33. At the price, it's well worth it.
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post #990 of 5228
9/14/11 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

But, if you're on the fence about 3D, trust me, jump in with the HD33. At the price, it's well worth it.

What lenses are you using ?

I'm still on the fence about which lenses to get.
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