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post #1 of 48
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Ok guys, my review copy arrived yesterday.

http://twitpic.com/67nu5n

Yes it's an X360 version, but I've seen the PS3 version on two occasions now, E3 2010 and E3 2011 and I cna tell you both versions are identical.

So tell me, what would you like to get out of a DE:HR review? And I mean specifically, what would you like to know about?
post #2 of 48
I'm looking forward to the title. I pre-ordered six months ago on the preview info.

I'm looking forward to a solid rpg experience, especially after playing Dragon age 2. Is it a sanbox (Oblivion) type of game or is it linear? Can you seemlessly explore different areas or is it like Dragon Age with the map/travel to system? How is the combat? Is the story involving and interesting, or is it like DA 2 where I have no idea what the hell the purpose is? I suppose that's about it. Thanks.
post #3 of 48
How long to play though, interest in replay, and how does it look compared to PC?
post #4 of 48
Two things: Is the enemy AI the smart kind, or the dumb kind? Also would like to know if you can really play through the entire game as a non killing stealth guy, or a bullet spewing super soldier. Lots of games say you can but seldom put it into practice.
post #5 of 48
Ditto on the replayability: how different is it when played as a stealth game vs an action game, and are there consequences to choices you make?
post #6 of 48
Some detail on the customization/skill trees. I know it's a given, but an in-depth look would be great.
post #7 of 48
Pleasantly surprised to see a big new release at less than the standard $60-70. At Best Buy in Canada, Deus Ex HR is only $53.99 (the Augmented Edition is $69.99).
post #8 of 48
The early reviews have been quite positive. From Joystiq:

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Looks like Deus Ex: Human Revolution is setting a high bar for the deluge of mega-titles launching between now and the holidays. Our review called the title "an imperfect, complex and ambitious reminder of what a game can be when it's unafraid." That theme plays out in several other reviews, with the imperfections being far outweighed by the game's considerable execution and ambition.
  • Eurogamer (90/100): "Deus Ex: Human Revolution is probably not as perfect as I'm making it sound. Some of the rules about what's interactive and not seem quite arbitrary, which is a pretty blatant failing in a game which tries so hard to make you feel like you're not being restricted, and while the level design is clever and varied, the interior design definitely is not, and there's also a lot of repetition in the incidental details."
  • IGN (90/100): "It's a visionary, considered piece of work, and while my thoughts drift to the things that could have been and the compromises made due to the possibilities of video games in 2011, they're just as quick to consider playing through it again. Human Revolution is a smart, rewarding piece of transhumanist noir that does justice not just to Deus Ex, but to the fiction that inspired it. "
  • GameTrailers (87/100): "Deus Ex offers a good deal of mischief to get into, and it's all backed up by a great stealth system and a solid shooting game. With its variable story, as well as how it encourages you to alter your approach to obstacles, it's also a game that rewards multiple playthroughs. The future is bleak and at times ugly, but we wouldn't have it any other way."
  • 1UP (A): "I don't normally replay games, but there are exceptions: I've probably played through Metal Gear Solid 3 a dozen times and Deus Ex about four. I have a feeling that DEHR is going to be one of those games. I'm loving the sheer amount of choice I have because it's up to me to discover it. "
post #9 of 48
I'd seriously been ignoring this game because of the lackluster sequel. The first game had some real talent and lineage behind it, but I really didn't expect this third game to amount to much.

Looks like I was wrong. I'll definitely check this out ASAP.
post #10 of 48
I haven't played the other games. Anybody know if knowledge of the earlier story will be important to understand what's going on in this game?
post #11 of 48
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Originally Posted by confidenceman
I'd seriously been ignoring this game because of the lackluster sequel. The first game had some real talent and lineage behind it, but I really didn't expect this third game to amount to much.

Looks like I was wrong. I'll definitely check this out ASAP.
Felt the same way about the sequel, I have been hesitant about this..but I think I will give it a try....pc version though, daddy gotta new machine lol
post #12 of 48
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Originally Posted by frankthetoad View Post

I haven't played the other games. Anybody know if knowledge of the earlier story will be important to understand what's going on in this game?

This is a prequel, so I imagine not.
post #13 of 48
This is a pretty good game. I've never played the previous games, but I like how it lets you choose between a "guns a blazing" or stealth approach. The graphics aren't the greatest, but I knew this going in. It's kind of a cross between Mass Effect and Metal Gear in that it's essentially a stealth shooter with RPG elements. The hybrid FPS/third person cover works surprisingly well.

There are a few annoying things (like how some people don't face you when you talk to them), but the main problem I have with this game is the story. I love the whole cyberpunk world that has been created, but the story is a huge part of this game and I'm having a hard time getting into it. I don't know if it's the bad voice acting or the boring dialogue, but it's just not working for me. It really makes me appreciate Bioware for their storytelling in the Mass Effect series.

I'm afraid if I don't get this game done by Sept. 6th, it will probably join my ever increasing pile of unfinished games (Sept. - Resistance 3, Gears of War 3; Oct. - Rage, Dark Souls, Batman AC, Battlefield 3; Nov. - Uncharted 3, MW3, Skyrim).
post #14 of 48
http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/...rom-pc-copies/

Wow... is this even legal (apparently Gamestop is opening up and removing coupons for free Onlive from pc copies of Deus Ex HR)?
post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by Mikazaru View Post

http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/...rom-pc-copies/

Wow... is this even legal (apparently Gamestop is opening up and removing coupons for free Onlive from pc copies of Deus Ex HR)?

You deserve it if you set foot in a Gamespot. They're worse than wallmart for the gaming community as a whole.
post #16 of 48
Gamestop is the only company I know of that opens games and still sell them as new. Taking out coupons is a new low. Nice slippery slope.

And I plan on supporting the Gamestop machine by trading in my PS3 to them...yes, I feed the beast.
post #17 of 48
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Gamestop is the only company I know of that opens games and still sell them as new. Taking out coupons is a new low. Nice slippery slope.

And I plan on supporting the Gamestop machine by trading in my PS3 to them...yes, I feed the beast.

Opens them, sells them as new, then refuses returns of opened games.

They're the devil. I'll have no moral qualm about "selling" them my YLOD PS3 for a slim. Business is business after all.
post #18 of 48
lol if what gamestop tries to do in the netherlands. i would do the same we when i sued sony. it would be an easy win too.

seems in USA and UK you can get away with it.

what gamestop should have done, deliver all the sealed copies back to Square. demand they take it out. and give them new sealed games.

instead gamestop opens up the pc game boxes take out the onlive code and then sell it.

basicly you get a second hands game.

although i understand what gamestop tries to do, they do it the wrong way.

if that **** would happen to me, man would be a sweet day in court.
post #19 of 48
I think it's funny the gaming community is up in Arms but Square says, "Well we didn't tell them, so we can't be mad."
http://kotaku.com/5834260/square-eni...deus-ex-recall

They allowed the Portal 2 promo code for STEAM for PS3 Copies because STEAM made them aware of the promo.

As far as the open copy of games; it's either that or you start paying more to cover the THEFTS that would occur. You need to display a game for sale. They could put a fake cover art on the floor but then people would Bitch about it not being the real case and can't check player amounts, co-op, on-line functions and so on. On top of that there would be people bitching about how the game was on the shelf but GS did have any copies false advertising, blah, blah, blah.

People are crazy sometimes with what they think the world owes them; in my experience, if the NEW copy is a floor or display copy and the seal is broken; you can simply ask for a discount; I’ve never had any problems getting 10% off an opened copy.

Honestly! How many people that purchased the game even knew what OnLive was; i'd say about 1-3%, just saying; it's dumb when this becomes National/World News; when the UK just release 9,000 pages of UFO files, Geezzz Laaaa Weeeezzz, GOSH!!!!!!
post #20 of 48
What are you trying to say RoguishClyde? Your rant is not very clear. Are you defending GS and saying that it is the customers fault for buying a new game that has been tampered with and they should demand a discount? How about they just NOT f#$% with the game contents and just sell it? They are already a POS company that over charges for everything and prey upon ignorance and laziness.
post #21 of 48
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What are you trying to say RoguishClyde? Your rant is not very clear. Are you defending GS and saying that it is the customers fault for buying a new game that has been tampered with and they should demand a discount? How about they just NOT f#$% with the game contents and just sell it? They are already a POS company that over charges for everything and prey upon ignorance and laziness.

1st, I'm not defending anyone; I'm saying if you're going to be pissed be mad at square they did not follow the proper chains apparently. No info to back that up; but there pretty laid back and nonchalant about this travesty!

2nd; if what you say is what you want then we should make GS a drive through; you come to the window ask for a game if they have it great if not then bye. It's a business you need to have a store front with merchandise displayed and merchandise to sell. As far as your over priced argument on some things used yes but supply & demand is key for example Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on PS2 was $79.99 used for the greater part of 15 years until recently re-released digitally, but all NEW pricing is set by the publisher/developer. A company can offer discounts and purchase bonuses but that company has to eat that if it's monetary; Amazon, Ebay, and so on are Web based companies and can afford to do these things because they don't specialize in one sector of sales or don't have to have a store front and lease a building. And most of these stores again Amazon, Best Buy, NFM and so on offer in store money so they get you to come back.

3rd, It doesn't hurt to ask for a discount; if your upset; awww sorry it's the last copy deal with it! If I go to a retailer and want a TV but they only have a floor model left they would give me a deep discount but I wouldn't take it because it really has been used. An open game is just that an opened game; it's like an HDMI cable it either works or it doesn't.

As far as the company goes with it's employees and service that's neither here nor there, you're dealing with a human; you could be CEO of the Christian Children's fund and still be a dick! In my experience with my local store they are knowledgeable and respectful, they do offer Reserves and Power up cards on every visit but that's their job.

Just a little tid bit; If you are informed then you know Best Buy is following in GS footsteps and now has the same practices as far as reserves and gamer clubs. Hope this cleared some things up for ya. Check the link; that image looks awfully familiar, Circle of life anyone?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/07/...gaming-stores/
post #22 of 48
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Originally Posted by tgable View Post

What are you trying to say RoguishClyde? Your rant is not very clear. Are you defending GS and saying that it is the customers fault for buying a new game that has been tampered with and they should demand a discount? How about they just NOT f#$% with the game contents and just sell it? They are already a POS company that over charges for everything and prey upon ignorance and laziness.

I think he's saying stealing is ok as long as the victim doesn't know about it.
post #23 of 48
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I think he's saying stealing is ok as long as the victim doesn't know about it.

Two Questions: Did you read my posts? Did you comprehend my posts?

Ok, back on topic, Deus Ex; Great Game!

Trophy for Non-Lethal Play through is crazy; but I'm sure very satisfying in the least!
post #24 of 48
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Originally Posted by RoguishClyde View Post

Two Questions: Did you read my posts? Did you comprehend my posts?

It was a challenge, I admit. When you said "Honestly! How many people that purchased the game even knew what OnLive was; i'd say about 1-3%, just saying..." it implied that you view unsound practices as acceptable. Sorry if I misinterpreted it.

I will drop it though since you are a fan of Dark Souls, which makes us friends.
post #25 of 48
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Originally Posted by tfoltz View Post

It was a challenge, I admit. When you said "Honestly! How many people that purchased the game even knew what OnLive was; i'd say about 1-3%, just saying..." it implied that you view unsound practices as acceptable. Sorry if I misinterpreted it.

I will drop it though since you are a fan of Dark Souls, which makes us friends.

I don't condone it not one bit, I want to be clear on that, stealing is stealing but Square is cool with it which means it must be legal.

As far as the quote you pulled; I was using this example in my head:
I personally purchased a used copy of Portal 2 from GS and inside was the code for the free copy on Steam. Mind you this was a used copy and the code was still active; so I now have Portal 2 on Steam as well.

And Yes, Supporting Dark Souls does make us friends or is it enemies; I guess we'll find out on October 4th, Invasion!!!!! (Hip-Hop Air-raid Sirens) ,LOL!!!!
post #26 of 48
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I don't condone it not one bit, I want to be clear on that, stealing is stealing but Square is cool with it which means it must be legal.

First off, the people running both GS and Square are top of the line a-holes. The people who get screwed are consumers. It doesn't matter who's to blame; that was a ****** thing to do, "legal" or not.

That said, GS's reaction was especially ******. Not only did they not tell consumers what they had done before they sold these games to them as "new," but the motivation wasn't that Square didn't follow the "proper channels." That was just their official line to the press. The real reason GS pulled the OnLive code is because GS is starting its own competing PC streaming service. It was a petty reaction, and consumers suffer for it.

This also sucks for the developers. They clearly made a surprisingly awesome game, but now this incident may affect how the game is perceived. Hopefully this mess passes by quickly.
post #27 of 48
I've played Deus Ex: Human Revolution for a few hours and color me unimpressed. Everything about this game screams mediocrity in my opinion. The voice acting is some of the cheesiest dialogue I've heard in a while (on par with the original Resident Evil), and the lead voice actor just sounds like he's trying to channel his inner Alec Baldwin. The delivery of said cheesy lines doesn't help either.

Graphically I find it a mixed bag. Some cool looking environments for sure, but there is a certain blandness to everything. I can't put my finger on it. The character models made me laugh. I know it's a science fiction cyber punk-esque futuristic tale, but does everyone have to have such broad shoulders? The facial animation is fairly decent, though. The sound design/mix is not done well and is actually quite boring. Dialogue is often drowned out by the music and sound effects, and I couldn't find a happy balance in the audio menu.

Perhaps I need to play it some more, but I honestly don't care what happens in the lackluster story. I have quite a few friends who love this game. I guess this game just isn't for me.
post #28 of 48
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Originally Posted by confidenceman View Post

First off, the people running both GS and Square are top of the line a-holes. The people who get screwed are consumers. It doesn't matter who's to blame; that was a ****** thing to do, "legal" or not.

That said, GS's reaction was especially ******. Not only did they not tell consumers what they had done before they sold these games to them as "new," but the motivation wasn't that Square didn't follow the "proper channels." That was just their official line to the press. The real reason GS pulled the OnLive code is because GS is starting its own competing PC streaming service. It was a petty reaction, and consumers suffer for it.

Understood but people always jump straight to 'I'm gonna sue and win, Oh yeah!!!' That is the main reason I even commented on this; My ps3 won't run newer PC games and neither will my laptop so, whatever, LOL!!!

They could have went about it another way very true; but they were not informed until after release and had people in store or in route to pick it up; they can't turn away a customer that preordered the game. Then there would have been HEADLINE: 'Gamestop refuses to sell games to customers that are willing to pay!'

I'm sure they sold a bunch of copies before this was caught; then all of the sudden a corp. email went out and panic ensued; they did what they were told.

According to the link from Kotaku all stock has been shipped back to Square. So there is usually a wallmart right next to every gamestop so you feed one parasite or the other.
post #29 of 48
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According to the link from Kotaku all stock has been shipped back to Square. So there is usually a wallmart right next to every gamestop so you feed one parasite or the other.

No joke. The full Digital Download era can't come soon enough.

Also, it looks like GS isn't just doing a PC streaming service. They're actually aiming higher than that. It'll be a PS3/360 streaming service. No details really yet, though, other than a supposed beta in early 2012.
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