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post #1141 of 2899
I've not had problems with subtitles with this set up. They just work and i can thumb through them using my H 900 remote but I also don't have too many DVD rips as they're mostly Blu-ray rips. It must be something in the way you've set it up. As far as ISO goes I use mkv's so cannot help there but AFAIK, WMC won't mount an ISO.
post #1142 of 2899
I have a laptop with a i7-3920XM processor, a NVidia GTX 680m graphics adapter, and it runs Win7 Ult 64bit w/sp1. Is this guide (along with Renethx's configuration tips) still the best option for 24bit audio? And is Reclock still needed?
Edited by Lostclusters - 8/8/12 at 10:02pm
post #1143 of 2899
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Originally Posted by danbez View Post

I am trying to move away from TMT5 and instead use MPC-HC for all my media needs. But I am facing two issues :
a. I can't display subtitles in some DVDs, like Austin Powers and the Goldmember. It's a full rip of the original DVD, using the Video_TS folder structure. Other players, like the WMC default one and TMT5 can display the subtitles just fine. Is there a limitation on SubTitles support on MPC-HC using MadVR and Lav filters as described in this thread?
b. all my Blu-Ray rips are ISOs. While MPC-HC can read the ISOs, the output is usually garbage. Pixelation, noise, etc. All is fine if I first mount the ISO using VCD and then play it. (my content is stored in an Unraid server, using a Gigabit network). If opening the ISOs directly is not reliable, is there a way to set MPC-HC to auto-load Blu-Ray disks inside Windows Media Center? This way I could just remove it as an External player in MEdiaBrowser and instead just let the ISO get mounted and wait for the AutoPlay to kick in.
Thanks

maybe just convert them to mkv would be easiest.

as for subtitles, i don't use them much but i did need forced subtitles for john carter and I was able to just use the load subtitles feature of mpc. i don't know if that would work on dvd's or not as i don't watch them much unless i want to watch some of my old movies.

I think you could just download the movie subtitle you want for whatever dvd and use the load subtitle of mpc to have subtitles.
post #1144 of 2899
hello mindbomb, did you remove the MAdVR alternative way ? (EVR & DirectVobSub)?
post #1145 of 2899
Apparently so but and explanation of MadVR settings can be found here.
post #1146 of 2899
Is there any page or link with an explanation of all the MPC-HC display data? What the data means & perhaps what it should be under ideal conditions.
post #1147 of 2899
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

Is there any page or link with an explanation of all the MPC-HC display data? What the data means & perhaps what it should be under ideal conditions.

not really that I could find, I looked lots of places and nothing had a great tutorial.
post #1148 of 2899
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tony_Montana View Post

hello mindbomb, did you remove the MAdVR alternative way ? (EVR & DirectVobSub)?

yea, tbh, i felt i really rushed the instructions there.
Plus, getting madvr used is probably the major incentive to embark on this whole endeavor anyway.
post #1149 of 2899
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

not really that I could find, I looked lots of places and nothing had a great tutorial.

I too looked all over & thought I might have missed something. There's so many pieces of data displayed when using ctrl+j that I'm not sure what does what or if any area needs improvement.

Thanks for also looking.
post #1150 of 2899
Also there is different info displayed when you use evr vs madvr.

So you may not see something on yours that you see posted.
post #1151 of 2899
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

I too looked all over & thought I might have missed something. There's so many pieces of data displayed when using ctrl+j that I'm not sure what does what or if any area needs improvement.
Thanks for also looking.

well, when I am using madvr, the main thing I look for is that my queue values remain full or pretty close to full.

I added some information about lav audio's mixer in the op now, I just found out about it (coming back from a bit of a hiatus here)
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 8/10/12 at 12:10pm
post #1152 of 2899
@MINDBOMB: Would you happen to know of what could be causing some issues with playing back mkvs with MPC-HC and TrueHD tracks? Only particular rips are causing me problems like 300, Batman Begins and Star Trek. Other rips that have TrueHD are not causing the issue. This is with a HTPC with a gts450 in win7 32bit using LAV.

I know these files play cleanly in another HTPC that has a HD5670 in win7 with LAV.

Here is an image of GraphStudio rendering 300. I do have MPC-HC blocking MPC-MPA Decoder filter.




I know I've posted on this but I really would like to know what is causing this as it is bugging me.
Edited by utee05 - 8/10/12 at 1:53pm
post #1153 of 2899
Thread Starter 
if you are using haali instead of lav splitter, that might cause the issue with lav audio and true hd.

also, it could be an issue with vc-1 video decoding, right?
post #1154 of 2899
I do not think it is a VC-1 issue as I do not have issues with any other files except for those 3 (that I know of).

I noticed that since I am using eac3to it uses Haali Matroska Muxer . Would this cause issues during playback? The only thing on this is that it must not be causing the issue cause I use eac3to all the time and no other files exhibit this issue. Other than that I do not have Haali installed on my HTPC that is showing problems. I have never installed Haali on my htpc at all.

Here is a screenshot of the external filters in mpc-hc
post #1155 of 2899
You need to specifically block Haali in that window so that LAV video will be used.

Alternatively, remove Haali from your system.
post #1156 of 2899
I do not have Haali on the problematic htpc. I have never installed it at all an it isn't an option to block either. I have Haali installed on my pc that I use for ripping.
post #1157 of 2899
Have you tried sharks? His pack offers more control as you can set everything in one place. I believe he also has versions of mpc-hc with the internal filters stripped out so you wouldn't have to worry about them.
post #1158 of 2899
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Originally Posted by netuserf View Post

Hi,
I need to use the LameAutoCrop script :http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152177 but I think it is only for ffdshow, so how can I use it when I applied this guide to my setting ?
thanks for your help^smile.gif

Anyone can please help ? I don't want to go back on ffdshow as it break my HD playback. No one know how to autocrop boxed Vob videos with Madvr ?

Thanks a lot if anyone can please help
post #1159 of 2899
I have MPC-HC setup with the three LAV encoders and madVR, however when I play some of my multichannel video files the audio gets really low in some scenes. I have a 2.1 speaker set for my computer so I'm guessing it has something to do with the multichannel audio not downsampling to 2.1 properly or something like that. How would I fix this?

EDIT: I fixed the issue by enabling the mixing in the LAV Audio Decoder options (double click the LAV Audio Decoder in the External Filters).
Edited by fake1337 - 8/12/12 at 11:05am
post #1160 of 2899
Awesome guide, thanks MINDBOMB for posting this.

I'm using an AMD HD 6570 in my htpc (q6600 machine, win7 32-bit), and if I select DXVA2 native as the lav video's hardware decoder, it's fine, whereas in DXVA2 copy-back i get noticeable frame loss. Setting everything to bilinear seemed to fix this, but my understanding is that doing so compromises the quality of the video, if ever slightly. I'm a bit miffed, to be honest, I was of the understanding the 6570 was a more-than-capable card if you're just looking at 1080p playback.

While I imagine I'm no worse off just keeping the setting at DXVA2 native, is it generally recommended to be using Lav video and MadVR with a nVidia card rather than an AMD? If I want the best of the best am I better off just getting a nVidia card with HDMI out, and then going cuvid for decoding? If so, what would be a good choice? While Anandtech recommended the gt430 in their htpc gpu shootout, I want something that I can be sure is just going to laugh at whatever I could throw at it.
post #1161 of 2899
i would not change GPU.
many people here use MadVr with weaker cards than yours.
Check again your settings, re-install drivers, filters, mpc-hc , etc


your cpu is capable for sw decoding,too
post #1162 of 2899
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Originally Posted by Tony_Montana View Post

i would not change GPU.
many people here use MadVr with weaker cards than yours.
Check again your settings, re-install drivers, filters, mpc-hc , etc
your cpu is capable for sw decoding,too

I only just put it all on there, actually, and followed the guide precisely. It's a relatively clean setup that has had very little installed. I don't even have it connected to the net.

I had the hardware decoding set to none (software) originally, but once in a blue moon during playback, part of the screen would appear jumbled. I just figured it was the CPU buckling under the pressure, albeit very occasionally. I'll do some more testing and report back with my findings biggrin.gif

Edit: I've removed Reclock from my setup as it was causing a mildy frustrating issue during playback. My receiver is an Onkyo TX-NR1007, and as soon as any mkv would start playing, it would click a couple of times (as Onkyo's do), resulting in brief audio loss. It would only happen maybe two times within the first 5 seconds, but it was enough to make me want to get rid of it. I have my audio renderer set to amd's hdmi out device now, and it seems to work just as well. Since I just bitstream anyway, it all ends up the same.
Edited by Venturai - 8/12/12 at 5:40am
post #1163 of 2899
Hello, I'm having a problem with fast forwarding and scrubbing. Whenever I do either, MPC-HC freezes and has to be shut down. I just reinstalled W7 64, but I have the 32 bit mpc, mad vr and Lav. I do use the 64 bit Shark 007. Not sure if this is a MadVr thing or maybe a network issue? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
post #1164 of 2899
Thread Starter 
I think that just happens sometimes with network playback. All I can say is that you should use the latest stable mpc hc, that might help.

@Venturai
dxva native does not work with madvr, you are essentially using software decoding. With a q6600, there should really never be an issue with playback, as lav video does make use of all 4 cores very efficiently.

I'm interested in this sound issue. Are a lot of people finding they have issues with reclock and bitstreaming? does it go away if you unclick the "accept bitstream formats" in the config?
maybe i shouldn't instruct people to check that option then.
post #1165 of 2899
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

@Venturai
dxva native does not work with madvr, you are essentially using software decoding. With a q6600, there should really never be an issue with playback, as lav video does make use of all 4 cores very efficiently.
I'm interested in this sound issue. Are a lot of people finding they have issues with reclock and bitstreaming? does it go away if you unclick the "accept bitstream formats" in the config?
maybe i shouldn't instruct people to check that option then.

I really shouldn't be having an issue with the 6570 and DXVA2 copy-back though, should I? Still, with a CPU such as the Q6600, I imagine it doesn't make a whole lot of difference one way or another. I did wonder why CPU usage was about the same though, so at least now I know why.

As far as Reclock goes, I'll try it again with that setting disabled and report back with my findings smile.gif
post #1166 of 2899
Ok, I've got Reclock back on my setup, and I got it working without the problem I was having before. If I disabled "accept bitstream formats", then of course it just won't bitstream. But if I keep it enabled but disable the "disable media speed correction with bitstream audio", I don't get the playback issues that I was experiencing when first starting mkv's.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with how it's all going now. Since it doesn't sound like dxva2 native is actually doing anything though, when I get back from work tomorrow though I'll set it back to none (software decoding), and see if it still gives me problems. If it does, I might just bite the bullet and pick up a nVidia card when funds allow.
post #1167 of 2899
Thread Starter 
so, you are unchecking that option?
seems odd to me that that would actually help.

on the other hand, since the "reclocking" aspect of reclock has been disabled anyway through the second part of the reclock config, I guess it's possible.
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 8/13/12 at 10:28am
post #1168 of 2899
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

so, you are unchecking that option?
seems odd to me that that would actually help.
on the other hand, since the "reclocking" aspect of reclock has been disabled anyway through the second part of the reclock config, I guess it's possible.

Yeah, it really does sound like there's no need my including reclock as part of the config. I don't think it's really doing anything that wasn't just getting done before. I'll probably remove it again tonight, and leave it at that.
post #1169 of 2899
If anyone here is finding running in mad vr non exclusive mode is giving lost frames, be sure to either test in exclusive mode first or with aero turned off in Vista or upwards. For some reason in standard full screen mode with aero on the target frame rate according to the osd changes from 60 to 30 for me. This in turn breaks 3:2 pull down. Not sure why this happens but a heads up to anyone with a similar problem. Try this before reinstalling etc
post #1170 of 2899
I'm having a slight out of sync problem using this config + a Onkyo 7409 HTiB, it gets worse when I'm on 23hz mode, maybe some changes to reclock will do it?
Edited by juanej - 8/14/12 at 9:13am
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