Advanced MPC-HC Setup Guide - Page 48

I upgraded my HTPC last week and have been having trouble getting bitstreaming working. I used this guide several months ago with a Core2Duo + ATI 5670 after giving up on the Nvidia GT430.

New system is an ASRock H77M-ITX + Intel i3-3220T. I'm running the latest Intel drivers, MPC-HC, LAV filters, and madvr. I have the test files for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA from my previous configuration. Also I have some m2ts with Dolby Digital, TrueHD tracks. For some reason whenever I select the TrueHD track my RX-V867 receiver shows no audio data. If I use TMT5 it comes through as PCM. If I have DTS-MA tracks (from full Bluray rip) it comes through as just DTS core. Any idea what might be wrong? I've reinstalled everything and followed the guide in the original post to the T. Some of the menu screens looked a tad different because of the new versions though. Some screens had some additional options though that I left at default.

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Interesting. I tried copy back in my c2q/HD6850 gaming rig and the 'birds' demo was enough to make it skip frames (fine in software of course). I'll update and try native.

I'll also try it on my Trinity rig.

Support for native DXVA is a huge breakthrough. Suddenly Radeon HD 6xxx including Llano revived.

Just noticed that, but it's greyed out for chroma upscaling.

So many choices now, what's best for what type of hardware?

From what little I know, its seems great....for me 6450


EDIT: definitely better performance, but still can't use Jinc....although I didn't expect that and I really am no expert.
Edited by ser_renely - 11/25/12 at 6:20pm

Doesn't it come down to source? At least that is how I approach it. Everyone is different.

Is there anyway to get around that? Use a different filter? If hat was the case what negatives would that give?


Plans to change that?

I've been using LAV for a long time but one thing I've never been sure of is deinterlacing. Do you have any of the boxes checked such as Aggressive Deinterlacing? And when should you use YADIF?
I generally have DVD rips and a couple BR rips.

Aggressive deinterlacing is usually only required on TV recordings, where the interlacing flags in the streams are sometimes rather screwed up.
YADIF shouldn't be needed on any modern system. It performs deinterlacing on the CPU, instead of leaving it up to the GPU. The GPU can do it faster and usually also in higher quality.

So in short, just leave it at defaults. YADIF off, aggressive off. Although turning aggressive on usually doesn't have any serious negative side-effects.

WASAPI Exclusive via Reclock will bypass the mixer.

If you use Windows 8, the mixer is very high quality though, operating in 32-bit floating-point and the new resampler is free of the aliasing problems Windows 7 and earlier had.

I also have AMD E-350, and with DXVA2 native, I can finally use madVR.
Set Bilinear for Chroma Upscaling, DXVA2 for everything else.

Whoever said that you can't spot difference between madVR and EVR-CP is lying:)
Maybe you can't see difference between still images, but motion in madVR is just...well, smooth:)
Edited by mtosic - 11/26/12 at 3:01pm

Support where? In LAV or MadVR or??

EDIT: I guess the above is a response to this using the latest MadVR:

I dont' have Radeon but rather nVidia GT-430. Any change there or does the latest MadVR still need GTX-660? I haven't bothered to install it yet because I don't have the h/w for it.

Thanks.

Just wondering if there's a way to force LAV Video and/or MadVR within WMC to do the deinterlacing. I'm sort of stuck using WMC for LiveTV with the limitations on CableCARD use only using WMC for CopyProtected Cable Content. Some stations I get have the 59/29 bug. I toggled off "Dynamic Contrast Enhancement" in the nVidia Control Panel and it helped but there's still some flicker.

Hi,
I took the plunge and went thru with your instructions, btw I need to give you thumbs up on the clarity and detail of your instructions.
Unfortunately for me, when I was done, I would hear no actual audio but only a constant clack-clack-clack

Please note my HK 3490 is a stereo receiver, unable to decode digital surround

For now, I have reset MPC to default settings, is there somehting I need to do differently considering the above

video & audio are coming out of the pc thru a newly installed nvdia gpu hdmi out to tv, then audio goes from tv to receiver with optical

The new version doesn't need more performance by itself. You can still run it on on your GPU as before. There is simply a new scaling option called "Jinc", which may look better then the others, but it also requires some more steam.
So if you have a good GPU, you can switch the scaling algorithm to Jinc and enjoy a better image, or if you have a somewhat low GPU, you can simply use it with whatever scaling you had configured before. Its an optional new feature, it doesn't require more performance unless you use it.

AFAIK, GT-430 was always enough for madVR (because you could use CUVID instead of DXVA2 copy back which was needed for AMD cards and was significantly slower).
But now, when madVR supports DXVA2 native, you should really have no problems with madVR, it even works with AMD Zacate (E-350) which is alot faster then Zacate.

In my experience you can from within Media Browser (just point it at the Recorded TV folder in setup) and you also need to add and block 'Stream Buffer source' in MPC-HC. Can't say I am impressed by the results though as I get a lot of jerkiness (1080i 50hz BBC HD). Support for .wtv seems limited which has always struck me as odd, unless I am missing something and not found the relevant thread here or on Doom9!

wtv is a closed format from Microsoft only used by WMC, why would it be odd that such a closed format is poorly supported, when there are many standardized formats which just make much more sense to focus your development efforts on?

It depends on the algorithm you choose.

- GT 430 - GTX 650: good for Lanczos+AR / any except for Jinc (Luma / Chroma)
- GTX 650 Ti: good for Jinc3+AR / Jinc3+AR (Luma / Chroma)
- GTX 660: good for Jinc4+AR / Jinc4+AR (Luma / Chroma)

Actually, out of curiosity, I just went back and checked my MPC-HC + LAV + MadVR + Reclock setup and then ran through a selection of .wtv files (SD and HD UK recordings) and they all played perfectly via Media Browser. I recently upgraded the Nvidia card to a GTX650Ti from a GT430 because the latter was overheating on some BBC HD recorded content (usually 'Later with Jools Holland') so maybe it contributed to the stuttering. Had not got around to checking the .wtv files as I have been playing around with Jinc, which is great by the way. As for .wtv being a closed format, that is normally a red rag to a bull when it comes to developers!

The MSI GTX 650Ti is a superb video card in a HTPC as it runs almost totally silently because of its hybrid passive/active cooling system and it runs Jinc 3 without breaking into a sweat.