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post #1711 of 2043
I don't see any big difference between Quick Sync, DXVA2 (copy-back) and DXVA2 (native). What contents do you see the problem of deinterlacing off? I often see problems when playing back SD/DVD with QS, so I disabled it for SD (in LAV Video Decoder configuration) so that avcodec is used for SD. QS and DXVA2 (copy-back) support intermediate filters between LAV Video Decoder and madVR (e.g. subtitle filters), and madVR's IVTC. DXVA2 (native) is often more power efficient with lower CPU usage.
Edited by renethx - 2/11/13 at 12:04pm
post #1712 of 2043
Where can I change these setting at?
post #1713 of 2043
Grrrrrrrr ... Just bought a ZOTAC GT640 ... did not realize it would have a Mini HDMI connector... imagine that... I have no Mini HDMI - TO HDMI cables...
post #1714 of 2043
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I don't see any big difference between Quick Sync, DXVA2 (copy-back) and DXVA2 (native). What contents do you see the problem of deinterlacing off? I often see problems when playing back SD/DVD with QS, so I disabled it for SD (in LAV Video Decoder configuration) so that avcodec is used for SD. QS and DXVA2 (copy-back) support intermediate filters between LAV Video Decoder and madVR (e.g. subtitle filters), and madVR's IVTC. DXVA2 (native) is often more power efficient with lower CPU usage.
Yes, this was playing a DVD.
post #1715 of 2043
OK, finally got windows to let me change MadVR settings... (Wouldn't let me) is there any thing else I can do? I have 0 dropped frames, would Jink 8 be better?
post #1716 of 2043
I think it has been stated that there is little improvement in going from jinc3 to jinc4 for image upscaling and no reason to go higher. Improvement will be far more apparent on sd material like DVDs than on blu-ray.
post #1717 of 2043
Jinc8 actually hurts quality because it has an extremely high amount of ringing, and even with the Anti-Ringing option, it'll leave image artifacts because of this.
post #1718 of 2043
I fixed the PCM problem, kinda. It now says PCM on my amp but it plays at such a low volume.

Anyone take a guess at why?
post #1719 of 2043
So I use Jinc 4?
post #1720 of 2043
And do I want "Scale in linear light"?
post #1721 of 2043
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Originally Posted by AnthonyB View Post

I fixed the PCM problem, kinda. It now says PCM on my amp but it plays at such a low volume.

Anyone take a guess at why?

Try WASAPI exclusive mode (by ReClock or JRiver MC).
post #1722 of 2043
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

So I use Jinc 4?

Even Jinc4+AR may cause undesirable ringing. Jinc3+AR is the best choice.
post #1723 of 2043
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

And do I want "Scale in linear light"?

Only for image downscaling. It works negatively with image upscaling. Practically Catmull-Rom+AR+LL in image downscalng is the only choice if you ever turn on LL. (Of course you won't use image downscaling in full screen mode unless your display is either 1366x768 or 1280x720, or you play 4K videos.)
Edited by renethx - 2/12/13 at 6:16am
post #1724 of 2043
thanks, I'll work on it at home
post #1725 of 2043
Okay, so how would I set up reclock now?
post #1726 of 2043
I installed KCP, works great! biggrin.gif
post #1727 of 2043
I tested Jinc 3+AR vs. Jinc 4+AR last night and I agree with Renethx. Jinc 3+AR is better.
post #1728 of 2043
Any good directions to set up reclock?
post #1729 of 2043
Any good directions to set up reclock?
post #1730 of 2043
post #1731 of 2043
Should I just get DDR3-2133? It is about the same price.
post #1732 of 2043
ReClock's original purpose is adjust audio clock and media playback rate to video clock so that media plays back without dropped frame and audio in sync with video. ReClock is also often used to "bitstream" PCM audio via WASAPI exclusive mode (that function was added later by James at Slysoft). Configuration is a little bit complicated because we disable the original purpose of ReClock completely. I wish there is a simple audio renderer that supports switching between WASAPI exclusive and shared modes (like JRiver MC's). Initial configuration:



+ Audio Interfaces to use for
- PCM: WASAPI Exclusive. This is to avoid resampling PCM by Windows Audio Engine.

+ PCM Output
- Sampling rate: Same as input. Don't let ReClock resample the incoming audio.
- Format: 24 bit int padded to 32 (usually 24 bit is not supported by any of AMD, NVIDIA, Intel HDMI audio drivers).
- 16 bit integer for 16 bit sources: checked. This is not important, but...

+ Bitstream
- Accept bitstream formats: checked. Otherwise Reclock won't pass compressed audio bitstreams.
- Disable media speed correction with bitstream audio: checked. Avoid frame drops in bitstream audio. (As media adaptation is disabled in the next step, this is redundant.)

Now play a movie with LPCM audio track and click the ReClock icon in the task tray.



+ Clock correction
- Slave reference clock to audio: checked. Then "Audio correction" and "System clock correction" will be +0 Hz.

+ Media adaptation
- Speed: Original speed
- Locked: checked

So media will be played back at the original speed. Note in "Renderer infos",

- WASAPI excl.: means that Windows Audio Engine is bypassed.
- bit exact: means that ReClock does not resample audio.

When you play a movie with compressed audio track,



where you don't have to do anything.
Edited by renethx - 3/25/13 at 9:00pm
post #1733 of 2043
Wow, thanks!
post #1734 of 2043
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Originally Posted by AnthonyB View Post

Should I just get DDR3-2133? It is about the same price.

Yes, no need to stay with slower memory.
post #1735 of 2043
Should I set up re clock or just use kcp?
post #1736 of 2043
Sorry about the basic question - but what is the best procedure to update MPC, LAV and MadVR? I am using a quite old version of them, but everything is working just fine and I don't want to end up with a broken solution.

Do I need to uninstall the old version? Or just run the install on top? Any specific order to uninstall/install? Do I need to reconfigure MPC, LAV, MadVr after?

Thanks
post #1737 of 2043
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

Should I set up re clock or just use kcp?

KCP codec pack is mainly aimed at anime fans, supporting 10bit video (better for uploading) with subtitles. Well, nothing is wrong with KCP itself. smile.gif If you want "PCM bitstreaming" (from movies with LPCM track and music), you will need ReClock besides KCP.
post #1738 of 2043
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

KCP codec pack is mainly aimed at anime fans, supporting 10bit video (better for uploading) with subtitles. Well, nothing is wrong with KCP itself. smile.gif If you want "PCM bitstreaming" (from movies with LPCM track and music), you will need ReClock besides KCP.
My Otaku life... tongue.gif So I'll set up reclock once I get back from school... wink.gif
post #1739 of 2043
Is the only downside to using reclock for its "original" purpose that I am getting "near perfect" LPCM passthrough instead of "bit-perfect? I am using MPC-HC + LAV + MadVR + reclock and am very happy with audio (LPCM) and video quality with zero dropped frames etc.

My only issue is that I have a noticeable video lag (lip sync) playing mkvs of 24p Blu Rays. I am running a gaming / htpc (GTX 580 and i7 2600K) over hdbaset cat5e cable to my Denon 4311->radiance mini->older 2009 Samsung LED LCD (UN46B8500).

Obviously that is a lot of steps / processing, and I was planning on attacking the lag issue tonight. Any ideas for first steps? Should I be thinking more about the back end (ie putting the TV in game mode) or are there settings I should be thinking about within LAV and MadVR?

Thanks so much for any input. I am obviously still new to all this and this thread reads like a roll call of users who I have relied upon over the past year to build my first pc and attempting to use it it to its fullest capabilies.
post #1740 of 2043
I know some people prefer perfect playback with resampled LPCM audio to HD audio / bit-perfect LPCM bitstreaming.

There are potentially several causes of the lip sync issue. Somebody says reduce Sound pre-buffer duration in ReClock. Maybe worth trying...
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