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post #1861 of 2899
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I use madVR's SMFRC for 25p content on a 24/60/120 Hz TV. It works great for this application.

The smooth motion feature of MadVR does nothing to help the audio pitch when watching 25p content on a 60hz screen, the audio is basically sped up. With Reclock and 25p slowdown feature, it basically turns the 25p audio stream into a 24p audio stream and as a result slows down the audio (then has to resample it).
post #1862 of 2899
Thread Starter 
yea, iirc, that is the default behavior of reclock. I think it is based on the assumption that all 25 fps video is really just sped up 24 fps video.
post #1863 of 2899
I don't really notice the pitch change. Not that it isn't there because it has to be but I don't notice it.
post #1864 of 2899
I just followed the guide posted by OP... but I'm not sure if I did it correctly.

Screenshot above is what I get when playing MKV with Dolby Digital audio.


Screenshot above is what I get when playing MKV with DTS audio.

Why is it different? Why is it showing MPC Audio decoder for movies with DTS? If madVR is decoding the video, why is it showing MPC Video decoder?

Below is my filter settings in MPC-HC



I've also copied "dtsdecoderdll.dll" from Arcsoft folder and pasted it into "C:\Program Files\LAV Filters\x86"

EDIT: OK problem fixed by setting the 3 filters to PREFER instead of SET MERIT. Hope it's correct this time.

Edited by Skylinestar - 5/5/13 at 12:11am
post #1865 of 2899
Skylinestar,
It seems you haven't implemented the first steps outlined on in the first post of this thread (before the first screen shot) - The audio renderer should be set to Reclock (under Options-Payback-Output-Audio Renderer)
post #1866 of 2899
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Originally Posted by Eiffel View Post

Skylinestar,
It seems you haven't implemented the first steps outlined on in the first post of this thread (before the first screen shot) - The audio renderer should be set to Reclock (under Options-Payback-Output-Audio Renderer)
I believe reclock wasn't mandatory in the first post last week. I didn't install reclock anyway.
post #1867 of 2899
This guide was modified two days ago so it is different than it was last week. If you are using LAV audio you need to make sure the dts check boxes are checked in the LAV audio settings so it LAV will be used as the audio renderer.
post #1868 of 2899
Rene,

Specs: Quick Intel 3000 (i3-2105 GPU OC'd to 1600mhz + 8GB 2133 DDR3 Ram).

From your posts above, it seems like the DXVA2 madVR scaling options are about the same as what I would use anyway (Laczos3+AR, CR+AR-LL) but with much better performance.

However, if I select Quicksync (as opposed to DXVA2-CB) in Lav video, for SD films (notably film DVDs ripped to MKV), i get some weird behavior with the image jumping up and down most visible at the edges and lots of dropped/repeated frames. I think it must have something to do with the Quicksync deinterlacing because the problem goes away if I force film in madVR or if I select YADIF software deinterlacing in LAV. Anyway, I'm happy using DXVA-CB in LAV, but will that still use the good Quicksync scaling when i select DXVA2 in the scaling options in madVR?

Hope that Q makes sense!
post #1869 of 2899
Thread Starter 
i think i know the problem. when you deinterlace, sometimes the fps gets doubled. With double the fps, you have to render twice as fast.
There is an option in madvr's trade quality for performance section to always use half frame rate for deinterlacing.

the quicksync decoder in lav video doesn't deinterlace afaik, it just sends it to madvr to get deinterlaced, so you should be able to continue to use it.
post #1870 of 2899
If DXVA deinterlacing does not work correctly for a telecined film (deinterlacing is applied instead of inverse telecine), then a quick fix is add the tag "deint=Film" (without quotes) in the file name. Another option is using ffdshow Video Decoder that applies inverse telecine at the stage of decoding.
post #1871 of 2899
Thanks for the reply!

I'm happy to do that.

To ask my question a little bit more straightforwardly, though:

Will I get the same (quality) results using the DXVA2 option for scaling in madVR no matter what HW acceleration decoder I use in LAV (Quicksync vs. DXVA (copy back))?
post #1872 of 2899
Hi, I'd like to find out if there is a way to, and if so what it is, to make a playlist of video files and specify in that playlist what audio (english, Japanese, German,etc...), subtitile (english *signs only*, English *Full out*, English *Commentary*, Japanese *signs only*, etc...), or video (Censored, Uncensored, mockery, etc...) files to use? or is my only option the integrated smart subtitle option thing? I'd like to have full customability over the files so I can lay back and watch my videos without having to keep pressing a bunch of hotkeys with every new file.

Setup:
Win 7 x64
Latest CCCP with it's packaged MPC-HC 1.6.7.7091
Files: Usually .mkv, but just about everything is used.

Thanks in advance for your time and any help you can provide to me, I tried google searches but only found crap regarding playlist.com which for one isn't what I wwas looking for and 2 I don't even use.
post #1873 of 2899
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Originally Posted by duskdrums View Post

Will I get the same (quality) results using the DXVA2 option for scaling in madVR no matter what HW acceleration decoder I use in LAV (Quicksync vs. DXVA (copy back))?

In general it is irrelevant to PQ what video decoder you use.
post #1874 of 2899
As it is the renderer that we see on the screen.
post #1875 of 2899
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AceBoy2786 View Post

Hi, I'd like to find out if there is a way to, and if so what it is, to make a playlist of video files and specify in that playlist what audio (english, Japanese, German,etc...), subtitile (english *signs only*, English *Full out*, English *Commentary*, Japanese *signs only*, etc...), or video (Censored, Uncensored, mockery, etc...) files to use? or is my only option the integrated smart subtitle option thing? I'd like to have full customability over the files so I can lay back and watch my videos without having to keep pressing a bunch of hotkeys with every new file.

so, lav splitter can set an audio preference, so you get to always hear a certain audio language if present. It can also set subtitles relative to the audio language, or just a straightforward subtitle preference if you prefer.
These settings can be accessed through lav splitter's options.

It has no options for video or options to distinguish between tracks of the same language afaik.
post #1876 of 2899
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

so, lav splitter can set an audio preference, so you get to always hear a certain audio language if present. It can also set subtitles relative to the audio language, or just a straightforward subtitle preference if you prefer.
These settings can be accessed through lav splitter's options.

It has no options for video or options to distinguish between tracks of the same language afaik.

I've looked through them and all I see is to specify a language (either audio or subtitle) using 3-character codes (eng, ger, etc...), however, if the file has 2 of the same language (ex: Full English Subtitles, Signs/Intro only English subtitles) then how would the program know which to pick? What I am trying to find out is if I can make a .pls file with all the videos and in that playlist specify (AudioTrack=1, SubtitleTrack=3, VideoTrack=1) or something along those lines for each file or as a whole for the whole playlist. If your not sure or know of another place that may be able to help me with this I'd be glad to hear about it.

Thanks
post #1877 of 2899
Anyone having this issue? I play an MKV movie...when the movie ends, MPC-HC stops the movie as usual (it's actually pause if you look at the button). Upon clicking PLAY again, I get a popup "Please wait a moment", followed by madVR popup "An error occurred in madVR". For m2ts, flv and mp4, I got the popup "The program has stopped working" (like a usual app crash).

What's wrong?
post #1878 of 2899
Quote:
Originally Posted by AceBoy2786 View Post

I've looked through them and all I see is to specify a language (either audio or subtitle) using 3-character codes (eng, ger, etc...), however, if the file has 2 of the same language (ex: Full English Subtitles, Signs/Intro only English subtitles) then how would the program know which to pick?

Thanks

You can do it for subtitles in an mkv by using the "default' and/or forced flags plus the advanced LAV splitter subtitle selection options. You set the default flag to true for the track that should have preference and then you define an advanced selection profile that gives priority to tracks in your preferred language with the "default" flag set.

Unfortunately LAV does provide the same strategy for audio tracks because you can't specify the language order for audio in the advanced string. However it does have it's own internal preference order for multiple audio tracks. It will attempt to choose the track that matches your preferred language with the "best" sound quality. So DTS-HD or TrueHD before AC3 or DTS core, etc. so that may be enough for you. And, IIRC a recent version update in LAV also allowed the "default" flag to override this behavior entirely so marking any track as "Default" in your preferred language will always cause it to be selected. You can also use a trick and mark your preferred audio track with the 3-letter code for the correct audio and then set others that should not be selected as a different language code. I have used "und" for this on occasion.
Edited by glorpsd - 5/8/13 at 11:16am
post #1879 of 2899
I followed the updated guide after installing Windows 8 on my HTPC, and ReClock doesn't like my video card.

It gave me a warning that my video card is not supported.

Should I uninstall it? If I do, what should I choose as the audio renderer under MPC-HC?

Mr Zoid
post #1880 of 2899
Thread Starter 
what graphics card do you have, and how many speakers do you have-2.0, 5.1,etc?
are you using the mixer in lav audio?
post #1881 of 2899
A GeForce 650 Ti (no boost).

I have the LAV audio mixer installed, but I'm pretty much bitstreaming only. I have a few PCM titles, but few and far between.

Mr Zoid
post #1882 of 2899
Thread Starter 
wait, what is the warning you are getting?
post #1883 of 2899
I'll see if I can get a screenshot of it. I'm applying some patches right now but will be finished in a few minutes.

Mr Zoid
post #1884 of 2899
Well... I can't get it to repeat. And HD Audio files play.

HOWEVER, and this is probably not tied to ReClock, Windows Media Center audio is screwed up.

If I try to set my speaker configuration to 5.1, the test sounds goes into a loop from the left speaker.

If I reboot and try to play a WTV file the audio just repeats.

Grr... I might just reformat and go back to 7.

Mr Zoid
post #1885 of 2899
Thread Starter 
is reclock being used with windows media center? have you tried opening the wtv files in mpc hc and seeing how they play there?
post #1886 of 2899
I found a solution only for the MC issue.

I also got the dreaded "files required for playback" message when trying to play a recording.

Setting the speaker configuration in Windows to stereo and 5.1 in Media Center alleviated the issue.

Mr Zoid
post #1887 of 2899
That has been a long reported solution but if you have it set up correctly, you don't have to do this. How did you install LAV? People complain a lot about codec packs but the Shark007 pack will properly set things for you.
post #1888 of 2899
I installed using the installers.

I had this same exact setup minus reclock prior to this install of Win 8 and MPC-HC worked just fine.

I uninstalled ReClock and set the audio output to the correct source in MPC-HC. Everything works fine now.

Mr Zoid.
post #1889 of 2899
Thread Starter 
you can set reclock to never load for certain applications under configure reclock>advanced settings, at the bottom.
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 5/9/13 at 6:16am
post #1890 of 2899
I know a lot of people love to use reclock but I still haven't found a compelling reason to use it. Most all the time I play through hours of rips with no audio issues. Once in a blue moon I do notice an audio skip but it is so infrequent I wonder if it is in the source and if reclock will really fix it. Am I missing something?
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