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post #1891 of 2908
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I know a lot of people love to use reclock but I still haven't found a compelling reason to use it. Most all the time I play through hours of rips with no audio issues. Once in a blue moon I do notice an audio skip but it is so infrequent I wonder if it is in the source and if reclock will really fix it. Am I missing something?

The only audio issue I've ever had is the time for handshake between the HTPC and my AV receiver, but I'm pretty sure that's the fault of my AV receiver.

Mr Zoid
post #1892 of 2908
Thread Starter 
Well, I'm just using reclock to bypass the windows mixer with wasapi exclusive mode.
This way, when you play some non-bitstreamable audio (mp3,aac, flac, etc), the correct number of channels gets sent to your receiver.
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 5/9/13 at 7:05am
post #1893 of 2908
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

Anyone having this issue? I play an MKV movie...when the movie ends, MPC-HC stops the movie as usual (it's actually pause if you look at the button). Upon clicking PLAY again, I get a popup "Please wait a moment", followed by madVR popup "An error occurred in madVR". For m2ts, flv and mp4, I got the popup "The program has stopped working" (like a usual app crash).

What's wrong?
Anyone?
post #1894 of 2908
Thread Starter 
maybe it's a bug with one of the madvr features, like smooth motion?

also, I just made a minor change to the guide. I added a step to disable the internal audio switcher (options>audio switcher).
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 5/10/13 at 1:09pm
post #1895 of 2908
Hi,

I have recently had to format my PC so have reinstalled everything and re ran through this guide.

The image quality is superb now with Jinc smile.gif However my forced subtitles are a little less ideal.

I run the advanced mode as described in the 1st post and this works great if the subtitle track has been flagged up as English. However a lot of my rips I have downloaded a forced subtitle txt file and used mkvmerge to put this into my films mkv, marking it as default and as forced (I never manually overrode the language though which defaulted to und (Unidentified)).

This used to work on my old version but now it doesn't. The advanced code as I understand it is eng:eng|f - play English forced subtitles when audio track is English *:eng - play English subtitles if the main audio track is not English and eng:off don't play any subtitles if the audio is English (unless its forced).

Does anyone have a new command I could try so that it will pick up unidentified language forced subtitles as well?

Cheers in advance

EDIT: solution found smile.gif 'eng:eng|f;eng:und|f;eng:off;*:eng'

I was originally putting the bold section at the end, incorrectly as the other options overrode it. Now I have moved it it works like a charm smile.gif
post #1896 of 2908
Thanks for the awesome guide. One question, in Reclock config, part 2, I can't select any options there, everything is greyed out. Everything seems to work great anyways, so is that part essential? using latest ReClock, from the link provided in the guide.
post #1897 of 2908
Thread Starter 
temporarily disable bitstreaming in lav audio and then try to access it.
post #1898 of 2908
I have a question regarding image/video quality produced by a HTPC (with MPC-HC + MadVR + LAV filters) vs a typical media player like Dune HD player. Which will provide better image quality?
Most of my movies are 720p...a few are 1080p. Will the post processing by the HTPC outperform a typical media player?
post #1899 of 2908
Yes.
post #1900 of 2908
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

temporarily disable bitstreaming in lav audio and then try to access it.

Thanks it worked, I guess I didnt do the steps in the correct order :-)

I left "Slave reference clock to audio (debugging only)" off though, since when I have it enabled I get frame drops and clock deviation in the madVR OSD is much higher.

Why do you recomment enabling this? Will audio sync drift if I leave it off?
post #1901 of 2908
Thread Starter 
well, i leave it off to keep it consistent whether you are bitstreaming or not. When you are bitstreaming, the system clock correction won't work.
This can cause judder in theory, but I think this type of judder isn't that big of a deal.

If you are not gonna be bitstreaming, it is best to largely leave reclock at the defaults actually, except for choosing wasapi and setting the 24 bit padded to 32 bit depth, and best sinc interpolation for sampling quality. Also, remember you need the arcsoft dll to decode dts-hd to pcm.
post #1902 of 2908
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I'm very excited about the development of the kawaii codec pack, from http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack .
I'm thinking about maybe incorporating it into the guide actually in the future, to replace a lot of the basic steps and speed up the process basically.

atm, im wondering if it's kind of awkward to use a codec pack in a guide like this, and if people would actually prefer doing everything manually.
what do you guys think?
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 5/19/13 at 7:10pm
post #1903 of 2908
Looks like it is pretty light weight itself.
post #1904 of 2908
@MlNDBOMB
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atm, im wondering if it's kind of awkward to use a codec pack in a guide like this, and if people would actually prefer doing everything manually.
what do you guys think?

Nothing wrong with adding information about this in your guide, but I and other users probably like the manual aspect of just doing things yourself and installing and having control over everything. Ultimately it's your decision as you are the one that made this guide.
Edited by fairchild99 - 5/19/13 at 9:19pm
post #1905 of 2908
Does anyone know if MPC or any other player supports Resume Playback for playlists? I know it supports it for individual files and DVD's but it doesn't seem to work for playlists.
Something like: mpc-hc.exe "C:\Aladdin Playlist.mpcpl" \play
This would ideally resume at the last file and position.
post #1906 of 2908
SMplayer seems to come close. It remembers the time position where you left off on the files you open but it still goes back to the beginning of the playlist. Looks like I wasn't not the only one looking for this feature.
post #1907 of 2908
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Originally Posted by bimmerfreak0 View Post

Ok...what if...just what if I'm looking only to change the audio decoding. Right now I'm using MPC-HC on it's own (no separate filters like SHARK or FFD Show installed). I need to decode internally and send all audio to my receiver in LPCM...my receiver can only take DTS and DD (normal versions) in Bitstream.


I only have a HDMI 1.2 receiver...so I need to send the HD audio at LPCM...Can I just add the LAV audio decoder x64 and shove in the DTS decoder from Arcsoft so that I can decode TrueHD, DTS-HD, DTS-MA and DD+???


Can you show me the configuration menu in the correct settings?


asfar as i know, only way to decode dts hdma is use arcsoft decoder.dll file or use TMT5 ..because there is no open source decoder for dts HDMA mad.gif ...

lpcm also needs decoding and it should be done in pc using software
post #1908 of 2908
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Yes.


how can u be so sure...i think both are equal...dune hd or pop corn hour a 400 etc use good quality chips ..
post #1909 of 2908
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Originally Posted by bimmerfreak0 View Post

What do you do if you are running Windows X64 and MPC-HCx64???


It looks like they have 64 bit installer and drivers...but I'm just wondering...


AMD X4 945

ATI 4650 512mb

4gb 1333 memory

6tb HDD's


hi...
i have read the mpc advanced thread...some doubts pls help me....can we use the lav filter , reclock, madvr ,etc in KM player or VLC or XBMC ...it means will the above setup work with other media players???
post #1910 of 2908
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Originally Posted by naseef123 View Post

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Yes.

how can u be so sure...i think both are equal...dune hd or pop corn hour a 400 etc use good quality chips ..

There is no commercial chip that runs a scaling algorithm equivalent to Jinc+AR (afaik). Madshi's AR and SMFRC are distinguishing features.
post #1911 of 2908
how can i make sure that my mpc hc is decoding dts HDMA ...
i have mpc hc..installed lav fiter and auio decoder...but didt have arcsoft dll file...mpc is showing dtshdma 5.1 for m2ts files in filter...but actually the file is 7.1 channel..any idea???

i wanna know whther mpc is decoding correctly.. i hav seen an screen short somewhere in avs that showing 8 channel bar grapgh in mpc hc..plz help
post #1912 of 2908
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

There is no commercial chip that runs a scaling algorithm equivalent to Jinc+AR (afaik). Madshi's AR and SMFRC are distinguishing features.

..thanks..is the difference is visible or i mean significant on a 55 plasma screen...
and what about the quality offered by bluray players ..( bluray player is playing the same file in usb)???..

i hope AR is audio render?? i dindt get Madshi's AR and SMFRC
post #1913 of 2908
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Originally Posted by naseef123 View Post

hi...
i have read the mpc advanced thread...some doubts pls help me....can we use the lav filter , reclock, madvr ,etc in KM player or VLC or XBMC ...it means will the above setup work with other media players???

KMPlayer: Yes, VLC: No, XBMC: No.
post #1914 of 2908
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Originally Posted by naseef123 View Post

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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

There is no commercial chip that runs a scaling algorithm equivalent to Jinc+AR (afaik). Madshi's AR and SMFRC are distinguishing features.

..thanks..is the difference is visible or i mean significant on a 55 plasma screen...
and what about the quality offered by bluray players ..( bluray player is playing the same file in usb)???..

i hope AR is audio render?? i dindt get Madshi's AR and SMFRC

I don't know if you can see a difference. Compare and decide yourself. smile.gif

AR = anti-ringing.
post #1915 of 2908
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

well, i leave it off to keep it consistent whether you are bitstreaming or not. When you are bitstreaming, the system clock correction won't work.
This can cause judder in theory, but I think this type of judder isn't that big of a deal.

If you are not gonna be bitstreaming, it is best to largely leave reclock at the defaults actually, except for choosing wasapi and setting the 24 bit padded to 32 bit depth, and best sinc interpolation for sampling quality. Also, remember you need the arcsoft dll to decode dts-hd to pcm.

i havent installed arcsoft decoder.dll...but have mpc hc and lav filter and decoder...but still when i play dts hdma files (m2ts) downloaded from demoworld.eu when i select filter i can see lav shows dts hdma ??...

so mpc is not decoding it??
also i am not also installed reclock..because its necessary if the file is more than 48/16bits right??
post #1916 of 2908
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

KMPlayer: Yes, VLC: No, XBMC: No.

thanks...and so i need LAV filter and decoder...arcsoft.dll ..i hope madvr is a video filter..even if i dont use madvr nothing goes wrong right??

also i dont need reclock if i am bitsreaming to avr ...but its needed for decoding in pc ..or sending as LPCM...am i getting correct??
post #1917 of 2908
madVR is a video renderer. You can use EVR instead.

If you are going to decode every compressed audio format to LPCM, then you'd better use ReClock if you don't want the audio quality degraded by Windows Audio Engine.
post #1918 of 2908
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by naseef123 View Post

how can i make sure that my mpc hc is decoding dts HDMA ...
i have mpc hc..installed lav fiter and auio decoder...but didt have arcsoft dll file...mpc is showing dtshdma 5.1 for m2ts files in filter...but actually the file is 7.1 channel..any idea???

i wanna know whther mpc is decoding correctly.. i hav seen an screen short somewhere in avs that showing 8 channel bar grapgh in mpc hc..plz help

okay, to decode dts-hd you need that arcsoft dll. Just put it in the same directory as lavaudio.ax.
Then, when you are playing a video with dts, you can check by right clicking in the window, going to filters>lav audio>status.

It should say dts or dts-hd ma or something like this next to input codec. If it says dca, that means it is using the open source dts decoder, not arcsoft.
post #1919 of 2908
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

okay, to decode dts-hd you need that arcsoft dll. Just put it in the same directory as lavaudio.ax.
Then, when you are playing a video with dts, you can check by right clicking in the window, going to filters>lav audio>status.

It should say dts or dts-hd ma or something like this next to input codec. If it says dca, that means it is using the open source dts decoder, not arcsoft.


thanx alot...atlast i ahve done all the set up..
1. installed mpc-hc , then LAV filter and decoder ,then installed reclock.. now read this..

my desktop has onboard 6 chanel audio..no sound card ..

when i play dolby true HD in mpc .. it works fine and i can see all seven chanels in status..but when i setup reclock to WASPI Exclusive mode and the setup as u shown..then when i play true HD file there is no audio from mpc .. Reclock shows a message that " The audio format is not supported by the hedware/driver 48000 samples/sec , 32bit IEEE float, 6 channels"..the message is by reclock initialise by wasapi client.. what is the problem..????

when i reconfigure reclock , PCM to directsound(default) from WSAPI ..the sound is coming...strange??..
also sound is available when i use mixing in lav audio decoder... but i can play 2 channel and normal dolby digital or dts in WASAPI exclusive mode no problem...
the message comes only when i use WASAPI exclusive mode in reclock and play True HD /HDMA files..
post #1920 of 2908
Thread Starter 
when you configure reclock, select 24 bit int padded to 32 for format.
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