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post #2131 of 2891
Yes, you can play BD optical disc with AnyDVD HD running with MPC-HC (you can't play it without AnyDVD HD). It is another matter if the correct playlist is picked up, however.
post #2132 of 2891
For 120 Euro, you can get a stand alone Blu-ray player too.
post #2133 of 2891
Reviewed 100s of posts but couldn't find my specific issues. Thanks in advance for any ideas.

2 issues:

1. Unless I have bitstreaming enabled in lav, the DD, DTS, or DTS-MA lights do not turn on on my receiver. I am passing the signal through HDMI to my receiver.

2. If I load a file encoded with DTS-ES MPC errors out saying there is not enough channels. With bitstreaming enabled this loads the file just fine.

Everything else works fine including reclock properly changing the refresh rate. I have verified all settings are correct according to the guide. My system specs are below:

Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR705

Processor: Core i5 (Sandy Bridge)
Motherboard: Intel DH67BL
Video: Using onboard hdmi on motherboard (Intel HD2000)
Audio: HDMI
Speakers: 5.1 Klipsch
post #2134 of 2891
Thread Starter 
1. Yea, that will happen if you aren't bitstreaming, since lav audio is now decoding instead of the receiver. You can see the equivalent of the DD,DTS lights in lav audio>status> input codecs.
2. you are using dtsdecoderdll.dll, right? Idk, maybe you have to mix to 5.1 in lav audio, perhaps 6.1 pcm isn't supported. (though 7.1 and 5.1 should be)
post #2135 of 2891
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

1. Yea, that will happen if you aren't bitstreaming, since lav audio is now decoding instead of the receiver. You can see the equivalent of the DD,DTS lights in lav audio>status> input codecs.
2. you are using dtsdecoderdll.dll, right? Idk, maybe you have to mix to 5.1 in lav audio, perhaps 6.1 pcm isn't supported. (though 7.1 and 5.1 should be)

1. Ok very good. Thanks

2. Yup I'm using the latest dtsdecoderdll.dll. I do have the mixers disabled since I do not want to use them but it looks like I may have to to avoid this error.
post #2136 of 2891
Is this still considered the best setup to watch movies on my TV, from my PC?
post #2137 of 2891
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Originally Posted by biglen View Post

Is this still considered the best setup to watch movies on my TV, from my PC?

Define "the best way"!

For me it is but for others it is XBMC or even the native WMC player.
post #2138 of 2891
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Define "the best way"!

For me it is but for others it is XBMC or even the native WMC player.

Best quality, no issues?
post #2139 of 2891
I have no issues and the PQ and AQ is first rate. I don't use the reclock portion of this guide BTW as I bitstream to my AVR-2312ci which does a good job of keeping things in sync. I don't notice any problems at all.
post #2140 of 2891
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I have no issues and the PQ and AQ is first rate. I don't use the reclock portion of this guide BTW as I bitstream to my AVR-2312ci which does a good job of keeping things in sync. I don't notice any problems at all.

So you are sending the raw signal to your receiver and letting that decode your audio, right? Why do so many members here recommend to PCM to the receiver?
post #2141 of 2891
Reclock only works on PCM as it is not possible to resync the audio when it is compressed. I find that the LipSync feature in my Denon does just fine with matching the audio and video.
post #2142 of 2891
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Reclock only works on PCM as it is not possible to resync the audio when it is compressed. I find that the LipSync feature in my Denon does just fine with matching the audio and video.

I have the Denon AVR 890. I don't think I have the LipSync feature. If that's the case, I should probably stick to PCM?
post #2143 of 2891
My 889 has it. The 890 does too.

Take a look at page 30 of the manual.
post #2144 of 2891
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

My 889 has it. The 890 does too.

Take a look at page 30 of the manual.

Ha, you learn something new every day. How would I set my pc to bitstream? I set everything up like the OP posted. I tried putting a check mark in all the bitstreaming formats in LAV audio, but the receiver still says multi ch on the front, and I'm not getting sound.
post #2145 of 2891
You need to update your divers. What is your CPU and GPU?
post #2146 of 2891
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

You need to update your divers. What is your CPU and GPU?

CPU: Intel Core i3 530 @ 2.93GHz

GPU: ASUS VE276 (1920x1080@60Hz)Intel(R) HD Graphics

I don't think it's the drivers. When I uncheck all the bitstream formats, then I get sound, which is PCM, because my receiver says Multi Ch In. Is there a setting that switches the setup to bitstream?
post #2147 of 2891
So when you go to Control Panel > Sound the HD Audio formats show there? If this I the case it is a merit setting in MPC-HC most likely. You'll need to make sure that only LAV is selected as the audio renderer in MPC-HC most likely.
post #2148 of 2891
Thread Starter 
i agree with sammy that an intel graphics driver update will probably help you in this case.

if you aren't going to be bitstreaming, you can use reclock, which I consider like an alternative to bitstreaming.
post #2149 of 2891
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

i agree with sammy that an intel graphics driver update will probably help you in this case.

if you aren't going to be bitstreaming, you can use reclock, which I consider like an alternative to bitstreaming.

I use reclock on my desktop which runs 5.1 off analog headphone plugs with good success, but I don't use it on my HTPC connected to my AVR via HDMI. I never seem to get the audio right.
post #2150 of 2891
Okay, let me explain what's going on. I used the OP's guide to set everything up, but didn't install reclock. I have an HDMI cable running from my pc, to my Denon. I right click on my desktop, choose screen resolution, and then under "multiple displays", I choose "extend these displays". I double click on an MKV, and drag the movie onto my tv screen. The front of my receiver says "Multi Ch In", which tells me it's PCM being sent to the receiver. When I go to Control Panel/ Sound, my Denon shows up in there. Last night, when I tried to bitstream, I opened the LAV audio settings, and put a check mark in all the audio formats in the bitstreaming section. Most of my MKV's bitstreamed fine, and showed the audio format on the front of the receiver, but some of them didn't play any audio. The ones that didn't play audio, didn't have the LAV audio icon in the system tray. All the MKV's that played fine, had the LAV audio icon pop up in the system tray when I started the movie.
post #2151 of 2891
Thread Starter 
so it sounds like lav audio isnt being used for some reason.
you can check what filters are in use by right clicking in the player and going to filters

make sure lav audio is set to prefer in external filters, and you can block any unwanted splitters there as well that may be causing problems.
post #2152 of 2891
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

so it sounds like lav audio isnt being used for some reason.
you can check what filters are in use by right clicking in the player and going to filters

make sure lav audio is set to prefer in external filters, and you can block any unwanted splitters there as well that may be causing problems.


Everything looks good to me, but this is PCM. If I want to switch to bitstreaming, what would I do? Do I open LAV audio, and just put check marks in all the bitstreaming audio formats?









UPDATE: I just noticed something with an MKV that won't play audio when I try to bitstream. For some reason, Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder takes the place of LAV audio decoder. Why would this happen?The MKV has ac3 audio, but I tried another MKV with ac3 audio, and that one plays fine, and uses LAV audio.


Edited by biglen - 7/23/13 at 10:09am
post #2153 of 2891
HI All,

I followed the step by step instructions

My setup is

1. HP N40L Micro server
2. AMD Radion 6450 graphics card (sapphire)
3. AV receiver Yamaha RX-V671 in a 7.1 setup

ONLY MPC-HC, LAV, MADVR installed



My problem is whenever I play DTS-HD MA files the receiver is showing only DTS


Please help
post #2154 of 2891
Thread Starter 
@biglen
yea, to bitstream, you check those boxes in lav audio. I think maybe because lav audio's bitstream is unsupported for some reason, that is causing the microsoft decoder to load.

@ichayan
make sure the files have dts-hd audio, and that you've checked dts-hd bitstreaing in lav audio, and lav audio is loading when you play the files (right click in the player, go to filters to see what is loaded).
Also, update your radeon drivers.
post #2155 of 2891
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@ichayan
make sure the files have dts-hd audio, and that you've checked dts-hd bitstreaing in lav audio, and lav audio is loading when you play the files (right click in the player, go to filters to see what is loaded).
Also, update your radeon drivers.

I have done so, while playing movie it s the LAV Splitter source which is active for both video and audio.
post #2156 of 2891
Thread Starter 
well, that is just a splitter, you should still make sure you see lav video and lav audio. As long as you have them set to prefer in external filters, they should show up.
post #2157 of 2891
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ell, that is just a splitter, you should still make sure you see lav video and lav audio. As long as you have them set to prefer in external filters, they should show up.
They are there in the filters list. I figured out the problem i think. The yamaha avr has many DSP settings when I put that on straight it is showing DTS-HD MA on the receiver. This is how it shows in the filters list, is it ok? Thank you.
post #2158 of 2891
Thread Starter 
yea, looks fine, and it seems you solved your problem as well.
post #2159 of 2891
Thread Starter 
So updated the guide with some interesting new stuff. I recommend now to use the mpc hc nightly builds that come with lav filters built in, and the use of xysubfilter, which should improve performance for anime basically. This didn't start out with the intent of being an anime playback guide, but it could now be able be used in that way as well.
Edited by MlNDBOMB - 7/26/13 at 5:45pm
post #2160 of 2891
I have LAV audio set to bitstream to my Denon receiver. I also have a set of speakers hooked up to my pc. Sometimes I just want to watch a movie through my pc speakers. The problem I'm having, is that I get no sound through my pc speakers when I have LAV audio set to bitstream. If I uncheck all the bitstream audio formats in LAV, then I get sound through the pc speakers. Is there a way to get sound through the pc speakers, and have the bitstream audio formats checked?
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