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post #2431 of 2897
BTW, and I don't know why, setting the TV to 48Hz for 23.976 fps content causes unbearable flicker.
post #2432 of 2897
I think 48Hz is more for 3D.

Edit: I have a 240Hz 2D LCD, so I am no expert in this area.
post #2433 of 2897
I see this sticky is quite old. Is using MadVR still recommended with the latest version of MPC-HC?
post #2434 of 2897
More than ever. MadVR is getting better, videocards are getting faster.
post #2435 of 2897
Not only that, the first few posts have been modified and edited as need be to keep the information up to date. That said, I've mot checked them recently but LAV is baked into MPC-HC.
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MPC-HC

OK, so based on the recommendations in the sticky: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1357375/advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide/2430

I configured MPC-HC to use MadVR instead of the defaults which have been working fine. Everything was great for one movie. Started a second movie and I was getting a jittery picture along with a bar that would slowly move down the screen. Above the bar the picture would clear up, below the bar the picture was jittery. As the bar would move off the bottom of the screen, it would be clear and normal...then the bar would start at the top of the screen again. This continued for maybe 10 minutes when both screens (primary monitor and the secondary TV where the movie was being displayed) displayed jibberish and the PC locked up.

The first movie that worked, was an avi file. The four that do not, including the one that locked up the player are mkv/mp4.

Any thoughts on what I have configured incorrectly?
post #2437 of 2897
Why not just post this in the sticky thread?

Take a look here as well.
post #2438 of 2897
I didn't think it mattered. And stickies are typically for questions/discussion about the topic, not config issues. But if it should be posted there instead, it can be moved.
post #2439 of 2897
MINDBOMB, who wrote the sticky, often chimes in with good answers about configuration issues and just about anything else.
post #2440 of 2897
So on the off chance that I might simply have a few bad files (just grasping at straws), I tried to play other known good files. None of them work.

Installed PotPlayer just to get media playability until I can figure out MPC-HC and that doesn't work either. Odd that MPC-HC would affect another player.

Uninstalled MPC-HC and all associated files, rebooted, reinstalled and configured a second time following the guide, mkv support still doesn't work.


I browsed through the Assassin guide, but it's geared towards using other software not mentioned in this guide and that I don't have/nor want to configure on this machine.
post #2441 of 2897
That's fine then.

Hard to believe that out of the hundreds of comments in that topic, and the number of people that apparently use MPC-HC, no one has had mkv playback issues when using the basic config in the sticky.
post #2442 of 2897
I configured MPC-HC to use MadVR instead of the defaults which have been working fine. Everything was great for one movie. Started a second movie and I was getting a jittery picture along with a bar that would slowly move down the screen. Above the bar the picture would clear up, below the bar the picture was jittery. As the bar would move off the bottom of the screen, it would be clear and normal...then the bar would start at the top of the screen again. This continued for maybe 10 minutes when both screens (primary monitor and the secondary TV where the movie was being displayed) displayed jibberish and the PC locked up.

The first movie that worked, was an avi file. The four that do not, including the one that locked up the player are mkv/mp4.

Any thoughts on what I have configured incorrectly?
post #2443 of 2897
The only time I had problems was when I was using EVR (CP) or PVR9 for my renderers. With madvr it has been smooth as silk.

You may want to look at this post which is a copy of another post made by renethx previously for the proper settings to use in madVR depending on what GPU you are using.

BTW, why would you not want to use Media Browser?
post #2444 of 2897
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Originally Posted by Krispy Kritter View Post

So on the off chance that I might simply have a few bad files (just grasping at straws), I tried to play other known good files. None of them work.

Installed PotPlayer just to get media playability until I can figure out MPC-HC and that doesn't work either. Odd that MPC-HC would affect another player.

Uninstalled MPC-HC and all associated files, rebooted, reinstalled and configured a second time following the guide, mkv support still doesn't work.


I browsed through the Assassin guide, but it's geared towards using other software not mentioned in this guide and that I don't have/nor want to configure on this machine.

Pot Player?
You may have created codec soup where the decoders aren't Registered or if they are they have the wrong merits set. You may need to roll back to an earlier time using system restore and start over.
post #2445 of 2897
I do plan on using MB, but on my HTPC, not on the now problem PC. Which is a 2nd desktop machine used for random work and media playback.

PotPlayer, which I have never had any issues with before, was a test after MPC-HC went south. And it now doesn't work either, so whatever is wrong, is a byproduct of MPC-HC and MadVR. So after installing, uninstalling, reinstalling and testing MPC-HC w/MadVR twice, and it not working, I tested with Pot Player.

I had no issues with the basic MPC-HC install, either playback or quality. But after reading how great MadVR works, and using a guide 2 years old, which should have all the bugs worked out, I figured I would give it a try. This is a fresh build with clean OS and software install. Everything was working fine and I should have just left it alone.
post #2446 of 2897
And because someone may ask, hardware specs:

Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
Intel i7-850
8GB RAM
AMD 5870 video card
post #2447 of 2897
AMD 5870 video card might have something to do with it. Check that post that I linked above for recommended cards to use with madVR.
post #2448 of 2897
Damn it. Now I HAVE to spend more money. ; )


Thanks, that was it.

Switching from MadVR or Enhanced to VMR 9 solved the problem. I also found that I can use MadVR but use my cpu for processing (ie: not DXVA) and that also works, but I get a flicker on my primary display. In any case, short term, it's back up and running. Now to find a replacement budget card for my 5800.

Actually, after looking over that graph again, it looks like the 6670 I pulled from that PC is actually the better choice. Amazing, especially if you saw the two cards side by side. I thought for sure the 5800 was the better card.
post #2449 of 2897
Thread Starter 
first, make sure you are using mpc hc 1.7, as opposed to something older.
other than that, you want to update your amd radeon drivers.

this sounds like a problem with hardware acceleration, so set lav video's hardware acceleration to none. (options>internal filters>video decoder)
post #2450 of 2897
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krispy Kritter View Post

Damn it. Now I HAVE to spend more money. ; )

you don't have to do anything, a 5870 is fine.
post #2451 of 2897
While were on the discussion of madVR, what is the setting for h/w acceleration with an AMD Radeon HD 7850? I was using CUVID but I think that works only with nVidia cards, right?
post #2452 of 2897
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krispy Kritter View Post

Damn it. Now I HAVE to spend more money. ; )

you don't have to do anything, a 5870 is fine.

Right, but you have to dial back the settings to the basic settings, right?
post #2453 of 2897
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Right, but you have to dial back the settings to the basic settings, right?

no, it should be able to handle pretty much everything.
post #2454 of 2897
Then something else is wrong with how Krispy Kritter has something set up..

BTW, I found the answer to my question and that is actually how I intuitively set it up.
Quote:
Video Decoding
- Go to options, internal filters, and click Video Decoder at the bottom.
- The different GPU decoding modes are listed under hardware decoding in the upper right. Select nvidia cuvid for an nvidia gpu, intel quicksync for an intel gpu, and dxva2 copyback for an amd gpu. The one you plan on using should say "available" to the right of it after it has been selected.
- If you feel that your cpu is up to the task, you can select none.
post #2455 of 2897
MPC-HC is the latest v1.7.0

AMD CCC is the latest (as of last Wednesday). CCC v13.9 / driver v13.152.1.8
post #2456 of 2897
Thread Starter 
it might be that the cards older than the radeon 6000 series can't do dxva copyback, just dxva native. Or the newer drivers just broke hardware acceleration on everything pre-6000 series.
at any rate, just stick with no hardware decode, it isn't really a big deal or worth going out of your way to try and fix if it is giving you issues.
post #2457 of 2897
I don't know if it matters and I haven't had time to test, but there are two DXVA options. DXVA2 (native) and DXVA2 (copy-back).

I was initially trying to use native.
post #2458 of 2897
Thread Starter 
if native doesn't work, the other one probably won't work cause it is essentially native plus other stuff. anyway, don't worry about it and stick with the none option and continue using madvr as your renderer.
post #2459 of 2897
Actually Native is more like Copy-Back plus other stuff. Copy-Back should work more reliably then Native in many scenarios.
post #2460 of 2897
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

Actually Native is more like Copy-Back plus other stuff. Copy-Back should work more reliably then Native in many scenarios.

Which one provides better PQ? Currently I am using copy back with an AMD HD 7850 card.
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