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post #1141 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

You should consider using an impendence matching speaker selector. That'll solve the impedence problem of connecting two speakers to the same terminals and give you the option of only having one of the two sets of speakers active.

I suspect that the RX-A1020, RX-A2020 and RX-A3020 will be announced some time around August. They've already shown up the CSA's certification list so they're definitely coming.

I've looked into those a little bit but before I went any further I was wondering if it was absolutely necessary or if the 2010 would be able to handle that load. Being the bed/bath zone it will not get played at extremely loud levels.

I was afraid I might hear August on the 2012 models. I'm remodeling my condo and should be moving in around the first week of June. I won't be able to go until August without a receiver but it would be nice to have airplay and whatever else is in the new models. I was kinda hoping for Spotify too.
post #1142 of 2855
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

Has anyone noticed that Yamaha just released their new 2012 mid-line receives which include AirPlay and some other features? Any idea when the 2012 Aventage receivers will be out?

Sept usually. They are supposed to have married hdmi as well and 4k support. To bad they arent updating ypao.
post #1143 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Sept usually. They are supposed to have married hdmi as well and 4k support. To bad they arent updating ypao.


married HDMI?
post #1144 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Detach50 View Post

married HDMI?

Matrixed... Stupid iPad correction.
post #1145 of 2855
Any NEO-X
post #1146 of 2855
So does anyone know if the 2010 will handle a 4ohm load on the Extra Speaker 1 or Extra Speaker 2 jacks? I want to hook up 4 8ohm speakers to one of those jacks.
post #1147 of 2855
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

So does anyone know if the 2010 will handle a 4ohm load on the Extra Speaker 1 or Extra Speaker 2 jacks? I want to hook up 4 8ohm speakers to one of those jacks.

I ran a pair of paradigm SM-370's (outdoor speakers) in for ohm mode on Extra Speaker 2 jacks for about a month but never in party mode or when the other zones were being used. Also I didn't drive them very hard. Did not want to risks damaging my 2010. I ended buying a Russound external amp (75W 2channel) for under $200 after a discount to drive them with no fear of damaging my 2010. Hope this helps.
post #1148 of 2855
Abstracted from a doc on the Yamaha website: FCC INFORMATION (for US customers) (link):
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YAMAHA

FCC INFORMATION (for US customers)

COMPLIANCE INFORMATION STATEMENT (DECLARATION OF CONFORMITY PROCEDURE)


Model Name:

RX-A3020/RX-A2020/RX-A1020/RX-A820/RX-A720/
RX-V3073/RX-V2073/RX-V1073/RX-V773/RX-V673/RX-V573/RX-V473/
HTR-7065/HTR-6065/HTR-5065/HTR-4065

2012 Yamaha Corporation


[Pretty much the 2012 model lines we had expected to see. ]
post #1149 of 2855
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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

Abstracted from a doc on the Yamaha website: FCC INFORMATION (for US customers) (link): [Pretty much the 2012 model lines we had expected to see. ]

Yep, a google search of "RX-A2020" brings up some german websites with additional information but you have to translate the page. It's interesting if you're into that kind of stuff.
post #1150 of 2855
I've found the best info coming from the Italy sites for the xx20 series.
post #1151 of 2855
Hi,

I wanna bi amp my 2010 to my wharfedales. What output on the 2010 should i use for treble and which one for bass?

Thanks a lot for your help!
post #1152 of 2855
The receiver doesn't have an active crossover so it sends the same signal to both sets of bi-amp speaker terminals. It doesn't matter which you use for treble or bass.
post #1153 of 2855
Ah ok, thanks for the help. So does it even make sense to setup a bi amping?
post #1154 of 2855
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Originally Posted by private Angus View Post

Ah ok, thanks for the help. So does it even make sense to setup a bi amping?

Nope, it's a waste of time, cable and amp channels. But, if you're curious,try it out.
post #1155 of 2855
Hey guys

So I've just purchased a rx a 2010 and boy it took me a few hours just to get it set up with cables and to cut a shelf out of the cabinet before I even got a chance to run the auto set up. So I jumped into the set up and i ran into the problem you guys have been having with crossovers and speaker size. I did the normal thing and change all to size small and the cross overs to 80hzs. From my limited experience I feel like the sub is performing under par so bumped up the volume to 0db . I guess I could try changing the phase. Also I'm using the ns 777 I was just looking to see if anyone else has these matched with the surrounds to there aventage receivers ???? Any opinions. Have a few days to decide if I wanna keep the reciever also and wanted to know if there would be an audible difference by choosing the 3010 ? Sorry about all the questions . First time poster
post #1156 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Jasoncharles View Post

Hey guys

So I've just purchased a rx a 2010 and boy it took me a few hours just to get it set up with cables and to cut a shelf out of the cabinet before I even got a chance to run the auto set up. So I jumped into the set up and i ran into the problem you guys have been having with crossovers and speaker size. I did the normal thing and change all to size small and the cross overs to 80hzs. From my limited experience I feel like the sub is performing under par so bumped up the volume to 0db . I guess I could try changing the phase. Also I'm using the ns 777 I was just looking to see if anyone else has these matched with the surrounds to there aventage receivers ???? Any opinions. Have a few days to decide if I wanna keep the reciever also and wanted to know if there would be an audible difference by choosing the 3010 ? Sorry about all the questions . First time poster

I have the 3010. Your experience sounds identical to mine including cutting the cabinet. Once you have this baby fully configured, you'll be surprised you ever thought of returning it.
post #1157 of 2855
What are you all putting these receivers in? I'm looking at AV furniture that won't break the bank and the depth is killing me. Looks like the 2010 is 18 3/8" deep and most of the furniture I'm looking at is around 16-18" deep. I'd obviously like to have about 20" to leave room for wires.
post #1158 of 2855
You don't really want to be putting your receiver in anything, it needs lots of space around it for ventalation, but of course that not often very practical. Officially Yamaha recommends a clearance of 30cm (12") at the top, and 20cm (8") at the back and sides, but you'll probably have to do with much less.

Make sure that the space you put it in is open both at the front and back. No doors at the front and with an open back depth becomes less of an issue. The cables and maybe even a bit of the receiver itself can hang out the back. You want air to be able to circulate in through the sides of the receiver up out the top and then up out into the room.
post #1159 of 2855
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

What are you all putting these receivers in? I'm looking at AV furniture that won't break the bank and the depth is killing me. Looks like the 2010 is 18 3/8" deep and most of the furniture I'm looking at is around 16-18" deep. I'd obviously like to have about 20" to leave room for wires.

Thats one of the reasons I got the A810.
post #1160 of 2855
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

What are you all putting these receivers in? I'm looking at AV furniture that won't break the bank and the depth is killing me. Looks like the 2010 is 18 3/8" deep and most of the furniture I'm looking at is around 16-18" deep. I'd obviously like to have about 20" to leave room for wires.

I'm building mine...

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post #1161 of 2855
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Originally Posted by cjhoward View Post

I have the 3010. Your experience sounds identical to mine including cutting the cabinet. Once you have this baby fully configured, you'll be surprised you ever thought of returning it.

Let me say cutting the cabinet was a frustrating ordeal but now it looks and fits the receiver brilliantly. I'm very happy with Yamaha I was just considering if it was worth the extra $300 to upgrade to the 3010. If there's any tips you guys have on getting the best out if these baby's I'm open ears as I'm new to the game . A very costly but stupiedly addicting game
post #1162 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Jasoncharles View Post

Let me say cutting the cabinet was a frustrating ordeal but now it looks and fits the receiver brilliantly. I'm very happy with Yamaha I was just considering if it was worth the extra $300 to upgrade to the 3010. If there's any tips you guys have on getting the best out if these baby's I'm open ears as I'm new to the game . A very costly but stupiedly addicting game

The 3010 is very nice, except the streaming Flac files from network( my NAS is using Twonky Media) keep cutting off.
I agree Don't mention, recommend or talk about Onkyo to me. You'll only be wasting your time!
post #1163 of 2855
It will be here Monday and I've been using B&K home theater receivers since their first AVR-202, some 16 years ago. There was dolby digital and DTS but no advance audio codecs like today. B&K always said what they made was upgradable, never obsolete, they lied, they lied, they never offered or sold upgrades, maybe once. There receivers had huge power supplies weighed in at about 55LBS usually sounded better, richer fuller than the competition, but they never offered anything but basic processing and then I at last had the AVR-507s2 model which was functionally better thantheir other ones. In the end their last offering the AVR-707 which finally added 6 hdmi inputs, from last I know never did anything but Dolby digital and dts, even through hdmi inputs.
In the end I decided to go back to my beginning and get Yamaha. In the 1970's I owned one of their CR-1020 (23" wide and very heavy) pretty much the best of it's day. Close to McIntosh in fact, but Yamaha is one of the premier masters of sound processing. They are the ones who put microphones in Giant cathedral and intimate supper clubs and managed to digitally create algorithms to duplicate all those environments. I guess they still kept 23 of them and I hope to hear some of your experiences as I officially join this forum by actually owning a Yamaha again. In the 70's Yamaha produced some famous stereo amps that were relatively compact and all black with a green square enormous power on button. They sounded really good and were the beginning of the high end even before audio research and their ilk. In the beginning the only thing that started the high end was you could use lamp cord as speaker cable and the amps never sounded harsh or discordant, and they should have. It was the beginning of what I called high ending, or making amps so unfaithful to the sound that went in, that they were dark, ominous sounding, something that Mcintosh is still doing, which is why, 5 years ago I went to look at buying their MHT-200 home theater receiver, it sounded so terrible, I left in a great hurry.
I am really hoping to hear good things about what I'm getting. I understand that the Yamaha will pass through all hdmi signals to components even while in the off mode, i'm hoping somebody can verify that, but hello to everyone on this forum.
post #1164 of 2855
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Originally Posted by keithhr View Post

It will be here Monday and I've been using B&K home theater receivers since their first AVR-202, some 16 years ago. There was dolby digital and DTS but no advance audio codecs like today. B&K always said what they made was upgradable, never obsolete, they lied, they lied, they never offered or sold upgrades, maybe once. There receivers had huge power supplies weighed in at about 55LBS usually sounded better, richer fuller than the competition, but they never offered anything but basic processing and then I at last had the AVR-507s2 model which was functionally better thantheir other ones. In the end their last offering the AVR-707 which finally added 6 hdmi inputs, from last I know never did anything but Dolby digital and dts, even through hdmi inputs.
In the end I decided to go back to my beginning and get Yamaha. In the 1970's I owned one of their CR-1020 (23" wide and very heavy) pretty much the best of it's day. Close to McIntosh in fact, but Yamaha is one of the premier masters of sound processing. They are the ones who put microphones in Giant cathedral and intimate supper clubs and managed to digitally create algorithms to duplicate all those environments. I guess they still kept 23 of them and I hope to hear some of your experiences as I officially join this forum by actually owning a Yamaha again. In the 70's Yamaha produced some famous stereo amps that were relatively compact and all black with a green square enormous power on button. They sounded really good and were the beginning of the high end even before audio research and their ilk. In the beginning the only thing that started the high end was you could use lamp cord as speaker cable and the amps never sounded harsh or discordant, and they should have. It was the beginning of what I called high ending, or making amps so unfaithful to the sound that went in, that they were dark, ominous sounding, something that Mcintosh is still doing, which is why, 5 years ago I went to look at buying their MHT-200 home theater receiver, it sounded so terrible, I left in a great hurry.
I am really hoping to hear good things about what I'm getting. I understand that the Yamaha will pass through all hdmi signals to components even while in the off mode, i'm hoping somebody can verify that, but hello to everyone on this forum.

Yes, they will pass hdmi through even while in standby.
post #1165 of 2855
I know, since I'm set up with 5.1, that I will start with that for set up. Any savvy suggestions for me that will make the experience better. Because B&K had limited set up options, a lot of cheesy, low tech, who cares options but the only reason I could make the move back is that I have a really customized, class A 20 watt amp for music playback. I will bywire it with the Yamaha for the woofer only which only reaches below 150hz, and of course a separate sub for the below 40hz stuff, down to below 20hz,
Any tidbits of wisdom will be welcomed,
keith
post #1166 of 2855
Hi,

i have a 2010, extended surround set to es, so now when i watch a dts hd-mstr track 5.1 the display info always moves back and forward showing dts hd mstr and dts es mtrx. Is there a way to turn the switching of? Thanks!
post #1167 of 2855
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Originally Posted by anadigi View Post

The 3010 is very nice, except the streaming Flac files from network( my NAS is using Twonky Media) keep cutting off.
I agree Don't mention, recommend or talk about Onkyo to me. You'll only be wasting your time!

I just got my Synology NAS setup streaming Flac files to my A810 and Im not having any problems at all. It works and sounds great. The only problem I can see is how to fill up 2 2TB hard drives.

So I don't think its your A3010 that's the problem with streaming flac. Sounds like it could be a problem with your NAS or software. Hope you get it ironed out because this is the way to go with lossless files
post #1168 of 2855
Hiya

I just got the RX-A810 today and im having a little problem here, I connected a Smyth Realiser on the HDMI outputs and apparently the receiver wont output 5.1 or 7.1 over HDMI. Im not sure if im doing anything wrong but I have checked and tried everything including reading the manual to make sure im not missing anything. I know it might sound a bit odd to most of you that im connecing something on the HDMI outputs to get sound rather than using the speaker outputs but its not really .. The realiser works on my PS3 HDMI and i get sound on all speaker channels but when using the RX-A810 im only getting Front Center/Left/Right .. Back surround speakers are enabled in the receiver setup and the sources im using are all surround. Also I just upgraded firmware to latest version 1.18. Anyone able to help me please?
post #1169 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Hoaxie View Post

Hiya

I just got the RX-A810 today and im having a little problem here, I connected a Smyth Realiser on the HDMI outputs and apparently the receiver wont output 5.1 or 7.1 over HDMI. Im not sure if im doing anything wrong but I have checked and tried everything including reading the manual to make sure im not missing anything. I know it might sound a bit odd to most of you that im connecing something on the HDMI outputs to get sound rather than using the speaker outputs but its not really .. The realiser works on my PS3 HDMI and i get sound on all speaker channels but when using the RX-A810 im only getting Front Center/Left/Right .. Back surround speakers are enabled in the receiver setup and the sources im using are all surround. Also I just upgraded firmware to latest version 1.18. Anyone able to help me please?

You cannot output multichannel audio from an AVR via HDMI. The only way to do so is with analog pre-outs.
post #1170 of 2855
I want to be able to use the advance HD audio codecs available through hdmi and when checking the manual it seemed to make reference to a lot of 9.2 and 7.1and2 setups and All I want is to be able to add 5 channels using one separate sub, a center channel speaker , two rear surrounds, and I will use a the yamaha speaker outputs for just driving a single woofer in my rt and lt front speakers. I will use a rca front rt and lft to go to my separate half speaker driving everything above 130hz. So I have to use the manual interface which I can't find, and use my sound pressure readings to set the levels for everything.
Funny thing they mentioned there could be nothing blocking the way of the auto set up mike so I should move all furniture but when I listen the furniture will be back in place anyway.
Yamaha set up examples are all thinking that I am going to use 7 or 9 plus sets of speakers. My room isn't configured for that much output. 5.1 done well can be splendid. Can anyone tell me where they indicate how to do a simple manual set up of left front, center front and right front with two rear right and left speakers. I hope somebody can tell me because,
1.- I don't want to have to move all the furniture for the auto set up and then move it back so it can sound like ****. I have to adjust the sound based upon what my custom class A 20 watt amp adds to the party,
I hope somebody has a couple of bits of info for me, please, please
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