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post #1171 of 2855
New RX-A3010 owner here.

I have ALWAYS been a pre/pro + amp guy for the last dozen+ years.
Going back over the years, these include every pre/pro from EAD, Bel Canto Pre/Pro Gen2, Parasounds, Classe SSP-600, and a Cary 11A for the last 2 years. These were mated to amps such as EAD PM2000, Sim Audio Titan-7, D-Sonic 1000ASP 7-channel, and currently Nuforce MCH-3SE-C7. Some great gear !

A couple years ago, I bought Klipsch KL-650 for L-C-R.
These are 99db sensitivity, and I had been using Cary 11A + Nuforce amp with them.
Next on the speaker wish-list are JTR T12 or T8 for L-C-R.

I had ALWAYS wanted to try running the Klipsch with a receiver and finally got around to it with my RX-A3010. I watched a Blu-Ray last night and was trying to be very cricital of centre channel dialogue. I have to say, I did not hear any shortcomings watching last night. I think having such high-sensitivity speakers takes away from a receiver’s amplifier shortcomings. Though my brain keeps telling me I need to spend $$$ and have separates !

I still have my NuForce amp, so will continue to experiment using the Yamaha to drive the speakers, or sending pre-out to the NuForce amp.

- Andy
post #1172 of 2855
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Originally Posted by gce View Post

I just got my Synology NAS setup streaming Flac files to my A810 and Im not having any problems at all. It works and sounds great. The only problem I can see is how to fill up 2 2TB hard drives.

So I don't think its your A3010 that's the problem with streaming flac. Sounds like it could be a problem with your NAS or software. Hope you get it ironed out because this is the way to go with lossless files

You are right! I change the port truncking and works perfect.
post #1173 of 2855
Hello all,

You may or may not know this but for those who use USB flash drives might like this.

http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb-...sb-flash-drive

These can fit in the USB port with the door closed on my RX-A1010, thought some might find this useful.

I found a 8gb on sale at best buy for $10.00 and I found 16gb on Ebay for about $15.00. It is a little slow but works good and I like the fact I can leave it in the port with the door closed.

Have a good one.
post #1174 of 2855
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Originally Posted by keithhr View Post

I want to be able to use the advance HD audio codecs available through hdmi and when checking the manual it seemed to make reference to a lot of 9.2 and 7.1and2 setups and All I want is to be able to add 5 channels using one separate sub, a center channel speaker , two rear surrounds, and I will use a the yamaha speaker outputs for just driving a single woofer in my rt and lt front speakers. I will use a rca front rt and lft to go to my separate half speaker driving everything above 130hz. So I have to use the manual interface which I can't find, and use my sound pressure readings to set the levels for everything.
Funny thing they mentioned there could be nothing blocking the way of the auto set up mike so I should move all furniture but when I listen the furniture will be back in place anyway.
Yamaha set up examples are all thinking that I am going to use 7 or 9 plus sets of speakers. My room isn't configured for that much output. 5.1 done well can be splendid. Can anyone tell me where they indicate how to do a simple manual set up of left front, center front and right front with two rear right and left speakers. I hope somebody can tell me because,
1.- I don't want to have to move all the furniture for the auto set up and then move it back so it can sound like ****. I have to adjust the sound based upon what my custom class A 20 watt amp adds to the party,
I hope somebody has a couple of bits of info for me, please, please

I think you're overthinking this. Just leave the Power Amp Assign on Basic and manually select which speakers are active here:

On Screen > Setup > Manual Setup > Speakers > Configuration

From this Configuration menu select the "None" option for the speakers that are not used, which in your case would be the front + rear presence and back surrounds. That'll give you 5.1.

From there, try running the auto-setup with all the furniture as-is. If the results don't agree with you, then do as prescribed and move stuff out of the way of the mic. Whatever option works best, you can then manually tweak the settings (i.e., speaker size, crossover settings) from there.
post #1175 of 2855
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Originally Posted by red_5ive View Post

I think you're overthinking this. Just leave the Power Amp Assign on Basic and manually select which speakers are active here:

On Screen > Setup > Manual Setup > Speakers > Configuration

From this Configuration menu select the "None" option for the speakers that are not used, which in your case would be the front + rear presence and back surrounds. That'll give you 5.1.

From there, try running the auto-setup with all the furniture as-is.

Actually it's simpler the than that. Connect your speakers, leave Power Amp Assign at its default and then run YPAO. It'll figure out which speakers you actually have attached to your receiver and enable and disable them as necessary.
post #1176 of 2855
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Originally Posted by CarlDM View Post

Since digging further, it seems to me that the Samsung is the culprit.

I'm guessing that the TV is actually changing the audio input on the receiver.

If I turn off the HDMI control or otherwise remove the TV from the equation it doesn't happen.

Unless someone here can point me in the right direction it is probably best to seek answers on the appropriate Samsung thread.

Same exact issue here, same tv. It is the tv doing it. If you turn on the tv before the receiver, it won't switch to AV4.
post #1177 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Dean333 View Post

Hello all,

You may or may not know this but for those who use USB flash drives might like this.

http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb-...sb-flash-drive

These can fit in the USB port with the door closed on my RX-A1010, thought some might find this useful.

I found a 8gb on sale at best buy for $10.00 and I found 16gb on Ebay for about $15.00. It is a little slow but works good and I like the fact I can leave it in the port with the door closed.

Have a good one.

Nice find, very useful indeed. Thanks.
post #1178 of 2855
Hi all,

I am just about to pull the trigger on a A3010. But after having read the whole thread there is one thing I am not completely sure of: Can the 3010 run all 11 channels at the same time if an extra external power amp is availavle for two of the channels?

Reading the thread gives me a good idea that the answer may be yes, but reading the english manual, page 16 it says "The surround back speakers and rear presence speakers do not produce sounds simultaneously. This unit automatically switches the speakers to be used depending on a selected CINEMA DSP (p61)."

Does this mean only without an external amp connected or can the unit not send sound to all channels in any case? Has anyone here tried?

Hoping for a (positive) answer on this one ... And thanks for a great thread.
post #1179 of 2855
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Originally Posted by OleSeberg View Post

Hi all,

I am just about to pull the trigger on a A3010. But after having read the whole thread there is one thing I am not completely sure of: Can the 3010 run all 11 channels at the same time if an extra external power amp is availavle for two of the channels?

Reading the thread gives me a good idea that the answer may be yes, but reading the english manual, page 16 it says "The surround back speakers and rear presence speakers do not produce sounds simultaneously. This unit automatically switches the speakers to be used depending on a selected CINEMA DSP (p61)."

Does this mean only without an external amp connected or can the unit not send sound to all channels in any case? Has anyone here tried?

Hoping for a (positive) answer on this one ... And thanks for a great thread.

Yes, with an external 2ch amp you can run all 11 channels at once. I have an 11.2 Def Tech system using an onkyo 2 ch amp. What the manual is referring to there is
1. It's assuming you are only using the built in 9channel amp so it will switch according to best use
2. That with factory settings, watching 5.1 source material it will not utilize the surround back speakers even with an external amp; however, you can change this in the options menu under Extended Surround to Auto or always on

And just for the record, 11.1 is not just for large rooms. It makes my smallish room sound like a much much larger room. For example, in the camp scenes of Game of Thrones last night it seems like I can hear ambient sounds like clinging metal, horses, and shouts hundreds of yards away vs in a small area in 5.1.
post #1180 of 2855
Thank you DSM. That was just what I hoped to hear. One 3010 to replace an older Yammi in Denmark... And 11 channels in yet another smalish room
post #1181 of 2855
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Originally Posted by OleSeberg View Post

Hi all,

I am just about to pull the trigger on a A3010. But after having read the whole thread there is one thing I am not completely sure of: Can the 3010 run all 11 channels at the same time if an extra external power amp is availavle for two of the channels?

Reading the thread gives me a good idea that the answer may be yes, but reading the english manual, page 16 it says "The surround back speakers and rear presence speakers do not produce sounds simultaneously. This unit automatically switches the speakers to be used depending on a selected CINEMA DSP (p61)."

Does this mean only without an external amp connected or can the unit not send sound to all channels in any case? Has anyone here tried?

Hoping for a (positive) answer on this one ... And thanks for a great thread.


Yes, no problem. Just add an external amp to the pre out and you are good to go.
post #1182 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Yes, no problem. Just add an external amp to the pre out and you are good to go.

Is this also the case with the a2010 ? And can anyone recomend a good amp ?
post #1183 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Jasoncharles View Post

Is this also the case with the a2010 ? And can anyone recomend a good amp ?

3010 is only capable of 11.2. You can't go wrong with the emotiva amps as entry level. Next are outlaw and the price begins a steep upward climb.
post #1184 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

3010 is only capable of 11.2. You can't go wrong with the emotiva amps as entry level. Next are outlaw and the price begins a steep upward climb.

Sorry guys I'm knew to the external amplification part of HT. so is there a way to run 11.2 on my 2010 ? Dont I just need a 2 channel amp ? I'm not up on the whole pre outs and what not but I do have a spare set of speakers that I want to use as rear presence to go from 9.2 with my front presence and expand to rear presence 11.2 . If any one has an info on what I should do it would be welcome . Cheers guys
post #1185 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Jasoncharles View Post

Sorry guys I'm knew to the external amplification part of HT. so is there a way to run 11.2 on my 2010 ? Dont I just need a 2 channel amp ?

Nope. The RX-A2010 is only supports front presence. It doesn't support rear presence like the RX-A3010 and doesn't have anywhere you could connect an external amplifier to get it.
post #1186 of 2855
Well that sucks .. Guess its front presence only . Has anyone actually tried 11.2 yet ?
post #1187 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post


Nope. The RX-A2010 is only supports front presence. It doesn't support rear presence like the RX-A3010 and doesn't have anywhere you could connect an external amplifier to get it.

The RX-A2010 does indeed support rear presence. I own one and had a hard time deciding which to use, surround-back or rear presence. Ended up going SB.

You are correct about the pre-outs though.
post #1188 of 2855
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Originally Posted by awake33 View Post


The RX-A2010 does indeed support rear presence. I own one and had a hard time deciding which to use, surround-back or rear presence. Ended up going SB.

You are correct about the pre-outs though.

I think the op was looking to do 11.2 So yes, the A-2010 does support rear presence but the most you can get out of it is 9.2. As you said, you will have to choose between rear presence and surround back. If you want 11.2 you will need the A-3010 and an external 2ch amp
post #1189 of 2855
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Originally Posted by DSM12 View Post

I think the op was looking to do 11.2 So yes, the A-2010 does support rear presence but the most you can get out of it is 9.2. As you said, you will have to choose between rear presence and surround back. If you want 11.2 you will need the A-3010 and an external 2ch amp

Seems simple enough that nobody should get confused, and has been covered countless times. Regardless of what the OP is looking for, the incorrect info was given for the 2010. I wasn't trying to steer him toward any particular model.
post #1190 of 2855
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Originally Posted by awake33 View Post

The RX-A2010 does indeed support rear presence. I own one and had a hard time deciding which to use, surround-back or rear presence. Ended up going SB.

Ah, sorry, I just saw the absense of rear pre-outs on the RX-A2010 and assumed it was the same as with the RX-A2000.

Ooo... just noticed that the manuals for RX-Ax010 have a rear-panel "reference diagram" free of any extra labels suitable for printing out. I wish the manuals for the previous year's recievers had that.
post #1191 of 2855
Just bought a brand new RX-2010 from Electronics Expo. It's going to replace a Sony DG-1000 that went kaput after 6 years of service, powering (aging?) Athena FS1 speakers (5.1) + Patio Outdoors athena speakers (still sound good after 6 years of sun and rain).

Great deal after calling them, got a new one with 3year warranty for the same price as the open box item (1099) they had there - while it's still $1499 at Amazon, others, and $999 on Ebay (but no warranty). Now wait about 7 days from NJ to CA...
post #1192 of 2855
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Originally Posted by SphereTL1000S View Post

Just bought a brand new RX-2010 from Electronics Expo. It's going to replace a Sony DG-1000 that went kaput after 6 years of service, powering (aging?) Athena FS1 speakers (5.1) + Patio Outdoors athena speakers (still sound good after 6 years of sun and rain).

Great deal after calling them, got a new one with 3year warranty for the same price as the open box item (1099) they had there - while it's still $1499 at Amazon, others, and $999 on Ebay (but no warranty). Now wait about 7 days from NJ to CA...

Congrats!!!!

You will be really happy with all the stuff that is packed in this receiver. I have the A1010 and just the network capabilities of this receiver made it for me. That of course in second after all the current codecs, plus the 3D capabilities, plus the fact that it can still pass signal when the receiver is off, and .........

Well, you can see how happy I am with this receiver. The A1010 also replaced a 6 to 7 years old Onkyo.

Keep us posted!
post #1193 of 2855
Thanks...I'm dumping this threads into .txt files and I'll read them into my tablet. I should start looking into the manual too. Any other thread or useful info about them (service manual or something like I wouldn't find on the Yamaha website?)

Cheers,

Sphere.
post #1194 of 2855
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Originally Posted by SphereTL1000S View Post

Thanks...I'm dumping this threads into .txt files and I'll read them into my tablet. I should start looking into the manual too. Any other thread or useful info about them (service manual or something like I wouldn't find on the Yamaha website?)

Cheers,

Sphere.

While reading this thread don't be scared with some really negative posts left here. I just want to be vocal on the fact that my unit is working fine (knocking on wood) and that I'm really happy with my Yamaha. Yep, there might be better products, but I just can't afford them. So, I'm realistic on what this product will offer me and by reading this thread, I'm learning much more of possibilities for my setup and some of its limitations.

Have fun and keep us posted!
post #1195 of 2855
Can the RX-A1010 up convert composite video such as from a laser disc player and if so, does anyone have an experience in doing so? Specifically, how does it look?

Outside of Onkyo this receiver and the new 773 are the major players in my search for a new receiver. I currently own a TX-SR608 and it is fine for everything save my laser disc collection but the addition of slightly more power might be welcome so long as it is clean and usable in its delivery and the ability to receive internet stations would be welcome although I have a Grace Digital Allegro for that.

I think the 1010 receives Hybrid Digital broadcasts without any additional tuner being required but regular stations are not longer of much interest to me. Still it if does indeed have that feature it is a plus in its corner.

Thanks for any input.
post #1196 of 2855
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Originally Posted by The Scott View Post

Can the RX-A1010 up convert composite video such as from a laser disc player and if so, does anyone have an experience in doing so? Specifically, how does it look?

If excellent video processing is desired, look at the A2010 instead with its HQV Vida 1900 discrete video processor.

As yes, if you call around to reputable authorized dealers you can find the A2010 for far, far, far below what is advertised (MSRP) online.
post #1197 of 2855
Can't go wrong with the 2010. I too still watch my laser disc collection and use my elite 97 through my HQV Vida chip with excellent up scaling results.
post #1198 of 2855
So after purchasing a 2010 and loving it I found out through the help of you guys that the 2010 can only do 9.2 at simultaneous. So I called my hi fi dealer and ask how much to swap them over for 3010 and he quoted me $450 considering the wife has thrown the box and all the foam out already. Is $450 worth the upgrade and will I notice a audible difference ? Thanks guys
post #1199 of 2855
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

If excellent video processing is desired, look at the A2010 instead with its HQV Vida 1900 discrete video processor.

As yes, if you call around to reputable authorized dealers you can find the A2010 for far, far, far below what is advertised (MSRP) online.

It had best be really close to the $1,000 I am "allowed" to spend otherwise my wife will not be happy with me.

Thanks!




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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Can't go wrong with the 2010. I too still watch my laser disc collection and use my elite 97 through my HQV Vida chip with excellent up scaling results.

That is great to hear. Thanks!
post #1200 of 2855
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Originally Posted by The Scott View Post


It had best be really close to the $1,000 I am "allowed" to spend otherwise my wife will not be happy with me.

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