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Originally Posted by RassilonZero View Post

Any experience or opinions on how well the yamaha will drive these?
Not sure about the Polks, but since they are "bookshelf" sized I presume you will be just fine. In the A2010 setup menu you can select lower than 8ohm speaker impedance if you have any concerns.

FWIW, I'm using my A2010 with a 5.1 array of Speakercraft Aim8 Three (6ohm) speakers and I'm quite satisfied with the Yamaha's power output.

Besides, it's easy to always add a external amp later. wink.gif
post #1532 of 2854
Have you tried turning off the TV while just about to start the movie? The oppo attached to the 2010, TV is on - go to the main menu of the disc - highlight the Play button in the menu. Turn off the TV. Then start the movie. See if the audio issue goes away?

I believe that if the display is off, the 2010 will offer the Oppo it's own EDID, which should be a generic display with all audio capabilities.

Although, I thought you tried the dual Oppo outputs - one for audio, the other video. Hmmmm. Oh well, it's worth a shot anyways for troubleshooting purposes.
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Agreed. The TV is the only remaining HDMI device that has not been changed. I will not be able to doing anything about it, though. I will have to alter the system in favor of the devices that work together vs the single one that does not.
Oppo has not been contacted regarding the possibility that my player is flawed in this area. I may consider doing that once everything else has been eliminated.
post #1533 of 2854
I know nothing about yamaha's so this may seem like a redundant question...................Does YPAO calibrate the subs? Does the subwoofer trim calibrate the subs, as i have seen this on the 3020?
post #1534 of 2854
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Originally Posted by sonic debauchery View Post

I know nothing about yamaha's so this may seem like a redundant question...................Does YPAO calibrate the subs? Does the subwoofer trim calibrate the subs, as i have seen this on the 3020?

It does on the 20x0/30x0 models--not below.
post #1535 of 2854
E Hi all. I have a few quick questions if anyone who can tolerate noobs can indulge me.

I am getting a RX-V3071 which is identical power spec, DAC and feature wise as the 3010 ( minus the fifth foor, H chassis brace, i-pod dock and extended warranty ).

I have yamaha NS-777 mains ( 100watt nominal 250 max ).

I known the receivers power will be fine with all channels driven, but I wondered what the risks were in 2 channel mode.

My speakers are 6ohms and that would mean that depending on volume it cold be pushing the limits of my speakers.

Max volume I listen to movies with my current rx-v667is -15( approx).

Do you think that I am at risk of blowing my fronts at that volume level with the theoritical 170 ( or so ) rms per speaker with my 100watt nominal 6 ohm speakers in stereo mode ? ( when the full 2 channel driven power is delivered )

Cheers.
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I will have to wait until the new AVR arrives to test this, but you have reminded me of that advanced setting called Monitor Check. I didn't try changing that when I still had the A2010.

I did try the dual outputs when I still had the RX-V3800 in place. Using it that way solved some problems but others remained. Things got better with the A2010 but then new problems were discovered. Also, no matter what AVR I have, using the dual outputs won't work for me long term for other reasons.

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Originally Posted by maxleung View Post

Have you tried turning off the TV while just about to start the movie? The oppo attached to the 2010, TV is on - go to the main menu of the disc - highlight the Play button in the menu. Turn off the TV. Then start the movie. See if the audio issue goes away?
I believe that if the display is off, the 2010 will offer the Oppo it's own EDID, which should be a generic display with all audio capabilities.
Although, I thought you tried the dual Oppo outputs - one for audio, the other video. Hmmmm. Oh well, it's worth a shot anyways for troubleshooting purposes.

Edited by jdryyz - 7/2/12 at 9:09am
post #1537 of 2854
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Originally Posted by dchalfont View Post

I am getting a RX-V3071 which is identical power spec, DAC and feature wise as the 3010 ( minus the fifth foor, H chassis brace, i-pod dock and extended warranty ).

I'm pretty sure the RX-V3071 has the H-brace and the dock connector, actually.
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Do you think that I am at risk of blowing my fronts at that volume level with the theoritical 170 ( or so ) rms per speaker with my 100watt nominal 6 ohm speakers in stereo mode ? ( when the full 2 channel driven power is delivered )

No, you won't blow the speakers if you drive them at the same actual volume level as measured by an SPL meter or your own ears. Using only two channels and/or a more powerful receiver only lessens the chance of this happening as it makes clipping less likely and clipping can damage speakers at relatively low power levels.

Note that a volume level of -15 dB on the RX-V1071 is unlikely to drive the your speakers at the same volume as your old receiver at -15. You'll have to figure out what volume control setting on your new receiver you like to listen to movies at. Don't immediately set it to -15, it could be much louder (or much quieter or somewhere inbetween) on your new receiver.

Since you have 6 ohm speakers you should set the receiver to 6 ohms to lessen the chance of the receiver getting damaged.
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Has anyone compared the Marantz AV7005 to the Yammie 3010?
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Originally Posted by RassilonZero View Post

How is the A2010 yamaha with lower impedence/lower sensitivity speakers?
I picked up an A2010 a month or so ago, to replace my RX-V1600 (which i was quite happy with, except it won't pass 1080p over HDMI).
I'm now upgrading my speakers, and ordered a set of Polk's LSiM speakers (703 bookshelfs, 706c center, and the 702f/x surrounds). these are rated at 88db sensitivity and "8 ohm compatible"... But as the previous polk Lsi series were 4ohm, i expect these may be somewhat lower than 8ohms as well...
Any experience or opinions on how well the yamaha will drive these? Im toying with the idea of an external power amp, but if i don't need it, id rather save the money...
Thanks!


I,m running a 5.1 setup using Snell towers for the front mains and rear surrounds and a Snell center speaker.The speakers are rated at 4 ohms and at 89db sensitivity.I set all speakers to small and set the crossovers at 80. I'm bi-amping the front mains,this may be over kill but since I am not using other zones I figured why not.I set the 2010 to the 6 ohm setting.I usually listen to movies at around -20 to -18.Sounds awesome with plenty of power to spare.I've had my 2010 since March and love it.
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well I'm disappointed in the new Yamaha's. Increased prices and only significant new feature is Airplay - which is something I specifically would not use.
I have the A-3000 which has been very good, and I guess I'll be keeping that.
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Originally Posted by mtnsound View Post

well I'm disappointed in the new Yamaha's. Increased prices and only significant new feature is Airplay - which is something I specifically would not use.
I have the A-3000 which has been very good, and I guess I'll be keeping that.

The YPAO software has been updated along with a newly re-designed calibration mic. That's the biggest new feature IMO.

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I have a question about hooking up an older Xbox 360 w/out the HDMI connection. I'm running the component cables from the Xbox to the AV3 component video input in the receiver. Then I'm running the optical cable from the xbox to the AV3 optical in on the receiver. I have a single HDMI cable going from the HDMI Out 1 on the receiver to the TV. When I turn on the Xbox if I select AV3 on the receiver I get sound but no picture. I have a feeling I'm doing something stupid. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks
post #1543 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

I have a question about hooking up an older Xbox 360 w/out the HDMI connection. I'm running the component cables from the Xbox to the AV3 component video input in the receiver. Then I'm running the optical cable from the xbox to the AV3 optical in on the receiver. I have a single HDMI cable going from the HDMI Out 1 on the receiver to the TV. When I turn on the Xbox if I select AV3 on the receiver I get sound but no picture. I have a feeling I'm doing something stupid. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
there may be some conversion settings you need to turn on for it to convert the analog component input to HDMI.
check the on-screen setup menus for video and HDMI. i haven't used it myself so I'm not sure exactly how to get it set up.
post #1544 of 2854
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Originally Posted by RassilonZero View Post

there may be some conversion settings you need to turn on for it to convert the analog component input to HDMI.
check the on-screen setup menus for video and HDMI. i haven't used it myself so I'm not sure exactly how to get it set up.

I've been combing it for hours and tried every setting I can think off. I have exhausted my mental ability and need someone of greater intellect to take it from here haha
post #1545 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

I have a question about hooking up an older Xbox 360 w/out the HDMI connection. I'm running the component cables from the Xbox to the AV3 component video input in the receiver. Then I'm running the optical cable from the xbox to the AV3 optical in on the receiver. I have a single HDMI cable going from the HDMI Out 1 on the receiver to the TV. When I turn on the Xbox if I select AV3 on the receiver I get sound but no picture. I have a feeling I'm doing something stupid. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks

I think you have to modify the video input. Here is the path to go there:

On the remote control hit "On Screen"
Setup
Function
Input Assignment

You should be able to modify the Video and Audio assignment for AV3.
post #1546 of 2854
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

I think you have to modify the video input. Here is the path to go there:
On the remote control hit "On Screen"
Setup
Function
Input Assignment
You should be able to modify the Video and Audio assignment for AV3.

I don't fully understand that page but I've tried all the combinations I could think of with no luck. I just set it all back to the way it was. Still get sound but no picture.
post #1547 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

I don't fully understand that page but I've tried all the combinations I could think of with no luck. I just set it all back to the way it was. Still get sound but no picture.

Based on your previous post, you are using the AV 3 port. So, you should have to connect the component cables from the Xbox to the component inputs on the "component input C". And the optical cable should be connected to the optical input on AV3.

Now, you need to change the AV and Audio input on the Input Assignment to match the configuration above. In other words, AV 3 should on your screen should looks like this:

AV 3
Coaxial - blank (nothing selected there)
Optical - 3
Component - C

Could you please try that?
post #1548 of 2854
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Based on your previous post, you are using the AV 3 port. So, you should have to connect the component cables from the Xbox to the component inputs on the "component input C". And the optical cable should be connected to the optical input on AV3.
Now, you need to change the AV and Audio input on the Input Assignment to match the configuration above. In other words, AV 3 should on your screen should looks like this:
AV 3
Coaxial - blank (nothing selected there)
Optical - 3
Component - C
Could you please try that?

Yep, that's what I have and that's what was there by default. Still no picture. I appreciate your help btw, I'm really at a loss with this one.

edit: I verified the Xbox works by connecting the component cables directly to the TV. All is good there.
Edited by rockjeep44 - 7/4/12 at 9:54am
post #1549 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

Yep, that's what I have and that's what was there by default. Still no picture. I appreciate your help btw, I'm really at a loss with this one.
edit: I verified the Xbox works by connecting the component cables directly to the TV. All is good there.

I was about to recommend to use a different set of component cables. I know you already mentioned you tried already all combinations, but if you can use AV4 port and then change the component to A. I am just guessing one of the inputs is not working, so you might have luck trying a different one (instead of AV3).
post #1550 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

Yep, that's what I have and that's what was there by default. Still no picture. I appreciate your help btw, I'm really at a loss with this one.

Try fiddling around with the video processing options: [On Screen] -> Setup -> Video -> Processing. Try it both off and on, with different resolution settings. You'll need to exit the on screen menus completely each time you make a change for them to go into effect.

You might also want to look at the video signal status for the receiver: [On Screen] -> Information -> Video Signal, in particular what it says for the "Analog Resoluton". Similarily you find out what kind of singal your TV is receiving when AV3 is selected. Is it getting no signal at all, an invalid signal or a valid but blank video signal?
post #1551 of 2854
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

I was about to recommend to use a different set of component cables. I know you already mentioned you tried already all combinations, but if you can use AV4 port and then change the component to A. I am just guessing one of the inputs is not working, so you might have luck trying a different one (instead of AV3).

Still nothing but sound. Does this receiver even convert component IN to HDMI OUT? Should I be using HDMI Out 2? I'm out to throw this Xbox in the trash and go get the new model with HDMI.
post #1552 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

Still nothing but sound. Does this receiver even convert component IN to HDMI OUT? Should I be using HDMI Out 2? I'm out to throw this Xbox in the trash and go get the new model with HDMI.

See that is Microsoft hidden plan to make you buy a new one.............LOL.

Try what Ross Ridge recommended and report back.

Oh, don't throw the Xbox to the trash, I will give you my address and you can throw it over here..........;o)
post #1553 of 2854
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Try fiddling around with the video processing options: [On Screen] -> Setup -> Video -> Processing. Try it both off and on, with different resolution settings. You'll need to exit the on screen menus completely each time you make a change for them to go into effect.
You might also want to look at the video signal status for the receiver: [On Screen] -> Information -> Video Signal, in particular what it says for the "Analog Resoluton". Similarily you find out what kind of singal your TV is receiving when AV3 is selected. Is it getting no signal at all, an invalid signal or a valid but blank video signal?

No change with processing on or off. As far as signal status I get "Analog Resolution - 1080p@60hz>1080p@60hz." I don't know if it's worth noting but when AV3 is selected on the receiver I get sound from the Xbox like I mentioned but the video is the receiver background instead of the Xbox video.

When I had the Xbox straight to the TV I made sure the settings were correct. It is set to output 16:9 1080p.
post #1554 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

As far as signal status I get "Analog Resolution - 1080p@60hz>1080p@60hz."...[edit]... When I had the Xbox straight to the TV I made sure the settings were correct. It is set to output 16:9 1080p.
Hmmm...have you tried setting the Xbox to 1080i for testing purposes???
post #1555 of 2854
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Hmmm...have you tried setting the Xbox to 1080i for testing purposes???

Yah, that could be the problem. I don't think the recevier supports 1080p over component.
post #1556 of 2854
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Hmmm...have you tried setting the Xbox to 1080i for testing purposes???

I'm not even sure if that's an option. I have a new Sharp 70" 1080p set and it received the 1080p signal just fine when connected directly.
post #1557 of 2854
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Hmmm...have you tried setting the Xbox to 1080i for testing purposes???

One more thing to try (it happened to me just a couple of times), when you are certain everything is connected correctly. Select AV3 (as you mentioned so far just audio and no video). Then turn off everything.

Next, turn on the Yamaha, then your TV and let them complete the initial setup process. Wait few seconds after you are able to see the AV3 connection on your TV and right after that turn on your Xbox.
post #1558 of 2854
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Hmmm...have you tried setting the Xbox to 1080i for testing purposes???

I checked and stand corrected.
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Yah, that could be the problem. I don't think the recevier supports 1080p over component.

That worked! Thanks so much for all of your help!

Seems kind of stupid. Now I have to output at 1080i at the Xbox and let the receiver upconvert to 1080p? Think it would just be worth it to get a new Xbox S with the HDMI out?
post #1559 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

That worked! Thanks so much for all of your help!

Cheers!!!

So, what game are you going to play now?

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post #1560 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rockjeep44 View Post

Seems kind of stupid. Now I have to output at 1080i at the Xbox and let the receiver upconvert to 1080p? Think it would just be worth it to get a new Xbox S with the HDMI out?

Most games render at 720p or less so it's probably not going to make much difference.

You can either have the receiver do the upscaling or let the TV handle it. Try both and see which you prefer.
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