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post #1711 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

...or can you just go to their website and fill out the information with the serial no. etc?
Yes. Register it on the Yamaha website (with serial number) using the date on your receipt.
post #1712 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

Really, I didn't know that, but I guess since BB is a valid reseller? Anyhow, really good to know since I picked mine up w/o even asking about the warranty b/c I assumed the manufacturer warranty was not valid. Do you call Yamaha and let them know your AVR model and serial and they'll let you continue the warranty from a prorated date, say the day the AVR came out or can you just go to their website and fill out the information with the serial no. etc?
Thanks.

Since best buy is an authorized reseller, the warranty is valid from the date of purchase even if it's open-boxed. Best thing to do is just register the receiver with yamaha online with your date of purchase and serial number. I'd also suggest you make a copy of your purchase receipt since BB receipts will fade over time. If you are a rewardzone member you can also download copies of your receipt from myrz.com if you need them.
post #1713 of 2855
I've had an rx-a710 for about 2 months. I'm very happy with it, except for 2 minor problems I encounter while playing mp3s off my Windows 7 PC via ethernet cable. (Mp3s are in iTunes.)

(1) Receiver recognizes only about 1/3 of the songs in my collection. I have a fairly decent collection of mp3s (about 10,000 songs/40 gb), sorted by artist/album. The receiver seems to recognize all of the artists and albums, but only 3-4 songs appear when an album is selected.

(2) Receiver stops after playing a few songs. When I select a song to play, whether by remote or iPad/iPhone app, the receiver typically plays that song and the next 2-3 songs and then stops. At worst, it plays the selected song only and then stops. I can't get it to play more than 3-4 songs continuously via the ethernet cable. (Yes, I have played around with the repeat/continuous play and shuffle play selections, to no avail.)

I also have my PC hard-wired to the receiver via an RCA cable, so I can access all my songs and play them continuously that way, but I can't pick and choose my songs via the iPad app using this method.

Has anyone encountered these issues before, or have any thoughts on how to fix them? Thanks.
post #1714 of 2855
I have my Rx-A820 set up via a wireless bridge and all is well except some of my itunes songs show up in a grey color on my ipad and will not play. Any ideas?
post #1715 of 2855
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Originally Posted by mesquitehead View Post

I have my Rx-A820 set up via a wireless bridge and all is well except some of my itunes songs show up in a grey color on my ipad and will not play. Any ideas?
I have a 2010 and I have the same problem. If I play music via my iPod using the Yammy dock I have full access to all music. If I stream from my iPad (same music library some of the songs are grayed out and will not play. I suspect it has something to do with the way they were downloaded or purchased. I think this has something to do with apple and their control freak ways!!! I looked at my playlists and can't figure it out. Hopefully someone will chime in and explain this.
post #1716 of 2855
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I have a 2010 and I have the same problem. If I play music via my iPod using the Yammy dock I have full access to all music. If I stream from my iPad (same music library some of the songs are grayed out and will not play. I suspect it has something to do with the way they were downloaded or purchased. I think this has something to do with apple and their control freak ways!!! I looked at my playlists and can't figure it out. Hopefully someone will chime in and explain this.

Seems it has to do with protected files. I found a software you can download called MelodyCan...seems to work, price is about $30.
post #1717 of 2855
I'm trying to figure out a way to stream lossless FLAC files to my receiver, which is on my network.

Actually at the moment, i'm struggling to stream any files from my PC to my RX-A2010. On a Windows 7 machine, i'm going into network & sharing options, advanced sharing, media streaming options, in there I'm seeing my RX-A2010, for which I've customized to allowed and to have all media available to the device, however, when i go to the receivier, and look at the computer which it is seeing, all i'm seeing is a default set of folders, such as music, but when i click on it, it shows as No Content.

I have all my music being shared to the homegroup as Read/Write.

Latest firmware is installed.

I guess i'm missing a step somewhere ?

What would be nice, would be to share a particular folder, one that has just lossless music. Once again, i have this shared as part of my homegroup, but the receiver doesn't even see that.

Do i need some additional software to make this happen ?

Thanks in advance.
post #1718 of 2855
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Originally Posted by thedoc46 View Post

Do i need some additional software to make this happen ?
Yes.

The "media server" in Windows is quite limited. As an example, I'm using Twonky (free to try) on my NAS unit (ReadyNAS Duo) and its streams FLAC to the A2010 just fine. The issue is not the Yamaha.

There are dozens of DLNA media servers available for Windows (many free) so hopefully somebody will share their suggestions (I've defected to the Mac).
Edited by bluechunks - 9/5/12 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Yes. Register it on the Yamaha website (with serial number) using the date on your receipt.
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Originally Posted by simp1yamazn View Post

Since best buy is an authorized reseller, the warranty is valid from the date of purchase even if it's open-boxed. Best thing to do is just register the receiver with yamaha online with your date of purchase and serial number. I'd also suggest you make a copy of your purchase receipt since BB receipts will fade over time. If you are a rewardzone member you can also download copies of your receipt from myrz.com if you need them.

Sweet, thanks for the info fellas!
post #1720 of 2855
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Originally Posted by thedoc46 View Post

I'm trying to figure out a way to stream lossless FLAC files to my receiver, which is on my network.
Actually at the moment.

I installed this http://www.dbpoweramp.com/asset-upnp-dlna.htm on my computer to stream flac to my Yamaha.
post #1721 of 2855
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Originally Posted by simp1yamazn View Post

Since best buy is an authorized reseller, the warranty is valid from the date of purchase even if it's open-boxed. Best thing to do is just register the receiver with yamaha online with your date of purchase and serial number. I'd also suggest you make a copy of your purchase receipt since BB receipts will fade over time. If you are a rewardzone member you can also download copies of your receipt from myrz.com if you need them.

I'd be interested to know the full manufacturers warranty was valid on open box/display model. I was considering a 2010 'open box' from BB but two factors changed my mind. 1) the price was not as competitive as a brand new one from another authorized dealer 2) after escalating the warranty question to a BB store manager he told me because it was a 'display' model, there would be no manufacturers warranty and the 'no warranty' or "as is," or both, would be printed on my receipt (!) I called the store again this morning, pretended i had never called .... yup... still have the display 2010, still asking ridiculously high price for a display model, and told me again, no warranty.

I went with Electronics Expo b/c they had a crazy deal on new in box 2010 - less than then BB display model - and of course no sales tax. I'm not sure EE meant to give that price, they were doing a sale with a coupon code - and usually Yamaha Aventage would be excluded from such a steep discount, but it worked.
post #1722 of 2855
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Originally Posted by willybguy View Post

I'd be interested to know the full manufacturers warranty was valid on open box/display model. I was considering a 2010 'open box' from BB but two factors changed my mind. 1) the price was not as competitive as a brand new one from another authorized dealer 2) after escalating the warranty question to a BB store manager he told me because it was a 'display' model, there would be no manufacturers warranty and the 'no warranty' or "as is," or both, would be printed on my receipt (!) I called the store again this morning, pretended i had never called .... yup... still have the display 2010, still asking ridiculously high price for a display model, and told me again, no warranty.
I went with Electronics Expo b/c they had a crazy deal on new in box 2010 - less than then BB display model - and of course no sales tax. I'm not sure EE meant to give that price, they were doing a sale with a coupon code - and usually Yamaha Aventage would be excluded from such a steep discount, but it worked.

well, seems like you stumbled upon one of the least informed managers for BB. On the receipts (including my open box rx-a2010) it will say "open box", no where does it say "display", "as-is", or "no warranty". Quite the opposite, on open box labels it even says that the full manufacturer warranty is included and full text is available upon request. In any case, glad you were able to find a good deal on your receiver!
post #1723 of 2855
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Originally Posted by willybguy View Post

I'm not sure EE meant to give that price, they were doing a sale with a coupon code - and usually Yamaha Aventage would be excluded from such a steep discount, but it worked.

Guess I must have missed that deal, and i've been hunting for one, cause now it's at $1499 at EE.
post #1724 of 2855
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Originally Posted by sftl97 View Post

Guess I must have missed that deal, and i've been hunting for one, cause now it's at $1499 at EE.

EE will come down off MSRP price if you call. Go to Yamaha's authorized internet dealers page and you'll see there's a pretty short list. Call them and bargain. For me, Ira at World Wide Stereo was the next most competitive, but EE ended up beating the rest. I'm pretty sure last month's EE coupon code deal is gone, but they'll still bargain. fwiw, now that 2020s are rolling out you've got a seasonal window of opportunity....
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Disregard the Melodycan software, it sucks and now I am trying to get a refund from some bunch of idiots in a former soveit country....sucks!
post #1726 of 2855
Hello all...
I am new to Yamaha and to the forum. Thank you all for the great information. I recently bought an RX-A710 (ridiculous deal at East Coast TV's) to replace an Onkyo TX-SR607. I am amazed at the difference in sound quality, let alone the abundance of great features. I am running my receiver with a 7.1 setup(presence) of JBL ES Series speakers and I am hearing things I never did before. The Yamaha has much better clarity and processing. The reason I made the switch is that I got hit by lightning through my Directv and it fried the hdmi out on the Onkyo as well as taking out my Panasonic TC-P54G10. I am running all my power through an APC but had nothing on the satellite coaxial. Does anyone have any suggestions on Coaxial surge protection? I have found some solutions but I am worried about signal degredation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
post #1727 of 2855
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Originally Posted by mesquitehead View Post

Disregard the Melodycan software, it sucks and now I am trying to get a refund from some bunch of idiots in a former soveit country....sucks!
Thanks for the initial info and also for this update. At least I now know the reason, now to find a workaround. Good luck with a refund.
post #1728 of 2855
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Originally Posted by willybguy View Post

still asking ridiculously high price for a display model

I got lucky and found a really good price on the A1010, but I had to drive around to 4-6 different BB to find it. Not sure if you all know but BB was doing a huge remodel and I actually missed that sale like 1.5 months back, but they were selling all of their display models at crazy prices at specific stores only. I was persistent and called a bunch of different BB for about 2 weeks and was told that everything good was gone, but I got lucky and came across one store which was finally doing the Magnolia remodel and they needed to get rid of their open items asap. I'm with you though, some stores had marked of like only $50 bucks from the MSRP on an open box for some AVR's and I was like what the heck, that's no deal smile.gif

Anyhow, glad you were able to get your AVR at a reputable dealer with a good warranty.
post #1729 of 2855
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Actually at the moment, i'm struggling to stream any files from my PC to my RX-A2010. On a Windows 7 machine, i'm going into network & sharing options, advanced sharing, media streaming options, in there I'm seeing my RX-A2010, for which I've customized to allowed and to have all media available to the device, however, when i go to the receivier, and look at the computer which it is seeing, all i'm seeing is a default set of folders, such as music, but when i click on it, it shows as No Content.

Short of an RCA cable you might be best off spending a few bucks on something like Squeezebox, or any wireless network music pusher.


The other thing is play it from an ipod, I know you are trying to stream from your computer but as someone else said the Yamaha dock works pretty flawlessly, I think the manufacturer suggests the YDS-12 for the rx a2010.
post #1730 of 2855
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Originally Posted by audiosounds View Post

Short of an RCA cable you might be best off spending a few bucks on something like Squeezebox, or any wireless network music pusher.
The other thing is play it from an ipod, I know you are trying to stream from your computer but as someone else said the Yamaha dock works pretty flawlessly, I think the manufacturer suggests the YDS-12 for the rx a2010.
I have a 2010 and the YDS-12 and it does work flawlessly. I also play music through pandora using the web controller since it is connected to my AVR via Ethernet. Using the web controller rather then streaming from my iPad/iPhone saves mobile battery life and I can still control it from my mobile device using the controller app or web controller on my iPad. Also I don't get drop outs that way. Had a BBQ recently. Kids playing games in the main zone, streaming pandora via Ethernet in the living room and playing music via the dock in the yard. My point, the more options the better. I freakin love this AVR.
post #1731 of 2855
I'm considering an RX-A710 to replace my RX-V371. After hearing the VSX-822 I set up for a neighbor, I know I am missing some clarity, fullness and calibration. I absolutely hate Pioneer's funky software, displays and smug tech support attitudes though. Even when mentioning a few key suggestions that were not refuted to be valid points, I was brushed off by the guy I was speaking to. Yamaha seems to have no toll free tech support at all though.

Thus I have a few questions I will ask here. Hopefully those whom own RX-A models can answer them. Will the sound be any fuller, clearer and less flat than my RX-V371, or are the DACs and DSPs fairly close in the way they're programmed? I don't just want more features, I mainly want better sound quality. Is Yamaha's YPAO at least as good as Pioneer's basic MCACC calibration? It did a pretty good job on my friend's VSX-822.

Can the YPAO calibration on the RX-A710 be fine tuned? With MCACC, you can only fine tune speaker distance and volume. The EQ is not adjustable unless you go with completely manual settings. I know the RX-A710 uses discrete amplification, but "Selected high quality parts to achieve optimum audio performance" is a bit vague. Anyone know what DSP and DACs it uses?

I've read some older posts here that indicate Yamaha used to make some of their own DSPs, but it seems they've gone with TI for DSPs and the TI owned Burr Brown for DACs lately. I really don't want to take a loss on my current receiver, and pay quite a bit more for an RX-A710, only to find I'm getting the same DSP and DACs. With Denon for instance, their 2312 uses a 32 floating point DSP.

Crutchfield says Yamaha has been one of their more reliable brands, and I like the ease of operation, multiple connections (esp audio inputs), and PC friendliness. I'm basically looking for full sound like the Pioneers have in an easier to use package with features I need, vs a lot of ones I don't, like Air Play, Pandora, vTuner. Slacker has been pretty good for me, and the only one I see supporting it are the higher end Onkyos.

I considered a receiver with MultEQ, but I don't see Onkyo carrying anything but MultEQ XT in $850 and up units. Does Yamaha have a trade up program btw? I hate that you have to ask them questions via email or pay through the nose for a lengthy phone call. I'd also like to know if receivers with ARC require a TV that supports it? I'd rather get the audio from the TV shows via HDMI, and it would open up more receiver options too because many don't have two optical inputs and I don't know if my PC's coaxial out is working.

Are there any receivers with full vs digital sound that have ARC that are cheaper than the RX-A710?

(EDITED)
Just read through several pages of this thread and am worried about what was said about YPAO not adjusting the sub EQ. Doesn't it at least set the crossover frequency like MCACC does?

...just talked to a Yam lower level tech and he confirmed YPAO does adjust Sub dist, lev and Xover, which is all MultEQ and basic MCACC does, so it shouldn't be any worse in that regard. He could not however tell me anything about the RX-A710 DACs and DSP other than the DACs are 24/192 Burr Browns, which I already knew.
Edited by Hi Def Fan - 9/7/12 at 7:26pm
post #1732 of 2855
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I have a 2010 and the YDS-12 and it does work flawlessly. I also play music through pandora using the web controller since it is connected to my AVR via Ethernet. Using the web controller rather then streaming from my iPad/iPhone saves mobile battery life and I can still control it from my mobile device using the controller app or web controller on my iPad. Also I don't get drop outs that way. Had a BBQ recently. Kids playing games in the main zone, streaming pandora via Ethernet in the living room and playing music via the dock in the yard. My point, the more options the better. I freakin love this AVR.

I have my 2010 up and running a few days now, connected to an Apple Airport Express for WiFi. I upgraded from a 671 and find the 2010 has a more robust and durable WiFi connection. I also like Pandora built into the 2010's firmware, and controlling it all with my iOS device is seamless.

Ditto, the 2010 seems to play more nicely with my harmony one remote. Less missed or repeated commands, and seems to have a more robust and durable communication link.

My other comment so far is I have not touched the larger OEM remote since 1st day. I don't think I've ever held a heavier bundled remote. Makes me wonder if Yamaha should try to get into universal remotes. It has an LCD panel, nice feel to it, but I'm just not interested.

However - to my surprise - I love the the svelte mini-remote. It's perfect when the harmony gets out of sync. simple, uncrowded, featherweight, but adds value.
post #1733 of 2855
Hi All
I got a an RX-A710 in Nov. and it worked no problem with my old speakers but developed a constant shut down problem in May when i upgaded the speakers.
Had to take it in for warranty service. After a while they determined it was "Open Thermistors/Thermal Sensors" ( 2 of them) that was the problem.
They had to get them from Japan. Got it back but have not tried it yet, waiting for new speaker wires from Monoprice.
Wondering what could cause that problem and how to avoid it again. Think i left the power plugged in when changing wires to new speakers.
Could that cause the problem ? Or maybe defective or shipping damage that coincidentally showed up after i changed speakers ??
I did double check, couldn't find any problem with my speaker wiring job after first 3 shutdowns when i had to reinitiallize receiver to start it.
I had some of the new speakers checked out ( Polk Monitors Series 2) and they are ok. I checked them all myself first and meter shows
all about 3.8 ohms even though they are rated 8 ohm - that made me wonder. Service guy told me each individual speaker is 8 ohm
but with crossover, speakers in parallel that's why reading at the terminals is lower. Would it be safer to set receiver to 6 ohm instead of 8 ?
Any disadvantage to that ? Thanks for any advice.
post #1734 of 2855
I have the RX-A2010 receiver. I am upgrading my speaker setup to a 7.1 for home theater. The speakers consist of Klipsch reference line:

Front: RF-62 II
Center: RF-52 II
Surrounds: RF-42 II

Will this receiver power these ok or do I need to look at adding an amp into the mix?
post #1735 of 2855
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Originally Posted by cbragwel View Post

I have the RX-A2010 receiver. I am upgrading my speaker setup to a 7.1 for home theater. The speakers consist of Klipsch reference line:
Front: RF-62 II
Center: RF-52 II
Surrounds: RF-42 II
Will this receiver power these ok or do I need to look at adding an amp into the mix?

My RX-A2010 AVR is driving Klipsch RF-7ii's, RC64ii, and two Klipsch Quintets for the rears. (12D powered sub has its own amp). I left room to add an amp if I thought it would be necessary, but so far I can't imagine I will. No distortion. The 2010 has pre-outs, so you can always add that later. Put everything together without the amp and listen for awhile, see what you think.
post #1736 of 2855
Don't set the receiver to 6 ohm. The 720 will handle lower impedance no problem. The 6 ohm switch is a limiter and doesn't really do anything but limit your dynamics, which is not a good thing. You are better off keeping it 8 ohm and limiting the max volume so you don't drive the amp into clipping, set the max volume to 0 or +5, not 16.5 which it is defaulted. The 720 can handle a 2 ohm load just not at high volumes. If you are playing it very loud above 0 on the volume, it is not the receiver. You need a separate amp. If it is shutting off at low volumes it is either the receiver, the wiring or one of your speakers might be bad. If it shuts off at low volumes disconnect all your speakers and see if it does it. If it doesn't add your speakers back one at a time to check for speaker or wiring problems.

Speakers are dynamic and vary their impedance by frequency. So it doesn't matter what the speaker is rated or reads on an ohm meter. Most will drop below 8ohm and many below 4ohms at certain frequencies. Their are many different ways to rate a speaker impedance but in reality it is a single number that doesn't tell the whole story.
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Just ordered a RX-A2010 to upgrade my existing RX V663. I'm reading through this thread to pick up on all you guys have learned. Looking forward to getting it and setting it up.
My system Diagram and picture links are in my sig (updating the diagarm later today)
post #1738 of 2855
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Originally Posted by lflorack View Post

Just ordered a RX-A2010 to upgrade my existing RX V663. I'm reading through this thread to pick up on all you guys have learned. Looking forward to getting it and setting it up.
My system Diagram and picture links are in my sig (updating the diagarm later today)

I upgraded from the 671 to the 2010 recently, big difference.
post #1739 of 2855
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Originally Posted by audiosounds View Post

The other thing is play it from an ipod, I know you are trying to stream from your computer but as someone else said the Yamaha dock works pretty flawlessly, I think the manufacturer suggests the YDS-12 for the rx a2010.

I'm upgrading from an RX-V663 to an RX-A2010 and have been using a YDS11 iPod doc. It works great! Do you (or anyone else) know that this doc wil work on the new receiver? I've seen that they recommend the YDS-12 but was curious. I'll know soon enough anyway, but just wondering.
Edited by lflorack - 9/9/12 at 9:20am
post #1740 of 2855
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Originally Posted by lflorack View Post

I'm upgrading from an RX-V663 to an RX-A2010 and have been using a YDS11 iPod doc. It works great! Do you (or anyone else) know that this doc wil work on the new receiver? I've seen that they recommend the YDS-12 but was curious. I'll know soon enough anyway, but just wondering.
Just a FYI....if your A2010 is connected to your home network you may not even need a dock at all if you are using an iPod Touch/iPad/iPhone. Yamaha's excellent app streams everything directly from the device itself and thus I have not used our YDS-12 in months. It's just so handy to have complete control right in your hand wherever you are. Knowing what I know now, if I did not already have a wireless iDevice I'd forget about about dock and use the money toward an iPod Touch. My $0.02.
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