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post #1981 of 2854
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Originally Posted by Dr. Crash View Post

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Do you know if the A2010/A3010 have something equivalent to Audyssey's Dynamic EQ? I cannot figure that out (I think Dynamic DRC is like Dynamic Volume but not EQ). I was watching a movie at low volume at night on a Denon and Dynamic EQ was pretty awesome to bring the surrounds back. I'd love to have that experience at night when kids are in bed.

If you accept that the surrounds should be boosted when listening below reference level (which is one of the principles behind Audyssey Dynamic EQ, and I believe it's correct), then almost everyone sets their surrounds too low because they watch movies well below reference. My movie watching level is a pretty constant -10dB (adjusted for how loud a particular track is recorded), so I set my surrounds about 2dB higher than YPAO would set them. If night time watching is -30dB (for example), then store a second setup with the surrounds boosted even more.

The RX-A1010 and above can store two speaker "patterns", which include individual levels and other tweaks, and can be assigned to a SCENE for quick selection. So you can have a day time pattern and a night time pattern. If you're typically listening at one of two volume levels then you don't really need the continuous automatic adjustment that Audyssey DEQ gives you.

It's a pity though that Yamaha only included two speaker patterns now that memory is so cheap. Older models used to have 6 "system memories" to store 6 completely different setups that could be recalled with one button on the remote.
post #1982 of 2854
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

Who told you not to worry about the impedance setting of the amplifier??
The rest of your post wasn't that clear. Sorry
But I think you should set the amplifier to 6 ohms. See page 16 of your manual.



I'm a little worried about wrecking both the amp and the speakers so I asked around the forum from the speaker manufacturer and was told on more than one occasion by several (now frustrated members) I was worrying too much about impedance.
I'm a little hung up on it because of the manual. I've read it numerous times and refer to it frequently.
I have a fair bit of confidence in what they're saying but can't shake my concerns.
That's where the question of having a separate amp came in. I know I'll be adding on eventually, I was hoping to confirm if is required now of if it can wait until the new speakers are set up in a larger room.
post #1983 of 2854
I recently upgraded from my old RX-V2500, my third Yammie Rx, to a new RX-A3010. (So I'm at least somewhat familiar with the gear.) My 3010 has a REALLY bad habit. If I have the volume set to any decent level, e.g. >-20, AND I switch inputs, say from the satellite receiver to the BR player, the unit sends a brief, ear-splitting and dangerous HF signal through some or all of my speakers (can't tell which). The first time it happened I was convinced it blew out every tweeter it hit. I was lucky...it didn't. (Edit: It also tripped the 3010 off.) It happened again the next time I did the switching maneuver. So now I have to mute the 3010's volume before switching (active) inputs. That's an okay work-around...but it still represents a serious potential problem.

I'd really hate to lose my Aerial 7B's to this little bug. Does anyone have an idea about the cause of this problem? Have you seen it referenced anywhere in this or other forums? Did I get a lemon?

I did ask our resident expert, Ross Ridge, this question. Here is his response.

"You might end up having to contact Yamaha about this. I haven't heard of this problem problem before, so I'm not sure I can help. You should also post this problem publically in case anyone else has. If I had to guess then it sounds like the problem is caused by the receiver is either incorrectly interprets the format the audio or whether or not its HDCP encrypted. The only setting I can think of that would affect this is the decoder mode ([On Screen] -> Input -> -> [UP] -> Decoder Mode). If it's set to DTS the receiver might incorrectly assume that the digital audio format is DTS and play the noise. Another thing to try would be to configure your Blu-Ray player and satellite box to all the audio decoding and pass mulit-channel PCM to the receiver."

I'm going to fool around with Ross's recommended trials. Anyone else have this issue?
post #1984 of 2854
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Originally Posted by Mudslide View Post

I recently upgraded from my old RX-V2500, my third Yammie Rx, to a new RX-A3010. (So I'm at least somewhat familiar with the gear.) My 3010 has a REALLY bad habit. If I have the volume set to any decent level, e.g. >-20, AND I switch inputs, say from the satellite receiver to the BR player, the unit sends a brief, ear-splitting and dangerous HF signal through some or all of my speakers (can't tell which). The first time it happened I was convinced it blew out every tweeter it hit. I was lucky...it didn't. (Edit: It also tripped the 3010 off.) It happened again the next time I did the switching maneuver. So now I have to mute the 3010's volume before switching (active) inputs. That's an okay work-around...but it still represents a serious potential problem.
I'd really hate to lose my Aerial 7B's to this little bug. Does anyone have an idea about the cause of this problem? Have you seen it referenced anywhere in this or other forums? Did I get a lemon?
I did ask our resident expert, Ross Ridge, this question. Here is his response.
"You might end up having to contact Yamaha about this. I haven't heard of this problem problem before, so I'm not sure I can help. You should also post this problem publically in case anyone else has. If I had to guess then it sounds like the problem is caused by the receiver is either incorrectly interprets the format the audio or whether or not its HDCP encrypted. The only setting I can think of that would affect this is the decoder mode ([On Screen] -> Input -> -> [UP] -> Decoder Mode). If it's set to DTS the receiver might incorrectly assume that the digital audio format is DTS and play the noise. Another thing to try would be to configure your Blu-Ray player and satellite box to all the audio decoding and pass mulit-channel PCM to the receiver."
I'm going to fool around with Ross's recommended trials. Anyone else have this issue?

Well, I can hear a noise on my front left channel speaker every time I switch inputs on my A1010. I usually reduced the volume level while switching inputs, so the noise is not that loud. Yes, it is very annoying and as you I'll also give it a try to the recommendation that you received and I'll report back. Please do the same.
post #1985 of 2854
I will try the speaker patterns. Center and sub are boosted too and I will adjust them. It is a shame that YPAO does not have Dyn EQ. They have the best DSP modes of all and the YPAO calibration sounded great out of the box unlike Audyssey's which I am still trying to get right.
post #1986 of 2854
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Originally Posted by MAGHUNTER View Post

Just tried again and still not working. All other stations connect just fine. I too prefer the 1.fm stations though. Still a bummer!

1.fm stations working as of yesterday.
post #1987 of 2854
Can anyone comment on the video processing of the a1010? I came across this review which basically says it does no improvement on anything higher than 480i

http://www.hometheater.com/content/yamaha-aventage-rx-a1010-av-receiver-page-2


I was trying to find a Denon 2312 at the Best Buys and ran out of luck, but came across this a1010 at a pretty good deal. I was hoping to run the signal from my AT&T U-verse HD receiver through this and then onto my Panny 60ST50, but if it is just going to push the signal through without processing it'd be pointless to even hook up to the cable box.
post #1988 of 2854
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Originally Posted by buening82 View Post

Can anyone comment on the video processing of the a1010? I came across this review which basically says it does no improvement on anything higher than 480i
http://www.hometheater.com/content/yamaha-aventage-rx-a1010-av-receiver-page-2
I was trying to find a Denon 2312 at the Best Buys and ran out of luck, but came across this a1010 at a pretty good deal. I was hoping to run the signal from my AT&T U-verse HD receiver through this and then onto my Panny 60ST50, but if it is just going to push the signal through without processing it'd be pointless to even hook up to the cable box.
Two thoughts:

1) If you are specifically looking for video processing then you will want to look at the A20x0 or a30x0 series instead with their dedicated HQV 1900 Video processors.

2) Your Panasonic is no slouch and the benefits of a dedicated video processor will be minor, if even noticeable IMHO. Passing video through the a1010 (via HDMI) to the TV is a reasonable option and will not affect quality. Hint: this will enable the receiver to decode the audio on HD channels that provide 5.1 Dolby Digital. Hint #2: buy your HDMI cables from one of the forum sponsors instead of Best Buy; you will save $$$.
Edited by bluechunks - 11/16/12 at 12:07pm
post #1989 of 2854
I looked at the manual for my 2010 searching for info about flac files. All I could find was the definition of flac and that's it. Where can I get more info about flac files and how to play them on my 2010?
post #1990 of 2854
I am tempted by the a810. Would it be sufficient improvment on my Denon avr-786? This receiver has no hdmi input.

Thanks
post #1991 of 2854
Do you need different settings per source? If not a simple HDMI switch with a digital audio output may be all you need to add to your Denon. And if you want a new one, I have seen the 1010 for $399 as open box at best buy they can transfer it between stores.
post #1992 of 2854
I'm a newby here and have a new RX-A3010. Is there any benifit to using optical cables for my Blueray and Direct TV outputs into the AVR?


Yamaha RX-A3010
Def Tech BP-8060ST
Def Tech CS-8040BP
Def Tech SR-8040BP
post #1993 of 2854
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Originally Posted by ev1982 View Post

I'm a newby here and have a new RX-A3010. Is there any benifit to using optical cables for my Blueray and Direct TV outputs into the AVR?
If you are using HDMI from the sources, no.
post #1994 of 2854
Hello,

I am having a slight issue with the HDMI switching on my Yamaha RX-A1010. Here is the setup

1. Motorola Cable Box > HDMI to Yamaha HDMI Input 1 > Yamaha HDMI Output 1 > Panasonic Plasma HDMI Input 1

2. Panasonic Bluray > HDMI to Yamaha HDMI Input 2 > Yamaha HDMI Output 2 > Panasonic Plasma HDMI Input 2


When I select on my Logitech Harmony 1100 "watch cable tv" the yamaha receiver turns on, the tv goes to the correct input and sound works fine, perfect. Okay. When I select "watch bluray" the tv switches to HDMI input 2 then a second later will switch back to HDMI 1 and the bluray picture will show up. This is wrong. The only way I can see this happening is if the 2 yamaha HDMI outputs are not sending independent signals. I've tried moving my bluray hdmi on the yamaha to different inputs (3,4,5 etc etc) and still the issues remains. This is a problem because I have different picture settings for Cable tv than Bluray, hence they are connected to two different HDMI inputs on the TV.

Does anyone know what the issue is, and if there is a way to fix it? The logitech harmony remote is CORRECTLY configured to switch to all of the correct inputs, etc. Maybe it's a tv issue, but then again I really think its the yamaha, because the bluray picture will be on both TV inputs (HDMI 1 & 2) when it should ONLY be on HDMI 2.

Otherwise, what's really the point of having two HDMI outputs on the yamaha?


Thanks in advance for any insight.
post #1995 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rselah25 View Post

Hello,
I am having a slight issue with the HDMI switching on my Yamaha RX-A1010. Here is the setup
1. Motorola Cable Box > HDMI to Yamaha HDMI Input 1 > Yamaha HDMI Output 1 > Panasonic Plasma HDMI Input 1
2. Panasonic Bluray > HDMI to Yamaha HDMI Input 2 > Yamaha HDMI Output 2 > Panasonic Plasma HDMI Input 2
When I select on my Logitech Harmony 1100 "watch cable tv" the yamaha receiver turns on, the tv goes to the correct input and sound works fine, perfect. Okay. When I select "watch bluray" the tv switches to HDMI input 2 then a second later will switch back to HDMI 1 and the bluray picture will show up. This is wrong. The only way I can see this happening is if the 2 yamaha HDMI outputs are not sending independent signals. I've tried moving my bluray hdmi on the yamaha to different inputs (3,4,5 etc etc) and still the issues remains. This is a problem because I have different picture settings for Cable tv than Bluray, hence they are connected to two different HDMI inputs on the TV.
Does anyone know what the issue is, and if there is a way to fix it? The logitech harmony remote is CORRECTLY configured to switch to all of the correct inputs, etc. Maybe it's a tv issue, but then again I really think its the yamaha, because the bluray picture will be on both TV inputs (HDMI 1 & 2) when it should ONLY be on HDMI 2.
Otherwise, what's really the point of having two HDMI outputs on the yamaha?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
The super easy fix is to use a single HDMI cable between the Yamaha and the TV (receiver HDMI output 1 and the TV's input 1). The Yamaha will switch all inputs (cable box, Blu Ray, etc) to output 1.

The Yamaha has two HDMI outputs to drive two separate displays and not for two signal paths to the same display.

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Edited by bluechunks - 11/23/12 at 8:42am
post #1996 of 2854
I'm curious to know if any of you have used your front presence speakers with them at 60 degrees, as front wides, and if so your first impressions in this position.
post #1997 of 2854
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Originally Posted by rselah25 View Post

Hello,
The only way I can see this happening is if the 2 yamaha HDMI outputs are not sending independent signals. [...]
Otherwise, what's really the point of having two HDMI outputs on the yamaha?

In general AV receivers with two HDMI outputs don't support sending indpendent signals to each output and the RX-A1010 is no exception. The only exceptions are certain high-end 2012 models that include HDMI matrix switches, like the RX-A3020.

The point of having two HDMI outputs, as bluechunks said, is to drive two seperate displays. However, the fact that your receiver displays the same thing on both outputs won't prevent you from doing what you want to accomplish. You can still connect both outputs to your TV and use different settings on the TV for both inputs.

I don't know why your TV is switching inputs unexpectedly. Given that you misunderstood how your receiver works it's possible that this has led you to configure your Harmony remote incorrectly. You should to see if you can reproduce the problem with the remotes included with your receiver and your TV. If you can switch to AV2 using the Yamaha remote and then to input input 2 on the TV using the Panasonic remote and it doesn't switch back input 1 on the TV then it's likely something wrong with your Harmony remote.

If you still get the same problem using the manufacturer's remotes then it may be a problem with HDMI CEC. You can try disabling VIERA Link on your TV and/or HDMI Control on your receiver and see if that fixes the problem.
post #1998 of 2854
I have a few more questions with my A1010. I'm can't get my Android phone to recognize my a1010 on the AV Controller app. Refreshing the list on the home screen of the app only shows the demo receiver and Bluray. The network standby of my receiver is turned on as mentioned in the app information/help section. It says if it still won't recognize it to enter the IP address. I entered the IP address from the network info on my receiver into the app and it has a big yellow triangle with exclamation point next to the IP address that I saved. Its not even recognizing it with the IP address apparently. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

I'm also having issues with the receiver randomly dropping the connection when listening to Pandora. Its wired directly to a modem in the same cabinet the receiver is in, and my internet is through AT&T U-verse.

Thoughts?
post #1999 of 2854
By dropping pandora, do you mean it stops playing after several songs? If so, that seems to be an ongoing issue with pandora lately. Several people have made post about it. As far as the app problem, I had a similar issue when I initially installed it. Unfortunately I can't remember what I did. All I can remember is it had something to do with the address setting in the avr menu. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. I hope someone else chimes in with an answer for you.
post #2000 of 2854
Yeah, dropping connection after playing several songs. Is this an issue with Yamaha's and Pandora, or just in general with anything Pandora?

Hmm, wish you remembered what you did. I may have to tear into the manual a bit further and see if it has anything about IP address settings. The Gateway address on the phone matched that of the AVR, so not sure what it could be.
post #2001 of 2854
Hi, I have been an avid avsf reader. Have been on Energy/Jamo speakers and HK AVR254 forums so far. I am more of an HT Enthusiast rather than an Audiophile..
My current setup is 2xRC30 + 2xRC10 + Mirage Prestige 8" Sub + HK AVR254. Happy with speakers, but just an upgrade-itch for receiver.

Looking for help on new receiver choice ***Yamaha A1010/A2010 vs Pioneer Elite SC-55 vs Marantz SR5600***. Recently setup Pioneer elite (no D3 amp) VSX-60, and liking it so far. But I surely want to check out other options before I purchase/keep one of those.

I do not have installed but have spare speakers to use as heights/wides. I know Pioneer Elite can add virtual height/wide sounds in a 5.1 setup. Do Yamaha A1010/A2010 have that feature?

I love HK sound vs Denon that I tried a couple of times (running full Audyssey MultEQ XT as well). I like ligtly-processed sound (specially for music), compared to heavily processed/tweaked sound.

Quesitons below..

1- Which of these three choices would give sound comparable to HK sound? Marantz SR5006? Most folks vouch for Audyssey MultEQ XT, so how does YPAO compare with that? How important is YPAO RSC (of A2010) compared with normal YPAO (of A1010)..

2- I am aware Yamaha Aventage series does not have Dolbt ProLogic IIz or Neo:X for heights/wides.. Instead H/W speakers can be introduced with DSP mode on. So any views on H/W usage with Dolby iiz vs Yamaha DSP modes?

3- Any inputs on which ones people prefer - Pioneer Elite series (specifically SC-55) vs A1010/A2010?

4- I would like to have Wides more than Heights (form simulated effects I have seen on Elite VSX-60). Which of Pioneer/Yamaha would give me better heights/wides effects?

5- Or is there a view that folks liking Harman Kardon sound may not be happy with other receivers? Not upgrading is a better option, as only new features I am looking for are heights/wides (i.e. ProLogic iiz or Neo:X), internet-connectivity and YPAO/Audyssey... ???
post #2002 of 2854
Has anyone solved the problem of having pandora cut off after a few songs for no reason? I have a 2010.
post #2003 of 2854
Well I figured out my AV Controller app issue. I, uh, forgot to turn on wifi on my phone rolleyes.gif Stupid me. It works just fine now!

Has anyone figured out how to get the a1010 to turn ON when the TV gets turned on? My a1010 will turn off when I turn off the TV, but have to turn the a1010 on manually each time. I read through the manual and followed the steps on Pg 137, but the TV remote will not adjust the AVR volume nor will it turn on the AVR. My TV is a 2012 Panasonic ST50 plasma. ARC is turned on and Standby Sync is grayed out but says Through. I didn't adjust the TV Audio, but it was set to Audio 1. I'm using HDMI only from U-verse receiver to the AVR to the TV. The AT&T U-verse receiver is the only device connected to the AVR currently. Thoughts/suggestions?

Also, is it common for the Front L/R speaker size and Extra Bass to be grayed out in the Manual Speaker Setup when only Front L and R speakers are hooked up to the AVR? I'm pushing Polk Monitor 70 Series IIs (saving up for the rest of the system), and the bass pretty much sucks using the YPAO. I couldn't find an actual EQ in the manual speaker setup and with both the speaker size grayed out and set to Large as well as the Extra Bass option not available, I'm not sure how to get more bass out of these fronts. Considering each speaker has 4 - 6.5" speakers for a total of 8 drivers, I'd think I could get some bass out of them prior to hooking up a sub.
post #2004 of 2854
I've been going crazy trying to get an IR receiver/extender to work with my newly purchased Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A710 (got it as a closeout deal at the local BB).

I thought any IR receiver would work fine as they all seemed generic so I purchased one off monoprice - http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011009 and got the IR sender for good measure as well - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011009&p_id=8059&seq=1&format=2.

I plugged the IR Receiver into the top jack and IR Transmitter into the bottom one and nothing happened... tried switching them around in case that was the issue and nada.

I thought maybe the one of the cables was defective so I ordered a whole dual band repeater from monoprice - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011009&p_id=9895&seq=1&format=2

Just got that in today and still NO LUCK. I tried using the powered repeater and plugging the extra IR receiver & sender directly into the receiver.

Am I overlooking something, is there a certain type needed, or could it be an issue with the receiver??
post #2005 of 2854
I am looking for new front speakers for my RX-A2010.
So far it plays with old Dali 104, a fine pair of speakers but there are some minuses: poor bass, somehow dull and not melodical (in all kinds of music that I listen, jazz, classical, rock), irritating middle tones in rock music, like Red Hot Chilli Peppers, The Cult, you can place some sounds coming exactly from the speakers rather than from a musical scene (you can feel their presence in other words). What I like is their selectivity, I can pinpoint individual instruments, they are quite pleasant in acoustic music, wonderful brasses, drums etc.
So what I would expect from new speakers is quite strong bass background, but with well heard individual sounds (bass guitar for example), good 3D scene, a bit on the softer side. Rather clear sound (selectivity). I did some searching and came up with a selection of speakers: monitor audio rx8, focal 816v, b&w 683 or B&W CM9/CM8; PSB Image T6 or Synchrony 1, Klipsch RF-82 II, Oli Roth 50, Dynaudio Excite X32, Spendor A5, KEF Q700 or Q900. Do you have some personal experience with some of these speakers and could share your opinion? On saturday I am going to demo B&W 683 and CM9, but they do not have any of the remaining ones. They have Elac though.
And second thing, does subwoofer really add a lot to music? I wonder if I can live without one (in movies I could live without it). Of course I am going to test some, possibly B&W ASW610 that they have in the store.
My room is quite large (45 square meters, but a 1: 2 rectangle rather than a square), and guite high (3.5 meters).
post #2006 of 2854
Need some help with my 1010 which was just set up last month.

1010 connected to PS3 (via hdmi) and Mac Mini 2011 Mountain Lion (via HDMI). When I'm using the Mac to stream movies and music through Plex or iTunes, I am unable to change the DSP settings on the 1010. It only allows for Straight, try any other setting even 2 channel and the Yammie will display Not Available on the screen. Tried changing the setting through the ipad app and it still only says Straight on the screen. When I switch over to the PS3, I do not have this problem. Is there something stupid I did that locked the setting to Straight only, or is this something the Mac is doing?

Anyone else encounter this or can shed some light.
post #2007 of 2854
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Originally Posted by tipthefuture View Post

I thought any IR receiver would work fine as they all seemed generic so I purchased one off monoprice

I'm pretty sure only Yamaha's own devices will work with the Remote In/Out jacks at the back of the receiver. Unfortunately Yahama characters a lot more for their products than anything you can find on Monoprice.
post #2008 of 2854
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Originally Posted by buening82 View Post

Has anyone figured out how to get the a1010 to turn ON when the TV gets turned on?

Normally with HDMI CEC you need to turn on a source device, like a Blu-Ray player, to get the other devices to turn on automatically.
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Also, is it common for the Front L/R speaker size and Extra Bass to be grayed out in the Manual Speaker Setup when only Front L and R speakers are hooked up to the AVR?

Setting the speakers to small and the extra bass setting requires having a subwoofer connected to the system. Both these options redirect low frequencies to the sub and are meaningless without a subwoofer.

You can try using the tone controls or playing around with the Paramatic EQ options to get more bass.
Edited by Ross Ridge - 12/6/12 at 2:36pm
post #2009 of 2854
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Originally Posted by imlou View Post

When I'm using the Mac to stream movies and music through Plex or iTunes, I am unable to change the DSP settings on the 1010.

This is likely because your Mac is using a sampling frequency higher than 96 KHz. Your receiver doesn't have a powerful enough DSP to apply DSP effects at this sample rate. Configuring your Mac to use 96 KHz or less should solve this problem.
post #2010 of 2854
Does anyone have any suggestions for properly adjusting lip sync (auto or manual confusion) on an A710?
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