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post #2041 of 2469
12/11/12 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I just tried it on my pc and it does work on my 2010 as you have already stated. It does not work on my Mac or iPad though. Guess I'll have to start running windows on my Mac. Why does Yamaha keep this a secret? Does a third party run it? Just curious.

It's not really a secret, but meant for installers.
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post #2042 of 2469
12/12/12 at 3:30pm
Just got my hands on a 710 and trying ypao . Originally had a 5.1 setup but got my hands on two more speakers. Now ypao doesn't seem to want to setup 7.1. Any suggestions?

Nick
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post #2043 of 2469
12/12/12 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by ndrj69 View Post

Just got my hands on a 710 and trying ypao . Originally had a 5.1 setup but got my hands on two more speakers. Now ypao doesn't seem to want to setup 7.1. Any suggestions?
Nick

I think you need to go into manual setup and turn those speakers on.
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post #2044 of 2469
12/12/12 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by diadumenianus View Post

Mostly a lurker here. I searched this thread pretty good but found nothing helpful. I am unable to decode audio properly on my RX-A2010. I have no video issues. I have a 5.1 setup Left/Right/Center/LR/RR and a sub. All input devices are connected via HDMI. Firmware version 1.08 on A2010.
I have several devices connected to my receiver only some of which seem to work properly. It is entirely possible I have something misconfigured. I can bitstream DTS and Dolby Digital (ac3) from both my Roku and BoxeeBox without issue. However, I cannot bitstream DTS-HDMA from Boxee. This worked flawlessly with my Yamaha RX-V1800. The same source files output Lossless work fine in VLC on a PC. I hear nothing at all. The decoder shows off when I input DTS-HDMA or Dolby TrueHD.
I also have a PS3 (slim) connected to the A2010 set to bitstream audio. When I playback something like the LOTR BD (DTS HDMA 6.1) main movie I hear no voices through the center speaker but I hear music and everything else is sounds fine. The receiver info screen shows DTS input. Some of the intro parts in Dolby Digital play fine and the decoder shows Dolby Digital. The decoder shows PCM. If I set the PS3 audio output setting to only Dolby Digital 5.1 only by disabling all other output option, and switch from bitstream to LPCM I hear the voice channel through the center speaker. The receiver shows PCM. The receiver info screen shows DTS input. I can bistram DD 5.1 sources like Ocean's 13 BD just fine and the decoder shows Dolby Digital and the audio is fine.
I also have Sony BDP-S590 blu-ray player input to A2010. When playing back LOTR BD no matter what I do I cannot hear the voice channel. The decoder only shows PCM even though I try to bitstream to it. I can playback DD 5.1 sources like Ocean's 13 BD just fine and the decoder shows Dolby Digital and the audio is fine.
I can decode DD 5.1 from DirecTV just fine as well. I have two other BD players so I will test with those.
Why can't the A2010 decode DTS 6.1 audio from my PS3 or BD player?
Why can't the A2010 decode DTS-HDMA from BoxeeBox, PS3, or BD player?
Any and all help is much appreciated.

When you are watching movies on your PS3, make sure your Yamaha receiver is on "Straight" sound mode.
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post #2045 of 2469
12/13/12 at 3:57am
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

I think you need to go into manual setup and turn those speakers on.

Turned them on but YPAO will still not run the course and show results...

Nick
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post #2046 of 2469
12/13/12 at 8:20am
When using the analog sound inputs on the RX-A1010 does it bypass the internal DAC when using Straight or Pure Direct?

Can it do Analog > Analog or does it do Analog > Digital > Analog?
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post #2047 of 2469
12/14/12 at 11:46am
Pure Direct should bypass the AVR's internal DAC.
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post #2048 of 2469
12/14/12 at 11:56am
I think the answer to this question isn't known. It could be a pure analogue path, but the documentation doesn't explicitly say this.

If you want an analogue-only path for sure then you can use the mulitchannel inputs. The receiver only has a two channel ADC, so the mulitchannel input is guaranteed to be analogue straight through to the speakers.
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post #2049 of 2469
12/14/12 at 12:23pm
It was just something I was wondering. I haven't been bothered by the sound of a CD-player using the analog CD inputs. But I should be able to hook up the player to the multichannels front L and R input and bypass the DAC? Sounds like it's worth a try.
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post #2050 of 2469
12/15/12 at 8:48pm
Hi guys, I just received the a2010 from Amazon and had a quick question. Is there a reason that the front display of the receiver isn't showing anything when I plug in the receiver and press the power button? I haven't hooked up the receiver yet since I'm waiting for my speakers to arrive, but I connected the power cable and pressed the power button. It sounds like it cycles and when I connected the hdmi out to my tv I had the piano image on the screen and it said "please wait". However, the front display on the receiver never lit up and there is nothing at all displayed on it. You can't even tell that it is on. Is there some type of film covering it that I somehow missed or what?
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post #2051 of 2469
12/15/12 at 10:04pm
The front display should show something, including the current input, the volume level and speaker level, though it might be different the first time you turn it on.

It's possible that the display has been dimmed, but that's not the default. In a bright room you might not be able to see the display if its been dimmed all the way. If this is the the problem then probably someone else had your receiver before you and you should reset it to its factory defaults. The instructions are near the end of the manual in the Advanced Setup section.

Otherwise it looks like the receiver is defective and you'll need to return it for a new one.
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post #2052 of 2469
12/15/12 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by jsnake21 View Post

Hi guys, I just received the a2010 from Amazon and had a quick question. Is there a reason that the front display of the receiver isn't showing anything when I plug in the receiver and press the power button?

Is it in Pure Direct mode? There's a button for that on the right side of the front panel.

If that's not it, it doesn't sound good.

He's not going to be able to do a factory reset I don't think if he can't see the display panel.
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post #2053 of 2469
12/15/12 at 10:23pm
So, I have a 2010 and just checked mine. The display only dims to -4. It doesn't turn off.
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post #2054 of 2469
12/15/12 at 10:31pm
If the display has been dimmed all the way to -4, but he can't see the display because he's in a bright room, then he can still do the factory reset by turning off lights, closing windows, and/or moving the receiver to a darker room.

If that's not the problem then there's probably nothing he can do other than exchange the receiver.
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post #2055 of 2469
12/15/12 at 11:03pm
Thanks guys, I'm not attempting this in a bright room, its in my man cave. I will check the pure direct mode, but I'm not holding my breath. I mean, it didn't do anything but make a loud click when I attempted to power it on, like I said, until I hooked it up to the tv I couldn't tell that it was on at all. Thanks again for the responses. I'll mess with it some more when I get home.
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post #2056 of 2469
12/16/12 at 2:19am
Hi

I'm looking into buying a RX-V1071 (or maybe RX-A1020). Is there an easy and quick way to control subwoofer level or turn it even off?

Generally for music but also for Movies I want to be able to turn down or off the sub in order to save peace with the neighbours.

It seems I could maybe use patterns with a different speaker setup and then assign them tomdifferent scenes, like having DVD scene with subwoofer, one with turned down level,sub and onemwithout sub?

Is there an other way to control sub level and usage ad-hoc?

Thanks,
Phil
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post #2057 of 2469
12/16/12 at 9:34am
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If the display has been dimmed all the way to -4, but he can't see the display because he's in a bright room, then he can still do the factory reset by turning off lights, closing windows, and/or moving the receiver to a darker room.
If that's not the problem then there's probably nothing he can do other than exchange the receiver.
Is it possible that the receiver was updating the firmware when initially turned on? I can't remember if that is what takes place at initial power up. Just a thought.
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post #2058 of 2469
12/16/12 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Is it possible that the receiver was updating the firmware when initially turned on?
On my 3020 the firmware update happened all at once. After power up you either get a working unit with front display or a brick with "ROM ERROR" on the display.
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post #2059 of 2469
12/16/12 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by pmcl77 View Post

It seems I could maybe use patterns with a different speaker setup and then assign them tomdifferent scenes, like having DVD scene with subwoofer, one with turned down level,sub and onemwithout sub?

There are only two different speaker patterns, so you'd only be able to choose from two of those configurations. Adjusting the bass tone control should reduce the subwoofer volume but maybe not as much as you want. Other than that, the only think I can think of would be to manually adjust the volume on the subwoofer itself.
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post #2060 of 2469
12/18/12 at 1:31pm
thanks for your answer! I think two setups are enough to calibrate one with and one without subwoofer...

So my final choice boils down to either RX-V1071 (which should be almost the same as RX-A1010) or the RX-A2010. Besides more power the latter offers also a 4-band parametric EQ for the sub and individual crossover frequencies for each speaker. At least thats the most significant difference for me.

I can get the RX-V1071 for about 720€/950$ and the RX-A2010 for about 990€/1300$.

Front: Magnat Vector Needle (4 Ohm, 200W rated/320W max, 20-35 kHz, 90 dB). This is the 3-way tower.
Center: Magnat Vector Needle 10 (4-8 Ohm, 70W/100W, 38-30kHz, 90 dB)
Surround: Magnat Vector Needle 11 and I also have the Magnat Vector Dipol (both about the same data as the center)
Sub: Magnat Omega 250

I'm not sure wheter the plus on power and the more flexible speakersetup sub-wise will be worth the 350$ extra. I also don't know if there's a significant difference in the quality of the sound?

I also consider to order a Pioneer SC-2022 just to compare, but I tend towards one of the Yamahas.

What do you think?

Thanks!

PS: I'm replacing an old Sony STR-DA50ES
Edited by pmcl77 - 12/18/12 at 1:55pm
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post #2061 of 2469
12/20/12 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Thanks man! It works for my RX-A1010. Scene are now way more easy to set using this.
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It doesn't work on my 810. I tried Windows, Mac, iPad. I can connect to the normal web control, just not the /setup/ one. I was really looking forward to this!
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post #2062 of 2469
12/20/12 at 11:02am
I have had my A710 for a while but haven't had the time to really tweak it till now. It is set up to a LG 47LM600 through the TV's HDMI 1 port. I have a comcast HD box in the AVR HDMI1 and a PS3 going into HDMI 2.

The problem I am running into when watching tv or movies on standard definition the picture will not fill the entire screen but when I switch to HD the picture takes up the whole screen. Is this common or is there a setting to correct it? Here is an example:
Untitled by bry1865, on Flickr

Untitled by bry1865, on Flickr
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post #2063 of 2469
12/20/12 at 11:39am
Typically the non HD channels are in 4:3 and most of the new shows are in 16:9. So you ahve a 16:9 box showing a 4:3 pciture that is only filled in with a 16:9 info. Essentially you are showing a box in a box. If the box was hooked up directly to the TV\Tv had direct coax then the TV could 'fill' or 'zoom'. You can still do this if you want on your TV. Otherwise In Setup > Video> Processing there should be Aspect Ratio. You can try forcing one but no gurantees
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post #2064 of 2469
12/20/12 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by bcarroll01 View Post

I have had my A710 for a while but haven't had the time to really tweak it till now. It is set up to a LG 47LM600 through the TV's HDMI 1 port. I have a comcast HD box in the AVR HDMI1 and a PS3 going into HDMI 2.
The problem I am running into when watching tv or movies on standard definition the picture will not fill the entire screen but when I switch to HD the picture takes up the whole screen. Is this common or is there a setting to correct it? Here is an example:
Untitled by bry1865, on Flickr

Untitled by bry1865, on Flickr

If this is happening with your cable/sat box, it is normal. Mine does the same thing. If I tune into an SD broadcast, I get black bars--if I tune into the same channel but with the HD broadcast (so 653 instead of 53 on my cable box), then the image fills the screen entirely.

If it's happening with discs, then the discs are likely non-anamorphic or 4:3 DVDs (I have a player that windowboxes 4:3 content on DVD or from Netflix no matter what I try, while another DVD player will give me a pillarbox for 4:3 content).
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post #2065 of 2469
12/20/12 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Sven37 View Post

It doesn't work on my 810. I tried Windows, Mac, iPad. I can connect to the normal web control, just not the /setup/ one. I was really looking forward to this!

Sorry to hear that. I used my Windows 7 laptop and everything worked fine.
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post #2066 of 2469
12/20/12 at 3:57pm
It does happen occasionally on my ps3 on standard def dvds. I guess more of a reason to go to all blu ray.
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post #2067 of 2469
12/20/12 at 7:15pm
Those are likely non-anamorphic (not "enhanced for 16x9 TVs"). I don't have many of those and when I come across one, I use the zoom feature on my projector (if that really messes up PQ, then I watch it windowboxed).
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post #2068 of 2469
12/20/12 at 11:04pm
Is there any easy way to tell a dvd will be like this before buying it?
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post #2069 of 2469
12/20/12 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by bcarroll01 View Post

Is there any easy way to tell a dvd will be like this before buying it?

Hi, yep, I use www.dvdcompare.net. It tells you the difference between different regions' DVD's as well as if it's anamorphic or non-anamorphic.

It saved my hide (and pocket) a few times!

Will
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post #2070 of 2469
12/21/12 at 8:35am
They tend to be old DVDs (if the films are widescreen) or DVDs with 4:3 ratios (which, in some cases, will appear with black bars on all sides, as happens with some of my players and not others).
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