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post #2101 of 2855
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Originally Posted by davethestalker View Post

Which is the ideal connection method for a subwoofer?

Just use the LFE connection for the sub. Make sure the other speakers are all set as SMALL in the receiver, turn the sub's own crossover to max to let the receiver handle the crossover.

If you want to run two subs just get a Y-splitter so you can connect the LFE output to both subs (some receivers have two sub outputs, but in many cases they're just using an internal splitter to send the same signal to both outputs).
post #2102 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Just use the LFE connection for the sub. Make sure the other speakers are all set as SMALL in the receiver, turn the sub's own crossover to max to let the receiver handle the crossover.
If you want to run two subs just get a Y-splitter so you can connect the LFE output to both subs (some receivers have two sub outputs, but in many cases they're just using an internal splitter to send the same signal to both outputs).

A response is always appreciated. The core question remains. Why is there a conflicting connection method between a low powered sub and a slightly higher powered sub?
post #2103 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Just use the LFE connection for the sub. Make sure the other speakers are all set as SMALL in the receiver, turn the sub's own crossover to max to let the receiver handle the crossover.
If you want to run two subs just get a Y-splitter so you can connect the LFE output to both subs (some receivers have two sub outputs, but in many cases they're just using an internal splitter to send the same signal to both outputs).

A response is always appreciated. The core question remains. Why is there a conflicting connection method between a low powered sub and a slightly higher powered sub?
post #2104 of 2855
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Originally Posted by brwsaw View Post

Sorry, I should have reread before posting.
I was looking for an excuse to try Apple TV.

No worries.

I have an Apple TV connected to my 2010.

I think you'll like it.
post #2105 of 2855
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Originally Posted by davethestalker View Post

A response is always appreciated. The core question remains. Why is there a conflicting connection method between a low powered sub and a slightly higher powered sub?

You'd have to ask the manufacturer, but I suspect the answer doesn't really have anything to do with the power of the subwoofer. You'd only want to use the speaker level inputs of a sub that has both LFE and speaker level inputs if you're using a receiver that doesn't have its own bass management capabilitiy.

The first subwoofer you mentioned is part of a much cheaper package then the other two, and because of the smaller size of the satellites has an even greater need of some sort of bass management. Someone purchasing the $200 package is much more likely to hook it up to a cheap old receiver than someone buying the $1000 or $1300 packages.
post #2106 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Try downloading the Receiver Manager software linked to in this thread. You can do all your setup through that.

Does the Receiver Manager work with the 810?
post #2107 of 2855
Sorry, I don't know if Receiver Manager works with the RX-A810. It's possible that it does, but the 2010 version of Receiver Manager didn't support the RX-A800.
post #2108 of 2855
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

Does the Receiver Manager work with the 810?
There's also another version http://192.168.1.XXX/setup/ type in your IP address with/setup/ at the end. I'm not surebifbit works with your 810, but it's work a shot. Good luck.
post #2109 of 2855
FYI, I noticed on the Yamaha support site that a firmware update for the A2010 (v1.29) is available for download that addresses the Sirius issues. I downloaded and installed it via USB as it doesn't appear to be showing up yet on the Yamaha's on-screen notification.

Edit: it looks like the A1010 and the A3010 were also issued updates to v1.29.
Edited by bluechunks - 12/29/12 at 8:20am
post #2110 of 2855
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

FYI, I noticed on the Yamaha support site that a firmware update for the A2010 (v1.29) is available for download that addresses the Sirius issues. I downloaded and installed it via USB as it doesn't appear to be showing up yet on the Yamaha's on-screen notification.
Edit: it looks like the A1010 and the A3010 were also issued updates to v1.29.

You are correct A1010 firmware update 1.29 is available as well.

Thanks for the heads up!
post #2111 of 2855
I agree! Just bought A720 and they still advertise that it works with YBA-10 when, in reality, they dropped Bluetooth altogether. What is happening Yamaha?
post #2112 of 2855
I can't seem to find a menu setting which would allow me to run HDMI-1 (PS3) audio through the speakers and optical out (for Turtle Beach headphones) simultaneously. Please tell me I've been overlooking something and that function has been omitted from the A710. I'm trying to not have to take my PS3 out of 7.1 and run the sound through the optical (limited to 5.1) just to use a headset for late night racing or movies. I was able to use multiple outputs on my deceased RX-V2200.
post #2113 of 2855
I can't find where I can set the subwoofer crossover on my 2010, I can set it for all the other speakers, can someone tell me how to set it?
post #2114 of 2855
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Originally Posted by davethestalker View Post

I can't seem to find a menu setting which would allow me to run HDMI-1 (PS3) audio through the speakers and optical out (for Turtle Beach headphones) simultaneously. Please tell me I've been overlooking something and that function has been omitted from the A710.

Not only has this been omitted from the RX-A710, it's been omitted from every AV receiver made. No AV receiver will convert HDMI audio to digital optical out.
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I'm trying to not have to take my PS3 out of 7.1 and run the sound through the optical (limited to 5.1) just to use a headset for late night racing or movies.

Optical doesn't support more than 5.1, so you're going to run into this limit with your headphones whatever you do.
post #2115 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Adam James View Post

I can't find where I can set the subwoofer crossover on my 2010, I can set it for all the other speakers, can someone tell me how to set it?

The subwoofer crossover is set on the other speakers. What doesn't get sent to the other speakers gets "crossovered" into the subwoofer output.
post #2116 of 2855
Well, that's bad news, thanks Ross frown.gif

How about this one. Straight Mode vs Pure Direct Mode. I've widened my mains so they are a similar distance from each other as I am to them. They are approximately 100" inces from one another. My chair is not dead smack center of the listening area. I'm just maybe 6 inces off center to the right. I'm listening to music on my Dish Hopper DVR or music on my iPhone via the Yamaha app.

When in Straight Mode, the primary vocals are heavy to the right. So much so that I'm swapping speakers to see if there might be something wrong with one of them. Or playing with balance levels. Both speakers are set at zero. There is no PLII or Extended Surround. Just simple Straight Mode playing PCM music.

When I'm in Pure Direct, the vocals are brought in to almost dead center, using my 50" Kuro as a reference point. Pure mode has a significant drop in volume. Obviously there is no sub running (using the sub out), its disabled. Music is just really crisp, practically no bass at all out of the Def Tech SM450's.

What's causing Straight to have such a drastic expansion of vocals and is there anything I can do about that? Of course, I could bring the mains back to the immediate left/right of the display, with a couple of inches to spare. But, isn't it better to have a near equal distance for a larger soundstage?

I sit about 90" from the display.

Thanks
post #2117 of 2855
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Originally Posted by davethestalker View Post

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When in Straight Mode, the primary vocals are heavy to the right. So much so that I'm swapping speakers to see if there might be something wrong with one of them. Or playing with balance levels. Both speakers are set at zero. There is no PLII or Extended Surround. Just simple Straight Mode playing PCM music.

Try turning off EQ (set PEQ Select to Through) to make sure that's not the reason. Also check if the speaker distance are the same.
post #2118 of 2855
If I hook up a TV using the 1010's HDMI output (originally from the cable box), can I watch it with the receiver plugged in but not turned on? I have only one HDMI cable, so I'm unable to test it for myself.
post #2119 of 2855
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Originally Posted by clovenhooves View Post

If I hook up a TV using the 1010's HDMI output (originally from the cable box), can I watch it with the receiver plugged in but not turned on? I have only one HDMI cable, so I'm unable to test it for myself.

So, you will have to run an HDMI cable from the cable box to one of the A1010 inputs, then you use another HDMI cable from the A1010 to your TV. Yes, the Yamaha will keep feeding the TV even when the receiver is off. That includes video and audio.
post #2120 of 2855
Thanks. I was determining that while you were replying, by reading about Standby Passthrough. Unfortunately, I probably need to use an external power conditioner (which turns attached devices on/off), so in the long run, I likely will need a TV with HDMI out (TVs seem in standby mode by default when technically off).
post #2121 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Try turning off EQ (set PEQ Select to Through) to make sure that's not the reason. Also check if the speaker distance are the same.

I put PEQ into Through, vocals still float to the right. If I move my head to the left side of my chair back, vocals are centered. I've moved the right speaker further right by about 6 inches, as well as toe'ing the right in a bit more so both are aimed straight at me. Those adjustments did not completely correct it. When in Direct, I'm hearing vocals slightly left of center. I'm going to run YPAO before I just bring them back in near the display.

It's kinda not fair for my family because I'm tuning this right at me. The chair to my left doesn't hear much of the right speaker. The couch to my right doesn't hear much of the left speaker. Nobody else would really notice or be irritated that the vocals are to the right of center tongue.gif

I'm going to try turning both in more so the left/right seats can hear a bit more.
post #2122 of 2855
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Originally Posted by clovenhooves View Post

Thanks. I was determining that while you were replying, by reading about Standby Passthrough. Unfortunately, I probably need to use an external power conditioner (which turns attached devices on/off), so in the long run, I likely will need a TV with HDMI out (TVs seem in standby mode by default when technically off).

Actually, it will depend on the power conditioner. As you mentioned there are few with switched outlets, but also with "always on" outlets. So, you can hook your receiver to one of them and you will be good to go.

Cheers!
post #2123 of 2855
I wouldn't want my receiver (or any modern piece of A/V equipment) on a switched outlet. Everything is designed to be in standby mode these days. For example most things have flash memory and you never know when it's being updated. I think routinely cutting power to a device is asking for trouble.
post #2124 of 2855
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Originally Posted by davethestalker View Post

I put PEQ into Through, vocals still float to the right. If I move my head to the left side of my chair back, vocals are centered. I've moved the right speaker further right by about 6 inches, as well as toe'ing the right in a bit more so both are aimed straight at me. Those adjustments did not completely correct it. When in Direct, I'm hearing vocals slightly left of center. I'm going to run YPAO before I just bring them back in near the display.
It's kinda not fair for my family because I'm tuning this right at me. The chair to my left doesn't hear much of the right speaker. The couch to my right doesn't hear much of the left speaker. Nobody else would really notice or be irritated that the vocals are to the right of center tongue.gif
I'm going to try turning both in more so the left/right seats can hear a bit more.

Dave,

If you want a wider listening space, you can always run YPAO with multi-position and angle measurements. That way your other listening positions will be mostly in the sweet spot as well. YPAO should account for your distance issues you're having as well. Good luck!
post #2125 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I wouldn't want my receiver (or any modern piece of A/V equipment) on a switched outlet. Everything is designed to be in standby mode these days. For example most things have flash memory and you never know when it's being updated. I think routinely cutting power to a device is asking for trouble.

Agreed that I wouldn't want a receiver on a switched outlet, but I see no harm in switching your power amps and subs. Why not save on electricity? It's not like your subs need a firmware update tongue.gif
post #2126 of 2855
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

No worries.
I have an Apple TV connected to my 2010.
I think you'll like it.

Hey, Cap Vid, do you need an outboard DAC for Apple TV?
post #2127 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wangdang View Post

Hey, Cap Vid, do you need an outboard DAC for Apple TV?
No. I guess you might if you wanted to listen to it in Zone 2 discreetly. But I just use Party Mode.
post #2128 of 2855
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

No. I guess you might if you wanted to listen to it in Zone 2 discreetly. But I just use Party Mode.

Hey, never thought of that- great idea!biggrin.gif
post #2129 of 2855
If anyone happens to be in the market for an RX-A2010 I just listed one that is in great condition in the classifieds frown.giffrown.gif
post #2130 of 2855
Here's something I haven't been able to find answered in the manual:
On the back panel, the input for audio 1 has a little (2 TV) under it
And audio 2 has a little (3 cd) under it

What do these 2 things mean?

Thanks in advance
Bill
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