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post #2221 of 2855
Hi all, I am having an issue with my RX-A710. I turned on my TV this morning and every time any on screen GUI such as volume, comes up my plasma totally pixelates it? The folders in the menu do not display properly either? Everything was fine last night.
Here is what I have done so far to trouble shoot.

Tried a different HDMI cable from the Receiver to the TV (no difference)
Ran a direct HDMI from a cable box, Blueray player, apple TV and no issues with the video.

I Do not have another TV to try the receiver with but everything seems to point to the video output of the receiver going bad on me? This only occurs when the volume is changed. I will post some picks. I thought it was my plasma at first but all sources run perfectly when not put through the receiver.

Any ideas anyone? mad.gif
post #2222 of 2855
Try unplugging the receiver for 10 minutes or so.
post #2223 of 2855
Ross, you seem to really know these units, you want to tackle my above question about 2 subs and how the configurations are processed
post #2224 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Try unplugging the receiver for 10 minutes or so.

Thanks Ross, Did that and to my surprise when I plugged it back in it told me that an update was available. Tried over the internet and failed. Did a recovery from hard boot using source direct whilst new firmware was on USB stick in the front.

All is back to normal now :-) I thought for a while my Pioneer Elite Plasma had bitten the dust..........

Any idea what would have caused this?

Cheers
post #2225 of 2855
Sorry, I don't really know how Yamaha receivers derive the two subwoofer outputs. It may be that there isn't a lot of low frequency information in the surround channels of the soundtrack you're testing this out with to redirect to the rear subwoofer. Are your surround and surround back speakers set to small?
post #2226 of 2855
Everything small
post #2227 of 2855
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Originally Posted by pogal View Post

Any idea what would have caused this?

My guess is that the volume control overlay bug is caused by the receiver getting confused by a nonstandard resolution or timings. The problem you had updating the firmware over the Internet seems to be rather common problem lately, I guess some bug crept into the firmware at some point. People used to have trouble with updating over the Internet, but it just failed to update, it didn't all but brick the receiver.
post #2228 of 2855
I come to the a3010 from a rx-v3000 and there is one menu item I remember using for calibration that I can't seem to find with my 3010

On the rx-v3000 there was a low frequency test function, and it was for the subwoofer(s), and you could actually set the frequency of the test tone, anywhere from 35hz to 250 hz
The manual stated that this test was to adjust the volume of the sub so it matched the volume of other speakers

Does the a3010 utilize anything lie this, or is that old school and I'm not understanding the new way of doing this (manually please, not ypao)

Please advise
bill
post #2229 of 2855
There's no special low-frequency test tone any more, but you can still turn on test tones manually and use a meter to set speaker levels (including the subwoofer).

If you really want a specific frequency test tone (which can be good for checking that the sub and mains are in phase), there are plenty of free test tones you can download and play from a CD or USB stick.
post #2230 of 2855
Thanks for the info!!!
post #2231 of 2855
Sorry to bother you guys but can someone help me out with setting a scene on the 2010 where video would be shown from a cable box on the TV via HDMI, and audio from a turntable via Phono would be played. Thanks in advance, and sorry if its been mentioned already.
post #2232 of 2855
Im on 1.08 firmware on my 3010, can someone tell me if I will lose any user settings by updating to the new firmware?
I mean, scenes settings, video adjustment settings, ypao settings / calibration (will I need to run ypao again?), gains, crossovers, etc...

I mean, will the new firmware update touch / change ANY user settings I currently have?

Thanks.
post #2233 of 2855
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Originally Posted by jburns2685 View Post

Sorry to bother you guys but can someone help me out with setting a scene on the 2010 where video would be shown from a cable box on the TV via HDMI, and audio from a turntable via Phono would be played.

That's not possible, unfortunately. The closest you can come to doing this would be to connect your cable box to your TV using component cables in addition to HDMI to the receiver.
post #2234 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

That's not possible, unfortunately. The closest you can come to doing this would be to connect your cable box to your TV using component cables in addition to HDMI to the receiver.

Thanks I guess that's not a big deal as long as my cable box will output in both HDMI and Component. I just don;t understand how my old Marantz receiver(sr4002) had this feature yet none of these newer much more expensive models offer it.
post #2235 of 2855
No
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Originally Posted by simps1982 View Post

Im on 1.08 firmware on my 3010, can someone tell me if I will lose any user settings by updating to the new firmware?
I mean, scenes settings, video adjustment settings, ypao settings / calibration (will I need to run ypao again?), gains, crossovers, etc...

I mean, will the new firmware update touch / change ANY user settings I currently have?

Thanks.
, No, you should not lose any settings.
But I would backup on the receiver through the advanced menu. And also backup the configuration file through the web interface to your computer.
post #2236 of 2855
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Originally Posted by jburns2685 View Post

Thanks I guess that's not a big deal as long as my cable box will output in both HDMI and Component. I just don;t understand how my old Marantz receiver(sr4002) had this feature yet none of these newer much more expensive models offer it.

My rx-v3000 had the same feature, where u could (on the remote) hit a video source then quickly punch in an audio source, unfortunately that's no longer the case,
But the work around is these handy scene functions

Using the phono is tricky due to the need to use that specific input due to line level boost issues, but if you get an external pre-amp it should be a breeze

Set a scene on cable where u get cable spires, but the audio is analog (the phono), connect the phono outputs to the cable analog inputs
post #2237 of 2855
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Originally Posted by jburns2685 View Post

Thanks I guess that's not a big deal as long as my cable box will output in both HDMI and Component. I just don;t understand how my old Marantz receiver(sr4002) had this feature yet none of these newer much more expensive models offer it.
That's a complaint that most of us have. It seems like such a small thing to ask for. It also takes away the neatness of having just one cable connected:(
post #2238 of 2855
I just came across an interesting scenario I was actually looking at an old video tape on a VCR and whenever I tried to fast-forward scan my picture would just disappear.
I tested it with another monitor and it's not the VCRs fault, and it only happens when connected they the 3010 what setting might I have to change so that when I'm doing fast-forward on a tape my screen doesn't go blank?
post #2239 of 2855
I want to add an on screen button for Pandora radio to my harmony one for a Yamaha rx-a2010. Can anyone help me with this?
post #2240 of 2855
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I want to add an on screen button for Pandora radio to my harmony one for a Yamaha rx-a2010. Can anyone help me with this?
I figured out that the net button will scroll through various inputs(one of which is Pandora), but I would really like to have a separate button for this function. Any ideas out there?
post #2241 of 2855
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I figured out that the net button will scroll through various inputs(one of which is Pandora), but I would really like to have a separate button for this function. Any ideas out there?
After a couple of hours I realized I just needed to set up an activity named Pandora using the net button as an input. Doh!!!!!!!
post #2242 of 2855
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

I just came across an interesting scenario I was actually looking at an old video tape on a VCR and whenever I tried to fast-forward scan my picture would just disappear.
I tested it with another monitor and it's not the VCRs fault, and it only happens when connected they the 3010 what setting might I have to change so that when I'm doing fast-forward on a tape my screen doesn't go blank?

I had some kind of similar issue with a Sony DVD/VHS player connected to my 2010. The colors and resolution were funky when I tried to play a VHS tape via composite to AVR, and HDMI to my TV. I tried tweaking the upscaling/conversion options but gave up on it when I got my new Blu-ray player. Never figured out what the problem was.
post #2243 of 2855
This was never an issue with my old rx-v3000 receiver
post #2244 of 2855
Update, this seems to be A General HDMI issue (losing handshake) and nothing wrong with the Yamaha,
Gonna need to connect a composite directly to the tv
Edited by billmich - 1/29/13 at 5:29am
post #2245 of 2855
So I was playing with the manual set up of my speakers tonight.

I used the YPAO to initial set everything up then I went into the manual settings.

I changed my fronts and center from large to small, my distances were fine.

My levels showed:

sub 0.0db
left +0.5db
center -1.0db
right +0.5db
rs +5.5db
ls +6.5db

now when i go into the parametric eq settings an pick manual. I set the frequency of the L,C,R,RS,LS all to 78.7hz

My question is what is Q?

My other question is what should the gain be set at? I noticed it is different on all speakers.

I did import the YPAO flat eq and used that as the baseline to adjust from, I didnt change the gain setting.
post #2246 of 2855
If I connect a subwoofer via Sub Out, will the AVR still output through that connection when in stereo mode? (I don't currrently have a subwoofer-specific cable with which to test that.)
post #2247 of 2855
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Originally Posted by clovenhooves View Post

If I connect a subwoofer via Sub Out, will the AVR still output through that connection when in stereo mode? (I don't currrently have a subwoofer-specific cable with which to test that.)

Yes for "2 ch stereo." No for direct mode.
post #2248 of 2855
I installed a new amp on the weekend and once I confirmed the setup ran YPAO. The 4 channels connected to the new amp show that they are out of phase.
I've had lots single error messages in the past and shrugged them off after checking the cables. I'm wondering if anyones had a similar result (RX-A1010) after connecting an amp (all channels on the amp at once) and how obvious it would be if they were out if phase.
I hadn't listened to the setup for about a month and when connecting amp moved/swaped out several speakers. I am assuming the questionable sound is placement related not a result of the amp or reciever.
All the wiring was confirmed and reconfirmed before the power conditioner got plugged in, they're not wired out of phase.
Any suggestions?
Edited by brwsaw - 1/29/13 at 7:44pm
post #2249 of 2855
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Originally Posted by cdnjeepin View Post

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now when i go into the parametric eq settings an pick manual. I set the frequency of the L,C,R,RS,LS all to 78.7hz

My question is what is Q? My other question is what should the gain be set at? I noticed it is different on all speakers. I did import the YPAO flat eq and used that as the baseline to adjust from, I didnt change the gain setting.

The PEQ has 7 filters for each speaker, and each filter has a variable centre frequency, variable gain (how much it boosts or cuts the sound at that frequency) and variable Q factor (the width of the filter, with low Q values meaning a wide filter and high Q meaning a narrow filter).

You said you set the frequency of all speakers to 78.7Hz. That means you changed the centre frequency of the first PEQ filter for eachspeaker to 78.7Hz. You don't want to do that unless there's a reason to, as it was probably set to a different frequency by YPAO.

You're not likely to improve things by playing with the manual PEQ unless you're sure what you're doing. Although you can always reset things by copying from the YPAO results, or just clearing the manual settings.
post #2250 of 2855
not sure this is the right place to ask this buit here goes:
i just got an RX-A1020. i have it hooked up to an LG projector. i get great picture and sound when i have my computer hooked up to the receiver via HDMI on any input. but when i try to play a blu ray through my panasonic bluray player i only get sound. anyone have any ideas? if i hook the bluray player to the projector via HDMI and toshlink to the receiver every works great. having toshlink and hdmi hooked up to the receiver at the same time didn't help.
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