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post #2251 of 2584
1/29/13 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by tsaville View Post

Yes for "2 ch stereo." No for direct mode.

Thanks. That leads to another question - what would happen re the subwoofer cable when the AVR is in multi-channel mode and yet (as occurs with some shows) the TV audio output is only coming through the L and R speakers? (Assuming that isn't just a bug with my unit.)
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post #2252 of 2584
1/30/13 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by clovenhooves View Post

Thanks. That leads to another question - what would happen re the subwoofer cable when the AVR is in multi-channel mode and yet (as occurs with some shows) the TV audio output is only coming through the L and R speakers? (Assuming that isn't just a bug with my unit.)

I believe if you have it set to STRAIGHT decode, it will only use the LR channels. If you use one of the DSP modes (Standard Cinema, for example), you will hear sound from all channels, including the sub.
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post #2253 of 2584
1/30/13 at 9:07am
Okay. Just wondering if all Aventage 1010 DSP modes create a separate subwoofer signal from a Dolby Digital signal that's missing the center channel.
Edited by clovenhooves - 1/30/13 at 9:12am
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post #2254 of 2584
1/30/13 at 2:19pm
What media server should I be using to stream the FLAC files on my PC laptop? PSM (PS3 Media Sever) transcodes & streams them just fine to the PS3. But, not to my A710. They do show up in the list (unlike WMP), but are not playable.

These AVR's are supposed to he able to play these files. Is there a specific server we should use?

EDIT:
Universal Media Server (based on PSM) plas FLAC just fine with simple default settings!!!!
http://www.universalmediaserver.com/
Edited by davethestalker - 1/30/13 at 2:46pm
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post #2255 of 2584
1/31/13 at 3:39am
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Originally Posted by brwsaw View Post

I installed a new amp on the weekend and once I confirmed the setup ran YPAO. The 4 channels connected to the new amp show that they are out of phase.
I've had lots single error messages in the past and shrugged them off after checking the cables. I'm wondering if anyones had a similar result (RX-A1010) after connecting an amp (all channels on the amp at once) and how obvious it would be if they were out if phase.
I hadn't listened to the setup for about a month and when connecting amp moved/swaped out several speakers. I am assuming the questionable sound is placement related not a result of the amp or reciever.
All the wiring was confirmed and reconfirmed before the power conditioner got plugged in, they're not wired out of phase.
Any suggestions?
I had that phase problem with one speaker(no separate amp) and running YPAO in multiple positions cleared the problem. That was a suggestion that came from another poster. Seems odd that it would be all of your speakers though.
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post #2256 of 2584
1/31/13 at 7:55pm
It was the speakers.
All the wiring was correct and now its not.
They sound better that's really all that matters...enjoying them now

I'm thinking the preouts on the RX-A1010 or the input on the amp must be wired wrong, What else could it be? I eliminated human error before I plugged the power center back in (the first time after installing the amp) ,YPAO confirmed they were out of phase and I checked all the cabling again, I swapped the cables at the speakers and YPAO says its all good and it sounds proper.
Edited by brwsaw - 2/2/13 at 1:40pm
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post #2257 of 2584
2/3/13 at 4:36pm
Hope someone can help: have a new rx-v1073 and can't get it to display on our old Sony Wega TV. Cables seem correctly attached, correct channel selected, no display. Is there something I'm missing? I can't find any answers in the pdf'd manual I have for it.
Thanks.

From: puzzled
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post #2258 of 2584
2/4/13 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by donnad2008 View Post

Hope someone can help: have a new rx-v1073 and can't get it to display on our old Sony Wega TV. Cables seem correctly attached, correct channel selected, no display. Is there something I'm missing? I can't find any answers in the pdf'd manual I have for it.

Which TV exactly? If it has no HDMI inputs then you won't be able to display anything on the TV. Most of the new Yamahas will only output video over HDMI (page 29 of the RX-V1073 manual).

I hadn't noticed the 1073 model before, but it seems to be the same as the RX-A1020 (minus the infamous 5th foot rolleyes.gif). Up to the 1020 you need HDMI to the display. The 2020/3020 still support analog video.
Edited by kriktsemaj99 - 2/4/13 at 6:41am
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post #2259 of 2584
2/5/13 at 9:01pm
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Which TV exactly? If it has no HDMI inputs then you won't be able to display anything on the TV. Most of the new Yamahas will only output video over HDMI (page 29 of the RX-V1073 manual).

I hadn't noticed the 1073 model before, but it seems to be the same as the RX-A1020 (minus the infamous 5th foot rolleyes.gif). Up to the 1020 you need HDMI to the display. The 2020/3020 still support analog video.

Thank you very much. Our Wega is about 8 years old but can't remember model off-hand (top model, however), no HDMI. Page 29 says that it will work if directions followed. Apparently we need something to do with "up-scaling" but don't know what it is or how to do it. Store is giving us run-around and we are ready to politely toss it back...2 1/2 days trying to get it working!

thanks, kriktsemaj99!

DonnaD
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post #2260 of 2584
2/5/13 at 10:54pm
You should return the RX-V1073. Without a display that supports HDMI you won't be able to see the on-screen display (OSD) which required for a lot of operations. This effectively makes the RX-V1073 unusable to you.

Either upgrade to a RX-V2073/RX-A2020 or get a 2011 Yamaha (RX-Vx71/RX-Ax10) which supports using the OSD using analoge video. I think you'd have to go even farther back with other manufacturers' models find one that support OSD over analogue, though some low end models may not support an OSD at all.

Note that no AV receiver will be able to convert HDMI to analogue video. You'll need to hook up all your components using analogue video cables.

Alternatively you may want to consider getting a TV that does support HDMI
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post #2261 of 2584
2/6/13 at 12:00am
Anyone else having problems with USB audio on the A810?

I have tried several different USB flash drives filled with plain old mp3 files and most of the times I can't even get the directory listing to load.

Usually the receiver just hangs at "Loading contents" or something, some times it manages to display the first 10 or so files and then hangs if I try to scroll to the next 10 files.
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post #2262 of 2584
2/7/13 at 9:53pm
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Originally Posted by donnad2008 View Post

Thank you very much. Our Wega is about 8 years old but can't remember model off-hand (top model, however), no HDMI. Page 29 says that it will work if directions followed. Apparently we need something to do with "up-scaling" but don't know what it is or how to do it. Store is giving us run-around and we are ready to politely toss it back...2 1/2 days trying to get it working!

thanks, kriktsemaj99!

DonnaD
Does your TV have a DVI input???

I have an older Sony TV, KV-34XBR800 hooked up to a RX-A720 via an HDMI to DVI adapter. Works fine, menus and all.

Please try and post your tv model #.
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post #2263 of 2584
2/8/13 at 1:35pm
Does the 7-channel stereo setting override programming that was made for Dolby Digital 5.1?
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post #2264 of 2584
2/8/13 at 6:47pm
Anyone else have problems with their USB when connected to an ipod or iphone? The USB connection works but during audio playback theres now chirps/high pitch sounds every few minutes.
Same I phone. Same music from 3 sources (comp/note/iphone). Only does it over USB.
Its not volume related. I can turn up the volume higher with no issues from the other sources. I'd assume if I let it keep happening it will damage my speakers. Tried an Ipod with the same cable...same results.
Unplugging it didnt help.
Gonna get a new cable.
Any other ideas?
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post #2265 of 2584
2/8/13 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by clovenhooves View Post

Does the 7-channel stereo setting override programming that was made for Dolby Digital 5.1?

The first thing 7-channel stereo does is mix everything down to two channels, then it plays the same thing through each pair of speakers. So you've lost the discrete surround sounds that you had in the 5.1 track. The only real use for 7-channel stereo is a party where you want to fill the room with sound.
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post #2266 of 2584
2/9/13 at 11:40am
Is there anyway to have gapless streaming? Even playing .cue files still has gaps between tracks. Albeit, they are slight and don't matter for tracks that do not seamlessly transition into each other.

How can we stream directly from an external USB hard drive? When I connect it, the 710 doesn't want to play it.
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post #2267 of 2584
2/9/13 at 11:59am
Officially your receiver doesn't support hard disk drives, but it would probably work if you formated the drive using FAT32 instead of NTFS. Newer versions of Windows refuse to format drives bigger than 30GB using FAT32, but third party utilities and other operating systems can format FAT32 drives up to 2TB in size.

There's nothing you can do to eliminate the gap between sound files, other than joining sound files into a single file. A playlist like a CUE file doesn't count. Using a USB drive won't eliminate the gap either.
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post #2268 of 2584
2/9/13 at 5:39pm
My Samsung laptop has bluetooth. I saw that the Yamaha bluetooth adapter YBA-10 has been discontinued. What bluetooth adapter are y'all using to play music off your pc through your Aventage receiver? Does anybody know if the Rocketfish Bluetooth music receiver RF-BTR212 or the Belkin F8Z492TTP Bluetooth Music Receiver will work?
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post #2269 of 2584
2/9/13 at 5:53pm
I don't think many people used Bluetooth to stream audio from their PCs to their receivers. It was ment for use portable devices like phones. People who want to stream music from their PCs connect their receivers to their home networks and use DLNA .

Using a generic device like either of those two Bluetooth music receivers would work.
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post #2270 of 2584
2/10/13 at 2:04pm
Picked up an open box customer return 2010 last night at Best Buy. Got it for $705 out the door, with 5 year Geek Squad protection included. It comes with a three year Warranty from Yamaha as well. It replaces a Marantz SR5002 receiver that I had been using as a processor . I had a Marantz MM9000 5x150 watt external amplifier powering my Marantz SR 5002. I was curious to see whether the internal amps of the 6010 would be enough to satisfy me, after being used to the separates Marantz combo. I can answer that in one word...............YES INDEED !! I really like the power and finesse of this receiver. I will NEVER hook an amp up to it ! It would be a waste of time, and just more cable clutter. I am amazed at the power of the 6010. I did one thing that made a very significant difference to the sound of the 6010. The power cable that came with the receiver looked like dental floss. Very thin !! LOL I replaced it with the power cord from my MM9000 amplifier. The difference in the sound is amazing. Even my wife noticed it! Especially in the low end !! I would highly encourage others to upgrade there power cord as well. I hope that Best Buy lost the original, and gave me one off of a PC or printer . LOL I would hate to think that everyone got the same size cord as the one they gave me last night.

I found the 6010 relatively easy to set up, and thankfully did not have to refer to the "online manual" very much. Although I did do a firmware update, I have yet to use any networking features. There is one question that I do have . I am only running a 5.1 system. I am very confused as to what option to use in the Power Amp assign mode. Right now I have the "basic" mode checked off. Am I choosing the right option ?? I am not quite sure. I am getting plenty of power. This thing is gonna loosen the shingles on my roof. LOL By runnig 5.1 , are there any other default settings that I must change? I have already ran the AUTO calibration feature. I only see a 5.1 setup in the manual calibration screen. Any help would be appreciated as far as the right choice for my 5.1 setup in the Power Amp asssign mode. Once again, I currently have basic mode checked.

THANKS !!
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post #2271 of 2584
2/10/13 at 2:15pm
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Any help would be appreciated as far as the right choice for my 5.1 setup in the Power Amp asssign mode. Once again, I currently have basic mode checked.

You shouldn't need to change anything in the Power Amp assign unless you intend to Bi-Amp your front speakers, add front or rear presence speakers, or add Zone 2 or 3 speakers.
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post #2272 of 2584
2/10/13 at 2:22pm
Thanks for the quick response Captain !!

So I take it the basic option is the correct one ??
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post #2273 of 2584
2/10/13 at 7:50pm
Yes smile.gif
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post #2274 of 2584
2/11/13 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by jrhooper1963 View Post

Picked up an open box customer return 2010 last night at Best Buy. Got it for $705 out the door, with 5 year Geek Squad protection included. It comes with a three year Warranty from Yamaha as well. It replaces a Marantz SR5002 receiver that I had been using as a processor . I had a Marantz MM9000 5x150 watt external amplifier powering my Marantz SR 5002. I was curious to see whether the internal amps of the 6010 would be enough to satisfy me, after being used to the separates Marantz combo. I can answer that in one word...............YES INDEED !! I really like the power and finesse of this receiver. I will NEVER hook an amp up to it ! It would be a waste of time, and just more cable clutter. I am amazed at the power of the 6010. I did one thing that made a very significant difference to the sound of the 6010. The power cable that came with the receiver looked like dental floss. Very thin !! LOL I replaced it with the power cord from my MM9000 amplifier. The difference in the sound is amazing. Even my wife noticed it! Especially in the low end !! I would highly encourage others to upgrade there power cord as well. I hope that Best Buy lost the original, and gave me one off of a PC or printer . LOL I would hate to think that everyone got the same size cord as the one they gave me last night.

I found the 6010 relatively easy to set up, and thankfully did not have to refer to the "online manual" very much. Although I did do a firmware update, I have yet to use any networking features. There is one question that I do have . I am only running a 5.1 system. I am very confused as to what option to use in the Power Amp assign mode. Right now I have the "basic" mode checked off. Am I choosing the right option ?? I am not quite sure. I am getting plenty of power. This thing is gonna loosen the shingles on my roof. LOL By runnig 5.1 , are there any other default settings that I must change? I have already ran the AUTO calibration feature. I only see a 5.1 setup in the manual calibration screen. Any help would be appreciated as far as the right choice for my 5.1 setup in the Power Amp asssign mode. Once again, I currently have basic mode checked.

THANKS !!

What is a 6010?
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post #2275 of 2584
2/11/13 at 9:16am
2010 ! Sorry typo .
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post #2276 of 2584
2/11/13 at 12:39pm
With the 1010, is there a way to program a button to change the speaker configuration?
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post #2277 of 2584
2/11/13 at 1:19pm
You can assign one of two saved speaker configurations or "patterns" to a scene. By default scenes don't remember the speaker pattern, so you'll have to configure the scene first to enable it and possibly enabe or disable other things you want or don't want it to remember.
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post #2278 of 2584
2/11/13 at 6:47pm
I am now using my new 2010 as processor. I hooked up my Marantz MM9000 5x150 watt amp to it after work today. I had sworn up and down that I was going to sell my amp if I bought the 2010. But the thought of what this Yamaha would do with a THX certified amp hooked up to it was too overwhelming. The Marantz and the Yamaha make a sweet sounding pair.
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post #2279 of 2584
2/11/13 at 8:40pm
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You can assign one of two saved speaker configurations or "patterns" to a scene. By default scenes don't remember the speaker pattern, so you'll have to configure the scene first to enable it and possibly enabe or disable other things you want or don't want it to remember.

I tried doing it via a scene earlier, without success. You seem to be contradicting yourself (in the second sentence). Could you please be more precise?
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post #2280 of 2584
2/12/13 at 6:12am
He's saying that you'll need to configure which items are restored when you select a scene. See page 97 of the 1010 manual PDF. You have to go into the Scene menu and find the Detail page. Then make sure "Speaker Setup" is checked, which means that the setting pattern is one of the items saved/restored when you save/load a scene. You'll find that Speaker Setup is currently unchecked, so you have to change it.
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