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post #331 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

Yeh. Your not wrong!! scratching my head how to even edit a scene..I go into one of the default scenes, "load", then "detail", scroll down to 'input", then it doesn't allow you to arrow across and change the input!

Similarly, editing a new scene..what the?..how do you even load it to add anything? How do you edit scenes??

This is ridiculous...

It helps to have a notebook and a pen. Write down all the settings you want to have for the scene and then use the various setup menus to select DSPs and so on. The notebook is because nothing appears on the OSD before you load the settings. When I first tried to program the BD/DVD Scene 1, it kept reverting to a pre-selected DSP of "Drama". Eventually I managed to switch the pre-set to "STRAIGHT" but I'm not sure I can recall the procedure from memory. I do know that it involved selecting the first scene but NOT moving "up" on the GUI. Instead, I selected "STRAIGHT" (nothing showed on the screen, either the display or the front panel of the A1000), went "up" on the GUI and selected LOAD (don't remember the exact sequence). After that (and a 30 min. long diatribe of expletives directed at the GUI), using Scene 1 to turn on the AVR works fine--it selects the proper input, the proper DSP setting (STRAIGHT) and saves a few steps. I've programmed a few other scenes since and they work fine once done. But man is it ever a painful setup.
post #332 of 2855
OK..now I get it. You can't edit directly. You've got to select what you want, then "Save" it into the scene... Of course it seems impossible to select "pure direct", then save it, because by selecting pure direct, you automatically turn off the front GUI and TV GUI...
post #333 of 2855
I would really love a pure direct button on the web browser (if there are any yamaha software engineers reading this forum)
post #334 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

I would really love a pure direct button on the web browser (if there are any yamaha software engineers reading this forum)

Android and IOs5 Yamaha apps have it... It's under options below the sliders.
post #335 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Android and IOs5 Yamaha apps have it... It's under options below the sliders.

Cool. Just icing on the cake for me. My yammie is part of a music desktop workstation..everything is computer based/controlled..

I'm finding the web browser a bit lame compared to the ipad app...

I have to say though that this new RX1010 receiver is super quiet..even sitting up on my desk. Absolutely NO fan noise. Plenty of power... It really is an impressive piece of gear
post #336 of 2855
I love my 3010 aside from one flaw with it, YPAO.. It just doesn't cut it for me. I really wish they could of adopted the audyssey system with the Aventage line. For the cost of the receivers in this line, there isn't a reason they couldn't.
post #337 of 2855
Yeh. I agree. I tried it, then pretty much set everything to manual... use you own ears... they never lie

I really miss the old receivers with multi channel "manual set up" (on the fly)...where you could adjust each channel and speaker individually via separate buttons on the remote. This was really cool..standing in the middle of the room and setting the volumes manually that way...

Funny I sold an old 773 NAD 9 months ago with that function to a guy pining for this sort of control... Now I miss it!!

Still I guess "automatic" everything is all the rage these days...
post #338 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

I really miss the old receivers with multi channel "manual set up" (on the fly)...where you could adjust each channel and speaker individually via separate buttons on the remote. This was really cool..standing in the middle of the room and setting the volumes manually that way...

There's still a dedicated LEVEL button on the remote (under the flap).
post #339 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

Keep in mind the 3010 and the 1010 have different video processors which might account for different outcomes. I offer this as speculation as I'm more an audio than a video "perfectionist". Just a thought.

In any event, it seems you made a good choice for your particular video needs. Let the games begin (cue Roman trumpet music).

A good point, one I'd overlooked. Since it's considered a negative, I'd be surprised if the 3010 suffered while we po' 1010 folks dodged a bullet, but with different spec I suppose anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

@ Ayton

So, are you keeping your A1010?

Oh yes, as long as I'm not misinterpreting my results. In most ways this is the best amp for me.

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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

Q4/ Is there any way to get an info display of the playing movie soundtrack codec up on the main LED screen or even within the browser? I'm used to seeing this "light up" on previous receivers...

Cheers

Amazing how many people this is catching out! Yamaha may want to rethink it next time. Pressing Info on your remote or the receiver will cycle through until you see what you're looking for. Once set it stays put.
post #340 of 2855
How to setup a scene..... Turn input knob to desired input (AV1 for eg), select DSP mode, press and hold Scene button until "saved" shows up on the RCVR display. Easy!
post #341 of 2855
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

There's still a dedicated LEVEL button on the remote (under the flap).

What "flap"..? I must have a different remote (RAV449). I have a 1010....
post #342 of 2855
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Originally Posted by KVH View Post

How to setup a scene..... Turn input knob to desired input (AV1 for eg), select DSP mode, press and hold Scene button until "saved" shows up on the RCVR display. Easy!

...But there are only 4 scene buttons. And only for DSP. Real "scenes" would allow different Audio inputs to match with the one video output. Or even no output at all...allowing choice of of "pure direct"(say with "radio")...

And they could all be easily edited within the GUI..
post #343 of 2855
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Jacksmyname, yes ... menu -> Function -> Display Set -> Short Message -> Off (default is "on").

Thank you !
post #344 of 2855
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Originally Posted by DM2006RI View Post

AFAIK the on-screen volume can be turned off on any of the X10 models. Don't know why they didn't issue a firmware update to do it on last year's models but it drove me crazy enough that I sold my 700 and bought a 710 instead.

Thank you!
On screen volume displays that can't be disabled would drive me nuts also.
post #345 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post


...But there are only 4 scene buttons. And only for DSP. Real "scenes" would allow different Audio inputs to match with the one video output. Or even no output at all...allowing choice of of "pure direct"(say with "radio")...

And they could all be easily edited within the GUI..

The 4 scenes on the front are for DSP and input. What you want to do you can, kinda. With radio you can choose a video source along with audio 1&2. I believe you hit option on the remote while in the input and then choose "background video" I think. Going by memory, not in front of a RCVR now.

The scenes are meant for quick access to input, DSP and will also turn on the RCVR if off to the input needed.
post #346 of 2855
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Originally Posted by KVH View Post

The 4 scenes on the front are for DSP and input. What you want to do you can, kinda. With radio you can choose a video source along with audio 1&2. I believe you hit option on the remote while in the input and then choose "background video" I think. Going by memory, not in front of a RCVR now.

The scenes are meant for quick access to input, DSP and will also turn on the RCVR if off to the input needed.

But the 4 scenes with their own buttons on the remote can be as fully programmed as any of the other 8 that are accessible via the OSD. It is not limited to selecting a DSP setting (though it can be just that if one wishes). I've modified the BD/DVD scene for more than just the DSP setting (though it was a royal pain to do so as the instruction manual is clear as mud on the topic).
post #347 of 2855
Just ordered the RX-A810. I am joining the Yammy family
post #348 of 2855
Welcome aboard.
post #349 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

What "flap"..? I must have a different remote (RAV449). I have a 1010....

Never noticed that before, but the 1010 is indeed missing the extra buttons that the 2010 and 3010 have. But you can still set levels manually from the menu or from a PC using the Receiver Manager program.
post #350 of 2855
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Originally Posted by KVH View Post

The 4 scenes on the front are for DSP and input. What you want to do you can, kinda. With radio you can choose a video source along with audio 1&2. I believe you hit option on the remote while in the input and then choose "background video" I think. Going by memory, not in front of a RCVR now.

The scenes are meant for quick access to input, DSP and will also turn on the RCVR if off to the input needed.

The only "Option" I can pull up in the radio input are Tone control, Adaptive DRC, Cinema DSP, Dialog Lift, Volume Trim, Enhancer..

No "background video"..
post #351 of 2855
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post


The only "Option" I can pull up in the radio input are Tone control, Adaptive DRC, Cinema DSP, Dialog Lift, Volume Trim, Enhancer..

No "background video"..

Then try going to the setup menu, input, choose radio, press up on the remote.
post #352 of 2855
Recently received my 1010 and the sub out is nowhere near what my previous receiver did. I have turned everything up in the receiver and on the sub and still get nowhere near the sound I had.

With the previous receiver I set the sub to -15db I have put it up to +12, changed the YPAO results manually from -10db to 0db. (side note) YPAO set my sub to 160hz?? Reason I am thinking an issue with the sub out.

Is it possibly bad sub outputs from the receiver? I tired both sub-outs and a new Monoprice cable.

The only other thing it could be is the sub, but seems unlikely since I only replaced the receiver. Any thoughts would be great.

Thanks in advance!
post #353 of 2855
Try using different volume settings on your sub (the actual sub gain switch) and re-run YPAO. That might solve the level discrepancy issue. As for the 160hz crossover, YPAO gave me that setting as well on my A1000 (was surprised by that), but I moved it to 80hz in the manual settings (this could, in theory, cause some loss of EQ efficacy, but looking into the individual EQ settings per speaker, I found that YPAO had applied EQ below 160 hz anyway--not sure what's going on, but it sounds fine to me at 80hz, so I leave it there).
post #354 of 2855
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

Try using different volume settings on your sub (the actual sub gain switch) and re-run YPAO. That might solve the level discrepancy issue. As for the 160hz crossover, YPAO gave me that setting as well on my A1000 (was surprised by that), but I moved it to 80hz in the manual settings (this could, in theory, cause some loss of EQ efficacy, but looking into the individual EQ settings per speaker, I found that YPAO had applied EQ below 160 hz anyway--not sure what's going on, but it sounds fine to me at 80hz, so I leave it there).

I tried that and still nothing, I moved the YPAO manually to 100hz, and the sub volume from -15db to +12. Still stumped.

I may have to hook up the old AVR and see if it makes a difference to rule out the sub.
post #355 of 2855
I just upgraded my fronts and added presence speakers. So I had to run the YPAO again.

I set my sub to 1/2 Volume, phase at 0 and the freq. at max and made sure the sub is on and not in auto. After running the YPAO I went into manual speaker mod and set all speakers to Small and the Bass Crossover to 80Hz. The YAPO set my sub's level to 0. which is what you want.

I have an A810 and I added Polk RTiA7's for my fronts. I thought I would need an Amp but so far I'm very pleased at how the 810 drives my 7.1 with presence. The presence's really add to the front. A much fuller sound!
post #356 of 2855
@ gce

I am also planning to upgrade my fronts to RTi A7's. Did you find a good deal for yours? Do you might to share that info with me?
post #357 of 2855
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

@ gce

I am also planning to upgrade my fronts to RTi A7's. Did you find a good deal for yours? Do you might to share that info with me?

Got them thru Amazon. I think you could probably find a better price ($445 each cherry wood) but I trust Amazon and like the way they handle things.
post #358 of 2855
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Originally Posted by gce View Post

I just upgraded my fronts and added presence speakers. So I had to run the YPAO again.

I set my sub to 1/2 Volume, phase at 0 and the freq. at max and made sure the sub is on and not in auto. After running the YPAO I went into manual speaker mod and set all speakers to Small and the Bass Crossover to 80Hz. The YAPO set my sub's level to 0. which is what you want.

I have an A810 and I added Polk RTiA7's for my fronts. I thought I would need an Amp but so far I'm very pleased at how the 810 drives my 7.1 with presence. The presence's really add to the front. A much fuller sound!

Good info! I should be getting my new RX-810 on Thursday and I was curious about the YPAO vs the Audyssey. I am running a 5.1 with 2 pair of book shelves and I have a brand new Outlaw LFM-1 EX in the box waiting to be hooked up! It is good to hear that the 810 is running with plenty of power! I am going to add new fronts and rears later on and I will go to a 7.2! I do plan on an amp as well.
post #359 of 2855
Ok. Thanks! I purchased my RX-A with Newegg and they gave me a gift card (special promotion). I'm planning to use it to buy these speakers, but problem is that Newegg doesn't have the RTi A7's in stock. Anyway, I am just looking around to see if there are better deals available in other places.

What are you using as center? I already have the CSi A6, and from what I read it seems like is a perfect match for the RTi A7's.
post #360 of 2855
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

What are you using as center? I already have the CSi A6, and from what I read it seems like is a perfect match for the RTi A7's.

The CSi A6 is the perfect match...I don't have one yet. I have a CS10 that sounds OK. By putting in the front presence speakers, which goes above the TV you can lift the center channel sound to the middle of the screen with the A810. Sounds really good that way.
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