The "official" Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A710/810/1010/2010/3010 thread - Page 21

I've had good luck with SnapAV along with Audio Control, and Ethereal. Or you could try an optical HDMI cable. They can run up to 200 ft.

I'll be buying a HT system from scratch and plan to use the 3010 as the centerpiece of the electronics. Are there any advantages to buying a Yamaha BR player as well? I'm looking at the BD-A1010. I'll be using it for mostly DVDs, some in compressed form. And BRs. I don't do any streaming (REALLY SLOW internet in the country I will also play some multichannel audio discs. DTS Surround and perhaps SACD or DVD-A. I've so far looked primarily at the Yammy player and the Oppo 93. Are these overkill considering the video processing in the 3010? With many SD DVDs this becomes a priority. Of course I realize they are both universal players and that most of the cheaper options won't play many of the audio formats that I think I want to play, so that's a vote for one of these.

Another tough decision. I'll appreciate your advice.

Cheers!

Chuck

^^^I have the Oppo 93 and the 1010. In my situation I let the Oppo do all of the heavy lifting regarding the upscaling and deinterlacing from SD-DVD. I know there are opinions that The Oppo is the king of upscaling and HQV is king yadda yadda yadda. I would say that unless you are projecting 100" image or larger the actual differences between the two would be small. I know that I am very pleased with my SD-DVD image on my 115" screen and I still have a lot of SD-DVD's I watch on a regular basis so that was a priority of mine as well. I have not been disappointed in the Oppo at all. You just have to remember that all things being equal garbage in = garbage out. If you start with a poor transfer then no amount of magic can help get a fantastic image.

So if you are just going for upscaling then the two BR players you listed might be overkill. If you are looking for other features (like what you mention) then I don't think that they are overkill at all. I would simply go with the Oppo over the Yammy player due to the customer support and regular firmware updates that they are putting out on a regular basis. Of course I'm biased towards the Oppo.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

RTROSE

Chuck-

In addition to what RTROSE said, also consider that for best de-interlacing/scaling performance the video processor in the A3010 should be fed a native 480i signal via HDMI from the Blu Ray player when playing DVDs. DVDs are encoded 480i and de-interlacing is the key first step that must occur prior to scaling. Very few Blu Ray (or DVD) players output a native 480i signal via HDMI, including the 1010 which always upscales 480i via HDMI, so the video processing performance of the player is often the important one.

I'm using the Oppo -93 with the A2010 with great results and would recommend it very highly. As a bonus the Oppo is one of the few players that optionally can be set to "source direct" to always output the native encoding of the disc. You can compare the video processing performance of the player against the A3010 (both are excellent, IMHO) and use whichever processor you prefer.

Another recommendation for the oppo 93. Great player and I've been using their hardware since 2004. One thing I did notice that on some older crappy dvd's I have played through a pioneer dv610 av (used to play DVD audio before I had the oppo) the 3010s video processor did an excellent job cleaning up the picture. However after using the oppo, I found turning off the 3010s video processing and allowing the oppo to handle it yielded better results on my plasma. Both video processors are good but I believe the oppo does it better on my tv.

^^^ I have the same impression with my Oppo 93 --> 3010 --> Samsung DLP. Processing is disabled on the 3010 and enabled on the 93.

I am testing the Yamaha 3010 against the 3067-3000 and there is quite a difference in sound quality for movies and music. And I am testing it for bi-amping the front channels and there is a difference as the base is more controlled and it sounds more open and musical, to my ears it is better. My speakers are hard to drive, dali helicon 400 and they are 4ohms

Quick question, contemplating running my whole house audio with a Yamaha rx-a2010. The biggest appeal will be using the AV controller app (unfortunately the house is not wired for cat5 but at the electrical outlet level down low).

I have 3 zones (zone 1 7.1 setup in great room, zone 2 master bedroom, zone 3 outside). If I put it into 'party mode', how does this effect the sound output in the great room?

When you turn on Party Mode what it does is anything being played in the main zone is now passed to zone 2 & 3 without any audio delay. It will do D/A conversion as well.

Ypao
A710
Just got a New sub woofer. I've been reading ypaoisnt the best when it comes to getting the most out of your sub. Can someone please guide me to the right page or please explain as simple as possible to a noob?
Thanks guys

By all means you need to use YPAO, since that's what you have. Anything more will require you to buy a 3rd party EQ setup, which is outside the scope of this thread. But you'll get more from using YPAO and some careful placement and setup with the sub than you will with a lot of other approaches, it's just that YPAO doesn't EQ the sub. EQing a sub is a mixed bag, and many subs are killed by pushing them beyond their capability and boosting VLF. Just turn it up and enjoy.

Interesting, which unit do you thinks sounds the best to you? 3010 or the 3067-3000? I know that when you talk about bi-wiring and bi-amping there are many schools of thought.

I do not have that option to do that so I have to rely on others impressions on what they think.

Regards,

RTROSE

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to YPAO. Although I have been a "Yamaha guy" for about 15 years and owned 3 flagships over that time, I tried/switched to two different Audyssey based preamps the last 3 years. I loved Audyssey for HT and thought I'd NEVER go back to Yamaha. However, I was not a fan of using Audyssey for music, just for HT. Curiosity got the best of me and I picked up a 3010 a few weeks back. I used my trusty SPL at first (as I used to do with my prior Yamy units that didn't have YPAO), then eventually switched to YPAO. Talk about WOW. Yeah, it might not EQ the sub, but as much as I loved Audyssey (XT to be exact) I never cared for how it seemed to over-emphasize the LF, and then enabling Dynamic Volume (which I used regularly for night watching) really bloated the LF. YPAO just sounds clean and balanced all around to me, and I actually PREFER to run YPAO-Natural with 2-channel music listening. Add Cinema DSP 3D to that for HT and I'm not missing Audyssey for a second. I'm beyond happy to be back with Yamaha.

There have been a number of avs members who did not like Audyssey or HK´s EZsetEQ for music and turned it off. A this time I´m not using any EQ on my music system. And its sounds fabulous.
I´ve been thinking of getting one of the new Yamahas for HT went I make a trip back to the US later this year. I´ve only used HK EZset in the past.

The 3010 does EQ the sub--just FYI.

Terribly... Who wants bass roll off at 30hz when a sub like mine can hit over 95db at 16hz? You're best off eqing the sub yourself.

Am I reading this right????

Using ypao, I can either have excellent audio quality with just ok non adjustable bass or...

Buy a Yamaha 3010?!?

Or go to audyssey??

I want my killer BASS!!!

The 3010 sounds the best.

Just as a follow up question, with the setup above, what would be the configuration to get stereo playing in zone 3 and all the speakers in zone 1 say for a party? In the manual I saw information about 9ch stereo but nothing about 5 or 7ch stereo.

Does the pre-out of the RXA-2010 or 3010 provide enough voltage to drive the Anthem MCA20/50 amps? The specification said pre-out of only 1V which is rather low!

I have a 710 and have a qurstion about controlling it with the android device. I have google music but I cant get the app to see the music to stram it to the A710. Any ides or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

What do you mean exactly? You want to use a app wirelessly and have the 710 send it through to speakers?

I have the 710 hooked up to our wifi network. With our ipod and the yamaha app, it sees the music on the ipod and will stream it to the 710. With my android phone and yamaha app, it does not see google music. I cant figure how to get the yamaha app to see google.music to play the songs I have downloaded.

A710

Can this decode and play AAC 5.1 as 5.1 or will it downstream to 2 channel stereo?

There's plenty. I drive an emotiva xpa5 off my pre's on the 3010

so your iPad is hooked through wifi to your 710?
I think the only way to play music is through Bluetooth.

Well if the 710 is a network avr and your android is on wifi as well, you should be able to stream music. I don't use google music, so I can't verify that for you. On my droid x I have no problems streaming my music from the phone to the avr.

I thought I read otherwise, but it seems I was wrong. Thanks for setting me straight. After I ran YPAO, the sub didn't sound any different tonally, maybe just a bit softer on the bottom end which I assumed was just a lower level setting than where I set it initially. So I didn't think YPAO did anything with it as I could otherwise immediately tell a difference with the other speakers, particularly on the top end which were tamed.

I can play Amazon mp3 through wi fi but haven't tried Google Music.

Or do what I did. Buy a 10x0 and add an Antimode 8033. YPAO does a great job with my speakers and the 8033 is great with my sub. You need Anthem's ARC or XT32 to do better for sub EQ (or their stand alone equivalents).