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post #121 of 363
Thank you. The MDR-DS7500 seems very interesting. I almost bought an RS220 until i found this thread.


I just read that the MDR-DS7500 only has HDMI inputs.
How can you connect a device, let's say a Playstation 3, to this unit? I'm used to hooking devices up to my TV and using optical out on my TV to my Audio receiver. How would i connect a PS3 to the DS7500 for example?
post #122 of 363
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Originally Posted by sirhc84 View Post

I just read that the MDR-DS7500 only has HDMI inputs. How can you connect a device, let's say a Playstation 3, to this unit? I'm used to hooking devices up to my TV and using optical out on my TV to my Audio receiver. How would i connect a PS3 to the DS7500 for example?
Read that where?

Anyway, if you look at the owner's manual, it shows 4 HDMI inputs, 1 optical, and one analog (stereo).
post #123 of 363
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Read that where?

eBay listings etc.

But thanks, user manual is a good tip. So these headphones seem like a no brainer and i'll be getting them in the coming months.
Edited by sirhc84 - 7/3/12 at 10:03am
post #124 of 363
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Originally Posted by crazyleo View Post


I thought I'll post my experience here anyway. After getting no reply from tomland (might be away) I decided to bite the bullet and order it through Tenso. Luckily to my surprise amazon started offering this headphone for 25500 Yen which is around $320. So I registered myself with both tenso and amazon and used tenso's guide to have amazon ship it to their warehouse. I emailed them about my package and was told that it takes one day to process deliveries and then I'll receive the invoice for payment. I got the notice for pament which came around 5700 Yen or $70 whic I paid immidiately using paypal. They took a day to process EMS and my package was sent. Again, fortunately I didn't have any problems with EMS either. I think these rules might be country specific as I'm not in Europe. Further, the lithium-ion battery is built-in so maybe that is treated differently.

Anyway, I got myself these awesome headphones for under $400 which is quite a bargain. I did a short test yesterday with Tintin bluray and I was complete blown away with the sound quality these headphone produces. They are a little bulky but are comfertable to wear. Will do more testing tonight.

I'm having a problem with Tenso.

I ordered my Sony MDR-DS7500s from Amazon.co.jp on June 30th which were subsequently shipped out on the 1st of July. They arrived at Tenso's warehouse on the 2nd at which time the "My Page" section of their site was not updated. The next day I received this e-mail :

"
Hi,

This is the Tenso.com Support Team. We are writing to you about an item that we cannot ship via EMS. Since we cannot ship it via EMS, we have not registered it into your My Page.
Package: Yamato 3136-2689-2854 Amazon
Headphones
EMS does not allow us to send lithium ion batteries because of flammability risk.
However, packages containing lithium ion batteries can be sent via UPS.

Please choose from among the following options:
1) Send your package to a domestic Japanese address, (for example, to a friend or back to the seller).
The cost for domestic shipping will be the domestic shipping fee + 500 yen handling fee.

If you are shipping your item within Japan, please tell us:
A. Address in Japan
B. Name of receiving party
C. Telephone number of receiving party
D. (optional) Time at which you would like to the package to be delivered
2) Ship your package via UPS
If you wish to choose option 2, please provide us with the following information:

1. Whether you wish to purchase insurance or not, Yes/No (insurance costs 50 JPY per 11000 JPY of the package's value)
2. Total value of the package's contents
3. Name of the products in the package (general descriptions such as 'camera' or 'toy' are not enough, please more specific information such as brand, model type, model number etc.)
4. Whether the product is new or used

The cost for shipping via UPS will be as follows:
980 JPY - Tenso.com Handling Fee
9386 JPY - UPS Shipping Fee (not including insurance)

Total: 10366 JPY
*Please note that Tenso.com is not responsible for any customs duties you may be charged.
Packages delivered via UPS will typically arrive within 4 business days of shipment from our warehouse (not including Saturdays, Sundays and holidays).

You can make payments for your UPS shipments in the Optional Services section of your My Page.

Your billing will be processed as soon as we get your reply."

I don't get it. I've read posts from several members here that have indicated that they used EMS shipping with no problems, including your post. In addition, there are several importers on the Web that use EMS shipping for this product.

The UPS shipping cost is 3x that of the EMS cost and almost half the price of the headphones!

Any help would be appreciated.

jdb2
Edited by jdb2 - 7/5/12 at 2:58pm
post #125 of 363
Hi everyone,

I thought I'd post my question in this thread since so many fellow owners seem to be hanging out here. I purchased the DS7500 recently and I've been trying to set it up but I'm having some issues. I have connected my sources to my AVR (Onkyo 818), then to the Sony box and then to my TV.

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but i thought that the system would work like this: when the headphones are not active the sound would come out of my speaker system (which it does) but as soon as I put the headphones on my head and they turn on then the sound would be automatically cut off from the speakers and go only through the headphones. But every time I put on the headphones the sound comes from both speakers and the headphones, which is not convenient.

Anyone has any ideas how I can make this work?

Thnak
post #126 of 363
@tdx...the only thing i can think of concerning ur situation is to pull up the TV's menu and switch the sound to 'external' speakers...I hope this helps!
post #127 of 363
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Originally Posted by beerhunt View Post

@tdx...the only thing i can think of concerning ur situation is to pull up the TV's menu and switch the sound to 'external' speakers...I hope this helps!

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it doesn't only do this when plugged in to the TV, but with any source (BD, HTPC, etc). It's very frustrating because the manual seems to indicate that this has something to do with how everything is configured, the HDMI mode (1/2/Off) and ARC. But since I don't understand Japanese i can't figure it out.

Any owners here that are able to automatically mute their receiver when they power on the headphones?
post #128 of 363
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Originally Posted by tdx View Post

I have connected my sources to my AVR (Onkyo 818), then to the Sony box and then to my TV.
Unless the Sony is connected in between the sources and the AVR, it cannot interrupt the audio path feeding the AVR. Have a look at connection setup #2 on page 16 of the manual.

I do not know if it is designed to mute the HDMI audio output when the headphones are turned on, but if it is, this would be the setup needed.
post #129 of 363
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Unless the Sony is connected in between the sources and the AVR, it cannot interrupt the audio path feeding the AVR. Have a look at connection setup #2 on page 16 of the manual.
I do not know if it is designed to mute the HDMI audio output when the headphones are turned on, but if it is, this would be the setup needed.

Thanks I tried that but it didn't work. Also now I've discovered another problem which is that the Sony box goes to "sleep" after a few minutes when the headphones are not active. So if I use it as a switcher with my AVR and don't use the headphones the screen of my tv goes black after a while. Very annoying. Anyone knows how to disable this "sleep mode"?
post #130 of 363
^^ Google translate loses something in translation. frown.gif

The power button on the main unit has green and orange settings. Perhaps the orange means power is controlled by the headphones, and green means it is on all the time? Might try it.
Edited by Roger Dressler - 7/11/12 at 10:42pm
post #131 of 363
Why didn't you use a HDMI 2x1 switch? I had same your issues and it saved me a lot of headache.
post #132 of 363
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Originally Posted by Elpee View Post

Why didn't you use a HDMI 2x1 switch? I had same your issues and it saved me a lot of headache.

You are right I might just do that. Hopefully it will fix all my issues at once (ARC, sleep on/off etc). Is the switch you linked to the one you're using?
post #133 of 363
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Originally Posted by jdb2 View Post

I don't get it. I've read posts from several members here that have indicated that they used EMS shipping with no problems, including your post. In addition, there are several importers on the Web that use EMS shipping for this product.
The UPS shipping cost is 3x that of the EMS cost and almost half the price of the headphones!
Any help would be appreciated.
jdb2

Hi jdb2. I didn't logon in a few weeks so couldn't reply earlier. I really didn't have any issues with EMS. I simply got an email to make the payment and confirm with email. They were pretty good with response time and always replied to my emails promptly. Based on what you've said I'm assuming EMS laws are different to each country. I see that you are in states and this rule might be enforced by U.S. customs. May be you can find this info from U.S. customs office/website and get back to Tenso with the official reply. I'm in Australia, hence, different custom rules. I have bought many thing from overseas including Amazon US that had lithium batteries in them. I didn't have problem with any of them.
post #134 of 363
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Originally Posted by tdx View Post

You are right I might just do that. Hopefully it will fix all my issues at once (ARC, sleep on/off etc). Is the switch you linked to the one you're using?

Yes, it is. I did a research and found it as the best/cheapest one. It can handle 3D too, but I didn't test it. The blue LED light that indicates which port is being used causes annoying a bit in a dark room. You should hide/ cover it. Good luck.
post #135 of 363
Just purchased a set tonight from Amazon and can not wait for them to get here. Does any one know if there is an English manual for it? If not, I wonder if I contacted Sony and asked for an English manual if they would be able to do it? I would very much like to read all about the functions and how to use it before I get it. Also is this fine to plug into my wall socket here in Canada or should I get a travel kit plug adapter?
post #136 of 363
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DripDrop View Post

Just purchased a set tonight from Amazon and can not wait for them to get here. Does any one know if there is an English manual for it? If not, I wonder if I contacted Sony and asked for an English manual if they would be able to do it? I would very much like to read all about the functions and how to use it before I get it. Also is this fine to plug into my wall socket here in Canada or should I get a travel kit plug adapter?
Just go to the online manual and copy/paste it into Google Translate or one of the other online translate programs available, they're more than adequate to get the gist of it. It's pretty self explanatory once you get going (we pretty much explained most of it earlier in the thread anyways).

As for plugging the charger into the wall, you'll be fine.

FYI: As I stated earlier in the thread, I purchased a 4x2 Matrix Switch for passthrough purposes and it solved all my problems. Now I am able to use my headphones and amp simultaneously, and when I don't want to hear my amp I just mute it.
post #137 of 363
I just purchased the MDR-6500's for $189.00 from Amazon seller...originally $214.00, but shipment came late so Amazon refunded me $25.

I know that the audio is lossy and via optical only, but is there a $300 improvement from the MFR-6500 to the MDR-7500?
Just wondering if it is worth it to return my MDR-6500 and purchase the MDR-7500 instead.

I'm also having some difficulty connecting the MDR-6500 to my Pioneer VSX-1121 receiver. All my components are connected via HDMI.
I've tried connecting my Oppo BDP-93, TiVo and PS3 via both HDMI & optical in with the optical out to the MDR-6500 optical in...no sound.
The optical in's are all assigned to the corresponding sources...I've even tried swapped them around by changing both HDMI & optical inputs.

I ordered this optical switcher from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003C15798/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 ...hoping that this will resolve my problem.
I would rather find a way to just have it all connected to my receiver and be able to switch between sources from there...any ideas?

Thanks for any suggestions in helping me make a decision and/or resolve my problem.
post #138 of 363
I plan to use a HDMI switch with ir control going to the MDR-DS7500. I plan to have all my HDMI cables into the switch then from the switch into HDMI port 3 on the Sony base then the Sony output to my amp. I use a Logitech harmony remote so I can set it up to get everything to the right input at a touch of a button. When I want to watch a blu-ray it will change the HDMI switch to the correct input, just way cheaper, and easier then the matrix switch.
post #139 of 363
Any good amazon seller sumone can recomend for the sonys?
post #140 of 363
Ebay has these for 399 with free shipping. please check.
post #141 of 363
I know the reciever unit can process hd audio but Is the sound that is outputed from the headphones actually dts hd/truehd or is the quality lowered by the reciever before transmission. Also how comfortable are these when wearing for long periods of time?
post #142 of 363
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Originally Posted by Connor Roy View Post

I know the receiver unit can process hd audio but Is the sound that is outputed from the headphones actually dts hd/truehd or is the quality lowered by the receiver before transmission.
As best I can deduce, the transmission link does not use lossy compression, so in that regard it is the same as previous Sony and Pioneer IR headphone systems, except it uses RF transmission now for better range.

In those systems, the inherent quality of sources like 44.1 kHz CD or 48 kHz video are well preserved. The primary limitation of the 7500 wrt HD audio is that I suspect it does not preserve higher sample rates like 96/192 kHz, as that would significantly impact the transmission bandwidth. So I suspect those are sample rate converted down to 48 kHz.
post #143 of 363
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

As best I can deduce, the transmission link does not use lossy compression, so in that regard it is the same as previous Sony and Pioneer IR headphone systems, except it uses RF transmission now for better range.
In those systems, the inherent quality of sources like 44.1 kHz CD or 48 kHz video are well preserved. The primary limitation of the 7500 wrt HD audio is that I suspect it does not preserve higher sample rates like 96/192 kHz, as that would significantly impact the transmission bandwidth. So I suspect those are sample rate converted down to 48 kHz.
hello everyone....speaking of transmission range(s)...i posed this question last May of '12...to which Elpee graciously replied but to my digress....can anyone confirm that these headphones(mdr-ds7500) get at least 125 ft ( 40m ) range?
post #144 of 363
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Originally Posted by jampot View Post

I am looking to buy a pair here in the Uk. Can I buy directky from amazon.jp? I have a few freinds who live in Japan, could they help me if not?

I also live in the UK and was wondering how you got on? I've sent you a PM as I am undecided on the reputation of the Amazon Japan seller , returns false etc, and hoping your Japanese friends could advise me ? Here my calculations below:

¥5580 shipping cost tenso.com +
¥1000 insurance cost? +
¥27,800 for the headphones via Amazon Japan +
¥34,380 TOTAL

£269.422 GBP XE website currently conversion calculation
£270.26 UK duty calculator.com currency conversion calculation:
Calculation results @calculator.com

Total customs value: £270.26
- Duty: £0.00
- VAT: £54.05
Total import duty & taxes due: £54.05
Total landed cost: £324.32 at JPY/GBP exchange rate of 0.0079

Calculation notes
Notes on duty & taxes rates
Sony Headphones has an import duty rate of 2% and VAT rate of 20% .
Duty result for item Sony headphones is nil because the total amount of duty payable for this item is less than £9.00
Notes on import taxes due
Please note that your shipping provider may add an additional handling fee you


Seems reasonable to me but has anybody else got any thoughts at these prices?
post #145 of 363
@jdb2 did you sort thing out on the EMS Vs UPS prices front?

Also does anyone have the EMS insurance & consolidation rate please?
post #146 of 363
Can anyone with the box give me the shipping dimensions please?
post #147 of 363
Anyone knows if this could work?

Playstation 3 (HDMI) + PC (nvidia GPU HDMI out) + Xbox 360 (HDMI) => MDR DS7500 => (HDMI out) => Sony HMZ-T2 => (HDMI out) => TV

The HMZ-T2 HMD has 1 HDMI input and 1 HDMI output and has passthrough capability. The MDR DS7500 has 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output, and also has passthrough.

So my question is, can i get sound from headphones while watching a movie from the PC (or one of the consoles), on the TV, bypassing the HMZ-T2 (passthrough)?
post #148 of 363
Will my setup work? Is there a shorter way to hook up my systems?

This is the best way I have figured to set up my entertainment system. If you can improve on my ideas, or if I am doing something I shouldn't be, please let me know.

I am particularly concerned about my setup because, unlike what Roger suggested (MDR > AVR) I am keeping these two unconnected. Please comment on whether my way works and/or if it is better than Roger's suggestion (though his was for 6 HDMI sources).

My current equipment:
- PC (AMD 7750 graphics card / 1 HDMI out) I use my PC for watching films
- PS3 (1 HDMI out)
- Panasonic TV (4 HDMI ports)
- Asus Zenbook (1 HDMI out)
- Sony HT-CT 150 (4 HMDI in / 1 out) N.B. this is a 3.1 HDMI sound bar set with a subwoofer (A/V receiver) that I use to output sound from my TV.

Current configuration:
1. PS3 > Sony HT-CT
2. PC > Sony HT-CT

Sony HT-CT > TV (HDMI 1)

Zenbook > TV (HDMI 4)

This basic setup allows me to use my Sony sound bar for virtual surround from PC and PS3.


Here is my projected setup, which will include the MDR.

1. PS3 > MDR [HDMI port 1] (I will be using the MDR exclusively for gaming, not the sound bar anymore)


2. PC > 4x2 HDMI switch > 1: MDR [HDMI port 2]
2: Sony HT-CT

I need the PC hooked up to my MDR for watching late-night films
I also need it hooked up to my Sony HT-CT for watching films with others

3. Zenbook > 4x2 HDMI switch> 1: MDR [HDMI port 3]
2: Sony HT-CT
I need my Zenbook hooked up to my MDR for watching films/hearing music at night
I also want it hooked up to my Television for HDMI out (since I need a switch to connect it to both, it is easier (cable) to plug it into an HDMI port in my HT-CT subwoofer rather than directly into my TV)

Naturally, of course, I conclude with

HT-CT > TV HDMI 1
MDR > TV HDMI 2

I wish I could draw a diagram to simplify all this, but if you take a moment to go through my projected connections, I would really appreciate it.

PS - I am physically located in Japan, which means I have easy access to this unit and know where to purchase it at a discounted price. For those of you who haven't yet, if you are interested in buying this product, and willing to trust me, I am able to accept a Paypal payment of 355$ excluding shipping (about 25$ more) to ship this to an address of your choosing, via Japan Post EMS registered, in Europe and USA. I go to the post office on a near-daily basis, so its no skin of my back if you want me to do you a small favour. I only say this because everyone seems to complain about the unavailability of this product, and the fact that it is more expensive abroad than it is here, where it is not exactly new! Please note that this price does not represent any middle-man payment for me - I need help verifying that my intended setup will work and am willing to give something back in exchange.

Thank you, please reply, and let me know if you want a new MDR for 355$ plus shipping.
post #149 of 363
I am able to obtain this item for much cheaper. If you or anyone else you know is interested, let me know.
post #150 of 363
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Originally Posted by DripDrop View Post

I plan to use a HDMI switch with ir control going to the MDR-DS7500. I plan to have all my HDMI cables into the switch then from the switch into HDMI port 3 on the Sony base then the Sony output to my amp. I use a Logitech harmony remote so I can set it up to get everything to the right input at a touch of a button. When I want to watch a blu-ray it will change the HDMI switch to the correct input, just way cheaper, and easier then the matrix switch.

I don't understand why everyone hooks this unit up to their amp rather than straight to their TV.

Doesn't your TV have more than one HDMI port?
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