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post #241 of 366
Dear Dave
did u manage to connect the Headphone to AV
I can easily connect to my BD and it sounds great with optical connection
but not to my pioneer AV that I purchased less than 2 yrs with HDMI connection
can you help me out please?
I don't know if it has sth to do with the version of HDMI
mine is 1.3
post #242 of 366
Dear Dave
did u manage to connect the Headphone to AV
I can easily connect to my BD and it sounds great with optical connection
but not to my pioneer AV that I purchased less than 2 yrs with HDMI connection
can you help me out please?
I don't know if it has sth to do with the version of HDMI
mine is 1.3
post #243 of 366
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Originally Posted by farshad View Post

hi everyone
I bought the mdrds 7500
when I connect it directly to pioneer BD with optical cable all is ok,great sound
but when connect through HDMI to my pioneer amp VSX-LX53 I get no sound from headphone
can you please help me out

As you first mention, running HDMI out from a BD player, to the MDR-7500, you will get ALL the audio codecs offered on the disk itself, and that's the best way to go (and you will see the various audio codec lights on the Sony unit, depending on your audio source input). In this scenario, bypassing the AVR, it does not even have to be powered on, and you will get the highest quality audio the source offers, to the headphones.

I don't own a "pioneer amp", so I know nothing about it's connections, options, or settings.

BUT, for the sources I use, like BR decks, and an ATV-3, these are connected via HDMI to my AVR, a now older, Onkyo 906, with 4 HDMI inputs, and two HDMI outputs (sub/main). When for example I want to see/hear the ATV, I have to switch to a setting on my Onkyo located in the Onkyo AVR settings: HARDWARE-HDMI-AUDIO TV OUT, in most cases when NOT using the wireless headphone, this setting is: "OFF", for my AVR to pass audio via HDMI, to the Sony MDR-7500, I must change this setting to: "ON". There is a LIMITATION for the audio in this configuration.......... see note......

NOTE: The audio now being passed via the AVR to the Sony MDR-7500, is only DOLBY, I will ONLY get and SEE, the "Dolby" light go on on the Sony wireless base station, it will play Dolby 5.1, which is all the AppleTV can do anyways . Any Blue Ray deck sources wired this way through the AVR, will only pass the Dolby tracks on the Blue Ray disks, assuming they have one as a fall back from "DTS HD Master Audio", most Blue Ray movies have a regular Dolby audio track, but I've begin to notice on some new BR disks, that there is NO regular Dolby audio track, just the "DTS HD Master Audio", that can be a problem. I also do NOT get any 7.1 BR audio, either. This is a limitation, at least for my 2009 Onkyo 906 AVR, passing audio over HDMI, not sure about newer AVR's.

So, all I can advise is you look closely at your Pioneer manual, you say it's an "amp", not sure if you have an AVR (audio/video receiver), or just an amp, but check for any settings that relate to "audio" over HDMI. The Sony MDR-7500 is really designed to take input sources (BlueRay etc.) directly into the base station, in this manner it works the best, though other, somewhat more limited configurations can work, you have to experiment with your own system, and the way it's wired. For listening and watching BR movies from my Oppo 83, I use a "passive" A/B switch, in the "A" position, the HDMI cable is feed directly to my AVR, and I listen via my external speakers. Late at night, I put the switch in the "B" position, and feed via HDMI, the Sony MDR-7500, and listen to the audio wirelessly, the Sony feeds my Panasonic VT-50 plasma monitor, and I can turn OFF the AVR completely since I'm bypassing it, both audio and video, completely. Good luck!
post #244 of 366
Hello, I'm hoping someone here can help clarify a few things before I jump in and purchase a pair of these headphones.

I currently connect my BD player, Xbox 360 and WDTV to my Onkyo TXSR 876 AVR. I then use HDMI out 'MAIN' to my projector, and HDMI out 'SUB' to my plasma TV. This way I can watch all my HDMI sources on either projector or TV by switching outputs on the AVR.

I understand from the helpful info I've read in this thread that in order to pass through the audio codecs properly, I need to connect my sources directly to the Sony 7500 base-station, then switch outputs between the Sony and the AVR to alternate between headphone sound and my 7.1 speaker set-up.

But I can't figure out how to properly connect to my two displays (projector and TV). If I connect the Sony to the projector, then presumably I wouldn't be able to use the phones whilst watching a Blu-ray on my plasma TV, as the 'MAIN' and 'SUB' outputs on my AVR have effectively been rendered redundant. And if I settle for just using the phones with my projector (which would be most of the time anyway, to be honest), how would I get the 7.1 speaker set-up to output sound whilst watching on my TV, when all the HD sources are going direct to the Sony?

If anyone can help, I'd be most grateful.
post #245 of 366
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Originally Posted by jackanapes70 View Post

Hello, I'm hoping someone here can help clarify a few things before I jump in and purchase a pair of these headphones.

I currently connect my BD player, Xbox 360 and WDTV to my Onkyo TXSR 876 AVR. I then use HDMI out 'MAIN' to my projector, and HDMI out 'SUB' to my plasma TV. This way I can watch all my HDMI sources on either projector or TV by switching outputs on the AVR.

I understand from the helpful info I've read in this thread that in order to pass through the audio codecs properly, I need to connect my sources directly to the Sony 7500 base-station, then switch outputs between the Sony and the AVR to alternate between headphone sound and my 7.1 speaker set-up.

But I can't figure out how to properly connect to my two displays (projector and TV). If I connect the Sony to the projector, then presumably I wouldn't be able to use the phones whilst watching a Blu-ray on my plasma TV, as the 'MAIN' and 'SUB' outputs on my AVR have effectively been rendered redundant. And if I settle for just using the phones with my projector (which would be most of the time anyway, to be honest), how would I get the 7.1 speaker set-up to output sound whilst watching on my TV, when all the HD sources are going direct to the Sony?

If anyone can help, I'd be most grateful.

If you only need the headphones on your projector, just install the base in between your receiver and projector. That is what I did anyway:

Sony BD - -|
Xfinity - - - -|- - - - - > Marantz 5007 - - - - - > Sony 7500 - - - - - > TV
Apple TV - -|

It functions as I need it to be. When it is on, it disables the TV and AV sound. When it is off, I have the sound on TV, or on AV if it s on. Here's the settings: RF: Auto, CTRL HDMI: Mode2, DISPLAY: on.

My biggest problem is that neither ATV nor Comcast Cisco support CEC, but, it works perfectly with BDP.
Edited by Lost! - 6/18/13 at 7:38pm
post #246 of 366
Thanks for your suggestion, but in the end I decided to go for the 6500's instead. I figured that most of the time I'd be watching films/playing games with lossy Dolby/DTS codecs, or older films on Blu with lossless stereo/mono that wouldn't suffer massively with a downmix. I couldn't justify paying nearly double for these just to get better audio on the handful of action Blu-rays in my collection, and to not be able to use the headphones when I'm watching on TV not projector.

My new 6500 headphones arrived today, and having set them up, OPTICAL OUT on receiver to OPTICAL IN on the base-station, I can't get sound out of them unless I connect my sources (BD player, Xbox 360, WDTV, DVD, SkyHD) via optical or coaxial, and re-assign the digital input on my receiver menu (switching HDMI audio for my my BD player to Optical 1, for example). For whatever reason the Onkyo 876 receiver won't pass the HDMI audio to the headphone station thru optical out.

Unless I'm doing something wrong?

I can connect all five sources via the three coax and two opt inputs on my receiver, and switch the assignments in the receiver set-up, but it'd be easier not to bother if possible.

I was also wondering how good optical splitters are these days, as I've had issues with them in the past. I may need one to carry sound to the phones when I add a PS4/Xbone to my hardware.

Any advice gratefully received!
post #247 of 366
On June 10th, I ordered DS-7500s from a Japanese eBay seller (Seller ID: zipang999) for $340 shipped. The seller contacted me on the 13th to tell me "Due to some kind of mistake, your item I sent came back. I have shipped your item again immediately." Then I wasn't home to sign when the Post Office delivered so I had to go there the next day and sign for the package. I tell you this because I wasn't aware that I was going to need to sign for delivery, and to say that zipang999 was an outstanding resource (out of stock today...). And because I think that 3 days from Japan to California is PDQ.

Shipped via Japan Post (japanpost.jp)

I'm disappointed that there is no balance control. There's plenty of room on the left can for one. My right ear needs a boost but I'm unable to make that happen due to the connection method required in my setup.

In order to increase volume, the ATT switch was moved from -8DB to 0DB.

Frankly, IMO these were not worth the price.
/End ramble
post #248 of 366
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Originally Posted by WantsNWarrants View Post

On June 10th, I ordered DS-7500s from a Japanese eBay seller (Seller ID: zipang999) for $340 shipped. The seller contacted me on the 13th to tell me "Due to some kind of mistake, your item I sent came back. I have shipped your item again immediately." Then I wasn't home to sign when the Post Office delivered so I had to go there the next day and sign for the package. I tell you this because I wasn't aware that I was going to need to sign for delivery, and to say that zipang999 was an outstanding resource (out of stock today...). And because I think that 3 days from Japan to California is PDQ.

Shipped via Japan Post (japanpost.jp)

I'm disappointed that there is no balance control. There's plenty of room on the left can for one. My right ear needs a boost but I'm unable to make that happen due to the connection method required in my setup.

In order to increase volume, the ATT switch was moved from -8DB to 0DB.

Frankly, IMO these were not worth the price.
/End ramble

I am not audiophile, but I guess I have a good taste in sound. I've Paradigm Signature speakers with Beryllium tweeters, and I use NOCS NS400 for my iPhone. I have tried several Sennheiser sets before purchasing this Sony and my NOCS, and to tell you the truth, I like the sound of these better than Sennheisers’.

Regarding the balance control, you should’ve not ordered it in the first place. It is obvious from the reviews and user manual that these phones do not have a balance control.
Edited by Lost! - 6/21/13 at 8:39am
post #249 of 366
Thanks for your post Mactavish, I'm having problems getting audio to pass through my pioneer SC – 37 receiver to the headphones. Has anyone had success using the MDR 7500 headphones and the SC-37 without employing the use of a matrix splitter? I've looked throughout the HDMI settings on my receiver and haven't found anything regarding sending the audio to a source other than the TV.
post #250 of 366
Thread Starter 
The best way to use these is with a 4x2 Matrix splitter. They're cheap enough, I found a decent Monprice one for sale @ Zorotools.com for $35 (search the web for a $5 off coupon).

First time I was using these to play a videogame The Last of Us on the PS3. It has a few audio settings. Should I set the front speaker channel to small or large? You can set it to LPCM 7.1 mode- should I use the headphone's GAME mode with it?
post #251 of 366
Hi guys. I received my set today and setup it up this way. BD player hdmi to the headphone base station, then hdmi out to the tv. No AVR in the system at all. HDMI control is set to mode 1 although I have no idea what that is for.

I am getting audio but none of the surround lights are turning on, not even Dolby digital or dts. My bluray player is configured to output hdmi audio. What else do I need to do?

Do I need new hdmi cables? Mine are pretty old, bought them about 7 years ago.
post #252 of 366
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Originally Posted by red_ryder View Post

Hi guys. I received my set today and setup it up this way. BD player hdmi to the headphone base station, then hdmi out to the tv. No AVR in the system at all. HDMI control is set to mode 1 although I have no idea what that is for.

I am getting audio but none of the surround lights are turning on, not even Dolby digital or dts. My bluray player is configured to output hdmi audio. What else do I need to do?

Do I need new hdmi cables? Mine are pretty old, bought them about 7 years ago.

Is your Blue Ray player set to output "Bitstream" or "PCM" audio? Try switching these settings from whatever you have now in the BR player.

As far as "HDMI Control", this is a note I saved on that.

ARC & CEC:
HDMI Control and HDMI CEC are the same thing. And yes it will switch your receiver to TV input when receiver and TV "sense" each other. That is by design. It will also switch your TV to internal tuner when you turn off BD player. It's a brain-dead feature.
On most receivers you have to have HDMI CEC enabled to have ARC. Some allow you to turn on/off parts of HDMI CEC independently (enable ARC but do not enable switching).
post #253 of 366
I got it working now. The Blu-ray player had audio DRC turned on. I don't know what it does but I turned it off and am getting surround through the headphones.

I have another question. I'm thinking of buying another headset for my wife. Anyone managed to translate the section on how to pair a second set to the base station?
post #254 of 366
Quote:
Originally Posted by red_ryder View Post

I have another question. I'm thinking of buying another headset for my wife. Anyone managed to translate the section on how to pair a second set to the base station?

My wife and I both have a set. Doing the pairing is easy:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4Yhh0cY_lJlZ016TkhjcUdDZTg/edit?usp=drive_web
post #255 of 366
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Originally Posted by red_ryder View Post

I got it working now. The Blu-ray player had audio DRC turned on. I don't know what it does but I turned it off and am getting surround through the headphones.

I have another question. I'm thinking of buying another headset for my wife. Anyone managed to translate the section on how to pair a second set to the base station?

If you google DRC = Dynamic Range Compression

From there you could learn more about it.
post #256 of 366
Quote:
Originally Posted by red_ryder View Post

I have another question. I'm thinking of buying another headset for my wife. Anyone managed to translate the section on how to pair a second set to the base station?
Post 238 mentioned: >>pair them with a processing unit using "ID Set" button.<<
post #257 of 366
IN case this point hasn't been addressed, for the lights to turn on, turn the Secondary Audio option in the Audio Processing section of the Setup Menu to off. DO this in all of the Source material player/units & you'll always have the happy lights on.
post #258 of 366
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Originally Posted by karmick View Post

IN case this point hasn't been addressed, for the lights to turn on, turn the Secondary Audio option in the Audio Processing section of the Setup Menu to off. DO this in all of the Source material player/units & you'll always have the happy lights on.

The advice for Oppo BlueRay player, was to always turn OFF "Secondary Audio", as it is mostly a problem starter. You may find you need to turn ON "BitStream" output from your BR player. Here is my setup:

DIRECT HDMI SETUP: (OPPO BLUERAY - bitstream -->SONY DS7500-->HDTV)

ALL THE ABOVE FORMATS PLAY THROUGH SONY HEADPHONES, AND CORRESPONDING LIGHTS ON SONY BASE STATION LIGHT UP! This is what you WANT to SEE and HEAR!
post #259 of 366
I have a Denon AVR with (2) HDMI Outputs.

Will I be able to use the Denon's HDMI Output No. 2 to drive the Sony mdr-ds7500 Headphone Amplifier and have it receive all Dolby/DTS formats in uncompressed Audio while still using the Denon as a 6 In 2 Out HDMI Switcher with HDMI Output No. 1 going to my HDTV Projector which has no audio functions?

Thanks in advance!
post #260 of 366
For most AVRs, the HDMI output has two modes: AMP or passthrough. in AMP mode, your AVR will decode all audio and send sound to your speakers but you get no audio in HDMI out. In passthrough mode, your receiver will not process any audio and send no sound to any of your speakers but pass HDMI audio to HDMI outs. So, if you want to get audio out of HDMI out, you need to set AVR to passthrough mode.
post #261 of 366
Thanks.

My sony-mdr-ds7500's arrive today and I know that my HDMI is set to Pass Thru Mode because I have a secondary monitor with Audio attached to it now.

So, it should work with the sony-mdr-ds7500's.

Now I will push my luck and see if I can use an HDMI Splitter to share HDMI Output No. 2 with both the sony-mdr-ds7500's and the Secondary Monitor.
post #262 of 366
Sony-mdr-ds7500's User Manual in English translations


I received my sony-mdr-ds7500 yesterday and I must confess ignorance of a number of relevant steps to get them working.

Where can I locate as much of the Sony-mdr-ds7500's User Manual in English translations as possible whether in pieces or substantially all the important portions?

Thanks in advance!
post #263 of 366
You can take pictures of your manual and use either Google Android or Windows Phone to do translation on the fly.
post #264 of 366
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

You can take pictures of your manual and use either Google Android or Windows Phone to do translation on the fly.


So, I took a picture of a page form the manual with my Google Nexus 4 phone.

How/where do I go to translate it?

Thanks in advance!
post #265 of 366
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Originally Posted by mkerdman View Post

So, I took a picture of a page form the manual with my Google Nexus 4 phone.

How/where do I go to translate it?

Thanks in advance!



I downloaded Google Translate to my Nexus 4 phone and it works albeit in very small chunks.

Thanks!

Does anyone have any other sources or ideas for English Translations for the User Manual Pages for the Sony MDR-DS7500?

Thanks in advance!
post #266 of 366
I tried Babylon and another software program, but, Cut-and-Paste to translate.google.com works best.

Thanks for the tip.
post #267 of 366
What is the cause and the cure for rhythmic drop outs or "motorboat-like dropout/ticking" in the audio on the Sony MDR-DS750's?
post #268 of 366
Check your wireless interference. IIRC, this headphone works on 2.4GHz RF. That means, your wifi network, Bluetooth headset, cordless phones and microwave oven as well as your neighbor's equipment can all interfere with it.
post #269 of 366
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Check your wireless interference. IIRC, this headphone works on 2.4GHz RF. That means, your wifi network, Bluetooth headset, cordless phones and microwave oven as well as your neighbor's equipment can all interfere with it.

I do have a 2.4GHz Access Point in the room, so, that may be it.
post #270 of 366
The new model of wireless headphones from Sony: MDR-HW700DS.
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