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post #391 of 869
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

Why would HK make something with no functionality yet charge so much? Then the ysp cannot be wall mounted and has no wireless sub
Do you know what else I could look at that has hdmi or 2 opticals that can be wall mounted with wireless sub for 6-800 dollars?

Thanks

No functionality? Don't tell that to the owners that think it sounds very, very good. rolleyes.gif

Perhaps the Toshiba SBX4250 would fit your needs, except it doesn't cost as much as you want to spend. biggrin.gif
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?poid=2000032189
post #392 of 869
Im sure it sounds great, but connectivity is very poor. The Toshiba looks ok, how does it compare to the Sony 150 or samsung 450 ?
post #393 of 869
Hi All,

Currently looking at investing in a Yamaha soundbar.

Had originally decided on the YAS-101 ($250 AUD) as it was the most cost effective and the reviews seemed to be mostly positive. Have found the YHT-S401 for $500 AUD and was wondering if the S401 would be worth paying double for? Any input would be great!

Will mostly be using with PS3 and streaming HD TV/movies to my ST50. Is anybody also able to tell me whether DLNA streaming with optical out from ST50 --> Soundbar will produce DD/DTS sound? Had a search through the ST50 thread but couldn't find a definitive answer.

Cheers
post #394 of 869
Hi guys,

Pioneer VSX-819 receiver with Panasonic plasma TV, DirecTV DVR, PS3 and Apple TV controlled through the receiver. I also have a Yamaha subwoofer and 5 Sony speakers from an old Sony Dream system (10+ years old!) connected for sound. I don't have the speakers arranged around the room for pure surround-sound, instead lined up across the TV stand.

I was recently given a Samsung HW-E350 soundbar for Christmas. From what I've read, if I'm looking for a soundbar for my current set-up, I need a passive soundbar, not a powered one like the HW-E350. Is that correct? Could I make the the HW-E350 work with my set-up? It has two HDMI, but no optical. My receiver's HDMI ports are all accounted for in its current set-up...

The manual doesn't have a set-up for use with a receiver, so I think I should consider other soundbar options.

Anyone have thoughts on how to make it work with what I have (and if it would work okay?), or what soundbar options I should consider with an AV receiver like my Pioneer?

Thanks.
post #395 of 869
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Originally Posted by parker45 View Post

I was recently given a Samsung HW-E350 soundbar for Christmas. From what I've read, if I'm looking for a soundbar for my current set-up, I need a passive soundbar, not a powered one like the HW-E350. Is that correct? Could I make the the HW-E350 work with my set-up? It has two HDMI, but no optical. My receiver's HDMI ports are all accounted for in its current set-up...

You are correct that powered soundbars are meant to be used instead of a traditional AVR, not with an AVR. There are quite a few passive soundbars ranging from LCR to five-speaker ones.

If you have time to fool around, you could try to make the E350 work with your setup. Take the HDMI that's going from your AVR to the TV and connect it instead to the HDMI-in on the soundbar. Connect the HDMI-out from the soundbar to the HDMI port on the TV. Change the settings on your AVR to output audio to "TV" instead of speakers. Then see what happens. eek.gif
Edited by Possumgirl - 1/13/13 at 11:05am
post #396 of 869
Thanks possumgirl!

The only other worry I have, the soundbar indicates it uses ARC, but I have found that my Panny TC-P50G10 TV doesn't support ARC. Will that give me issues?
post #397 of 869
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Originally Posted by parker45 View Post

Thanks possumgirl!

The only other worry I have, the soundbar indicates it uses ARC, but I have found that my Panny TC-P50G10 TV doesn't support ARC. Will that give me issues?

It shouldn't. ARC only gets involved when sending audio FROM a TV. The idea here is to send the audio/video output from the AVR to the soundbar. If this works, the soundbar would output video over HDMI to TV and process the incoming audio for output to the soundbar speakers.
post #398 of 869
I am in need of HELP. I am going from a 5.1 (Klipsch Forte's were fronts)) system with wired sub (Velodyne), Oppo BDP-93, and Yamaha RX V867. I have moved and my Sony 55NX810 is now hung above fireplace with 1 HDMI fished through to bookshelf connected to DirectTV in bookshelf. I want to go to a soundbar but am not sure how to do it (without wires showing) and connect the Oppo and receiver with just the one HDMI which comes out of the Direct receiver and into the Sony. Do I need a second HMDMI fished? I am just having trouble trying to think this one through. I could use bookshelf speakers (because there are speaker wires in the bookshelf) but I think they would be positioned too high. I know I won't get the 5.1 experience I had but the JBL Cinema 400 looks like it might fit my bill. Thanks. All opinions are welcome.

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post #399 of 869
Looking for a sound bar I think. I want super simple but good sound for watching tv and movies. I might listen to music from smartphone as well. My tv will be wall mounted so I would like to wall mount the sound bar underneath. I want a sub for some bass and I would like it to be wireless or at least easy to move around so there are not wires all over the place. As for hook ups I have no idea how it works. As of right now I just hook up my ps3 with hdmi and optical and my cable box with component and composite cables to the tv. TV is 55" sony hx850

Edit: I would like to stay under $800...also I will be in the middle of an open basement so now walls close and cant put anything on the ceiling...
Edited by perferd - 1/13/13 at 2:09pm
post #400 of 869
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Originally Posted by perferd View Post

Looking for a sound bar I think. I want super simple but good sound for watching tv and movies. I might listen to music from smartphone as well. My tv will be wall mounted so I would like to wall mount the sound bar underneath. I want a sub for some bass and I would like it to be wireless or at least easy to move around so there are not wires all over the place. As for hook ups I have no idea how it works. As of right now I just hook up my ps3 with hdmi and optical and my cable box with component and composite cables to the tv. TV is 55" sony hx850

Edit: I would like to stay under $800...also I will be in the middle of an open basement so now walls close and cant put anything on the ceiling...

You might want to take a look at the Toshiba SBX4250. It seems to meet most of your requirements. I don't know how well any soundbar will perform in an open setting with no close walls though.

Just curious, but why do you have your PS3 connected with both HDMI and optical? Or did I read that wrong?
post #401 of 869
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Originally Posted by pharmade View Post

I am in need of HELP. I am going from a 5.1 (Klipsch Forte's were fronts)) system with wired sub (Velodyne), Oppo BDP-93, and Yamaha RX V867. I have moved and my Sony 55NX810 is now hung above fireplace with 1 HDMI fished through to bookshelf connected to DirectTV in bookshelf. I want to go to a soundbar but am not sure how to do it (without wires showing) and connect the Oppo and receiver with just the one HDMI which comes out of the Direct receiver and into the Sony. Do I need a second HMDMI fished? I am just having trouble trying to think this one through. I could use bookshelf speakers (because there are speaker wires in the bookshelf) but I think they would be positioned too high. I know I won't get the 5.1 experience I had but the JBL Cinema 400 looks like it might fit my bill. Thanks. All opinions are welcome.

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Powered soundbars aren't meant to be used with receivers. You could look for a soundbar that has at least two HDMI inputs and comes with a wireless sub. Your sat receiver and Oppo would connect to it, and the soundbar would connect to your TV using the existing HDMI.
post #402 of 869
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

You might want to take a look at the Toshiba SBX4250. It seems to meet most of your requirements. I don't know how well any soundbar will perform in an open setting with no close walls though.

Just curious, but why do you have your PS3 connected with both HDMI and optical? Or did I read that wrong?

Lol I did but I don't know why so I just unplugged it.

Thanks for the toshiba recommendation. I looked up amazon reviews and it seemed ok but just under it was sony htct260 with excellent reviews

As for my area I don't know what to do. I thought about one of those bose cinemate gs systems too
post #403 of 869
I have a 60" Sharp LED TV wall mounted. My wife vetoed my amazing 5.1 setup and we compromised on a soundbar. Currently we have a Sony HTCT100 soundbar, but the sound is terrible and not nearly loud enough (our room is 15'x20').

My budget is around $500.

I'm considering the Yamaha YAS-101 and pairing it with my BIC H-100 sub. I love that the Yamaha has a clear dialogue function, as my main complaint is that I can't hear dialogue while watching TV. And I like that it has a sub out that I can use.

I'd love to have BT connectivity though, which the Yamaha doesn't have. Plus is has no display, so I don't know what input/sound level it is.

I've considered the Sony HTCT150, but I don't think that's much of a step up from my HTCT100. And the Sony HTCT550W, but it seems many complain the sound quality sucks. And about a dozen others, all with fatal flaws.

I know soundbars will never sound as good as my 5.1 setup. Sadly, either I have a true 5.1 setup and get divorced, or compromise and get a soundbar.

I'd love some input from you guys. Thanks so much!
post #404 of 869
I have recently bought the HK SB30 for 580 delivered @ Pauls tv .com , if you can stretch your budget a tiny bit. I am still playing around with it, but the sound is awesome, music is fantastic and the wireless sub is heavy and works well. I like it a lot , but the only downside is that the connectivity is verging on the ridiculous for an $800 product. Thankfully I am using it temporarily until I decide on what amp and speakers I want. It only has 1 optical and one digital coax. Fortunately, I only have a BR and mutli region DVD that I want to use, but I have no idea what they were playing at with charging so much for something that is almost unusable for most people. BUT , the sound is good. I only bought it as the YSP 2200 isn't wall mountable.
post #405 of 869
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

I have recently bought the HK SB30 for 580 delivered @ Pauls tv .com , if you can stretch your budget a tiny bit. I am still playing around with it, but the sound is awesome, music is fantastic and the wireless sub is heavy and works well. I like it a lot , but the only downside is that the connectivity is verging on the ridiculous for an $800 product. Thankfully I am using it temporarily until I decide on what amp and speakers I want. It only has 1 optical and one digital coax. Fortunately, I only have a BR and mutli region DVD that I want to use, but I have no idea what they were playing at with charging so much for something that is almost unusable for most people. BUT , the sound is good. I only bought it as the YSP 2200 isn't wall mountable.

That's crazy. There's no way I'd pay that much for something with only one optical in. I really need a receiver like unit that has at least 3 HDMI ins (my TV is wall mounted with the cables running behind the wall - there's no way I'm running more cables through the wall).
post #406 of 869
Looking to add a soundbar to my 80" Sharp which is wall mounted. Not interested in a sub as we really just watch basic TV, sports and an occasional movie. Is there a decent soundbar you guys could recommend that would be an easy addition and look good as well.

Thanks.
post #407 of 869
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Looking to add a soundbar to my 80" Sharp which is wall mounted. Not interested in a sub as we really just watch basic TV, sports and an occasional movie. Is there a decent soundbar you guys could recommend that would be an easy addition and look good as well.

Thanks.

The Yamaha YAS-101 is quite popular depending on your needs. Will look tiny next to that massive TV though! Geez!
post #408 of 869
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Looking to add a soundbar to my 80" Sharp which is wall mounted. Not interested in a sub as we really just watch basic TV, sports and an occasional movie. Is there a decent soundbar you guys could recommend that would be an easy addition and look good as well.

Thanks.

I wouldn't dismiss the sub just yet. I basically watch what you described above and the sub is a nice compliment. It's much different than it is in a standard surround system where the sub can be overpowering. It really adds to the experience and many are wireless so you can hide it nicely in the room.
post #409 of 869
I saw a Brand new Bowers and Wilkins Panorama(1st Gen) for $999 at a Bestbuy store near my home.
Should i go for it or Yamaha YSP-4100(also $999)?
My room is rectangle 16'x15' and 4 walls. It should be good for these soundbars.
I do 60% music and 40% movie.
I know both of those soundbars are great choice, and now they are all same price.
Just wondering which one should i pick up.

thank you guys
post #410 of 869
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Originally Posted by yhsieh91 View Post

I saw a Brand new Bowers and Wilkins Panorama(1st Gen) for $999 at a Bestbuy store near my home.
Should i go for it or Yamaha YSP-4100(also $999)?
My room is rectangle 16'x15' and 4 walls. It should be good for these soundbars.
I do 60% music and 40% movie.
I know both of those soundbars are great choice, and now they are all same price.
Just wondering which one should i pick up.

thank you guys

Depends - what connectivity do you need? Ysp is good for hdmi inputs and mock surround. B&W is awesome sound, particularly for music.
post #411 of 869
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

Depends - what connectivity do you need? Ysp is good for hdmi inputs and mock surround. B&W is awesome sound, particularly for music.
I don't really need those HDMI input since I can connect all HDMIs to my TV and out put via digital optical cable to soundbar. Let TV do the pass-through job.
So I must make a decision between surround sound(YSP4100) and sound quality(B&W panorama)?
Does B&W panorama really not that good at surround sound?
post #412 of 869
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Originally Posted by yhsieh91 View Post

I don't really need those HDMI input since I can connect all HDMIs to my TV and out put via digital optical cable to soundbar. Let TV do the pass-through job.
So I must make a decision between surround sound(YSP4100) and sound quality(B&W panorama)?
Does B&W panorama really not that good at surround sound?

Does your TV only output 2 channel audio? If so, you will have better results connecting all of your sources directly to the soundbar and then connecting the soundbar to your TV.
post #413 of 869
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Does your TV only output 2 channel audio? If so, you will have better results connecting all of your sources directly to the soundbar and then connecting the soundbar to your TV.
My TV is LG 55LM4600. Did some research and must people say it will pass-through 5.1 digital sound.
So I feel HDMI input doesn't really matter.
Went to bestbuy and listened to B&W Panoroma. The sound is definitely the best.
But not sure about the surround sound because the area isn't a close room.
Can't find a single demo YSP-4100 unit in NYC.
Decision between sound quality and surround sound... hmm..
Edited by yhsieh91 - 1/22/13 at 9:56am
post #414 of 869
I had same dilemma, I went for sound quality including at high volume and music streaming. I am actually very happy with 2.1 for music and 3.1 for movies. You only REALLY get great surround with dedicated amp / speakers, imo. I do think a sub is very important though. I went with HK sb30 as the deal I got was too good to pass up.

You might want to check that your tv passes 5.1 on all inputs - many only pass it from digital cable box and not other devices such as BR etc.
post #415 of 869
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

You only REALLY get great surround with dedicated amp / speakers, imo.

True. Which is why the Yamaha YHT-401soundbar deserves attention. It has outputs for two surround speakers and when I added them it blew the doors off of the YSP-2200 it replaced.
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I wouldn't dismiss the sub just yet. I basically watch what you described above and the sub is a nice compliment. It's much different than it is in a standard surround system where the sub can be overpowering. It really adds to the experience and many are wireless so you can hide it nicely in the room.

True. One of the main reasons for this is that soundbars usually don't have large mid-range speakers (if they have any at all) so the sub that comes with them is producing the low mid-range as well as the bass. You do want to hear the low mid-range. But you have to be careful with the location of the soundbar subs. Unlike very low bass, you can locate the source of low mid-range sounds so the sub needs to be near the TV. It gets strange when you start hearing the low mid-range coming from a corner of the room.
Edited by tkurkowski - 1/23/13 at 4:03am
post #416 of 869
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True. One of the main reasons for this is that soundbars usually don't have large mid-range speakers (if they have any at all) so the sub that comes with them is producing the low mid-range as well as the bass. You do want to hear the low mid-range. But you have to be careful with the location of the soundbar subs. Unlike very low bass, you can locate the source of low mid-range sounds so the sub needs to be near the TV. It gets strange when you start hearing the low mid-range coming from a corner of the room.

I'm sure that this isn't recommended but I have a HW-E450 soundbar and, because of the WAF factor, I have the sub behind the couch. It sounds good and actually creates a little bit of a surround effect. The couch isn't against the wall. There's about 3 feet behind the couch and the sub is next to a library table behind the couch.
post #417 of 869
I have a Panasonic 50GT50 that I just purchased and want to add a soundbar to get better sound when watching basic TV or from streaming through the TV (ie the TV will be the source). I have a dedicated AV system when watching movies etc, so I don't need a fancy soundbar; however I don't want to be turning on the entire sound system each time I watch tv - just my personal preference. I'm fine with the soundbar only being stereo and not simulated surround.

I don't need a sub and I'm already using the optical out from my TV for when I do want the full AV system being used for audio from TV sources. I believe that leaves me with using the HDMI2 connection with ARC or using the headphone jack ouput to power the sound bar. When we are using the TV apps for streaming, we are usually controlling it by the Viera link application on our phones rather than with the remote, so having the bar respond to that volume control would be ideal.

With that in mind - I think I'm limited to using the headphone out or a bar that will respond to viera link controls. Is that correct? or is there a volume level as well with the ARC portion? (I'm new to the ARC functions)

my budget is ~$200, but could stretch it to $300 to get the functionality we want, I doubt I can go much higher. The soundbar also needs to be wall mountable.

I was initially thinking about a vizio vsb202 but would like to get some input as to other options etc.
post #418 of 869
Asking for a friend, but what is the best soundbar under $200 for a relatively small room open to a dining room and kitchen. Sit about 6 feet from screen. Thanks
post #419 of 869
Hey everyone. Looking to get a soundbar for my dorm room.probably going to use it with a PS3 and 32 inch Samsung. Looking to spend $100,$150 max.
Some that I have taken note of:
Vizio sb4020m: $136.95, free two day shipping
Vizio vsb200 refurb: $79.99, free two day shipping
Phillips css2123b/f7: $97.20, free two day but currently out of stock.

Also an Audiosource for $90 bucks, a used Boston acoustics system for $144

I don't want to get something too expensive which would cause me to worry about people breaking in and stealing my sound system redface.gif. HDMI would be preferable, optical would be ok but I would like full functionality out of the PS3. Good number of ports/connectivity, and Bluetooth and USB would be nice but not needed. Don't really have a preference to subs, wireless, built in, wired. Is a sub even necessary for some of these models and with what I'm going to be using the system for?

Ideas? Opinions? And thank you very much for the help! First big audio purchase
post #420 of 869
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Originally Posted by trijohn View Post

Hey everyone. Looking to get a soundbar for my dorm room.probably going to use it with a PS3 and 32 inch Samsung. Looking to spend $100,$150 max.
Some that I have taken note of:
Vizio sb4020m: $136.95, free two day shipping
Vizio vsb200 refurb: $79.99, free two day shipping
Phillips css2123b/f7: $97.20, free two day but currently out of stock.

Also an Audiosource for $90 bucks, a used Boston acoustics system for $144

I don't want to get something too expensive which would cause me to worry about people breaking in and stealing my sound system redface.gif. HDMI would be preferable, optical would be ok but I would like full functionality out of the PS3. Good number of ports/connectivity, and Bluetooth and USB would be nice but not needed. Don't really have a preference to subs, wireless, built in, wired. Is a sub even necessary for some of these models and with what I'm going to be using the system for?

Ideas? Opinions? And thank you very much for the help! First big audio purchase

A subwoofer definitely adds to the experience.. At that price, connectivity will be limited, bluetooth will be out the window, and most won't have a sub. The Phillips is the only one with a sub so I would look there first.

Without knowing the model number of the last 2 you listed, I can't comment there.
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