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post #421 of 863
AudioSource S325 2.2 80 Watts RMS Speaker System
Boston Acoustics TVee Model 25 Sound System with Sleek Soundbar and Wireless Subwoofer (Black)

Ok, the Phillips. Can you walk me through what I would do to set it up and what cables I would need to connect my devices? AUX IN 1, Digital coaxial in*, Digital optical in, Subwoofer out. I think that this doesn't come with the needed cables.

What do you think about this? Samsung AudioBar HW-E350/ZA-RB Soundbar with Built-in Woofer. I like the HDMI and USB it comes with, but I was scared off initally by bad reviews citing ARC compatibility.
For this one, am I correct in thinking that setup would be one HDMI cable from PS3 to bar, and another HDMI from bar to TV?
post #422 of 863
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Originally Posted by trijohn View Post

AudioSource S325 2.2 80 Watts RMS Speaker System
Boston Acoustics TVee Model 25 Sound System with Sleek Soundbar and Wireless Subwoofer (Black)

Ok, the Phillips. Can you walk me through what I would do to set it up and what cables I would need to connect my devices? AUX IN 1, Digital coaxial in*, Digital optical in, Subwoofer out. I think that this doesn't come with the needed cables.

What do you think about this? Samsung AudioBar HW-E350/ZA-RB Soundbar with Built-in Woofer. I like the HDMI and USB it comes with, but I was scared off initally by bad reviews citing ARC compatibility.
For this one, am I correct in thinking that setup would be one HDMI cable from PS3 to bar, and another HDMI from bar to TV?

You are only connecting a PS3? I don't have 1 so just check the back of it and see what audio outputs it has. I would assume that the PS3 has an optical output so you could connect that from the PS3 to the Phillips. This will do the trick:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022901&p_id=1419&seq=1&format=2

I only heard the Samsung in the store and it sounded pretty good. I haven't read the reviews but, for your needs right now, ARC won't matter. You can just connect your PS3 to the HDMI IN on the soundbar and then connect HDMI OUT to the TV. Keep in mind that I believe that the USB port on the soundbar will only work for something like a flash drive. I don't believe that it will work for you to connect your phone charger cable and listen to music. For that, you can get something like this:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021816&p_id=9765&seq=1&format=2
post #423 of 863
Yes, PS3 has HDMI out and digitial optic out.

So the big question. The Phillips or the Samsung?
I've heard that bars with separate subs tend to sound better, but then I'll only be getting the optical audio instead of the HD on the Phillips. The Phillips has a jack for wired music playing, and I have an Aux cable so there is that.

The Samsung has the HDMI ports for full functionality with the PS3 and USB, I'm assuming it also has that Aux cable jack. However, the sub is built in. The wattage on the Samsung is higher.

They're both about the same price. $97.20 for the Phillips, new, free two day shipping. $99 for the Samsung, refurb, almost $8 for shipping.

I think the Phillips is the better choice?

Related questions. Does passive or powered matter in this case and I don't need a receiver for either one right? I don't have a receiver...
post #424 of 863
Samsung e450 is 219 at costco right now. Just put one in my cart for bedroom
post #425 of 863
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

Samsung e450 is 219 at costco right now. Just put one in my cart for bedroom

You're posting from the store? That's dedication.

They usually have the HW-E450C, which come with an HDMI and optical cable. Even better.
post #426 of 863
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

You're posting from the store? That's dedication.

They usually have the HW-E450C, which come with an HDMI and optical cable. Even better.

Yes, I was at store - and yes it was that one with the HDMI.
post #427 of 863
Folks, I posted this to Davyo almost two weeks ago. Dunno if he's on vacation, but since it's been a while and got no reply, I thought I'd share this with everyone and see if anyone can help me out.

I'm a home-theater enthusiast from Brazil, who's about to move out of my house in a couple of weeks. I'll be getting either a 51' or 60' inch TV for my living room and since it's not a huge apartment, I'm not bringing my 6.2 Sony Muteki HT with me.

I was in Florida for Xmas 2011-2012 and got a Panasonic SC-HTB10 120W 2.1-Channel Slim Sound Bar System with 3D Pass Through. Last of its kind @ Kmart. Brought it back to Rio, where I live, plugged it in and was quite surprised and pleased with the results, as well as the HDMI input.

After reading several of Davyo's posts, I noticed he mentions that one shouldn't worry about having HDMI on a soundbar. My fiancee is going once again to Florida in 3 weeks (1st week of February) and she'll get me another soundbar there. Thing is, there's no way to bring a true 2.1 system, so we can't have a subwoofer, it's too huge and bulky to bring on the plane, and there're no such things as soundbars available for purchase in Brazil (Philips tried, but it didn't catch on).

Naturally, I'd get another Panasonic, but those have been discontinued. I'm hooking up to my TV a PS3, the my cable TV box (provided by the cable TV company) and probably another HDMI device, such as a WDTV media player or something similar.

Since Davyo mentioned that optical and / or coaxial do the trick, I was wondering if getting a Yamaha YAS-101BL Front Surround System (http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YAS-101BL-Front-Surround-System/dp/B005IVUWHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358365581&sr=1-1&keywords=yamaha+sound+bar) would be a good option for me, since it decodes DTS and the like (no TrueHD and more recent one, but oh well...) Also, it'd be only 50 dollars more from what I paid for in the Panasonic, and the lack of subwoofer is just what I need. It'd be clicks away from Amazon delivering it to her house.

Would I be able to have some info, advice and the opinion from anyone that could help me on that? Are there better options out there that I'm unaware of?
I'm sorry for the long message, but I thought I'd give it a shot.

thanks in advance,

mojorabbit
post #428 of 863
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Originally Posted by bsaunder View Post

I have a Panasonic 50GT50 that I just purchased and want to add a soundbar to get better sound when watching basic TV or from streaming through the TV (ie the TV will be the source). I have a dedicated AV system when watching movies etc, so I don't need a fancy soundbar; however I don't want to be turning on the entire sound system each time I watch tv - just my personal preference. I'm fine with the soundbar only being stereo and not simulated surround.

I don't need a sub and I'm already using the optical out from my TV for when I do want the full AV system being used for audio from TV sources. I believe that leaves me with using the HDMI2 connection with ARC or using the headphone jack ouput to power the sound bar. When we are using the TV apps for streaming, we are usually controlling it by the Viera link application on our phones rather than with the remote, so having the bar respond to that volume control would be ideal.

With that in mind - I think I'm limited to using the headphone out or a bar that will respond to viera link controls. Is that correct? or is there a volume level as well with the ARC portion? (I'm new to the ARC functions)

my budget is ~$200, but could stretch it to $300 to get the functionality we want, I doubt I can go much higher. The soundbar also needs to be wall mountable.

I was initially thinking about a vizio vsb202 but would like to get some input as to other options etc.

In case anyone else is in the same situation - I ended up getting the Panasonic HTB20 soundbar and sub. I almost got the Boston Acoustic TV10 bar to use with the RCA inputs and the headphone out, however the Panasonic offered the auto power on and off by viera link when using the ARC HDMI. After 5 days of use, I can say it has worked great and pretty seamlessly. Every now and then the TV defaults to the TV speakers, but a quick trip to the menu to select viera link and speaker selection fixes it. Overall, I'm impressed with the quality of sound from the bar for the price paid.
post #429 of 863
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

You might want to take a look at the Toshiba SBX4250. It seems to meet most of your requirements. I don't know how well any soundbar will perform in an open setting with no close walls though.

Just curious, but why do you have your PS3 connected with both HDMI and optical? Or did I read that wrong?

A couple of quick notes on the Toshiba SBX4250, which I just purchased:
  1. I went with it because it combined a good price with integrated bluetooth and enough HDMI ports (2 in 1 out) to satisfy my requirements.
  2. Setup is really simple. The subwoofer paired with the soundbar without any user intervention on my part even though the manual says I'm supposed to push a button on the sub to make this happen. Connecting cables to the soundbar is slightly tricky because the ports are recessed and there's not alot of space in the recesses. So you have to bend the cables slightly but then they insert with no issues.
  3. My expectations for sound quality were low since Toshiba is not exactly a household name for audio components and definitely not speakers. But I have to say, I'm happy with the sound quality. Watching "Bourne Supremacy" BDP as I write this and it sounds great after a couple of quick adjustments. One critique is that it doesn't dynamically adjust sound levels. For quiet scenes, we keep turning up the volume only to turn it back down during louder action scenes. That can get pretty old watching a movie as dynamic as "Bourne"
  4. I can't yet figure out how the auto EQ settings work, but I do like the flexibility of being able to adjust bass level, subwoofer output and treble independently.
  5. Bluetooth paired and connected effortlessly with both my wife's and my iPhone, although not at the same time. Didn't even have to enter the 0000 code. That's where the fun sort of ends, however, because Bluetooth range is awful. If you are playing music from more than a few feet away, the sound frequently drops out. The good news is that once you are connected via bluetooth, the Toshiba remote allows you to play, pause, skip ahead or back through playlists, and of course adjust the audio levels.
  6. The unit doesn't come with a printed manual, you have to download it from the Toshiba web site. The manual is overly simple and doesn't provide information that would simplify certain tasks such as the difference between "surround" modes or what to expect for bluetooth range. In general, the user manual seems like an afterthought.

    The SBX4250 is selling at Best Buy for $299, which is not bad considering what you get. Actually I paid less than that, but it's a long story. I first tried out the Sony HTCT550W, which is slightly more expensive but doesn't sound quite as good as the Toshiba IMO. Also, the Sony has an extra component, the central control unit, which I found to be noisy although having it makes it slightly easier to set everything up. The Sony also has 3 HDMI in vs. 2 for the Toshiba and decodes DTS audio formats in addition to Dolby Digital. The Toshiba only does DD but that's certainly adequate for a 2.1 system. The Sony also has a built in FM tuner which I didn't try, but probably would use over time. Finally, the Sony does not support bluetooth which in the end we decided we wanted.

    Hope this mini review is helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to post here or send me a PM.
post #430 of 863
I am looking for a bar that can be used outside and get loud but still sound good.
post #431 of 863
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I am looking for a bar that can be used outside and get loud but still sound good.

Permanently? What sources do you have?
post #432 of 863
Well maybe. That's up for debate. I'm open to getting whatever I need. Right now I only have the tv out there.
post #433 of 863
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

Well maybe. That's up for debate. I'm open to getting whatever I need. Right now I only have the tv out there.

I'm not sure where you live and I haven't researched any soundbars meant to be out in the elements but I can't think that leaving it outside permanently is a good idea. Humidity alone would probably kill it pretty quickly. Is your TV meant for outside use? Is there permanent cover?
post #434 of 863
Folks, still nothing on this? I could really use some advice... Anyone?
thanks

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Originally Posted by mojorabbit View Post

Folks, I posted this to Davyo almost two weeks ago. Dunno if he's on vacation, but since it's been a while and got no reply, I thought I'd share this with everyone and see if anyone can help me out.

I'm a home-theater enthusiast from Brazil, who's about to move out of my house in a couple of weeks. I'll be getting either a 51' or 60' inch TV for my living room and since it's not a huge apartment, I'm not bringing my 6.2 Sony Muteki HT with me.

I was in Florida for Xmas 2011-2012 and got a Panasonic SC-HTB10 120W 2.1-Channel Slim Sound Bar System with 3D Pass Through. Last of its kind @ Kmart. Brought it back to Rio, where I live, plugged it in and was quite surprised and pleased with the results, as well as the HDMI input.

After reading several of Davyo's posts, I noticed he mentions that one shouldn't worry about having HDMI on a soundbar. My fiancee is going once again to Florida in 3 weeks (1st week of February) and she'll get me another soundbar there. Thing is, there's no way to bring a true 2.1 system, so we can't have a subwoofer, it's too huge and bulky to bring on the plane, and there're no such things as soundbars available for purchase in Brazil (Philips tried, but it didn't catch on).

Naturally, I'd get another Panasonic, but those have been discontinued. I'm hooking up to my TV a PS3, the my cable TV box (provided by the cable TV company) and probably another HDMI device, such as a WDTV media player or something similar.

Since Davyo mentioned that optical and / or coaxial do the trick, I was wondering if getting a Yamaha YAS-101BL Front Surround System (http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YAS-101BL-Front-Surround-System/dp/B005IVUWHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358365581&sr=1-1&keywords=yamaha+sound+bar) would be a good option for me, since it decodes DTS and the like (no TrueHD and more recent one, but oh well...) Also, it'd be only 50 dollars more from what I paid for in the Panasonic, and the lack of subwoofer is just what I need. It'd be clicks away from Amazon delivering it to her house.

Would I be able to have some info, advice and the opinion from anyone that could help me on that? Are there better options out there that I'm unaware of?
I'm sorry for the long message, but I thought I'd give it a shot.

thanks in advance,

mojorabbit
post #435 of 863
I am looking for a sound system for my parents. They went to a local electronics store and the salesman convinced them to buy a Bose Lifestyle 135 system for EUR 2,700. They were impressed by the sound and that the system doesn't require many speakers and cables. (I wrote about it in the Hifi forum.)

I don't think I can convince them of a 5.1 system. So I want to find a soundbar+subwoofer system, that is better than the Bose Lifestyle 135 but not as expensive (I read here and in other forums that the Bose system is overprized and not even that good).

- What soundbar system do you recommend (also see requirements below)?
- What would be better: 1.1 (soundbar+sub), 2.1 (L+R+sub), 3.1 (L+R+front/soundbar+sub)?

Here are some key pointers:
- EUR 1,500-1,700 budget max
- May be an "all-inclusive" system (soundbar, receiver, sub, remote) or using separate components
- Soundbar, subwoofer, AV receiver (can be part of the system or a separate AV receiver as long as it's in the budget)
- No cables
- Universal remote (can be a Harmony as long as it's in the budget)
- Pretty big and spacious living room
- Main application is listening to music and better TV sound (they don't bother with surround sound though)
- Sound that is at least as good as the Bose Lifestyle 135; "room filling" sound
post #436 of 863
If they like the sound of the Bose and they have the money, why replace it? Many people here have something against Bose. We could go on and on about that for some time. The bottom line for me is the sound.
post #437 of 863
SETUP:
TV Plasma Panasonic TC-P50C2
X-Box-360 (connected using component cables)
PS3 (connected using HDMI)
PC (connected using HDMI)
no cable atm, probably won't be if I do get cable I'll connect it using component cables

Anyways is it possible for all these devices to output sound to this sound bar? If so how would I go about this. Do I connect this sound bar to a Digital Audio Output (optical) jack on my TV and all my stuff gets sound? If that's the case why is there some sound bars with like 4 HDMI ports?

I want to spend no more than 300. Also something that really is bugging me will I be able to control the sound with my TV remote? if not do universal remotes do the job ?
Should I stay away from the 100 dollar sound bars? what about 200? and so on?
post #438 of 863
I'm getting a 42" Panasonic plasma TV for my 15' by 20' living room and would like to get a soundbar for better sound. I'm not expecting miracles, just something with some more kick.

WireCutter had me thinking Vizio VHT215 , then I thought maybe a Panasonic would integrate better. I've tried searching, but I think I'm just complicating my search and confusing myself, so I'd like to ask for a recommendation or two.

Here's my criteria:

1. Around $300.

2. I won't have a receiver, just a cable box, AppleTV and maybe an Xbox. I'd like something that's basically plug-and-play and will automatically turn on/off with the TV and switch to the right source without hassle.

3. I don't care if it requires power.

4. I'll probably need a wireless subwoofer.

5. Less than 40" wide would be ideal. I'm working with an in-wall cavity, hence why I'm settling for 42".

Thanks for any help offered and sorry if I left our some vital information.
post #439 of 863
I to am in the market for a soundbar. I have a old bose 321, and am looking at the higher end models such as the panorama 2, the martin logan vision, the definitive technology xtr, the outlaw, or one of the yamaha projectors. I can get a zvox 580 for $360 if people think the sound is good enough. Looking to connect my sonos, so music is important as well! Thoughts, an advice would be much appreciated?
post #440 of 863
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Originally Posted by sophie71 View Post

I to am in the market for a soundbar. I have a old bose 321, and am looking at the higher end models such as the panorama 2, the martin logan vision, the definitive technology xtr, the outlaw, or one of the yamaha projectors. I can get a zvox 580 for $360 if people think the sound is good enough. Looking to connect my sonos, so music is important as well! Thoughts, an advice would be much appreciated?
I just picked up a Solo Cinema for a great price and I love it. Blu-Rays sound amazing and the HDMI inputs and DTSHD decoding are a big plus IMO. It has a great look and a thin profile, the wireless sub sounds alot better than it thought it would too. Go to BB and listen to all the sounds bars, that's what I did. All of the high end ones sound good, it comes down to what you like,what you need and what you can afford smile.gif.
post #441 of 863
Been contemplating switching from a receiver/multiple speaker set-up to a sound bar as of late. Currently have a Denon AVR-1612 w/ Athena Micra 6 setup, but given the space limitations of our new place we aren't currently using the rear channels and the front channels are pretty much right in front of the side of each TV on the stand. Started looking into speaker stands, but with a baby that may be walking in 5-6 months, speaker stands aren't really the obstacles i'd like her to grab onto smile.gif

Would switching to a ~$500 sound bar be an upgrade from our current setup?
post #442 of 863
ok guys, I got a 55LM4600 for the bedroom and I don't have room for a full 5.1 setup in there (especially near the front). was thinking of the Sony HCT-60 from costco and hadn't seen much reviews on that particular one. I was also wondering if the HCT60 had a sub out where I could attach an external sub to sometime down the road (probably build a tapped horn or something like a mini THT to stick under the bed or use as a nightstand for the sub requirements

if not (or even if SO) is there a universally recommended sb that's considered the best bang for your buck for a bedroom TV?
Edited by wormraper - 2/15/13 at 9:26am
post #443 of 863
Hi guys,
Just got a new tv and my HTPC parts are on their way. Right now I have my gaming rig temporarily hooked up to my TV. One thing that is bothering me is the sound. The sound is GOOD, however, I am getting frustrated with the clarity of voices. I'm sure you have all experienced this before. Wall-rattling action scenes where you have to jump on the remote to turn it down, and whisper-quiet dialogue where you have to jack the volume way up to hear anything. I have improved things by messing with the EQ but it's still not ideal.

If I want to control everything through my harmony remote, I am guessing the best option would be a sound bar, correct?
What do people think?

I am not looking to spend much, and i share a wall with my neighbours so alot of bass is out of the question. Here are some options i came across:

Samsung http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/S...-3500%20CA
Vizio http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/S...u=V25-7016
Sony http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/sony...25be23en02

thoughts?
post #444 of 863
one week and 4 days without any tips, any help would be highly appreciated guys smile.gif
post #445 of 863
Hi All,

i am on the hunt for a resonalbly price sound bar with 2 or more HDMI inputs.

I have been searching extensively on the net and walking into my local stores lke richer sounds, maplins, etc...
I ahppened to come across this gem or what im hoping is a gem of a sound bar.

My room is 21ft by 18ft so not exactly that big im thinking this might be the perfect solution to my issue as i have

3 inputs

Virgin Media Tivo
Sony 3D blu ray
Xbox 360

1 out put

Optoma HD33 Dlp full HD 1080p 3D projector.

the bar im currently looking at is a

LG NB2520A 80W Soundbar - this comes with a built in sub for added base but it contains the 3 x HDMI inputs that would help me get rid of my switch box i currently use.
Cheapest i have found this is in Richer Sounds for £169.
Now i sit here typing this wondering what could be so wrong with this item for me to find it with 3 HDMI ins and 1 HDMI Out and the price to be half of what i have found on any other sound bar containing 2+ HDMI Inputs.
Do any of you have any experaiance on this one?

My other option at present is the sleek looking Samsung HW-E551/XU soundbar which i have found to only contain 2 HDMI inputs which i can live with and coems in at £269
post #446 of 863
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Originally Posted by chris1neji View Post

SETUP:
TV Plasma Panasonic TC-P50C2
X-Box-360 (connected using component cables)
PS3 (connected using HDMI)
PC (connected using HDMI)
no cable atm, probably won't be if I do get cable I'll connect it using component cables

Anyways is it possible for all these devices to output sound to this sound bar? If so how would I go about this. Do I connect this sound bar to a Digital Audio Output (optical) jack on my TV and all my stuff gets sound? If that's the case why is there some sound bars with like 4 HDMI ports?

I want to spend no more than 300. Also something that really is bugging me will I be able to control the sound with my TV remote? if not do universal remotes do the job ?
Should I stay away from the 100 dollar sound bars? what about 200? and so on?

Alot of questions in one post, which may explain why the response took so long, but here goes:

1. It's likely that you can get a soundbar that will handle audio from all 3 of your sources.
2. There are two ways to do it: A) connect all your sources to the TV and then run the optical out to the soundbar, or B) if the soundbar does have HDMI, connect your sources to the soundbar and then connect the soundbar to the TV via the soundbar's HDMI out. In that case, the HDMI out is only used for video to the TV. In the HDMI scenario, you'd connect the PS3 and PC to the soundbar via HDMI and for the X-box, you'd run the L/R audio in to either L/R RCA or 3/8" line in from a Y cable. The X-Box would then connect to the TV via the RGB component cables. The soundbar would handle the HDMI switching between the PS3 and PC. If the soundbar has HDMI I/O, then you wouldn't need the digital audio connection from the TV. In scenario A, you would use the optical out from the TV into the soundbar.
3. The reason for HDMI in a soundbar is so you have a single point of control although I believe some soundbars will decode digital surround sources like DD or DTS and output using whatever surround simulation technique they use. Mine (Toshiba SBX4250) does that, although quite honestly, if you really want surround sound, use an AVR and a 5.1 or better speaker setup. When you use the digital optical out from the TV, the soundbar is usually only processing a stereo signal from the TV, but that's not necessarily a bad thing considering it's a soundbar and not a full 5.1 speaker setup.
4. I personaly haven't seen any <$300 soundbars with 4 HDMI ports (3 in, 1 out) but you may be able to find one.
5. I prefer a separate subwoofer, which probably means something in the $200-300 range. I haven't listened to a $100 soundbar, so can't vouch for them but to some extent you get what you pay for. In just about every case, you will get better sound from a soundbar than you will from the built in speakers.

Hope this all makes sense. My .02 (and then some!) biggrin.gif
post #447 of 863
Hello, looking for a budget soundbar for a kids' play room. Trying to stay in the $300 or less range, but will go slightly higher if necessary. Unit will be paired with a 40" Samsung LED.

Priority is a unit with a solid front or rigid grills. Concerned about wandering hands damaging fabric grills or speakers. Was all set to buy the Sony 260 but it has a material front that a child could easily damage. Next choice was Samsung 450, but it has exposed tweeters so that's a problem as well.

Would like decent sound quality, but willing to compromise as this is not the main home theater room. HDMI connectivity not a big priority; more concerned with ease of use (i.e. volume adjustment from main remote).

Thanks in advance!
post #448 of 863
I have the chance to pick up a 1 year old JVC TH-BA1 soundbar for $100 on craigslist. is that a fair price or should I try to bargain him lower?
post #449 of 863
Does the Bose sr1 work well with a Panasonic VT? How about bluray player? Give me some ideas for a bar and a player for this Plasma. I do appreciate your help.
post #450 of 863
Hi.
I am primarily interested in a passive sound bar with surround speakers. The only ones that I have found so far are by Definitive Technology. I have listened to their Mythos XTR SSA-5 ultra thin. I was not impressed by it. Also, this sound bar does not seem to have good reviews overall. The other one they make is Mythos SSA-50 which seems to have much better review. However, I haven't found it on display anywhere close by to be able to listen to it.

I have also looked at Martin Logan Motion Vision which is actually a powered sound bar. It sounds much better than Mythos XTR SSA-5. So here is the question: Has anyone listened to both Mythos SSA-50 and Martin Logan Motion Vision, and how do they compare?

Thanks in advance.
Regards.
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