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post #211 of 267
8/14/12 at 8:55am
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No. Shimmering is bad. Don't make me call out the big gun. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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OK, you got me there.biggrin.gif

A couple of weeks back I re-watched the Blade series (after buying the new BDs).
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post #212 of 267
8/14/12 at 7:34pm
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You have "larger attachments" (as David Hobbs would say) than I....
I'll be renting first.
The plot (as I read it) makes me think this may be designed for the Twilight crowd than others....wink.gif
I think you would be pleasantly surprised by the effectiveness of the plot. I read all three books in The Hunger Games Trilogy and thoroughly enjoyed them. I saw the film in IMAX and although I didn't like its excessive use of extreme closeups and quick cuts, I thought it was excellent in other ways. Jennifer Lawrence was outstanding as the intrepid heroine, Katniss Everdeen, and the supporting cast was excellent too, particularly Woody Harrelson and Elizabeth Banks. I preordered the BD from Amazon so should have it in hand soon.
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post #213 of 267
8/15/12 at 12:13am
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I think you would be pleasantly surprised by the effectiveness of the plot. I read all three books in The Hunger Games Trilogy and thoroughly enjoyed them. I saw the film in IMAX and although I didn't like its excessive use of extreme closeups and quick cuts, I thought it was excellent in other ways. Jennifer Lawrence was outstanding as the intrepid heroine, Katniss Everdeen, and the supporting case was excellent too, particularly Woody Harrelson and Elizabeth Banks. I preordered the BD from Amazon so should have it in hand soon.
To be honest, I am very tempted to Blind Buy.

I haven't read the books and have little inkling (just a rough sketch) into the plot.

This bothers me though: "excessive use of extreme closeups and quick cuts."
I really REALLY hate that B.S. cost-cutting form of filmmaking.mad.gif

The cast is a BIG plus....some of my favorite actors.

So, ultimately....I dunno.confused.gif

However, I DID put it at the top of my NF queue.
If I am wowed, I'll buy.wink.gif
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post #214 of 267
8/15/12 at 6:52am
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To be honest, I am very tempted to Blind Buy.
I haven't read the books and have little inkling (just a rough sketch) into the plot.
This bothers me though: "excessive use of extreme closeups and quick cuts."
I really REALLY hate that B.S. cost-cutting form of filmmaking.mad.gif
The cast is a BIG plus....some of my favorite actors.
So, ultimately....I dunno.confused.gif
However, I DID put it at the top of my NF queue.
If I am wowed, I'll buy.wink.gif
I probably should reiterate that the extreme closeups and quick cuts were bad. The film was so good in every other way, though, that I ended up liking it a lot. Because you still subscribe to NF I think your plan to rent the BD before you decide whether to buy it is is probably the way for you to go.
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post #215 of 267
8/15/12 at 9:08am
Can someone perhaps in the dvd business why in the heck is this released on the 18th this sat? I mean what kind of weird date to release such a big film on a sat and not the usual Tue. I hope this is not a bad omen for disappointment as need something to wash out the 2 hr I just wasted with The Raid...D+
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post #216 of 267
8/15/12 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Can someone perhaps in the dvd business why in the heck is this released on the 18th this sat? I mean what kind of weird date to release such a big film on a sat and not the usual Tue.
Couldn't agree more. The Saturday release date left me scratching my head too.
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post #217 of 267
8/15/12 at 10:20am
It's because Lionsgate is wanting to create a circus atmosphere over the release. It's getting harder and harder to stir up excitement for films these days, so putting it on an odd day of the week and doing it at midnight breaks the tradition and harks back to the movie's theatrical midnight release. All to suggest that the film is "special."

Bottom line, marketing.
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post #218 of 267
8/15/12 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

No. Shimmering is bad. Don't make me call out the big gun. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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LOVE that pic! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

OK, you got me there.biggrin.gif
A couple of weeks back I re-watched the Blade series (after buying the new BDs).
NO question, The Man Vamp kicks a$$ and takes names...wink.gif

Geuss I never saw the Blade flics and just picked up 1 and 3 to get the Dark Knight Rises $5 vouchers. Pretty cool deal. Paid $4.99 for the movies, after trading in some old DVD's, then used the $5 voucher against my DKR movie tickets. So they paid me $.02 total to buy the blurays.tongue.gif

Just got to the first and enjoyed it. Heard they go down in quality after that but no big deal.
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post #219 of 267
8/15/12 at 11:59am
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I probably should reiterate that the extreme closeups and quick cuts were bad. The film was so good in every other way, though, that I ended up liking it a lot. Because you still subscribe to NF I think your plan to rent the BD before you decide whether to buy it is is probably the way for you to go.

They mentioned in the bluray review thread that rental versions are NOT lossless 7.1, but DD5.1. Anyone else heard this?
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post #220 of 267
8/15/12 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

They mentioned in the bluray review thread that rental versions are NOT lossless 7.1, but DD5.1. Anyone else heard this?

I have not heard this. If it's true that's pretty lame. Good thing I have my Steelbook coming.biggrin.gif
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post #221 of 267
8/15/12 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

I have not heard this. If it's true that's pretty lame. Good thing I have my Steelbook coming.biggrin.gif

Well, you got that going for you...which is nice.smile.gif

Guess I will find out Saturday. The audio is supposed to be pretty good for this but no chance the room full of teenage girls in my theater will care either way.eek.gifwink.gif
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post #222 of 267
8/15/12 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

They mentioned in the bluray review thread that rental versions are NOT lossless 7.1, but DD5.1. Anyone else heard this?

I hope this is not true!
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post #223 of 267
8/15/12 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Well, you got that going for you...which is nice.smile.gif
Guess I will find out Saturday. The audio is supposed to be pretty good for this but no chance the room full of teenage girls in my theater will care either way.eek.gifwink.gif

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post #224 of 267
8/15/12 at 9:04pm
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I hope this is not true!

Will be watching this tonight. I have a look if it is.
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post #225 of 267
8/15/12 at 9:42pm
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Will be watching this tonight. I have a look if it is.

I think it's just rental copies they're referring to.
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post #226 of 267
8/15/12 at 10:16pm
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This bothers me though: "excessive use of extreme closeups and quick cuts."
I really REALLY hate that B.S. cost-cutting form of filmmaking.mad.gif
- I really doubt it was a cost cutting decision. The movie had quite a budget and it shows in set and costume design. It was most likely a stylistic choice to avoid the violence being too graphic.
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post #227 of 267
8/16/12 at 12:27am
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post


Just got to the first and enjoyed it. Heard they go down in quality after that but no big deal.
The AV quality of the series is the least with the 1st one.....if that is what you mean.
If not, the 1st is the best of the bunch.wink.gif

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I really doubt it was a cost cutting decision. The movie had quite a budget and it shows in set and costume design. It was most likely a stylistic choice to avoid the violence being too graphic.
Quick cutting, shakey-cam, and extreme close-ups HIDE things like cheap backgrounds, cheap costumes, cheap sets, etc.
A talented editor and/or director can make anything LOOK or SEEM like a million bucks.

From a studio's POV, movies are about maximum ROI (like everything in capitalism).
It's important to keep that in mind.wink.gif
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post #228 of 267
8/16/12 at 6:25am
Let's hope the director change will get rid of shaky-cam. There's plenty of PG-13 movies with brutality that don't employ that technique so I don't see the need.

I'm likely in the minority but I found the books to get better as they went along. I'm personally a huge Mockingjay fan. I understand and even agree with many of the complaints but it was the first book in a long time that had strong emotional impact on me.
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post #229 of 267
8/16/12 at 7:18am
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Let's hope the director change will get rid of shaky-cam. There's plenty of PG-13 movies with brutality that don't employ that technique so I don't see the need.
I'm likely in the minority but I found the books to get better as they went along. I'm personally a huge Mockingjay fan. I understand and even agree with many of the complaints but it was the first book in a long time that had strong emotional impact on me.

Yes, there are plenty of PG13 that depict brutality, but how many of them are using young teenagers as the perps and victims?
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post #230 of 267
8/16/12 at 7:49am
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Yes, there are plenty of PG13 that depict brutality, but how many of them are using young teenagers as the perps and victims?

Good point - I don't know the answer to that one.
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post #231 of 267
8/17/12 at 2:18pm
Time has come finally and netflix just shipped it out today so hopefully this will be a good weekend. Be back tom and give my take if it was worth the big hype.
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post #232 of 267
8/17/12 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Quick cutting, shakey-cam, and extreme close-ups HIDE things like cheap backgrounds, cheap costumes, cheap sets, etc.
A talented editor and/or director can make anything LOOK or SEEM like a million bucks.
From a studio's POV, movies are about maximum ROI (like everything in capitalism).
It's important to keep that in mind.wink.gif
- Agreed, but in this movie, I don't think that's the case. For example, one of the worst shaky cam sequences is during the selection of the District 12 tributes. The town is very simple and the stage is also simple. The use of shaky cam isn't used to hide the set. Same with the actual set of the Hunger Games. Most of the action takes place in or around wooded areas, so there's no set to hide. The costumes in the actual games are also very simple.
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post #233 of 267
8/17/12 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Time has come finally and netflix just shipped it out today so hopefully this will be a good weekend. Be back tom and give my take if it was worth the big hype.
This got big hype? Only worth while aspect of this move was Elizabeth Banks... the rest of it was like a new spin on The Running Man with less humor, less violence, more CG, and more cheeeezzzzz.
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post #234 of 267
8/17/12 at 5:28pm
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Time has come finally and netflix just shipped it out today so hopefully this will be a good weekend. Be back tom and give my take if it was worth the big hype.
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- Agreed, but in this movie, I don't think that's the case. For example, one of the worst shaky cam sequences is during the selection of the District 12 tributes. The town is very simple and the stage is also simple. The use of shaky cam isn't used to hide the set. Same with the actual set of the Hunger Games. Most of the action takes place in or around wooded areas, so there's no set to hide. The costumes in the actual games are also very simple.
As luck would have it, NF has sent me a copy and I will be able to check it out tomorrow nite.
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post #235 of 267
8/17/12 at 8:56pm
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As luck would have it, NF has sent me a copy and I will be able to check it out tomorrow nite.

Rumor has it the rental discs will only have lossy audio.
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post #236 of 267
8/18/12 at 12:30am
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Rumor has it the rental discs will only have lossy audio.
That would be friggin' insulting....to say the least.
I'll let you know tomorrow what my Oppo says.wink.gif
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post #237 of 267
8/18/12 at 7:01am
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That would be friggin' insulting....to say the least.
I'll let you know tomorrow what my Oppo says.wink.gif

Well I hope this is a succesful blind buy for me, decided to watch tonight instead.
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post #238 of 267
8/18/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Rumor has it the rental discs will only have lossy audio.
The only rental BD that I can confirm came with only lossy audio was Red (2010). To say that I was not a happy camper when i discovered what had been done would understate the case.smile.gif
Edited by gwsat - 8/18/12 at 1:16pm
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post #239 of 267
8/18/12 at 9:57am
I've reserved a Blu-ray rental at Redbox and will watch tonight. If the rental has a lossey 5.1 soundtrack it's just a move against people who rip off copies. My wife read the books and is the one interested in this, we never bothered to see it in the theater.
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post #240 of 267
8/18/12 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

That would be friggin' insulting....to say the least.
I'll let you know tomorrow what my Oppo says.wink.gif

What is the Oppo saying? Let me guess, DD 5.1.

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Well I hope this is a succesful blind buy for me, decided to watch tonight instead.

Looking forward to your thoughts.
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The only rental BD that I confirm came with only lossy audio was Red (2010). To say that I was not a happy camper when i discovered what had been done would understate the case.smile.gif

And they're both Summit releases. Yes, I know Lionsgate bought Summit, but they're still sticking to the lossy MO.
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