Why the hatred for DLP?

Ignorance is my first reaction.

DLPs do what they do very well and for now if one is looking for a BIG tv DLP is at the top of the list.

For better or worse I think mitsubishi's DLP days are coming to an end (maybe 2-5 years or so). The other techs are visually supierior (not that dlps are bad mind you) and they are starting to encroach on dlp sizes at affordable levels. The new 92 incher is great, but I think any bigger justifies a projector set up.
The day is coming when plasma and lcd will be very affordable at 75+inches and dlp rear projection sets will go the way of the dinosaur.

Now as far as dismissing current dlp sets as crap is just wrong. Mitsu sets have a very good picture and outshine the others in certain areas. I own a 65738 and love it and have my eye on the 92 as my next set.

Nothing is bullet proof. Dlp is the new kid on the block and repairs are expensive and common. Bulbs, ballasts, and the little Dlp chip are common repairs I've heard of costing between $100 and $600 on average. Considering I saw some decent looking LCD tvs at walmart today that were 55"+ for around $1200 it doesn't make sends to go Dlp. LCD is a mature technology and while im sure bulbs do burn out, I've never had it happen even on my pentium 1 laptop. Look around at all the faqs about changing a Dlp bulb then try to find an equal amount for LCD. When I can buy a new LCD for about twice the cost of a bulb and light engine, which one do you think im going to chose? Btw, im using LCD as an example since I have limited experience with plasma. My preferred display is crt as it doesn't motion blur or pixilate as bad as any digital display I've seen but they are big, heavy, and nearly out of production

The fact is most are just uninformed on there choices these days, The bombardment of technology over the last decade has been over whelming for the average consumer most when they see my 73738 are unaware of its exsistance, and wait to you tell them the priceMy personal take is dlp is here to stay, the one box solution will always be first choice just look at receiver sales vs. separates. After replacing my 64inch crt with the 73738 and not lcd or plasma, I'll argue till blue in the face over which is better or red lol.

Most DLP hatred comes from people that have owned them. It has nothing to do with picture quality, but the fact that the sets were unreliable, and repair costs high.

Anybody that ever bought a DLP set had to factor in the cost of an extended warranty with the purchase price of their set. If they were wise, they also bought a lamp warranty, if the extended warranty didn't cover it.

One of the selling points of DLP technology was that the set would last long term and that by replacing the lamp every few years you got that new set picture quality renewed. Unfortunately, due to the use of cheap parts, many moving parts in the sets, and long term damage to the DLP chips due to heat, the sets died young and were expensive to repair.

I've owned one, loved the pq, but would never buy another DLP based product.

inuyasha-rules completely inaccurate post about sums it up. Ignorance.

The fact is, any type of TV can break down and need repairs. My brother-in-law got a new Samsung LCD about the same time I bought a Mitsubishi DLP. His barely turns on anymore and mine looks like a brand new set since I just replaced the bulb for $60. Proper airflow and cool ambient room temperature go a long way towards extending the life of a TV.

There are alot of techphiles, audiophiles, and videophiles around here. That's not a knock of this place I love it for the advice and help. But some people have to have the absolute best and if it's not incredible they will knock it.

Ofcourse a large DLP will not give you the insane detail, color, and sharpness of a smaller LED or Plasma. But they provide a great big picture for a bargain price. My most expensive speaker system happens to be around my large DLP, not my plasma.

You know why this isn't true??? Ultra HD. When resolutions go up to 3840x2160 in a few years, plasma and LCD will be back up in price where they are now and the cycle will continue. (Or OLED might actually hit the market and be VERY expensive.) This is where Mits could get a jump on them if they started releasing these early with some kind of scaler chip to up convert till next gen content could be released. Just my opinion. And what I would actually do. Remember, they have had 3D ready tv's 2 or 3 years before LCD or plasma did.

Actually, after looking at the 4K DLP Chips, looks like a basic cpu chip upgrade, like on a personal computer. Would be nice if that were the case. After reading this page, this is where Mits will be headed, no doubt.

http://www.dlp.com/cinema/dlp-enhanced-4k/default.aspx

Bytor prove how im wrong. The proof that im right is everyone on here posting about lights going out, the Dlp chips going out, and so on. And yes any thing can break. Reread the first sentence of my post. Dlp from my point of view is like a girlfriend. They look good and are fun but they are high maintenance and expensive.

Lbear believe it or not they had samsungs and songs for about $100 cheaper than vizio. Wasn't really looking for a tv but a friend of mine was and I bumped into him. And no im not getting any more detailed since there's a rule against posting pricing.

Draven you are right and wrong. I see the main problem being producing that many pixels in one sheet since most consumers wont tolotate bad pixels. I remember when if there were less than 5 bad ones total or 3 together it was considered good by dell at least. But overall fixed pixel technology has a limited life span before its out of date, compared to crt projection that was around long before 1080 was king, and handles it just fine

The problem is that it's still an RPTV, and all RPTVs have that characteristic rear projection look (and poor viewing angles) that just scream "ancient" and low-quality.

Front projection is not rear projection.

My argument is that the picture just doesn't look good. It doesn't have anything to do with how the box itself looks, though that is indeed a factor as well.

Like DLP if you want, I don't care either way. Rear projection just, as I said, has that characteristic rear projection look that just looks old. Something about shining an image through a projection screen.

I'v had a Mitsubishi DLP since 2007. Under $2000 at the time, and I have spent about around $200 on it since then. My son had one as well, and sold it to his sister when he upgraded for size. That TV has about the same $2200 invested in it, and is still going strong.

$2200 for over 4 years of quality TV viewing doesn't seem high maintenance or expensive to me.

Time to crawl out of the cave and see what RPTV is like today.

It's not really that different. I don't hate DLP, but I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would buy a DLP other than the fact that it's the cheapest technology.

Yes, the picture can be very good technically. Great color, great tonal balance, great motion, great contrast. But you're still looking at a picture being projected through a projection screen. It looks old-fashioned and just lacks the overall feel of a direct-view or front projection unit.

So for the OP, that's the answer. A lot of people simply dislike that 'quality' of a RP set. And the boxes are, honestly, big and ugly.

It's obvious from your statements that you fell for the whole "thin is in" marketing. For me substance is more important than appearance.

Instead of "old-fashioned, big, and ugly", how about "fashionable, big, and beautiful"?

Give me a break. I have an opinion that is clearly different from yours. I strongly dislike the look of an image being projected through a projection screen from behind. That doesn't mean I'm obviously completely mistaken and have been sucked in by clever marketers. If that were the case, I'd think that LED TVs were better than plasma....

It's amusing, though, that you followed up your "you fell for the marketing" line with..... a ridiculously unrealistic and exaggerated marketing image.

The comments quoted were obviously about the look of the exterior of the TV, but you're welcome to your opinion.

The only thing unrealistic about the marketing image is the standard simulated picture that every TV company uses.

If you don't like that image, how about a "real" one?



Looks pretty sweet to me. (And check out the bezel surrounding the picture, compared to 2-3 inches on a typical flat screen.) Hardly old-fashioned or ugly, IMHO. (but definitely big!) http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1340721

No, they weren't. The "old-fashioned" and "rear-projection look" comments were 100% about the picture itself. I can understand why you thought I was talking about the sets themselves, as I didn't really make it clear.

I am strictly criticizing the picture quality of DLP. It's the characterstic look of an image projected through a screen that I find particularly distasteful, compared to high quality plasma and front projection.

I am happy that you are pleased with your TV, though. Who wants to think they own something substandard?

My apologies, then. You seemed to be describing this.



For the record, the picture quality is excellent, despite your remarks to the contrary. Enjoy your five year old 720P plasma.

the hatred towards dlp is all due to marketing. with people being constantly told they need to get the thinnest biggest picture they can fit through their door, its no wonder people scoff at a tv that looks like a blown up version of the very tv everyone was told to get rid of. with a side by side comparison of the same picture, a properly set dlp and plasma/lcd/whatever will look very similar. the only 2 major differences are physical size and price.

The Dlp picture I see is nothing short of breath taking and at times and boggles my mind that its so big and yet has razor sharp detail. It has a cinematic feel ( not just from size) that no Plasma or Lcd ( own one) can match in my book As a videophile my vote goes to Dlp

So haters get no love here!

Johnathan if you don't like rear projection in general due to huge misconceptions why are you trolling the rear projection forum?

Maybe Dlp isn't as bad as I thought it was which is in large part due to the threads on this forum. But when you consider I got my crt rear projection for $200 and its a 2002 that's all original I see $200 in maintenance as being high. Plus the fact that its probably larger in every single way but hight and thickness for sure anyways how about a new tangent. Sound quality. I haven't yet seen a thin screen tv that can deliver the mids and bass as accurately as a big ugly box style tv. And by thin I mean less than 12" thick. 2k for a tv plus $? For a sound system to get decent sound? Call me a tight wad if you want. Keep in mind OP was asking why people hate Dlp and hate is an emotion which is just like an opinion.

Come on man. I'm not trolling. The OP asked why people don't like DLP, and I'm trying to answer the question.

These are just TVs. Don't take this stuff personally. I'm not insulting you by saying I don't like DLPs.

Not sure why anyone would hate on DLP just to hate on them, but some of that hate might be from past problems (Example: Rainbows) with Rear Projection TVs. Shoot, I was guilty of this with Plasma while shopping for a new HDTV recently. I held burn in issue against new Plasmas, but have learned that's not such an issue these days. Sorta like some people still believe new DLP/RPTV have the same problems as past Rear projection TVs.

So far we love our 73740 Mitsubishi, and its picture is amazing. We never have been so immersed while watch TV like this before, that's for sure. We still can't believe the price we paid for this TV experience. My Wife had to go to the Hospital the other night, and the 4 Paramedics couldn't stop saying how great the TV looked. They where seriously taken a back by it, and Family/Friends have been the same way. When I told them we paid ($1,644) for the TV their jaws hit the floor. One guy said he thought we'd paid $4,000 - $6,000 dollars for it, and couldn't believe it only cost that much.

Some people are going to want a thin TV because that makes them happy or it works for their Home decor. Some of those LEDs TV have a great picture, but I couldn't live with with the Flashlighing & Clouding issues some (Edge-lit ones) have. It was a roll of the dice pretty much, and it knock them out of the running for our next TV purchase. It was down to 3D DLP or 3D Plasma, and the 73740 DLP won out in the end. No TV tech is perfect, but my advice is just find a TV that makes you happy. This 73740 DLP works for us, and we are so pleased with its picture. HD stuff really shines on this TV, and watching 3D/2D Movies is just breathtaking.