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post #10441 of 14509
What fun am I having with this TV and its video setting control. People have said the setting from one owner will not look the same on another's TV, sort of YMMV. I have found out this is also true for the different modes the TV has. Maybe this is known info for you but I have not read anything about this in the manual. Some search within the thread and did not seen anything specific about this either. Since I have spent a lot of time in trying things out to see how is this TV behaving with its different video modes. (Still don't get why it is called AV Mode when it is all video.)

These information may not be of interest to people that already have their set calibrated but your feedback on what you know about this set's video would be appreciated.

First I like to know what are the default settings for each mode. I put them into a spreadsheet. It is attached. Since modes all different defaults I am interesting to know do all Elite sets have the same defaults, say for Standard, Movie and Movie THX. By the way, I have the 70" model.

Second I plug in the settings (e.g. CNET) to the 3 modes that supports 10 pt setting (Standard, Movie and Movie THX). I was expecting the display will look the same between these three modes as they have the same custom settings, but no, my assumption was wrong. How the video looked very different between these three modes.
The only reason I have is that each mode is designed differently and the user setting is applied on top of that.

I can see why it is designed that way, but that is not how I would like it to be. If they are custom settable, then they should have the same base/reference point.

Elite70_AV_Defaults.xlsx 20k .xlsx file
post #10442 of 14509
The different names of the view modes indicate they behave differently, so you can pick the one best suited to your viewing habits. If they were simply multiple setting holders they'd probably be called something like View 1, View 2 and View 3.

I sympathize with you because I also would enjoy simply different setting holders for the same mode. One exception is the ISF settings Day and Night. They are exactly what you want - separate setting holders with the same mode behavior. I only wish they had Day, Afternoon and Night settings biggrin.gif. With ControlCAL you can save & load those ISF buckets.

Also note that the ISF settings have finer granularity. The biggest difference is in the Gamma setting. ISF has -20 to +20, 41 variances. The other modes have 5 possible variances for Gamma.

All Elites have the same default settings - they share the same firmware.

Enjoy your 70X5 - I sure do mine!
post #10443 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

YES and love it. Added depth and detail to the picture. The better the source the better the effect. I leave mine set on HD most of the time at 50. Going much higher makes the effect start to look over blown. Place after a Lumagen Radiance and it is additive to what the Radiance does. For those interested check the Video Processor thread.
This is unbelievable - you are disrupting the video from what the director expected you to see - the humanity eek.gif!
post #10444 of 14509
Could someone tell me (without being bias please) about the pros and cons of Kuro 9G vs Sharp Elite? For example, picture quality, blacks, shadow detail, viewing angles, issues, input lag info for gaming if available..etc

I already have a 50" Pioneer 9G Kuro (no I'm Not a Kuro fanboy) that I've owned since 2008 and want to upgrade for 2 reasons:

1- 50" is too small in my eyes after using the set for 4 years.
2- I've been getting the dreaded red tint issue with my Kuro so the image quality isn't what it used to be.

Since I don't want to just upgrade for size alone and I'd like my next HDTV (that's going to last me another 4-5 years) to be a clear step up in terms of picture quality as well, so far it seems the Sharp Elite is my best bet, but I've been hearing mixed thoughts about how it performs compared to the Kuro, thought I'd ask here and see what you guys got to say (the forum's search function for threads kinda sucks).
post #10445 of 14509
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

anyone try a Darbee Darblet DVP 5000 yet with an Elite?
I just bought one to try on my 70...

YES and love it. Added depth and detail to the picture. The better the source the better the effect. I leave mine set on HD most of the time at 50. Going much higher makes the effect start to look over blown. Place after a Lumagen Radiance and it is additive to what the Radiance does. For those interested check the Video Processor thread.

after playing around with settings, I think I agree with your comments

at first I did not see much difference, so I used the red 'full pop' setting and cranked it to 100: turning the efect on and off, it was easy to see significant additional detail (watching Olympics on NBC HD via DirecTV)

ended up with green HD setting some where between 35-50 (still tweaking)

still looking for any artifacts or added noise but so far it looks like it does improve the image

I admit to initially being a skeptic: years ago I tried the Belkin RazorVision Video Enhancer and was not impressed: it seemed to just add noise to the image.
post #10446 of 14509
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

after playing around with settings, I think I agree with your comments
at first I did not see much difference, so I used the red 'full pop' setting and cranked it to 100: turning the efect on and off, it was easy to see significant additional detail (watching Olympics on NBC HD via DirecTV)
ended up with green HD setting some where between 35-50 (still tweaking)
still looking for any artifacts or added noise but so far it looks like it does improve the image
I admit to initially being a skeptic: years ago I tried the Belkin RazorVision Video Enhancer and was not impressed: it seemed to just add noise to the image.

How was the effect when you used a standard DVD???
post #10447 of 14509
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

How was the effect when you used a standard DVD???

The lower the resolution in the source material the lower the improvement from the Dardee.
post #10448 of 14509
any good settings out there for the 70"?? i'll dig around, but was curious if anyone could supply one if easy.

i'm getting the best buys guys come later on to calibrate, but i'm not holding my breath..
post #10449 of 14509
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Could someone tell me (without being bias please) about the pros and cons of Kuro 9G vs Sharp Elite? For example, picture quality, blacks, shadow detail, viewing angles, issues, input lag info for gaming if available..etc
I already have a 50" Pioneer 9G Kuro (no I'm Not a Kuro fanboy) that I've owned since 2008 and want to upgrade for 2 reasons:
1- 50" is too small in my eyes after using the set for 4 years.
2- I've been getting the dreaded red tint issue with my Kuro so the image quality isn't what it used to be.
Since I don't want to just upgrade for size alone and I'd like my next HDTV (that's going to last me another 4-5 years) to be a clear step up in terms of picture quality as well, so far it seems the Sharp Elite is my best bet, but I've been hearing mixed thoughts about how it performs compared to the Kuro, thought I'd ask here and see what you guys got to say (the forum's search function for threads kinda sucks).

you could get killed for asking that question here:D

I have a Kuro and love it but the Elite is a different set altogether.Both have pluses and minuses.If you want bigger this is one set to consider
post #10450 of 14509
I'm one of the very lucky ones with some pronounced DSE/Banding on my (60") Elite, especially one thin band near the center of the screen. Since the FW update I've been noticing that the (the more pronounced) DSE/banding is now only visible during camera pans. So, when you put a gray pattern on, the problem is now much less obvious.

No I'm not 100% sure of this, but I suspect that after the firmware update, the TV is mitigating the DSE/Banding via processing. So much so that the bands are visible during camera pans, but as soon as the camera stops moving the distortion vanishes. If true, I have mixed feelings about it: on one hand it addresses the issue, on the other hand, it really only prevents you from taking a picture of it, but the problem is still there when the camera moves.

Anyone else noticing this?
Edited by guima - 8/6/12 at 9:22am
post #10451 of 14509
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Originally Posted by guima View Post

I'm one of the very lucky ones with some pronounced DSE/Banding on my (60") Elite, especially one thin band near the center of the screen. Since the FW update I've been noticing that the (the more pronounced) DSE/banding is now only visible during camera pans. So, when you put a gray pattern on, the problem is now much less obvious.
No I'm not 100% sure of this, but I suspect that after the firmware update, the TV is mitigating the DSE/Banding via processing. So much so that the bands are visible during camera pans, but as soon as the camera stops moving the distortion vanishes. If true, I have mixed feelings about it: on one hand it addresses the issue, on the other hand, it really only prevents you from taking a picture of it, but the problem is still there when the camera moves.
Anyone else noticing this?

No change on mine. The DSE on my set was mitigated once I entered the CNET settings. I am guessing that the lower color temp hides it somewhat. Its also possible that I have gotten used to it. It very rarely enters my concsiousness any more (I have had the set probably 10 months or so)
post #10452 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

Both have pluses and minuses.If you want bigger this is one set to consider

That's exactly what I need to know so I can make a decision lol, would be great if you could mention a few of those points.
post #10453 of 14509
I see some DSE occasionally but it's strictly in the content. I can tell because other scenes with similar lighting characteristics are totally clean even while panning. It's usually in some older shows in the dark areas, where it's harder to get a smooth image depending on recording equipment and medium.
post #10454 of 14509
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

That's exactly what I need to know so I can make a decision lol, would be great if you could mention a few of those points.

I have had my set for maybe four months now-give or take. I do experience the "pulsing" issue but it is very rare but it would be a lie to say non-existent. I have never experienced this when watching a blu-ray and I seem to only notice it every now and then on broadcast tv. I may notice pulsing in one scene once a week if that. Like the wind blowing the wheat in a field. It is there in a particular scene and then gone. It is not something you see in an entire movie. we are talking a single scene and periodically.

If the colors are not as accurate as can be from the ones that scream fowl every other post then I guess that makes me a non-videophile!! I have never noticed the color on any content that I am somewhat familiar with to be off and so distracting I may be forced to drink alcohol to calm my nerves. Once again, if not against a set with PERFECT color side by side you would be hard pressed to notice anything. Once again, according to the experts it is off. Fine. How much time do you want to disect it or do you want to watch a blu-ray and have an incredible experience? I know my choice....

I have a Sony XBR8 in my bedroom and perhaps it is a tiny bit better when watching SD. What can I say, there are a few channels I watch every now and then and there is not an HD equivalent. This is the ONLY plus I would give the XBR8 over my Elite. The Elite is of course bearable with SD but at 70 inches and the less than perfect SD channels can show their warts. No big deal as I bought this set for two things. Blu-ray disks and sports, followed by HD broadcast television.

Is this set perfect? No, but I will say when I am watching a blu-ray and with the incredible blacks and higher than average contrast ratio I am blown away. It is exactly what I thought it would be when purchased. Once you hit 70 inches it would be near impossible to go back. The picture quality is outstanding with blu-ray and HD broadcast when the broadcast is delivered at above average standards. Let's face it. Garbage in and garbage out and this set will let you know it.

Rick
Edited by Mr.SoftDome - 8/6/12 at 4:32pm
post #10455 of 14509
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Could someone tell me (without being bias please) about the pros and cons of Kuro 9G vs Sharp Elite? For example, picture quality, blacks, shadow detail, viewing angles, issues, input lag info for gaming if available..etc
I already have a 50" Pioneer 9G Kuro (no I'm Not a Kuro fanboy) that I've owned since 2008 and want to upgrade for 2 reasons:
1- 50" is too small in my eyes after using the set for 4 years.
2- I've been getting the dreaded red tint issue with my Kuro so the image quality isn't what it used to be.
Since I don't want to just upgrade for size alone and I'd like my next HDTV (that's going to last me another 4-5 years) to be a clear step up in terms of picture quality as well, so far it seems the Sharp Elite is my best bet, but I've been hearing mixed thoughts about how it performs compared to the Kuro, thought I'd ask here and see what you guys got to say (the forum's search function for threads kinda sucks).
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

you could get killed for asking that question here:D
I have a Kuro and love it but the Elite is a different set altogether.Both have pluses and minuses.If you want bigger this is one set to consider

That is an excellent question and one of great importance if you've become accustomed to the superior picture of the Kuro 9G- and of course, you don't mind paying for the best. I used to swear up and down to my friends that you'd have to pry my Kuro 60" from my cold dead fingers before I'd let it go- Loved the picture that much. Sure, I regularly attend CES and am always looking about for what's new and great. I'm not married to any particular brand name, I simply enjoy a good picture and have not been satisfied with other brand displays. I was in your shoes last year - looking to upgrade to a larger panel to fit my larger room- demod all the usual suspects from Sharp, Samsung, Sony, etc etc. Even was on a coveted waiting list for the "supposedly" upcoming Toshiba 65" 480hz set, which was getting rave prelimary reviews but turned into vaporware.

My dealer let me know about the Sharp Elite 70" and had a chance to demo it pre-release. he told me to grab my pocketbook because this was one panel worth upgrading to, and him saying that knowing full well about the 9G picture quality. I read, read,read all I could on it- checked out the various reviews and shootouts, and decided to give it a go. I can tell you with no small emphasis I am enjoying it as much as I ever enjoyed the 9G. I find the picture on par with, and in some cases, superior to the 9G. Some folks claim a lesser viewing angle than the 9G, and possibly there is, but you'd have to be sitting so far off center you would hate it no matter what type of display you owned. If you have to sit that far off axis, your room is too small and you need a smaller display. Or your room is too big and you need a cinema-sized projector screen. No equipment is going to make up for poor room layout, and choosing the wrong equipment can make a challenging room even worse. That's pretty much it.

The 80" Elite is upcoming- so you may want to wait until then as some pre-owned 70" Elites will certainly come available as folks upgrade. I can tell you that I personally will be upgrading, and to partially finance that will be selling my Elite 70" at a fair price. I had a look at the regular Sharp 80", and it is actually quite good. It's definitely a heck of a buy at it's retail price point. I can only imagine what the new Elite 80" will look like biggrin.gif.

Anyway, you will be very pleased with the Elite 70". You'll love the blacks. You'll love the lack of juddering inherent to LED sets (it is smooth, baby!). You'll love the deep rich colors and screen brightness. It could hold you for 4 years easy, assuming that 4k stays stuck in the mud. We are seeing 4k sets come out but the other technology (movie discs, players, processors, possibly even hdmi cables or another format of cable altogether, etc) needs to standardize and the movie houses need to lament over new "disc security" standards... so it could take years. 3D is a pathetic joke of a marketing ploy that is remaining firmly in the "novelty" category, but if you like 3D the Elite set knocks it out of the park. I have had zero issues with mine, and three other people I know who own one have not had any issues either. I'm not sure what the deal is with some of these sets having issues, as I've read here on the forum. If I had any banding or pulsing on my set, it would be going right back to the dealer for a replacement, end of story.

After doing your homework as you are doing now, the only real determining factor for you is to go and demo one at a reputable store. Your eye will be the best judge. You'll always hear mixed opinions because everyone perceives things differently.
Edited by k_lewis - 8/6/12 at 4:36pm
post #10456 of 14509
Thread Starter 
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Here is a Picture of my Elite Setup, thought I'd show everyone where I'm taking my pictures from.
PS: What does your setup look like?
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Here is an image I took while watching Star Trek again recently, the picture was compiled from more then one exposure taken in manual mode. (ISF-Night).
PS: More images are on the way, stay tuned just need to upload them. wink.gif
post #10457 of 14509
Thank you so much for the info Mr.SoftDome and specially k_lewis who pretty much convinced me to get an Elite lol

I don't mind viewing angles not being as good as the Kuro (I mean I know it wouldn't be me who'll sit in the corner of the room to watch some awesome blu-ray lol), as long as I don't see any contrast shifts while sitting on any of the normally placed 3 seat sofa that's right in-front of the TV, it's all good. Even though I'm not a freak when it comes to color accuracy (90%+ accurate is good enough for me), I do like to have dark deep blacks during low contrast scenes, grey-sh blacks drive me insane.

I'm not in a hurry to get the set since I tend to upgrade my HDTV with every new generation of video game consoles released to see what kind of technologies are released with it (plus I'm a huge video gaming fan), I expect those to arrive in mid or end of 2013 so I'll have to make a final decision by then.

As you can see I like to plan ahead lol, did the same thing with the Kuro, the 80" Elite sure sounds great but 70" will be more than enough for me if the 80" turned out to be way too expensive. I remember my 50" being huge when I first got it, now it's just like another TV without any wow factor, 70" should give me that feeling for at least a few more years, those things are huge!

I don't like what I'm hearing about Sharp being in trouble financially, I'm really hoping for an improved Elite to arrive in 2013 and hoping to finally see a real break-through in OLED technology, but being a gamer I have a feeling burn in will be as bad with those as it did with first-gen plasmas!
post #10458 of 14509
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Thank you so much for the info Mr.SoftDome and specially k_lewis who pretty much convinced me to get an Elite lol
I don't mind viewing angles not being as good as the Kuro (I mean I know it wouldn't be me who'll sit in the corner of the room to watch some awesome blu-ray lol), as long as I don't see any contrast shifts while sitting on any of the normally placed 3 seat sofa that's right in-front of the TV, it's all good. Even though I'm not a freak when it comes to color accuracy (90%+ accurate is good enough for me), I do like to have dark deep blacks during low contrast scenes, grey-sh blacks drive me insane.
I'm not in a hurry to get the set since I tend to upgrade my HDTV with every new generation of video game consoles released to see what kind of technologies are released with it (plus I'm a huge video gaming fan), I expect those to arrive in mid or end of 2013 so I'll have to make a final decision by then.
As you can see I like to plan ahead lol, did the same thing with the Kuro, the 80" Elite sure sounds great but 70" will be more than enough for me if the 80" turned out to be way too expensive. I remember my 50" being huge when I first got it, now it's just like another TV without any wow factor, 70" should give me that feeling for at least a few more years, those things are huge!
I don't like what I'm hearing about Sharp being in trouble financially, I'm really hoping for an improved Elite to arrive in 2013 and hoping to finally see a real break-through in OLED technology, but being a gamer I have a feeling burn in will be as bad with those as it did with first-gen plasmas!

Glad I could provide some helpful comments. I think you'll especially be pleased with the very dark blacks. The Elite is very "Kuro like" in respect to black levels. I would still strongly suggest going to preview one at a store- check the viewing angle and other aspects that will be important to you. keep in mind that the store displays are often horribly done, and if it looks good in that setting you can figure on it being even better in your setup, properly adjusted. Come to think of it, I really have not fiddled with setting at all since I first got the set and went through initial tweaking. Nothing has bugged me about it to warrant messing with settings. Now on the other hand, my Theta CBIIIhd processor, and newly installed BG Radia LA800 main speakers( Ginormous!) and BG CC220 center channel... endless tweaking.... daily..... insanity. ;p

Here is a pic of my Elite 70" on top of temporary AV rack (It is a Bell'O stand from Magnolia that I customized to fit a very large center speaker and the huge CBIII processor / Intrepid amplifier). The back wall is getting a partition built in front of it, left / right BG LA800 speakers will go flush in the wall along with the center- and four inwall BGX subs. Elite will wall mount into a recess center of wall, one of the windows will be gone. I'm building the wall recess to house the upcoming 80". AV gear will go on right side of room in a custom integrated cabinet. Excuse the construction mess outside the door.. I took photo from my relative seating area so as you can see we sit rather far back from screen (about 17ft).


Edited by k_lewis - 8/6/12 at 7:12pm
post #10459 of 14509
Thread Starter 
Ok here is the next batch of images, I decided to give TRON a try again. All images were taken in ISF-Night mode.
PS: Stay tuned for final batch of images, meanwhile please enjoy these. wink.gif
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Most of the images had mutable exposure times, as my skill increases so will the accuracy of the images to what I'm actually seeing. It is my goal to be able to show you as accurate a picture as possible, note however that the Elite is still showing more detail in person and the color is not entirely accurate. In the next batch of images coming up the color accuracy will be much improved because they were taken in (RAW) format so stay tuned.
Edited by RadTech51 - 8/6/12 at 7:08pm
post #10460 of 14509
Thread Starter 
As promised here is the next batch of images all taken in (RAW) format, I decided to use the movie Watchmen because it's a move we should all be familiar with and will present a good choice for showing off color accuracy and picture quality for viewing. Again all images were taken in multiple exposure times to capture all of the detail, all images were taken in ISF-Night picture mode calibrated by Kevin Miller. From this point on all images will be taken in (RAW) format for color accuracy so please enjoy. wink.gif

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post #10461 of 14509
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Originally Posted by k_lewis View Post


The 80" Elite is upcoming- so you may want to wait until then as some pre-owned 70" Elites will certainly come available as folks upgrade. I can tell you that I personally will be upgrading, and to partially finance that will be selling my Elite 70" at a fair price. I had a look at the regular Sharp 80", and it is actually quite good. It's definitely a heck of a buy at it's retail price point. I can only imagine what the new Elite 80" will look like biggrin.gif.

Is there something you know that we don't? I have been searching forums daily for any info on a 80" Elite and all I can make out is that no one (outside Sharp) knows and those that do haven't made any official announcement. If it does become a reality in the next 6-12 months, that will most likely be my next set. I'm getting REAL tired of waiting... I'd love to hear them at least say if they will build one, just so I can evaluate my next move. Waiting 8 months to find out its a no-go is gonna really suck.
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Sorry for the crappy picture, I took it with my iPhone.
post #10463 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

Is there something you know that we don't? I have been searching forums daily for any info on a 80" Elite and all I can make out is that no one (outside Sharp) knows and those that do haven't made any official announcement. If it does become a reality in the next 6-12 months, that will most likely be my next set. I'm getting REAL tired of waiting... I'd love to hear them at least say if they will build one, just so I can evaluate my next move. Waiting 8 months to find out its a no-go is gonna really suck.
Its a gamble.........in the end no one knows for sure, even Sharp. It may be slated for production, this or that happens, it is cancelled. Seen it time, and time again over the years.
post #10464 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Its a gamble.........in the end no one knows for sure, even Sharp. It may be slated for production, this or that happens, it is cancelled. Seen it time, and time again over the years.

yep, exactly. last "inside" word I got was a month ago- supposedly it's a go and whispers of Fall / Winter. We'll see... If it's a bust, worst case is I have to "live with" my paltry 70".. boo hoo.
post #10465 of 14509
k_lewis:

My God, what speakers are you using for your left and right front channels? At first I thought you didn't have any then slowly noticed those monsters hiding in the walls.


Anyways, the only thing keeping me from buying the Elite is the Sharp 945. But it's not slated for release till November-January. If at all. With my luck, Sharp's financial troubles will cause them to have a major restructuring and drop production of all their high end TV's. Then the Elite price will shoot to $10,000 as the last few left become highly sought after relics. The only thing left to talk about on the LCD boards will be which new edge lit TV sucks less lol.
post #10466 of 14509
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Originally Posted by kdog750 View Post

k_lewis:
My God, what speakers are you using for your left and right front channels? At first I thought you didn't have any then slowly noticed those monsters hiding in the walls.
Anyways, the only thing keeping me from buying the Elite is the Sharp 945. But it's not slated for release till November-January. If at all. With my luck, Sharp's financial troubles will cause them to have a major restructuring and drop production of all their high end TV's. Then the Elite price will shoot to $10,000 as the last few left become highly sought after relics. The only thing left to talk about on the LCD boards will be which new edge lit TV sucks less lol.

KDog- They are BG Radia LA-800's - 24 individual drivers per speaker, they are "Line Arrays" and designed to mount inwall. I had the custom boxes sent with them from BG, the boxes will actually go inwall as they are only 5" deep. I've been wanting a set of these for some time, they are amazing for HT. The sound stage is huge. They are bi-amped, the midrange and tweeters are driven by my Theta Intrepid and the four 8" woofers are driven by a BG 2x500w bass amplifier.

Had them in for about a week now, along with a BG Radia CC220 center (you can see it hiding under the Elite display, top shelf of my AV rack. It is 43" long). It is also a line array type of speaker. The center is just amazingly clear and natural on dialogue / center effects. Overall I am completely stoked with the sound coming from them. It is just rediculously good.

Here is a linky on the big BG Radia's - http://www.hometheater.com/content/bg-radia-r-800-wall-speakers (more pics on that page if you scroll down).
post #10467 of 14509
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Originally Posted by hhtatum View Post

No change on mine. The DSE on my set was mitigated once I entered the CNET settings. I am guessing that the lower color temp hides it somewhat. Its also possible that I have gotten used to it. It very rarely enters my concsiousness any more (I have had the set probably 10 months or so)

Yeah you are right of course, and thinking about it, don't think it's possible (too late for the tv to do any processing).

Yeah, settings do help mitigating DSE/banding. Perhaps precision Color setting may help as well. I've been calibrating mine with a meter and yes, it also helps with banding/DSE esp once you adjust the gray levels. I wish I were able to just enjoy the PQ, but that center band creeps in during some specific content.
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Originally Posted by guima View Post

Yeah you are right of course, and thinking about it, don't think it's possible (too late for the tv to do any processing).
Yeah, settings do help mitigating DSE/banding. Perhaps precision Color setting may help as well. I've been calibrating mine with a meter and yes, it also helps with banding/DSE esp once you adjust the gray levels. I wish I were able to just enjoy the PQ, but that center band creeps in during some specific content.

Question- Are you not able to send your set back for repair / replacement? This is not normal.
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Originally Posted by k_lewis View Post

Question- Are you not able to send your set back for repair / replacement? This is not normal.

Yes, I'm working with Elite's customer support (and they've been forthcoming concerning options btw) to have this addressed. I agree it shouldn't be the case with this set (and price point).
post #10470 of 14509
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Originally Posted by guima View Post

Yes, I'm working with Elite's customer support (and they've been forthcoming concerning options btw) to have this addressed. I agree it shouldn't be the case with this set (and price point).

Indeed! Let us know how it turns out. My experience with Elite support has been pretty good, but then again my needs have been minimal. They should definitely either provide an immediate fix or replace it. Regardless of price point, any piece of equipment can have issues right out of the gate. For example, my $20k processor had a few glitches and went back to the mfr three times right after I bought it. Annoying, yes! Did they make it right? Of course. I've bought enough gear over the years to know that sometimes this just happens. I would expect Elite to step up since they are positioned as a high-end brand, and especially if these types of glitches are a known issue. Make some noise, you should not have to be 'dealing with' this problem for so long you actually have time to post on a forum about trying to adjust it out. Where is your dealer in all of this, are you getting assistance from the person / store that sold you this particular set?
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