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post #10801 of 13284
Hey Radtech, about your posted pictures. Just for fun, I used one of my picture modes on my TV and adjusted it to match how your screen shots look. I ended up with something really cool, it seems to reverse the current hollywood teal tint and makes the colors more natural! I really like it, especially the way it looks with the reportedly too teal Fellowship of the Ring. I can't wait to try it out with some other movies. I think I will try it with Aliens tonight.
Anyway, I just want to state I am in no way criticizing your pictures, I just find it fascinating how the colors look compared to how they look playing the same scenes on my display with my normal settings. Please keep the shots coming and maybe from a non teal tinted movie just to compare.

Thanks!smile.gif
post #10802 of 13284
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

People moving or wanting bigger screens.

Hmmmm- I didn't know. There have been a few. I don't think I'd be so quick to take a hit on such an expensive set so quickly if I loved it. I am probably just being paranoid but it still makes me wonder.
post #10803 of 13284
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Originally Posted by dunntfbrayd View Post

I just purchased the sharp 70 inch 735 model and I think it has some clouding (white patches on a dark or black screen). Do the 70" elite models have this same problem?link
The Elites almost eliminate 98% of this issue, along with many other high qualities.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It's not.

exactly........................Sharp has "bigger" fish to fry
post #10805 of 13284
I wonder if we will hear anything about either the Sharp 945 or Elite2 anytime soon.
post #10806 of 13284
Thread Starter 
Images of the day.
BorntobeWildMain.jpg
Forest.jpg
Water.jpg
Elephant1.jpg
All Images were taken in RAW format and in ISF-Night picture mode.
post #10807 of 13284
Info from Cedia on new Elite LED's? Improvements and a 80 or 90 inch?
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

Info from Cedia on new Elite LED's? Improvements and a 80 or 90 inch?
You'll read it here if it happens.
post #10809 of 13284
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

Info from Cedia on new Elite LED's? Improvements and a 80 or 90 inch?

No official word yet, but if you have the cash, this is the closest to an unofficial 90" Elite with full array and local dimming.


http://epgi.ca/index.php/products/digital-signage/item/sharp-pn-e902?category_id=14
post #10810 of 13284
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Images of the day.
Passage.jpg
Elephants.jpg
Elephants2.jpg
All Images were taken in RAW format and in ISF-Night picture mode.
post #10811 of 13284
WOW!!! Simply stunning images! I think I now know why your pics didn't look right to me. I am used to my crappy sony lcd that has the overblown inaccurate greens. Seeing the natural green foliage in your screen shots is completely mesmerizing! Now I can't stand watching my TV whenever there is green grass or trees. I really need a better display!smile.gif
post #10812 of 13284
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

I wonder if we will hear anything about either the Sharp 945 or Elite2 anytime soon.
Maybe at Cedia this week if not, CES in January.
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

No official word yet, but if you have the cash, this is the closest to an unofficial 90" Elite with full array and local dimming.
http://epgi.ca/index.php/products/digital-signage/item/sharp-pn-e902?category_id=14

Those are commercial panels, yes it looks like they are playing on words "full array LED backlight". They are missing some key words though, with local dimming. I can pretty much guarantee this is not a local dimming set, therefor nothing like the Elite.
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post #10813 of 13284
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Maybe at Cedia this week if not, CES in January.
Those are commercial panels, yes it looks like they are playing on words "full array LED backlight". They are missing some key words though, with local dimming. I can pretty much guarantee this is not a local dimming set, therefor nothing like the Elite.


Sorry, the Sharp Senior Project Manager confirmed it was local dimming at :54 into the video. I am sure if they make a 90" Elite there will be slight differences, but as I said this is about the closest confirmed model you can get to it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djfVHlUdXCk
post #10814 of 13284
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

I wonder if we will hear anything about either the Sharp 945 or Elite2 anytime soon.

They are completely silent on the 945. It's either been canceled or is in limbo indefinitely. My guess is probably even the top brass at Sharp doesn't know for sure whether it is going to be released or not.
post #10815 of 13284
Quick question:

Does anyone any recommended video settings for football games for the Elites. Any thoughts concening the motion enhancement settings? What have you found that works well with sports programming?

Ray
post #10816 of 13284
Thread Starter 
Images of the day.
BoatRide.jpg
ForestWalk.jpg
SittingonBridge.jpg
All Images were taken in RAW format and in ISF-Night picture mode.
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

WOW!!! Simply stunning images!

Indeed!!

As I said before Rad...keep them coming!cool.gif
post #10818 of 13284
Very nice pics- this is turning into the "Official Sharp Elite Picture Porn" thread biggrin.gif

So I heard from my dealer that street pricing on the Sharp 90" will be in the low $12k range. I would guess the eventual Elite 90" would be at least several grand more. Save your pennies wink.gif
post #10819 of 13284
Anybody notice, they redesigned the Elite web site, and 2.19 download is on the front page - must mean something eek.gifrolleyes.gif

Sharp Elite Site
post #10820 of 13284
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

Anybody notice, they redesigned the Elite web site, and 2.19 download is on the front page - must mean something eek.gifrolleyes.gif
Sharp Elite Site

Considering they just mortgaged 2 billion dollars in real estate today, I don't think we're going to see anything anytime soon. I have no idea how a company who makes displays for Apple which is a paying customer is in such financial distress. Troubling because I need to see what sharp has on the horizon before I jump on the newly announced Sony 950
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Originally Posted by dunntfbrayd View Post

I just purchased the sharp 70 inch 735 model and I think it has some clouding (white patches on a dark or black screen). Do the 70" elite models have this same problem?link

The problem can be present on the Elite, but the local dimming cleans it up, so it has virtually no impact on your image.
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I've spent a week with my new Elite 60" display, and I'm sorry to say that it has blooming. I've read that blooming is caused, to some extent, by the backlight bleeding through the space between the liquid crystals (rather than simply bleeding through the LCs themselves). This may also explain the brighter "blacks" on this set. When a bright area nears the "black bars" on a widescreen movie, blooming is very apparent in the bar. This was not the case with my former set. Apparently, the quality of screens varies in this regard. In all other respects, I'm pleased with this set, but everything I heard about the lack of blooming was a major reason that I bought the Elite.

Does anyone else see blooming on your Elite? How bright are the black bars? From reading this thread, it sounds as if the quality control is better on the 70" model, so let us know if you have a 60 or 70 inch.

I've played with adjusting the Brightness and the Backlight to bring the black level down, but it then loses shadow detail and headroom on whites. Any suggestions?
post #10823 of 13284
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

I've spent a week with my new Elite 60" display, and I'm sorry to say that it has blooming. I've read that blooming is caused, to some extent, by the backlight bleeding through the space between the liquid crystals (rather than simply bleeding through the LCs themselves). This may also explain the brighter "blacks" on this set. When a bright area nears the "black bars" on a widescreen movie, blooming is very apparent in the bar. This was not the case with my former set. Apparently, the quality of screens varies in this regard. In all other respects, I'm pleased with this set, but everything I heard about the lack of blooming was a major reason that I bought the Elite.
Does anyone else see blooming on your Elite? How bright are the black bars? From reading this thread, it sounds as if the quality control is better on the 70" model, so let us know if you have a 60 or 70 inch.
I've played with adjusting the Brightness and the Backlight to bring the black level down, but it then loses shadow detail and headroom on whites. Any suggestions?

No haloing on my 70X5. ESPECIALLY when compared to my cousins xbr55hx929. He had his set a couple months before I got my ELITE and when I got it we were both blown away by how the ELITE diminished 99% of the haloing his has.
post #10824 of 13284
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

I've spent a week with my new Elite 60" display, and I'm sorry to say that it has blooming. I've read that blooming is caused, to some extent, by the backlight bleeding through the space between the liquid crystals (rather than simply bleeding through the LCs themselves). This may also explain the brighter "blacks" on this set. When a bright area nears the "black bars" on a widescreen movie, blooming is very apparent in the bar. This was not the case with my former set. Apparently, the quality of screens varies in this regard. In all other respects, I'm pleased with this set, but everything I heard about the lack of blooming was a major reason that I bought the Elite.
Does anyone else see blooming on your Elite? How bright are the black bars? From reading this thread, it sounds as if the quality control is better on the 70" model, so let us know if you have a 60 or 70 inch.
I've played with adjusting the Brightness and the Backlight to bring the black level down, but it then loses shadow detail and headroom on whites. Any suggestions?

Do you have IVC on or off?
post #10825 of 13284
Thread Starter 
Images of the day.
MassiveElephant.jpg
Elephantsroaming.jpg
ElephantsDrinking.jpg
All Images were taken in RAW format and in ISF-Night picture mode.
post #10826 of 13284
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

I've spent a week with my new Elite 60" display, and I'm sorry to say that it has blooming. I've read that blooming is caused, to some extent, by the backlight bleeding through the space between the liquid crystals (rather than simply bleeding through the LCs themselves). This may also explain the brighter "blacks" on this set. When a bright area nears the "black bars" on a widescreen movie, blooming is very apparent in the bar. This was not the case with my former set. Apparently, the quality of screens varies in this regard. In all other respects, I'm pleased with this set, but everything I heard about the lack of blooming was a major reason that I bought the Elite.
Does anyone else see blooming on your Elite? How bright are the black bars? From reading this thread, it sounds as if the quality control is better on the 70" model, so let us know if you have a 60 or 70 inch.
I've played with adjusting the Brightness and the Backlight to bring the black level down, but it then loses shadow detail and headroom on whites. Any suggestions?
No blooming or haloing in my 70X5. My black bars are totally black except in a totally black or extremely dim scene with nothing of any brightness in a pitch black room, in which case it's almost black. I've been watching the Farscape Blu-ray which is 4:3 and the black bars are BLACK with no blooming.

As you probably experienced, the Backlight will determine the lowest black and brightest white achievable (they go together unfortunately - darker black = dimmer white, but fortunately there's plenty brightness to go around), the Brightness (it really should be called Darkness rolleyes.gif) will determine what content luminance level is black within those boundaries, and thus the main control for shadow detail.

Added: my current Backlight is 34 and Brightness is 1 in ISF mode.
post #10827 of 13284
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

Sorry, the Sharp Senior Project Manager confirmed it was local dimming at :54 into the video. I am sure if they make a 90" Elite there will be slight differences, but as I said this is about the closest confirmed model you can get to it now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djfVHlUdXCk
I like it in writing, on the link you posted >>>>>>>>> http://epgi.ca/index.php/products/digital-signage/item/sharp-pn-e902?category_id=14 if you click on manufacturers specs it will bring up this PDF >>>>>> Click Here Which states "full array LED backlight". No mention of local dimming. With that said, I will bet it is not local dimming.

--Either way there is a conflict of info for sure, and when all else fails do you take someones word, or something in writing ?
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post #10828 of 13284
How well does this TV (specifically the 70") deal with fast motion? My personal prejudice against LED/LCD has always been poor blacks and poor motion handling. Off angle viewing is not a concern for me. Obviously this set handles blacks phenomenally well, but I am very sensitive to the motion blur I observe on most LED/LCD sets. As I am about to pull the trigger on the 70" Elite (as soon as my dealer/installer gets back from CEDIA) but with the start of football season, I am wondering if I will be happy with how fast motion looks. I have seen this set 100 times at Best Buy, but with one exception they always have the same demo video on. I have not been able to see this set with anything approaching "real" content. I have read about 25% of the 10K posts in this thread, and have not seen much on this topic.

Darren
post #10829 of 13284
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Images of the day.
MassiveElephant.jpg
Elephantsroaming.jpg
ElephantsDrinking.jpg
All Images were taken in RAW format and in ISF-Night picture mode.

Are you enhancing these pictures at all or is this really what you see while watching your TV??? They look so amazing it's hard to believe
post #10830 of 13284
Ok guys, new to th forum. Just installed (in process) new system and have a question regarding the voice cynch as well as display picture of the elite 70" pro. For some reason, the pic quality seems to lag and and blur. It is not consistent on all channels. Anyway here is system details, hope someone has a solution:

1. Athem DV2 processor. New version just out with 3D
2. Anthem A-5 Amp ( running 2x225 to each of front speakers ( B & W 700 series speakers), and 1 x 225 to center speaker also B & W
3.Anthem A-2 Amp running the rear speakers (mounted in ceiling at back of room.
4.Powered B & W sub, I think it is A-25
5. Sony Blu Raybdps5000es
6. Direct TV sal box hddvr

Notes:
Blu Ray movies are great, sound great look great, etc.
Watching Sat TV is the issue, not sure why. Am going hdmi into DV2, have turned off native setting on sat box and dropped to 1080i, with limited success.
I also have a comcast cable box as a back up and the issue does not appear when using Comcast as server, but prefer Direct TV programming so really want to resolve this.
I also talked with Eltie customer servcie and their response was to connect direct from sat box to display which seems very wrong to me.
The Display when on direct tv says 1080p or 1080i/24hz.

Sure would appreciate any help/input anyone might have.
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