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post #11251 of 13287
10/21/12 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by shingdaz View Post

Ok... So THX calibration can be changed anytime, if I chose so> ISF day/night modes are locked> where do they appear in the Menu's? Do they replace the USER profile menu? Or can that profile be calibrated as well?> I would assume User Profile is calibratable as well.
* How many color points of reference or gray scale points are there?> I assume there are 100 points to calibrate instead of the basic 10 point currently available in the Menu's.

The ISFccc memories (isf Night and isf Day when activated) will appear in your AV Selection list with the others. It's 10pt RGB Controls..

You can see all the controls available Here (one if hte pics dropped out, I am fixing now EDIT: fixed, you may have to do CTRL-F5 for the Refresh).

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Edited by turbe - 10/21/12 at 11:47am
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post #11252 of 13287
10/21/12 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

The ISFccc memories (isf Night and isf Day when activated) will appear in your AV Selection list with the others. It's 10pt RGB Controls..
You can see all the controls available Here (one if hte pics dropped out, I am fixing now EDIT: fixed, you may have to do CTRL-F5 for the Refresh).
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Ok Thanks, Seems like Night/Day modes will appear on the Picture Mode menu's etc.

What is the difference between the 10pt RGB controls, in relation to the -Current menu color settings?> Why not use the exhisting calibration controls in the menus's?>>>is what I'm trying to find out. Is there more accuarte calibration using control Cal software etc?
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post #11253 of 13287
10/21/12 at 1:41pm
the control ranges for the Multipoint and CMS on many display's ISFccc Interface can be expanded (finer increments).
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post #11254 of 13287
10/21/12 at 3:55pm
As Turbe mentioned, the settings in ISF generally have finer granularity:

Backlight: 0 -> 100 instead of -16 -> 16
Contrast 0 -> 85 instead of 0 -> 40
Brightness -50 -> 50 instead of -30 -> 30
Gamma -20 -> 20 instead of -2 -> 2
CMS is same for both -30 -> 30
10 Point WB -50 -> 50 instead of -30 -> 30

Also you cannot see the ISF settings on the Elite Menu, only select ISF Day or ISF Night, and set the IVC level.
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post #11255 of 13287
10/21/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by shingdaz View Post

Ok... So THX calibration can be changed anytime, if I chose so> ISF day/night modes are locked> where do they appear in the Menu's? Do they replace the USER profile menu? Or can that profile be calibrated as well?> I would assume User Profile is calibratable as well.
* How many color points of reference or gray scale points are there?> I assume there are 100 points to calibrate instead of the basic 10 point currently available in the Menu's.
Once they are set the ISF Day and ISF Night will appear in the Elite View selection menu at the end. You can Up Arrow from Elite Pure and you'll land on ISF Night and see ISF Day above it. The only thing you'll be able to see and change when an ISF mode is selected in the IVC setting.
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post #11256 of 13287
10/21/12 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by hhtatum View Post

Hunger Games? Where did a young school girl get the money to buy an Elite? JK (kinda)

Ouch. I liked the movie and the world. No apologize !!!!!
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post #11257 of 13287
10/22/12 at 10:13am
Anyone gotten their Elite to connect to Windows Media Player(DLNA).
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post #11258 of 13287
10/22/12 at 11:17am
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Anyone gotten their Elite to connect to Windows Media Player(DLNA).

I will try yhis. I hope so as my Nokia Windwos 8 920 Phone is shipping Nov 9th...... dumping apple.
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post #11259 of 13287
10/22/12 at 11:53am
Well, I tried calibrating IVC Adv. Low again yesterday and got more peaks and valleys gamma readings at the high end. Ignoring gamma, the greyscale and color gamut settings were almost identical. You can use the same greyscale and gamut settings from before just set backlight to "-1" and brightness to "+1". With those settings, it was the blackest at 16 (0%) and still bright enough to show shadow detail from 17-25. My meter could not get a reading at -1; at Backlight = 0, it read 0.0012fL)

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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

I think trying to get a straight gamma is not going to work out with Advanced Low, since one of it's goals is probably to break the straight gamma in order to get the added pop. Otherwise how would it differ from straight Local Dimming? My .003 cents smile.gif.

I agree. smile.gif
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post #11260 of 13287
10/22/12 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

Well, I tried calibrating IVC Adv. Low again yesterday and got more peaks and valleys gamma readings at the high end. Ignoring gamma, the greyscale and color gamut settings were almost identical. You can use the same greyscale and gamut settings from before just set backlight to "-1" and brightness to "+1". With those settings, it was the blackest at 16 (0%) and still bright enough to show shadow detail from 17-25. My meter could not get a reading at -1; at Backlight = 0, it read 0.0012fL)
I agree. smile.gif

Alllright, nice to know there are at least finer gradient calibration settings and the gamma settings look like there will be huge improvement as well.

* Why calibrate with IVC turned on> it's not a static profile but constantly changing according to how the Elite responds, I assume that would give you inconsistent results when trying to pick how to adjust settings etc.,
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post #11261 of 13287
10/22/12 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

Well, I tried calibrating IVC Adv. Low again yesterday and got more peaks and valleys gamma readings at the high end. Ignoring gamma, the greyscale and color gamut settings were almost identical. You can use the same greyscale and gamut settings from before just set backlight to "-1" and brightness to "+1". With those settings, it was the blackest at 16 (0%) and still bright enough to show shadow detail from 17-25. My meter could not get a reading at -1; at Backlight = 0, it read 0.0012fL)
I agree. smile.gif


So Backlight at -1, Brightness +1 but I didn't get the Contrast setting. You are saying that one could use anything from 17-25?
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post #11262 of 13287
10/22/12 at 3:31pm
Just returned from my local BB. When I inquired about the 70" Elite, he said that they are back ordered and it would be weeks before I could get one. He said that there is a new model coming out, but he didn't know any details about it. Does anyone know anything about a new Elite? Is there really going to be one? When is it coming out? If it is going to be a "dumbed down" model, then I should try to get one now. But if the new model is going to be an upgrade then I would rather wait for it.
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post #11263 of 13287
10/22/12 at 5:26pm
they have been saying that for months at bb. they have no more of an idea than you and I
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post #11264 of 13287
10/22/12 at 6:25pm
We will find out at CES wink.gif
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post #11265 of 13287
10/22/12 at 6:33pm
only bummer is the lag. sets announced at ces usually dont see the light of day for another 3 or 4 months
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post #11266 of 13287
10/22/12 at 6:35pm
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only bummer is the lag. sets announced at ces usually dont see the light of day for another 3 or 4 months
Could be longer too.
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post #11267 of 13287
10/23/12 at 8:30am
Has anyone tried any non-Sharp 3d compatible glasses? I see a few around, but have no idea if they will work, or how well. These would be for guests, and subject most likely to more abuse than I give my glasses, so something cheaper is in order wink.gif
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post #11268 of 13287
10/23/12 at 11:16am
did sharp release a new firmware today? had a popup message this morning but haven't had time to update yet.
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post #11269 of 13287
10/23/12 at 11:40am
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So Backlight at -1, Brightness +1 but I didn't get the Contrast setting. You are saying that one could use anything from 17-25?

For Contrast, I would stick with 23 or lower. When I said 17-25, those were RGB values. smile.gif
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post #11270 of 13287
10/23/12 at 1:41pm
Is there any way to disable that annoying 3D message box. It comes off and on every time my Oppo switches between video at the start of a blu ray. Like a million times.
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post #11271 of 13287
10/23/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany View Post

did sharp release a new firmware today? had a popup message this morning but haven't had time to update yet.
Stop teasing - nothing new after 2.19 yet.
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post #11272 of 13287
10/23/12 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

For Contrast, I would stick with 23 or lower. When I said 17-25, those were RGB values. smile.gif
I hope that's in IVC Advanced ...
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post #11273 of 13287
10/23/12 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany View Post

did sharp release a new firmware today? had a popup message this morning but haven't had time to update yet.

I noticed the update as well, does anyone know what changes were made with the new firmware? Or is there some way to view some update notes regarding this information?
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post #11274 of 13287
10/23/12 at 5:14pm
Hmmmm - I didn't get any messages for updates...
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post #11275 of 13287
10/23/12 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by euphoria619 View Post

I noticed the update as well, does anyone know what changes were made with the new firmware? Or is there some way to view some update notes regarding this information?

Besides the quick summary the update gave which stated only about the elimination of a few
apps such as the blockbuster app.

Any technical details on the update......?
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post #11276 of 13287
10/23/12 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

Hmmmm - I didn't get any messages for updates...

Neither did I.
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post #11277 of 13287
10/23/12 at 8:13pm
It looks like some recent owners did not have the latest firmware - 2.19. It's not new, just new to them.
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post #11278 of 13287
10/24/12 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

It looks like some recent owners did not have the latest firmware - 2.19. It's not new, just new to them.

this is correct. i downloaded 2.19 last night. strangely, it took a couple of months for the update to appear...in spite of the fact that i'd tried to manually update several times.
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post #11279 of 13287
10/24/12 at 9:42am
Just bought a 60" and would like to get a recommendation on calibrator in Houston. Out of the box is a wow factor already....looking forward to the added detail calibaration will bring. Thanks.
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post #11280 of 13287
10/24/12 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

For Contrast, I would stick with 23 or lower. When I said 17-25, those were RGB values. smile.gif

Thank you. Did you get an fL reading at +1 Brightness. -1 Backlight and 23 Contrast (Adv Low) ? I am curious to see if this is as close as I think to some of the calibrated settings (LD on) or if I am slowly burning my eyeballs out.
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