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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Almost certainly what will happen.
Silly, Ken, calling himself a discerning videophile. smile.gif

Yeah, aint that the truth. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

In other words, I agree with Ken for the smiley challenged.

Oh wait, you agree...and here I thought you were a bright guy. biggrin.gif
post #11522 of 13287
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Originally Posted by DYAUSWINTERS View Post

In my opinion with the blacks the ELITE can achieve, in a completely dark room, make it just slightly better than VT50. I know when it comes to the "CYAN" fiasco some feel like color is more important along with the great blacks of the VT50. Whereas I prefer the slightly better blacks and brightness for daytime viewing you get with the ELITE. Not to mention the only time I can notice the CYAN error is when I compare it with my 17" macbook pro (which is not professionally calibrated) and it's not as far off as some have made it out to be. Other than that I doubt you'll ever notice it.

Guess my last sentence wasn't clear. I meant the VT50 would have looked better in a darker room than it did at BB, not that it would have looked better than the Elite(I really don't know that).
post #11523 of 13287
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Originally Posted by KRGM1 View Post

Guess my last sentence wasn't clear. I meant the VT50 would have looked better in a darker room than it did at BB, not that it would have looked better than the Elite(I really don't know that).

Ohh okay biggrin.gif. I agree.
post #11524 of 13287
Seems most have left this thread by now so I'm a little late to the party but nonetheless have officially joined the Elite owners club. Pulled the trigger on a 60 inch after researching the VT50/929/950 and am very pleased with the television.

Does anyone use the TV speakers and if so, are there particular settings that are optimal? (mine seem a bit off) I do have a sound setup but still prefer just TV sound for regular viewing (i.e. news). Sound is coming from a Motorola DCX-3400 via HDMI straight to the TV.

Thanks everyone for the valuable information in this thread to make an informed decision!
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What are you using to clean your Elite screen? I have finger prints everywhere and looking for a non harmful way to clean them off.
post #11526 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mgp View Post

I'm using a Cyberpower UPS model CP1350PFCLCD. It outputs a sinewave on battery power. Works great.

Hey Everybody - this is a worthwhile topic for discussion. A power conditioner can change the look of your display and the sound of your audio system. Who has a conditioner that improved the performance of their system?

My Panamax M5400-EX recently started having problems (it's been on steadily for 4 years), so I replaced it with a Furman Elite 15 PFI. The Furman can store extra power for peaks. This has had a noticeable improvement on sound quality - attacks are faster and more focused, and peak volumes are cleaner. I have a quality speaker system, but it's power hungry, and the extra oomph has made a difference. In the display department, though, there was a trade-off. A friend of mine reports that his LED TV had better contrast with the Furman. My Elite is brighter now, but - here's the downside - so are the black levels. I've tweaked some settings since, but can't get it quite as dark as it was before I put the Furman in the system.

I've heard that some power conditioners actually improve black level. Has anyone had that experience with their Elite? The Furman has improved the sound of my system so much that I think I'm going to keep it. (It's as if I upgraded my amp!) But I am a bit bummed about the black levels.

As for the Panamax 5400 - you actually can turn the front panel off on that unit, or dim it way down. A button on the front panel allows you to adjust the brightness of the display to your preference.
post #11527 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

Hey Everybody - this is a worthwhile topic for discussion. A power conditioner can change the look of your display and the sound of your audio system. Who has a conditioner that improved the performance of their system?.

People who take placebos, even when told they are taking a placebo, often report improvement in their symptoms too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/dec/22/placebo-effect-patients-sham-drug
post #11528 of 13287
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Originally Posted by talems View Post

What are you using to clean your Elite screen? I have finger prints everywhere and looking for a non harmful way to clean them off.

I use a micro-fiber cloth that is lightly dampened with plain water to clean, and a dry micro-fiber to dry.
post #11529 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mgp View Post

I use a micro-fiber cloth that is lightly dampened with plain water to clean, and a dry micro-fiber to dry.

Ditto here
post #11530 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mgp View Post

I'm using a Cyberpower UPS model CP1350PFCLCD. It outputs a sinewave on battery power. Works great.

I have the M5400, it works just fine.
post #11531 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

Hey Everybody - this is a worthwhile topic for discussion. A power conditioner can change the look of your display and the sound of your audio system. Who has a conditioner that improved the performance of their system?
My Panamax M5400-EX recently started having problems (it's been on steadily for 4 years), so I replaced it with a Furman Elite 15 PFI. The Furman can store extra power for peaks. This has had a noticeable improvement on sound quality - attacks are faster and more focused, and peak volumes are cleaner. I have a quality speaker system, but it's power hungry, and the extra oomph has made a difference. In the display department, though, there was a trade-off. A friend of mine reports that his LED TV had better contrast with the Furman. My Elite is brighter now, but - here's the downside - so are the black levels. I've tweaked some settings since, but can't get it quite as dark as it was before I put the Furman in the system.
I've heard that some power conditioners actually improve black level. Has anyone had that experience with their Elite? The Furman has improved the sound of my system so much that I think I'm going to keep it. (It's as if I upgraded my amp!) But I am a bit bummed about the black levels.
As for the Panamax 5400 - you actually can turn the front panel off on that unit, or dim it way down. A button on the front panel allows you to adjust the brightness of the display to your preference.

I've tested various brands, and in my system (McIntosh, Anthem, JL Audio, B&W) and found the Richard Gray Power Company worked best. I'm using the 400s
Here's a photo and link to a review of the RGPC 400s
http://www.stereotimes.com/acc033100.shtml
Edited by rfc_2002 - 12/6/12 at 9:59am
post #11532 of 13287
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Originally Posted by talems View Post

What are you using to clean your Elite screen? I have finger prints everywhere and looking for a non harmful way to clean them off.

I use a reading glass cleaner (AR KLEEN) and a microfiber cloth. I have the 8 fluid oz bottle that has a push sprayer.
Reading glass cleaners don't have any harmful agents that would harm the coatings used on reading glasses, so it should be safe for the tv screen.
Important... no matter what liquid you use, spray it on the cloth then wipe the screen. Spraying it directly on the screen, you run the risk of having it drip down behind the bezel and the possibility of getting into the electronics.


Edited by rfc_2002 - 12/6/12 at 8:52am
post #11533 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

People who take placebos, even when told they are taking a placebo, often report improvement in their symptoms too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/dec/22/placebo-effect-patients-sham-drug
I beg to differ. I have found that coating the bezel of my Elite with a green marker not only increases sharpness and color fidelity but also improves grayscale linearity. Plus I don't need to use my glasses.
post #11534 of 13287
OK, OK. I don't actually use glasses to watch TV. And I didn't use a green marker on my bezel. So it must have been the calibration ...

But I'm still trying to figure out why I didn't notice any improvement from my CyberPower 1000PFCLCD.
post #11535 of 13287
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

OK, OK. I don't actually use glasses to watch TV. And I didn't use a green marker on my bezel. So it must have been the calibration ...
But I'm still trying to figure out why I didn't notice any improvement from my CyberPower 1000PFCLCD.

Power conditioners I think are negligible at best. I just want something that is stable on current delivery and God forbid I have a power spike or another lightning hit. It may not be bullet proof, but if it lessens the likelihood of another insurance claim like I had a couple years back, I'll happily avoid it.
post #11536 of 13287
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

OK, OK. I don't actually use glasses to watch TV. And I didn't use a green marker on my bezel. So it must have been the calibration ...
But I'm still trying to figure out why I didn't notice any improvement from my CyberPower 1000PFCLCD.

Power conditioners I think are negligible at best. I just want something that is stable on current delivery and God forbid I have a power spike or another lightning hit. It may not be bullet proof, but if it lessens the likelihood of another insurance claim like I had a couple years back, I'll happily avoid it.
post #11537 of 13287
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

customer from hell, that one. yikes. eek.gif
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

I was thinking the same thing as I read the post.

this might be off-topic - so sorry for that
Why customer has to kept defective TV set?
Defective in this case means - dead pixels, bandings.
Why Customer has to pay for manufacture defects?
I'm not about to shift this to re seller, but what to do it this case?
Why reseller has to pay for manufacture defects? Or waste time without income from a sale in this case?

10+ years ago you go to B/M store and pay for TV and sale person check and show it to you, so you go home with "tested" TV set - sure that were 21"-32" sets tongue.gif , but heavy anyway

Now, no one will let you open TV box to test "your" TV before you take it home.
How online shop will do it? I don't know.
How B/M shop will do it as they don't even have those large TV sets in store, but order for home delivery from distribution center (own or provider)? I don't know ether.
Who sales TV doesn't know if it's defective or not and sure no one wants to sale defective set to loose credibility, don't they?
That lead to only Customer, who will open the box and discover the defect or etc, isn't it?
This should not be gamble for a customer to get good set and for a business to not get return to pick tap for S/H and etc.

Looks like this business model got transformed that works great for less complex products. While we are here for top of the line TV sets.
Maybe QC has to grade TV sets and price it based on it?
I think one customer will pay premium for 0 dead pixels and 0 defects, while another would be happy to take 1-4 dead pixels as 2nd grade for less pay.

What do you think?
post #11538 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

People who take placebos, even when told they are taking a placebo, often report improvement in their symptoms too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/dec/22/placebo-effect-patients-sham-drug

In addition to protection from power spikes (or lightning strikes), power conditioners can provide other benefits. There's no voodoo about reserve power. The Furman unit has a coil that holds power in reserve and provides immediate relief during peaks. This has a noticeable impact on loudspeaker performance, (particularly for my power-hungry 4 ohm Vienna Acoustics package).

As for the change in black level performance, it's subtle, but measureable. It's a bummer. I'm not sure why, but the black levels go a bit deeper when I'm not using the Furman.
post #11539 of 13287
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Originally Posted by BarrettF77 View Post

Power conditioners I think are negligible at best. I just want something that is stable on current delivery and God forbid I have a power spike or another lightning hit. It may not be bullet proof, but if it lessens the likelihood of another insurance claim like I had a couple years back, I'll happily avoid it.

Ditto, The only reason i use the UPS is for line fluctuations.
post #11540 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

In addition to protection from power spikes (or lightning strikes), power conditioners can provide other benefits. There's no voodoo about reserve power.

OK, I'm sure you believe that.
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The Furman unit has a coil that holds power in reserve and provides immediate relief during peaks. This has a noticeable impact on loudspeaker performance, (particularly for my power-hungry 4 ohm Vienna Acoustics package).

I'm sure you hear that too.
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As for the change in black level performance, it's subtle, but measureable. It's a bummer. I'm not sure why, but the black levels go a bit deeper when I'm not using the Furman.

And I'm quite sure you see the black-level difference.

Somehow, 99.999% of people have sound and video with power straight from the wall.
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Originally Posted by BarrettF77 View Post

Power conditioners I think are negligible at best. I just want something that is stable on current delivery and God forbid I have a power spike or another lightning hit. It may not be bullet proof, but if it lessens the likelihood of another insurance claim like I had a couple years back, I'll happily avoid it.

Hey, I totally agree with that. If you are in a lightning-susceptible area, you buy insurance against it. If I lived in tornado country, I'd have a storm cellar, too.
post #11541 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mgp View Post

Ditto, The only reason i use the UPS is for line fluctuations.
Spikes, fluctuations and line noise - my three reasons.
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

Spikes, fluctuations and line noise - my three reasons.

I have mine because I think its looks cool.
post #11543 of 13287
Has anyone here used the monoprice redmere hdmi cables with their elite LEDs without issues?
post #11544 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

Has anyone here used the monoprice redmere hdmi cables with their elite LEDs without issues?

I'm sure they are every bit as good as the cheaper, non-Redmere Monoprice cables.
post #11545 of 13287
I bought a couple of the Redmere cables and they wouldn't work at all with my projector. I haven't tried them on a tv yet but I will try one on the Elite when it arrives.
post #11546 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

Has anyone here used the monoprice redmere hdmi cables with their elite LEDs without issues?

Yes, I have the Ulta Slim and experience no issues with the Elite.
post #11547 of 13287
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Originally Posted by KRGM1 View Post

I bought a couple of the Redmere cables and they wouldn't work at all with my projector. I haven't tried them on a tv yet but I will try one on the Elite when it arrives.
Did you have the cable hooked up properly. Source/TV end?
post #11548 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Video Auteur View Post

Hey Everybody - this is a worthwhile topic for discussion. A power conditioner can change the look of your display and the sound of your audio system. Who has a conditioner that improved the performance of their system?
My Panamax M5400-EX recently started having problems (it's been on steadily for 4 years), so I replaced it with a Furman Elite 15 PFI. The Furman can store extra power for peaks. This has had a noticeable improvement on sound quality - attacks are faster and more focused, and peak volumes are cleaner. I have a quality speaker system, but it's power hungry, and the extra oomph has made a difference. In the display department, though, there was a trade-off. A friend of mine reports that his LED TV had better contrast with the Furman. My Elite is brighter now, but - here's the downside - so are the black levels. I've tweaked some settings since, but can't get it quite as dark as it was before I put the Furman in the system.
I've heard that some power conditioners actually improve black level. Has anyone had that experience with their Elite? The Furman has improved the sound of my system so much that I think I'm going to keep it. (It's as if I upgraded my amp!) But I am a bit bummed about the black levels.
As for the Panamax 5400 - you actually can turn the front panel off on that unit, or dim it way down. A button on the front panel allows you to adjust the brightness of the display to your preference.

I have the Furman Elite 15 PFI as well with power factor correction. Noticed the same improved in sound with my home theater when I first installed it a while back. It was a nice improvement and recommend the Furman to anyone looking for a nice surge protector/line conditioner.
post #11549 of 13287
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Originally Posted by PalJoey View Post

Yes, I have the Ulta Slim and experience no issues with the Elite.

Awesome. Can I use redmere cables to a keystone connector and then a short ultra slim redmere to the tv?
I just ordered my elite 70" today and I'm rebuilding my room after sandy and need to run hdmi cables in the wall. I will try and test all runs on a cheap Samsung LCD I have to see if all connections are working before I do drywall.
Edited by Evangelo2 - 12/8/12 at 5:20pm
post #11550 of 13287
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Originally Posted by hhtatum View Post

I have mine because I think its looks cool.
Mine hasn't come out of the closet ...
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