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Originally Posted by KRGM1 View Post

Just got mine, but it definitely gives the wow factor. Watched a couple of episodes of Lost on Blu-ray last night and the picture is just incredible. Wish I had room for the 70" version but it just won't work in my Den. It blows away the Sony 909 that I replaced. I also get lots of sun in the morning and the picture is fine for news or sports or my wife may have on HGTV.

I love, love, love the design of this room!
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

I read as much of the thread as I could stand. I have some Qs I hope some owners will be kind enough to answer
1/ does the 70" version have specific problems that the 60" does not? It shouldn't, being backlit, but I don't know.
2/ I like the better Samsung LCDs for that crystal clear, like seeing through the window look, esp in bright scenes. Does the elite have the same? (the one I see at BB doesn't have the right demo material to see this)
3/ I had a non elite sharp 70". It had terrible motion handling. Any motion blur in the source showed up horribly. I could not find a comfortable combination of motion smoothing. I had to put up with either motion blur all the time on any small movements, or eerily smooth motion interrupted by frame drops and judder on pans and camera whips that many shows are fond of now.
4/ how is the video processing. Does it do a good job cleaning up subpar content. By subpar, I don't mean SD. I mean HD cable stations like AMC, IFC, TNT, etc and ota channels and good quality Netflix streaming (I have fios). I had a vt50 (Panny plasma) and blu ray looked great but it was pretty brutal to lesser source. A kind way to put it is it's accurate; the unkind way is it has no noise reduction worth a damn.
Thanks

I am getting ready for the 70" myself.

I can answer no. 2

I have a Samsung 55" 8000 series and I LOVE the "seeing through the window look, esp in bright scenes" also. Yesterday, I went to BB and had them load up my Barak blu-ray to see if the PQ was as good as my Samsung which I love. i watched for 2 solid hours.

The set was not calibrated but the manager of the Magnolia department knew how to eye-ball the PQ. Bottom line for me was: The PQ was better, sharper and clearer than my 8000.

I am a believer and going to purchase the 70" Elite

I will be looking forward to other answers to you questions.


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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

I read as much of the thread as I could stand. I have some Qs I hope some owners will be kind enough to answer
1/ does the 70" version have specific problems that the 60" does not? It shouldn't, being backlit, but I don't know.
2/ I like the better Samsung LCDs for that crystal clear, like seeing through the window look, esp in bright scenes. Does the elite have the same? (the one I see at BB doesn't have the right demo material to see this)
3/ I had a non elite sharp 70". It had terrible motion handling. Any motion blur in the source showed up horribly. I could not find a comfortable combination of motion smoothing. I had to put up with either motion blur all the time on any small movements, or eerily smooth motion interrupted by frame drops and judder on pans and camera whips that many shows are fond of now.
4/ how is the video processing. Does it do a good job cleaning up subpar content. By subpar, I don't mean SD. I mean HD cable stations like AMC, IFC, TNT, etc and ota channels and good quality Netflix streaming (I have fios). I had a vt50 (Panny plasma) and blu ray looked great but it was pretty brutal to lesser source. A kind way to put it is it's accurate; the unkind way is it has no noise reduction worth a damn.
Thanks

"1/ does the 70" version have specific problems that the 60" does not? It shouldn't, being backlit, but I don't know."

A: Not to my knowledge, the 60'' has less local dimming zones then the 70'' but that's about it. Some say the 70'' has (marginally) better black level's as a result, but no definitive proof ether way and I'm very skeptical on the theory. Additionally their has been more reported issues with the 60'' versus 70'' but both sets should be the exact same picture wise.

2/ I like the better Samsung LCDs for that crystal clear, like seeing through the window look, esp in bright scenes. Does the elite have the same? (the one I see at BB doesn't have the right demo material to see this)

A: Samsung displays are well known for their over-saturation in color especially in torch picture modes. This is a marketing ploy only in hopes to grab the customers attention under less then perfect viewing conditions, usually under a flood of ambient lighting. Next time you go and look at the Elite put the picture mode on ELITE PURE and then compare again. biggrin.gif

3/ I had a non elite sharp 70". It had terrible motion handling. Any motion blur in the source showed up horribly. I could not find a comfortable combination of motion smoothing. I had to put up with either motion blur all the time on any small movements, or eerily smooth motion interrupted by frame drops and judder on pans and camera whips that many shows are fond of now.

A: Very few have complained about the motion handling on the Elite you're welcome to try my 10 point calibration settings or CNET's, but you shouldn't be disappointed ether way.

4/ how is the video processing. Does it do a good job cleaning up subpar content. By subpar, I don't mean SD. I mean HD cable stations like AMC, IFC, TNT, etc and ota channels and good quality Netflix streaming (I have fios). I had a vt50 (Panny plasma) and blu ray looked great but it was pretty brutal to lesser source. A kind way to put it is it's accurate; the unkind way is it has no noise reduction worth a damn.

A: Most internal futures related to artificial enhancement to the picture or it's source content in any way are usually turned off by the calibrator. In regard to your question, with everything turned off I find that the Elite does a great job with cable source content and I have not noticed any de-interlacing issues in 1080i content. Note: If you're concerned about this get yourself a nice A/V receiver and run everything through it like I do. Additionally I will upon occasion see some pulsing issues with my cable source, however it's really a non issue as it rarely pop's up and I almost never see it on any BD sources unless it's a poor conversion or remaster. cool.gif
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how is the viewing angle on the 60inch elites? I have a Sony 950 and noticed the screen being washed out when I view at certain angles.
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Originally Posted by cosmos5861 View Post

how is the viewing angle on the 60inch elites? I have a Sony 950 and noticed the screen being washed out when I view at certain angles.

(Best in class.) wink.gif Advancements in this area are apparent on the Elite, however I'd still recommend the front and center (the sweet spot.) In fact why anyone would buy this display and watch a nice blu-ray movie off-axis is beyond me. eek.gif

PS: The Elite really is in a class all on it's own, past comparison tests show Plasma displays to win out every time over LED in picture quality up until now. To my knowledge it's the first LED to win out over a Plasma in an HD-Shootout and for good reason. It's picture quality is very Plasma like in most regards but with better black levels, full screen whites and superior contrast ratio to name a few. See Kevin Miller's review of the Elite for more info.
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Originally Posted by RadTech51 View Post

(Best in class.) wink.gif Advancements in this area are apparent on the Elite, however I'd still recommend the front and center (the sweet spot.) In fact why anyone would buy this display and watch a nice blu-ray movie off-axis is beyond me. eek.gif
PS: The Elite really is in a class all on it's own, past comparison tests show Plasma displays to win out every time over LED in picture quality up until now. To my knowledge it's the first LED to win out over a Plasma in an HD-Shootout and for good reason. It's picture quality is very Plasma like in most regards but with better black levels, full screen whites and superior contrast ratio to name a few. See Kevin Miller's review of the Elite for more info.

Do you know if has better viewing angle than the Sony 950? I just got this panel and the angle is poor and I have banding issues.
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I just purchased the Elite 70 two weeks ago. I have everything hooked up with 1 HDMI from my TV to my receiver, Denon 1912, and my Cable box (Cox DCT-6416 iii) and my Samsung Blu Ray Player (6700 I believe).

So I am having a handshake issue with my cable box and the TV. It will work perfect for a while and then red lines go across the screen and then the picture will go out, then come back on for a second then go out for 30 seconds and does this till I turn the TV off. I have had all 5 cable boxes Cox offers hooked up and they all do the same thing. So I unplugged the TV and HDMI from receiver to the cable box, then unplugged the cable box and waited 5 minutes and plugged everything back in to re-establish the hand off. Then the TV will work fine for a few hours and then go back to the exact same scenario of picture blinking in and out.

I know it is not HDMI issues because the Blu Ray player works perfect all the time. Just the cable box.

I have done numerous searches and have heard of what others have tried on their Direct TV boxes but I have COX Communications and don't want to change everything just for this TV. I have brought the TV down from 1080i, to 720p, 480 and so on. It does it on all of the different settings on the cable box.

Any suggestions from you guys?

I have been working with Sharp's Elite hotline and they have a tech dispatched to come to my house tomorrow to replace the main board of the TV. Do you believe that is necessary on a TV I have only had for 2 weeks?

Thanks for any help. Its hard to keep my wife happy with a $5K TV that I can't watch cable on. LOL.
Edited by Strobie - 12/15/12 at 7:50am
post #11588 of 13287
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Originally Posted by cosmos5861 View Post

how is the viewing angle on the 60inch elites? I have a Sony 950 and noticed the screen being washed out when I view at certain angles.

I have a 60 inch and see no problems until I go 4-5 feet away from center (my position is about 10-11 feet from the TV). When in that "off angle" range I usually only see the washed out look on flesh tones and maybe a wee bit with blacks (testing as I write). All other colors appear fine to me at most normal angles.
post #11589 of 13287
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Originally Posted by cosmos5861 View Post

Do you know if has better viewing angle than the Sony 950? I just got this panel and the angle is poor and I have banding issues.

I have a 60" calibrated and I would say anything outside about a 45 degree cone to either side you start to see a noticeably washed out picture. I am am fan of this set, but if you have critical viewers that will regularly be outside this "cone", I would not recommend the set. JMO
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Originally Posted by Strobie View Post

I just purchased the Elite 70 two weeks ago. I have everything hooked up with 1 HDMI from my TV to my receiver, Denon 1921, and my Cable box (Cox DCT-6416 iii) and my Samsung Blu Ray Player (6700 I believe).
So I am having a handshake issue with my cable box and the TV. It will work perfect for a while and then red lines go across the screen and then the picture will go out, then come back on for a second then go out for 30 seconds and does this till I turn the TV off. I have had all 5 cable boxes Cox offers hooked up and they all do the same thing. So I unplugged the TV and HDMI from receiver to the cable box, then unplugged the cable box and waited 5 minutes and plugged everything back in to re-establish the hand off. Then the TV will work fine for a few hours and then go back to the exact same scenario of picture blinking in and out.
I know it is not HDMI issues because the Blu Ray player works perfect all the time. Just the cable box.
I have done numerous searches and have heard of what others have tried on their Direct TV boxes but I have COX Communications and don't want to change everything just for this TV. I have brought the TV down from 1080i, to 720p, 480 and so on. It does it on all of the different settings on the cable box.
Any suggestions from you guys?
I have been working with Sharp's Elite hotline and they have a tech dispatched to come to my house tomorrow to replace the main board of the TV. Do you believe that is necessary on a TV I have only had for 2 weeks?
Thanks for any help. Its hard to keep my wife happy with a $5K TV that I can't watch cable on. LOL.

A somewhat drastic solution for your problem would be to purchase a AV receiver with standby passthrough. Not entirely sure how much of the negotiation is "terminated" at the receiver, but my impression is that the handshake *is* different when a receiver is in the middle (of the conversation).
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Originally Posted by Strobie View Post

I just purchased the Elite 70 two weeks ago. I have everything hooked up with 1 HDMI from my TV to my receiver, Denon 1921, and my Cable box (Cox DCT-6416 iii) and my Samsung Blu Ray Player (6700 I believe).
So I am having a handshake issue with my cable box and the TV. It will work perfect for a while and then red lines go across the screen and then the picture will go out, then come back on for a second then go out for 30 seconds and does this till I turn the TV off. I have had all 5 cable boxes Cox offers hooked up and they all do the same thing. So I unplugged the TV and HDMI from receiver to the cable box, then unplugged the cable box and waited 5 minutes and plugged everything back in to re-establish the hand off. Then the TV will work fine for a few hours and then go back to the exact same scenario of picture blinking in and out.
I know it is not HDMI issues because the Blu Ray player works perfect all the time. Just the cable box.
I have done numerous searches and have heard of what others have tried on their Direct TV boxes but I have COX Communications and don't want to change everything just for this TV. I have brought the TV down from 1080i, to 720p, 480 and so on. It does it on all of the different settings on the cable box.
Any suggestions from you guys?
I have been working with Sharp's Elite hotline and they have a tech dispatched to come to my house tomorrow to replace the main board of the TV. Do you believe that is necessary on a TV I have only had for 2 weeks?
Thanks for any help. Its hard to keep my wife happy with a $5K TV that I can't watch cable on. LOL.

A few other things you could try: 1. Change the HDMI cables from STB and AVR make sure all are at least 6 ft. long. 2. If # 1. doesn't fix the problem plug the new/different cable from the STB into the TV's HDMI input you are currently using for Blu-ray. If neither work glad the tech visit is scheduled.
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Originally Posted by Strobie View Post

I just purchased the Elite 70 two weeks ago. I have everything hooked up with 1 HDMI from my TV to my receiver, Denon 1921, and my Cable box (Cox DCT-6416 iii) and my Samsung Blu Ray Player (6700 I believe).
So I am having a handshake issue with my cable box and the TV. It will work perfect for a while and then red lines go across the screen and then the picture will go out, then come back on for a second then go out for 30 seconds and does this till I turn the TV off. I have had all 5 cable boxes Cox offers hooked up and they all do the same thing. So I unplugged the TV and HDMI from receiver to the cable box, then unplugged the cable box and waited 5 minutes and plugged everything back in to re-establish the hand off. Then the TV will work fine for a few hours and then go back to the exact same scenario of picture blinking in and out.
I know it is not HDMI issues because the Blu Ray player works perfect all the time. Just the cable box.
I have done numerous searches and have heard of what others have tried on their Direct TV boxes but I have COX Communications and don't want to change everything just for this TV. I have brought the TV down from 1080i, to 720p, 480 and so on. It does it on all of the different settings on the cable box.
Any suggestions from you guys?
I have been working with Sharp's Elite hotline and they have a tech dispatched to come to my house tomorrow to replace the main board of the TV. Do you believe that is necessary on a TV I have only had for 2 weeks?
Thanks for any help. Its hard to keep my wife happy with a $5K TV that I can't watch cable on. LOL.

I had a similar issue. I have 5 stb running via cat5/fiber to the house hub. The software used by my provider is msoft Mediaroom. I would have the issue you are having and did all the troubleshooting. HDMI is digital so you either have a signal or not. I would run the hdmi from the stb directly to the TV and watch for a while and see if the problem persists. If not, then the issue has to do with your avr. My issue was resolved by setting my avr to "Pass through" mode with no scaling. If you get the issue with connecting directly to the TV then perhaps your stb is to blame.
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Just picked up the Elite 70. Does it still need to be broken in like plasma? When I first got my Kuro Elite I ran the break in slides by D-nice. Wondering if I have to do the same.
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I don't think so. I know I did not and it looks phenomenal
Using N3W813's THX Movie settings
Stunning
Had mine for 1 year.
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

I don't think so. I know I did not and it looks phenomenal
Using N3W813's THX Movie settings
Stunning
Had mine for 1 year.
My 70 also looks stunning with those settings.
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

My 70 also looks stunning with those settings.
Yes,..before N3 posted his settings, I was using the posted C-NET settings, and I thought those were great. But when I put in N3's settings, I never looked back.
Plenty of pop, bright, perfect skin tones, deep deep blacks....what else...oh yea, ...jaw dropping...biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Just picked up the Elite 70. Does it still need to be broken in like plasma? When I first got my Kuro Elite I ran the break in slides by D-nice. Wondering if I have to do the same.
For LCD/LED some recommend 100-hour break-in period, no special slides.
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Yea.. I'm not to sure if a break in is required for a LED. With my Kuro Elite I ran the break in slides for 7 days straight through. On the 8th day I turned it off for a whole 36 hrs. Then I started doing calibration with Control Cal following D-nice Isf Day/Night settings. But that's a plasma. And I know plasmas require break in.
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Have any of you Sharp Elite owners break in your sets with the break in slides? Or just ran it normal.
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

I don't think so. I know I did not and it looks phenomenal
Using N3W813's THX Movie settings
Stunning
Had mine for 1 year.

Could you supply a link to those settings?
post #11601 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Have any of you Sharp Elite owners break in your sets with the break in slides? Or just ran it normal.
Break in is not required on a LED, in fact some feel the same on a plasma Display. There is no phosphor on the screen to break in on a LED. To each his own though, I am sure there are people who break in there LED's.

If a person is going to calibrate, I will say I would wait till 250 hours or more to calibrate any unit, just in case wink.gif
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post #11602 of 13287
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

Could you supply a link to those settings?

Look in my signature for the link wink.gif
post #11603 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Break in is not required on a LED, in fact some feel the same on a plasma Display. There is no phosphor on the screen to break in on a LED. To each his own though, I am sure there are people who break in there LED's.
If a person is going to calibrate, I will say I would wait till 250 hours or more to calibrate any unit, just in case wink.gif

Ok thanks..
post #11604 of 13287
I need to get 2 more 3d glasses for my set. Does anyone recommend a different brand or should I get the Sharp 3d glasses.
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Are people using N3W813's settings for watching cable TV as well? Is this everyday watching or strictly movies?
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I use it for cable viewing and it's perfect! Must also say it has somehow improved my off angle viewing.
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

My 70 also looks stunning with those settings.

+1, Even better than my Geek Squad so-called calibration.
post #11608 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Strobie View Post

Are people using N3W813's settings for watching cable TV as well? Is this everyday watching or strictly movies?
I am using his settings for everything
DirecTV, Blu Ray, PC...OTA...etc.
They work perfect for everything.
On bright days, I will sometimes select IVC Low (instead of LD On) to add a bit of brightness, but other than that, I use his settings just as he has them posted in his signature link
post #11609 of 13287
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

Look in my signature for the link wink.gif

A big thanks to you.
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

A big thanks to you.
Did you enter N3's settings?
If so, what do u think?

A big thanks to N3W813 for your calibrated settings for THX Movie
Your settings, together with a Darbee Darblet can not be matched.

I can't imagine how the TV can look any better. wink.gif
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