Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 394

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma 

^^^ Just a note: Actually that comes from my knowledge and trends. We have very little stock and the Elites move well. Even if we had to much stock, the new models will not be out till Summer - Fall 2013. That is a while from now.

Originally Posted by Audiguy3 

Just watched the blogs on the CES Sharp press conference.They published release dates that look like most will be out this spring. Looking forward to your thoughts on the new models.

Originally Posted by DYAUSWINTERS 

Just looked all over cnet and saw zero mention of new ELITE. Not sure who it was that posted they had that info but once again someone who has claimed to have the inside info was wrong. This happens every year:D

Originally Posted by Ken Ross 

Yes that's true, but I suspect the overall PQ and bitrate is not BD quality. Add to that the limited number of these 1080p channels and the problem is obvious. Kdog's points were well made since bandwidth is the enemy of even high quality 1080p on virtually any broadcast system, forgetting 60p.
This is why, without a radically new compression/codec standard, I see very little chance for any significant amount of 4K broadcast material in anything even remotely defined as the 'near future'.

Originally Posted by dvzzz 

DSC_1333 grey pattern.jpg 1291k .jpg file Folks, my back and forth with Sharp continues on the unit number 3. Sharp has asked to photograph more, I was able to capture better shots. Please take a look and tell me if I am inventing things. This is in THX Movie mode with local dimming on. Somehow I can see all these issues while Sharp engineers cannot. Hope these photos will help them see. If your screens look look similar to minewith Calman Field 50% grey pattern then I will quit bothering everyone. This TV#3 is much better than units #1 and #2 but not normal in my eyes. I am seriously thinking about checking with an eye doctor but then I have to take my wife and 4 kids with me to check them too since they see it as well.

Originally Posted by mikey94025 

I agree and dvzzz should move on after trying three Elites. Regardless of the underlying cause or explanation, it doesn't seem that he'll be happy with the current Elites and limitations of the technology. If you stare too much at blank screens you're gonna find some flaws. Return it to Magnolia and be done with it.

Originally Posted by rogo 

Rad, the only next-gen Elite news will come from a true insider, I'm afraid.
I'll surely be able to extract plenty of meaningless promises from the guys on the floor. That was easy to do last year.

Originally Posted by dvzzz 

What I was asking for is for those willing to help me out is to put that Calman 50% grey field pattern in THX Movie with LD on and see if you see any green or red on the grey. You make it sound like this green/red on my screen is normal and you would consider that a limitation of the technology. This is what I am trying to understand, if I many of other owners see some kind of green on their 50% grey patterns, then this is normal and it is up to an individual to either accept or reject it. I just I respect this position but to be on the fair side of things I asked for help... These forums are for help and brainstorming. I am already getting some helpful responses from folks including Value Electronics (Elite dealer). All that spent their time helping me, thank you so much and you did confirm that you white or grey screens are pristine white or grey. If it was only pattern, then I would live with it, but try watching Frozen Country BD on my set and it is every bit there what is worst, green is a main color and impacts the entire white balance.
Returning to Magnolia is an easy way out but unfair to BestBuy, I feel truly bad after returning 2 sets, and BestBuy has been simply terrific in this whole situation, if you are in Illinois and need to buy high-end item go to Vernon Hills Magnolia, ask for Patrick the Sales Manager, he is best in class and accommodating. (Disclaimer: No I am not affiliated with Best Buy in any way or shape or form, I just think good people deserve praise, we typically using forums to post negatives, this is my chance to show that quality sales folks exist).
I was hoping that Sharp/Elite will accept responsibility and try to help me and Best Buy to locate non-defective serial number batch...
Move on to what? If all other Elite owners have pristine white or grey screens, why should I move on, at the price that BB offered me, there is no TV close in PQ.

Originally Posted by dvzzz 

What I was asking for is for those willing to help me out is to put that Calman 50% grey field pattern in THX Movie with LD on and see if you see any green or red on the grey. You make it sound like this green/red on my screen is normal and you would consider that a limitation of the technology. This is what I am trying to understand, if I many of other owners see some kind of green on their 50% grey patterns, then this is normal and it is up to an individual to either accept or reject it. I just I respect this position but to be on the fair side of things I asked for help... These forums are for help and brainstorming. I am already getting some helpful responses from folks including Value Electronics (Elite dealer). All that spent their time helping me, thank you so much and you did confirm that you white or grey screens are pristine white or grey. If it was only pattern, then I would live with it, but try watching Frozen Country BD on my set and it is every bit there what is worst, green is a main color and impacts the entire white balance.
Returning to Magnolia is an easy way out but unfair to BestBuy, I feel truly bad after returning 2 sets, and BestBuy has been simply terrific in this whole situation, if you are in Illinois and need to buy high-end item go to Vernon Hills Magnolia, ask for Patrick the Sales Manager, he is best in class and accommodating. (Disclaimer: No I am not affiliated with Best Buy in any way or shape or form, I just think good people deserve praise, we typically using forums to post negatives, this is my chance to show that quality sales folks exist).
I was hoping that Sharp/Elite will accept responsibility and try to help me and Best Buy to locate non-defective serial number batch...
Move on to what? If all other Elite owners have pristine white or grey screens, why should I move on, at the price that BB offered me, there is no TV close in PQ.

Originally Posted by rhed 

mikek753.. Question on the bottom picture.. Is that what I think I'm seeing? Those kinda yellowish,greenish things on the display? I have the same thing on mine except I see it more on a white slide.

Originally Posted by dvzzz 

DSC_1333 grey pattern.jpg 1291k .jpg file Folks, my back and forth with Sharp continues on the unit number 3. Sharp has asked to photograph more, I was able to capture better shots. Please take a look and tell me if I am inventing things. This is in THX Movie mode with local dimming on. Somehow I can see all these issues while Sharp engineers cannot. Hope these photos will help them see. If your screens look look similar to minewith Calman Field 50% grey pattern then I will quit bothering everyone. This TV#3 is much better than units #1 and #2 but not normal in my eyes. I am seriously thinking about checking with an eye doctor but then I have to take my wife and 4 kids with me to check them too since they see it as well.

Originally Posted by kdog750 

Sharp just announced a 60" 4K set scheduled for summer release. Price: $31,000, and it's not even an Elite. I think it's safe to say if the original rumors had turned out to be true (80" 4K Elite), you'd be looking at a $50,000 TV.

Originally Posted by rogo 

Just to be clear, the next gen codec is 2x as bandwidth efficient as H.264, so instead of the nominal 4x more bits, you only need 2x the bits to do 4K well.
Now, as to how, DirecTV for example is going to end SD broadcasting completely and with it all the SD MPEG-2 feeds it still has. That frees up much of its bandwidth to keep MPEG-4 HD and allow for some 4K using new codecs (which I believe will be dominated by H.265). That's already a DirecTV plan. I suspect the other cable cos. have something similar in the works.
Anyway, this is still a couple of years from real, but it's going to happen.
Back to those Elites, I suppose they could do new models this fall, but I wonder if they will. The previous generation has not sold much. It seems like effort with minimal return and it's not helping the Sharp brand, which needs the help. Sharp has real problems, failed to deliver 4K last year despite planning on doing so, has no clear plans to do that this year, and is hanging on by a thread... I wonder if flagship TVs that don't carry their brand really make sense given all that.
Perhaps someone who knows more from inside can weigh in. I'll ask at CES, but was lied to so extensively last year (mostly by the Elite folk), I don't expect to learn much useful this year.

Originally Posted by kdog750 

What the hell are these blue and red streaks whenever a pinpoint light is present? It doesnt do this on my projector so it's not an added effect intended by the director. It's like the TV can't handle lens flare or something. I put it in dynamic mode to show it more easily but it creates this effect in all modes.