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post #11821 of 14509
Mikek753.. At what shutter speed did you take you photos with? I have a canon 5d mark iii and want to take a picture of mines and post it. And see if anyone see the green patches on my set too. I wonder if the yellow sub pixel got something to do with this. I dunno, just guessing. Btw, mines is also a November build.
post #11822 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Mikek753.. At what shutter speed did you take you photos with? I have a canon 5d mark iii and want to take a picture of mines and post it. And see if anyone see the green patches on my set too. I wonder if the yellow sub pixel got something to do with this. I dunno, just guessing. Btw, mines is also a November build.

you can extract exif from my pics
However, anything below 1/30 will make it.
The point is to not be faster vs TV refresh rate.
I used 1/30 and 1/15

On side note - I'm puzzled by my pics at 1/60 and above, but below 1/240 !!!
I expected to see good uniformity at 1/60 and 1/100 as TV has to be 240 Hz, while my pics show those are closer to 60 Hz only
What do you think? Another marketing B.S. about panel refresh rate?
post #11823 of 14509
I used 1/30 shutter on my shots and the Elite panel is supposed to be native 120Hz not 240 if you have motion compensation on that it speeds panel up to 240Hz, on mine motion was turned off so panel was at 120Hz
post #11824 of 14509
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mikedit View Post

But it is nice to know that power is always there should you ever need it:) Probably would be overkill for what I want but I keep getting drawn to it for some reason, any other recommendations??

True, that fire power will always be their if needed. biggrin.gif
post #11825 of 14509
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

How did you check for uniformity and "patches"?
1. By naked eyes
2. taking pic by camera
3. Colorimeter moving over whole TV
4. etc
My 70" TV from Nov 2012 batch, so I'd like to be sure its the keeper.
tnx

Naked eye. Your #3 option has sparked an idea....I think I will take 40 measurements (8x5 grid) from a 50% gray field pattern and see how my set measures throughout the screen. If there is any green/yellow patch, my i1 Pro2 should be able to pick it up. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

@N3W813, thanks for confirming your visuals, any chance you can take shots similar the one that mikek753 and I did. mikek753 and my blotches/colored clouds are very similar in size and shape. Pictures make them more obvious but I can easily see them with naked eye on my unit and not because I know where they are. I invited my wife and she has perfect 20/20 and she immediately pointed to all areas on the screen.

Sure, I'll try to remember to take some pics on my current set (and on my replacement set if I decide to do the swap if no issues arise) and post them tomorrow.
post #11826 of 14509
Went to local best buy to check out the elite. Messed around with it, a lil disappointed. I know it needs calibration, but the panny plasma vt next to it had better blacks. It didnt handle motion too well eitjher. Guess i will see what the new panny/samsungs bring.
post #11827 of 14509
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Originally Posted by yamvmax View Post

Went to local best buy to check out the elite. Messed around with it, a lil disappointed. I know it needs calibration, but the panny plasma vt next to it had better blacks. It didnt handle motion too well eitjher. Guess i will see what the new panny/samsungs bring.
Settings, Settings, Settings.
If you don't go there with a set of menu settings for THX Movie from CNET or other fine members on this forum, you are wasting your time.
No telling how the TV was set.
Too many knuckle heads play with the settings in a store like that.
I went to my local BB last weekend.
The Elite was in "Dynamic Fixed" picture mode.....cool.gif
Go back to BB with N3W813's settings, ask for the remote, enter the values, and take a 2nd look.
You will prolly change your mind.
post #11828 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I have started to research same topic what comes close to Elite's PQ, I am going through major issues with color uniformity on 3 Elites now and I must say that Sony XBR was on my list, but I spent 3 hours with it in my friends place and even though uncalibrted picture and contrast is very good, there was crispness in Elite that Sony did not deliver. Viewing angles, blacks are very similar. Motion is better on Sony for my taste. However, that crispness is not there on Sony with neither of the settings. Cannot explain why. Perhaps, I will get flamed by Sony buffs but this is just my 2 cents, and take it for whatever it is worth, but I am sticking with Elite until Sharp fails to remove green uniformity issue on my set. Elite is elite...

I myself notice a significant difference in viewing angles between the Elite and XBR in which the Sony clearly outperforms to me. I see you are in Illinois so if you are near Chicago you can easily see this at the Best Buy on North Ave ...it has a 60" Elite, 65" Sony 950, then a 70" Elite all in a row along a lengthy aisle. I hear you on crispness though and even more so after I got it calibrated! It is such an amazing picture as long as I am in the sweet spot which is 99% of the time.
post #11829 of 14509
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

Settings, Settings, Settings.
If you don't go there with a set of menu settings for THX Movie from CNET or other fine members on this forum, you are wasting your time.
No telling how the TV was set.
Too many knuckle heads play with the settings in a store like that.
I went to my local BB last weekend.
The Elite was in "Dynamic Fixed" picture mode.....cool.gif
Go back to BB with N3W813's settings, ask for the remote, enter the values, and take a 2nd look.
You will prolly change your mind.
+1
post #11830 of 14509
I was comparing Elite with 55hx929 Xbr, not sure f Sony improved it on hx950, judging from your comparison, they did. I went back to Best Buy today to check 950 one more time since Sharp refused to replace my Elite saying My screens are perfectly uniform. Elites are crisper to my eyes, Sony does have bands, they are visible on the dark patterns, but because they are shades of grey, they are showing less in movie images. The TV that Ilked best shockingly was Sony 55HX850 edge-lit model, really almost perfect uniform grey, but the largest they make hx850 is 55". Going down from 70 to 55 is tough.
Panasonic VT50 did have accurate colors and very good blacks but at the expense of the whites, whites on Panasaonic were dirty, while on Elite they are crisp white (excluding sets with green issues).
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Originally Posted by PalJoey View Post

I myself notice a significant difference in viewing angles between the Elite and XBR in which the Sony clearly outperforms to me. I see you are in Illinois so if you are near Chicago you can easily see this at the Best Buy on North Ave ...it has a 60" Elite, 65" Sony 950, then a 70" Elite all in a row along a lengthy aisle. I hear you on crispness though and even more so after I got it calibrated! It is such an amazing picture as long as I am in the sweet spot which is 99% of the time.
post #11831 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I The TV that Ilked best shockingly was Sony 55HX850 edge-lit model, really almost perfect uniform grey, but the largest they make hx850 is 55". Going down from 70 to 55 is tough.

The 850 is actually rated very close to the 950. I would probably have opted for that one if they had made it in at least a 60".
post #11832 of 14509
It seems there may NOT be an Elite v2. ???

http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/sharp-lc-60le857/4505-6475_7-35566991.html

LAS VEGAS--In the absence of a new Elite Pro, Sharp's flagship television for 2013 will be the new LE857 series, which will come in three sizes topping out at 80 inches.

The 60-inch LC-60LE857 will begin shipping in March, and the 70-inch LC-70LE857 and 80-inch LC-80LE857 will follow in April. Pricing is to be announced.

The top-end LE857 television will feature the company's proprietary four-color Quattron technology, and this is something it shares with the step-down 7 series.

The TV will include a smart TV suite and powered by a dual-core processor. A new SmartCentral feature enables users to watch video in a picture-by-picture mode with the TV's onboard Web browser.

Design is a focus for Sharp's 2013 range with both the 8 and 7 series featuring a brushed aluminum with the flagship also enjoying diamond-cut edges and a "stunning" silver finish.

Sharp has announced the TV will ship with two new Bluetooth 3D glasses, which don't require line of sight and are less subject to interference.

Other features include:
Super Bright technology
Aquos 1080p LED display
Built-in Wi-Fi
Aquomotion960 with 240Hz panel
35-watt audio with built-in subwoofer
Wallpaper Mode displays preinstalled artwork or photos from a USB drive
post #11833 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rfc_2002 View Post

It seems there may NOT be an Elite v2. ???
http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/sharp-lc-60le857/4505-6475_7-35566991.html
LAS VEGAS--In the absence of a new Elite Pro, Sharp's flagship television for 2013 will be the new LE857 series, which will come in three sizes topping out at 80 inches.
The 60-inch LC-60LE857 will begin shipping in March, and the 70-inch LC-70LE857 and 80-inch LC-80LE857 will follow in April. Pricing is to be announced.
The top-end LE857 television will feature the company's proprietary four-color Quattron technology, and this is something it shares with the step-down 7 series.
The TV will include a smart TV suite and powered by a dual-core processor. A new SmartCentral feature enables users to watch video in a picture-by-picture mode with the TV's onboard Web browser.
Design is a focus for Sharp's 2013 range with both the 8 and 7 series featuring a brushed aluminum with the flagship also enjoying diamond-cut edges and a "stunning" silver finish.
Sharp has announced the TV will ship with two new Bluetooth 3D glasses, which don't require line of sight and are less subject to interference.
Other features include:
Super Bright technology
Aquos 1080p LED display
Built-in Wi-Fi
Aquomotion960 with 240Hz panel
35-watt audio with built-in subwoofer
Wallpaper Mode displays preinstalled artwork or photos from a USB drive

Sharp said they are coming out with 3- 4K models during the Summer. Vizio also claims to coming out with 4K models including a 60" and a 70". The most likely source for those panels is Sharp. I conclude from that (if Sharp actually delivers) that the 4K models will be the new Elites.
post #11834 of 14509
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

Sharp said they are coming out with 3- 4K models during the Summer. Vizio also claims to coming out with 4K models including a 60" and a 70". The most likely source for those panels is Sharp. I conclude from that (if Sharp actually delivers) that the 4K models will be the new Elites.

Way to soon to jump to that conclusion but I share your enthusiasm. On another note I can't say I care much for the silver bezel. cool.gif
post #11835 of 14509
^^^ Yeah I saw that about the silver color and that was an immediate turn off for me. Now the big question will be to get an Elite now or look for something else. If they do come out with a new Elite and it is 4K it will probably be out of my price range. Seems like all of the sets have some sort of problem or another but if I buy an Elite it will be from Robert or Chris so I would hate to get one with big problems and have Sharp stonewall me when help is needed. Decisions,decisions...rolleyes.gif
post #11836 of 14509
Why, Oh WHY do you have to mess with the bezel .... I have never met anyone that prefers the shiny, metal surround. I want the bezel to disappear as much as possible, and I believe that most people share that view ! Change it back to black before it's too late...please.
post #11837 of 14509
So Sharp announced some new TVS for 2013 but no mention of any Elite model....
post #11838 of 14509
The Elite is a Pioneer unit, the info "should" be released by Pioneer. With this said I looked for the Pioneer home audio / video booth with no luck, I will be looking again tomorrow.
post #11839 of 14509
I know we aren't permitted to discuss pricing in this thread but could someone PM me with what I should expect to pay for the 70 inch model here in Canada. Our Best Buy stores here don't carry them, no Magnolia, just the regular TV displays. I am in Ontario if that is helpful.
post #11840 of 14509
Anyword from CES about Elite v2?
post #11841 of 14509
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Anyword from CES about Elite v2?
I would go back about a dozen posts to find your answer
post #11842 of 14509
I was watching a few episodes of Game of Thrones on Blu Ray. I noticed on quite a few dark scenes, it would lose its contrast badly and the blacks looked purplish gray for a second or so until the processor "caught up" and adjusted the scene. Is this normal?
post #11843 of 14509
No, not normal. Blacks rule in this TV. Maybe in the source? Having said that, what are your IVC and other processing settings?
post #11844 of 14509
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

No, not normal. Blacks rule in this TV. Maybe in the source? Having said that, what are your IVC and other processing settings?
Even when using IVC, I've never seen my Elite exhibit that type of issue that his is. My blacks stay black. I'm guessing defective set.
post #11845 of 14509
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

No, not normal. Blacks rule in this TV. Maybe in the source? Having said that, what are your IVC and other processing settings?

I thought it was on local dimming but someone in the household set it to advanced high. That may have been the problem. I'll have to find the optimal settings for the rest. I absolutely hate THX mode so I'm in the minority here. Elite Pure probably were I will try to stay at.
post #11846 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

Sharp said they are coming out with 3- 4K models during the Summer. Vizio also claims to coming out with 4K models including a 60" and a 70". The most likely source for those panels is Sharp. I conclude from that (if Sharp actually delivers) that the 4K models will be the new Elites.

Where did you read, sharp is coming out with 3 -4k models?

I read sharp is coming out with only two 4k models and both will be 60"
http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34451_1-57562520/sharp-purios-about-ultra-hd-tv/

LAS VEGAS--Sharp has announced two new Ultra HD/4K displays at CES with the flagship Purios the first to receive THX 4K Display certification.
The two TVs are the 60-inch Purios now due in summer 2013 and the prototype 60-inch Ultra HD TV.
post #11847 of 14509
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Originally Posted by kdog750 View Post

I was watching a few episodes of Game of Thrones on Blu Ray. I noticed on quite a few dark scenes, it would lose its contrast badly and the blacks looked purplish gray for a second or so until the processor "caught up" and adjusted the scene. Is this normal?
YES!YES!YES! This is the EXACT same issue I commented on a few days ago. My setting was Dynamic and it happens every week. I exchanged sets and it still happens. I reproduced the effect at Best Buy and Sharp was able to reproduce effect effect at their facility. It has been elevated to next level Sharp Tech. BTW, it happens on DVD, or Apple TV or TIVO. It also happened on Standard setting this week and flyer 2 months of dealing with this I took it back and got my money back. THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN!!!!
post #11848 of 14509
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Where did you read, sharp is coming out with 3 -4k models?

I read sharp is coming out with only two 4k models and both will be 60"
http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34451_1-57562520/sharp-purios-about-ultra-hd-tv/

LAS VEGAS--Sharp has announced two new Ultra HD/4K displays at CES with the flagship Purios the first to receive THX 4K Display certification.
The two TVs are the 60-inch Purios now due in summer 2013 and the prototype 60-inch Ultra HD TV.

I don't have a link. Read various news articles (Google News-search on sharp as part of CES news) and that is what I remember. Is logical given Sharps 60, 70 and 80" sets.
post #11849 of 14509
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Originally Posted by lewisranchmike View Post

YES!YES!YES! This is the EXACT same issue I commented on a few days ago. My setting was Dynamic and it happens every week. I exchanged sets and it still happens. I reproduced the effect at Best Buy and Sharp was able to reproduce effect effect at their facility. It has been elevated to next level Sharp Tech. BTW, it happens on DVD, or Apple TV or TIVO. It also happened on Standard setting this week and flyer 2 months of dealing with this I took it back and got my money back. THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN!!!!

If it were a design issue other people would have reported it here and given AVS Forum's nature, it would have been discussed/argued over many pages. Search thread for cyan and see how many posts are returned. If they gave you your $ back after 2 months, they concluded you had a defective set.
post #11850 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

If it were a design issue other people would have reported it here and given AVS Forum's nature, it would have been discussed/argued over many pages. Search thread for cyan and see how many posts are returned. If they gave you your $ back after 2 months, they concluded you had a defective set.
I ran my set mostly in Dynamic Mode for the 2 months and it happens on shows like Castle, Person of interest, Elementary etc. you will see it every week if you use Dynamic mode. Sharp sent a tech out and I was able to reproduce it for him and he said he had never seen such a thing before. Also Sharp tech support was able to reproduce it at their facility and it has been elevated to next level tech support. I was also able to reproduce it at the Best Buy as well as on the replacement set they sent me. So it has been reproduced on 4 different sets and it is a design limitation. When I run it on Standard mode you do not see it as often. What I believe is that most people attribute it to some artifact of a scene change when you hit a dark scene and just ignore it. So i switched back to Standard mode, but I was watching Elementary last week and it flared like when I had it in Dynamic mode. It is very interesting in that when the tech was here and we had it on Dynamic mode I could freeze the picture and you could see the set still trying to adjust the picture and it finally settles to correct picture. I believe It is a high contrast issue as noted by why it happens reliably under Dynamic mode In dark scenes that have pictures with lighter colors in them. I believe the processor is overloaded in high contrast scenes and cannot process all necessary information in a timely manner. I have seen the issue so many times I am very sensitive to it, it is not as prevalent in Standard mode but I can see scenes when the processor seems to be at the limit of its ability to correctly process some of the dark scenes and the dark areas almost seem to "breathe" or change contrast a little before they settle. As a closing comment Sharp recommended i use THX mode but I do not like how picture looks and for $5k I should not have to cringe in anticipation when a dark/shadow scene comes on hoping my set holds in there and does not distort image. Just my$0.02.
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