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post #11821 of 13287
1/8/13 at 5:50am
t's the film....i believe it's called lens flare or something like that. this was intentionally done. if you check out the looper bl-ray disc review on here they talk about this added effect

Ok that would mean my projector is incorrectly displaying the image then instead of my TV. thanks!
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post #11822 of 13287
1/8/13 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by Mikedit View Post

Finally managed to get a look at the 60 inch Elite today and thought the picture looked very good, even off angle it looked nice. I would be using the TV primarily for watching sports and gaming on a PS3 or XBOX, with the occasional 3D movie perhaps. It would not be used for regular bluray movies, have another set-up for that. Now that hockey is back, that would be my major concern if there is any motion blur during the game. Any comments appreciated.

I think the 60'' Elite will be nice but arguably overkill for what you want to use it for, if you're not ever watching Blu-ray movies on it you're not really using it to its full potential. It would be like purchasing a Ferrari and only ever driving in the slow lane. cool.gif
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post #11823 of 13287
1/8/13 at 9:12am
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yes it's there...if this is your 3rd attempt you need to move on. can you return the set?

Correction, if this is his 3rd set he needs to go through someone like Robert at Value Electronics or Cleveland Plasma etc to name just a few. Someone who actually knows something about display's and can personally check it out for you. Finding any issues / defects before it's ever sent out to him should be their problem not yours. Though I can understand if this is not an option as many use the financing options available through the company they are making the purchase with like BB etc. cool.gif
Edited by RadTech51 - 1/8/13 at 2:32pm
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post #11824 of 13287
1/8/13 at 10:30am
Well on my way to vegas, hell of a start........as I am checking in, I was upgraded to First class for free, God I love it when that happens wink.gif
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post #11825 of 13287
1/8/13 at 11:35am
First-class treatment for a first-class guy. smile.gif
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post #11826 of 13287
1/8/13 at 11:45am
Been lurking for a while and making full use of this wonderful website. I'm glad I read this thread because I would have not known that the Sharp Elites were available again to order from Best Buy since their website says otherwise. I will soon be a proud owner of a 70" Sharp Elite come Friday!

I thought I saw a thread that listed things to know/do when one receives a new TV but cannot seem to locate it. I have the D-Nice slides ready to go to check for dead pixels. Can you suggest anything else I need to know when handling this beautiful TV? Wait 30 minutes to let it warm up before turning it on?
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post #11827 of 13287
1/8/13 at 11:53am
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Folks, my back and forth with Sharp continues on the unit number 3. Sharp has asked to photograph more, I was able to capture better shots. Please take a look and tell me if I am inventing things. This is in THX Movie mode with local dimming on. Somehow I can see all these issues while Sharp engineers cannot. Hope these photos will help them see. If your screens look look similar to minewith Calman Field 50% grey pattern then I will quit bothering everyone. This TV#3 is much better than units #1 and #2 but not normal in my eyes. I am seriously thinking about checking with an eye doctor but then I have to take my wife and 4 kids with me to check them too since they see it as well.

I definitely see the green patches. frown.gif I would suggest getting a refund from BB and purchase the Elite from another vendor. On my current set, there are absolutely NO green/yellow patches whatsoever on full field gray patterns. I checked all patterns from 10% to 109%.

I will be receiving my replacement set tomorrow (for a totally different issue) and will post back if it exhibits the same green patches as the 3 sets you've received.
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post #11828 of 13287
1/8/13 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

I definitely see the green patches. frown.gif I would suggest getting a refund from BB and purchase the Elite from another vendor. On my current set, there are absolutely NO green/yellow patches whatsoever on full field gray patterns. I checked all patterns from 10% to 109%.
I will be receiving my replacement set tomorrow (for a totally different issue) and will post back if it exhibits the same green patches as the 3 sets you've received.

How did you check for uniformity and "patches"?
1. By naked eyes
2. taking pic by camera
3. Colorimeter moving over whole TV
4. etc

My 70" TV from Nov 2012 batch, so I'd like to be sure its the keeper.

tnx
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post #11829 of 13287
1/8/13 at 12:40pm
@mikek753 Thank you for taking those shots, your last one and before the last one look very similar to mine, I would say almost same pattern. Not sure if this is the Nov2012 batch or not but I just got a reply from Sharp Engineering saying that my pictures (NOTE: my pictures that I posted here and the same I emailed to them, they concluded my screen is perfectly color uniform!!! mad.gif I am floored and completely disgusted, at least I was expecting honesty from them. Honesty is not a virtue anymore, I guess...

All in all, I see this green even on normal viewing materials. Attached is not showing accurately but if you overlay my grey pattern image with this movie images you will be able to see that green cast on the snow, camera EXIF should tell my shooting, note it was captured in RAW and then converted in Aperture into JPEG, if you have Mac I can provide NEF (Nikon RAW files):


DSC_1331.jpg 1934k .jpg file
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

Ok, I checked my new 70" Elite
I didn't calibrate it due to i1Display Pro wasn't arrived
I took multiple pics in multiple TV modes and with diff Shutter speed. I used my HTPC, where Paint shows 50% Gray at full screen or half screen.
Anything below 1/30 sec looks Ok, while 1/60 and faster shows scary images.
Check for EXIFs




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post #11830 of 13287
1/8/13 at 12:49pm
@N3W813, thanks for confirming your visuals, any chance you can take shots similar the one that mikek753 and I did. mikek753 and my blotches/colored clouds are very similar in size and shape. Pictures make them more obvious but I can easily see them with naked eye on my unit and not because I know where they are. I invited my wife and she has perfect 20/20 and she immediately pointed to all areas on the screen.
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

I definitely see the green patches. frown.gif I would suggest getting a refund from BB and purchase the Elite from another vendor. On my current set, there are absolutely NO green/yellow patches whatsoever on full field gray patterns. I checked all patterns from 10% to 109%.
I will be receiving my replacement set tomorrow (for a totally different issue) and will post back if it exhibits the same green patches as the 3 sets you've received.
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post #11831 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Well on my way to vegas, hell of a start........as I am checking in, I was upgraded to First class for free, God I love it when that happens wink.gif

That was not an accident, I phoned ahead and made sure they took good care of you:)

Now about that discount on the 70 inch Elite:D
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post #11832 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by RadTech51 View Post

I think the 60'' Elite will be nice but arguably overkill for what you want to use it for, if you're not ever watching Blu-ray movies on it you're not really using it to its full potential. It would be like purchasing a Ferrari and only ever driving in the slow lane. cool.gif

But it is nice to know that power is always there should you ever need it:) Probably would be overkill for what I want but I keep getting drawn to it for some reason, any other recommendations??
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post #11833 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:08pm
Mikek753.. At what shutter speed did you take you photos with? I have a canon 5d mark iii and want to take a picture of mines and post it. And see if anyone see the green patches on my set too. I wonder if the yellow sub pixel got something to do with this. I dunno, just guessing. Btw, mines is also a November build.
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post #11834 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:34pm
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Mikek753.. At what shutter speed did you take you photos with? I have a canon 5d mark iii and want to take a picture of mines and post it. And see if anyone see the green patches on my set too. I wonder if the yellow sub pixel got something to do with this. I dunno, just guessing. Btw, mines is also a November build.

you can extract exif from my pics
However, anything below 1/30 will make it.
The point is to not be faster vs TV refresh rate.
I used 1/30 and 1/15

On side note - I'm puzzled by my pics at 1/60 and above, but below 1/240 !!!
I expected to see good uniformity at 1/60 and 1/100 as TV has to be 240 Hz, while my pics show those are closer to 60 Hz only
What do you think? Another marketing B.S. about panel refresh rate?
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post #11835 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:37pm
I used 1/30 shutter on my shots and the Elite panel is supposed to be native 120Hz not 240 if you have motion compensation on that it speeds panel up to 240Hz, on mine motion was turned off so panel was at 120Hz
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post #11836 of 13287
1/8/13 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by Mikedit View Post

But it is nice to know that power is always there should you ever need it:) Probably would be overkill for what I want but I keep getting drawn to it for some reason, any other recommendations??

True, that fire power will always be their if needed. biggrin.gif
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post #11837 of 13287
1/8/13 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

How did you check for uniformity and "patches"?
1. By naked eyes
2. taking pic by camera
3. Colorimeter moving over whole TV
4. etc
My 70" TV from Nov 2012 batch, so I'd like to be sure its the keeper.
tnx

Naked eye. Your #3 option has sparked an idea....I think I will take 40 measurements (8x5 grid) from a 50% gray field pattern and see how my set measures throughout the screen. If there is any green/yellow patch, my i1 Pro2 should be able to pick it up. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

@N3W813, thanks for confirming your visuals, any chance you can take shots similar the one that mikek753 and I did. mikek753 and my blotches/colored clouds are very similar in size and shape. Pictures make them more obvious but I can easily see them with naked eye on my unit and not because I know where they are. I invited my wife and she has perfect 20/20 and she immediately pointed to all areas on the screen.

Sure, I'll try to remember to take some pics on my current set (and on my replacement set if I decide to do the swap if no issues arise) and post them tomorrow.
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post #11838 of 13287
1/8/13 at 3:15pm
Went to local best buy to check out the elite. Messed around with it, a lil disappointed. I know it needs calibration, but the panny plasma vt next to it had better blacks. It didnt handle motion too well eitjher. Guess i will see what the new panny/samsungs bring.
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post #11839 of 13287
1/8/13 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by yamvmax View Post

Went to local best buy to check out the elite. Messed around with it, a lil disappointed. I know it needs calibration, but the panny plasma vt next to it had better blacks. It didnt handle motion too well eitjher. Guess i will see what the new panny/samsungs bring.
Settings, Settings, Settings.
If you don't go there with a set of menu settings for THX Movie from CNET or other fine members on this forum, you are wasting your time.
No telling how the TV was set.
Too many knuckle heads play with the settings in a store like that.
I went to my local BB last weekend.
The Elite was in "Dynamic Fixed" picture mode.....cool.gif
Go back to BB with N3W813's settings, ask for the remote, enter the values, and take a 2nd look.
You will prolly change your mind.
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post #11840 of 13287
1/8/13 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I have started to research same topic what comes close to Elite's PQ, I am going through major issues with color uniformity on 3 Elites now and I must say that Sony XBR was on my list, but I spent 3 hours with it in my friends place and even though uncalibrted picture and contrast is very good, there was crispness in Elite that Sony did not deliver. Viewing angles, blacks are very similar. Motion is better on Sony for my taste. However, that crispness is not there on Sony with neither of the settings. Cannot explain why. Perhaps, I will get flamed by Sony buffs but this is just my 2 cents, and take it for whatever it is worth, but I am sticking with Elite until Sharp fails to remove green uniformity issue on my set. Elite is elite...

I myself notice a significant difference in viewing angles between the Elite and XBR in which the Sony clearly outperforms to me. I see you are in Illinois so if you are near Chicago you can easily see this at the Best Buy on North Ave ...it has a 60" Elite, 65" Sony 950, then a 70" Elite all in a row along a lengthy aisle. I hear you on crispness though and even more so after I got it calibrated! It is such an amazing picture as long as I am in the sweet spot which is 99% of the time.
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post #11841 of 13287
1/8/13 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

Settings, Settings, Settings.
If you don't go there with a set of menu settings for THX Movie from CNET or other fine members on this forum, you are wasting your time.
No telling how the TV was set.
Too many knuckle heads play with the settings in a store like that.
I went to my local BB last weekend.
The Elite was in "Dynamic Fixed" picture mode.....cool.gif
Go back to BB with N3W813's settings, ask for the remote, enter the values, and take a 2nd look.
You will prolly change your mind.
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post #11842 of 13287
1/8/13 at 6:24pm
I was comparing Elite with 55hx929 Xbr, not sure f Sony improved it on hx950, judging from your comparison, they did. I went back to Best Buy today to check 950 one more time since Sharp refused to replace my Elite saying My screens are perfectly uniform. Elites are crisper to my eyes, Sony does have bands, they are visible on the dark patterns, but because they are shades of grey, they are showing less in movie images. The TV that Ilked best shockingly was Sony 55HX850 edge-lit model, really almost perfect uniform grey, but the largest they make hx850 is 55". Going down from 70 to 55 is tough.
Panasonic VT50 did have accurate colors and very good blacks but at the expense of the whites, whites on Panasaonic were dirty, while on Elite they are crisp white (excluding sets with green issues).
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I myself notice a significant difference in viewing angles between the Elite and XBR in which the Sony clearly outperforms to me. I see you are in Illinois so if you are near Chicago you can easily see this at the Best Buy on North Ave ...it has a 60" Elite, 65" Sony 950, then a 70" Elite all in a row along a lengthy aisle. I hear you on crispness though and even more so after I got it calibrated! It is such an amazing picture as long as I am in the sweet spot which is 99% of the time.
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1/8/13 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I The TV that Ilked best shockingly was Sony 55HX850 edge-lit model, really almost perfect uniform grey, but the largest they make hx850 is 55". Going down from 70 to 55 is tough.

The 850 is actually rated very close to the 950. I would probably have opted for that one if they had made it in at least a 60".
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post #11844 of 13287
1/8/13 at 8:57pm
It seems there may NOT be an Elite v2. ???

http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/sharp-lc-60le857/4505-6475_7-35566991.html

LAS VEGAS--In the absence of a new Elite Pro, Sharp's flagship television for 2013 will be the new LE857 series, which will come in three sizes topping out at 80 inches.

The 60-inch LC-60LE857 will begin shipping in March, and the 70-inch LC-70LE857 and 80-inch LC-80LE857 will follow in April. Pricing is to be announced.

The top-end LE857 television will feature the company's proprietary four-color Quattron technology, and this is something it shares with the step-down 7 series.

The TV will include a smart TV suite and powered by a dual-core processor. A new SmartCentral feature enables users to watch video in a picture-by-picture mode with the TV's onboard Web browser.

Design is a focus for Sharp's 2013 range with both the 8 and 7 series featuring a brushed aluminum with the flagship also enjoying diamond-cut edges and a "stunning" silver finish.

Sharp has announced the TV will ship with two new Bluetooth 3D glasses, which don't require line of sight and are less subject to interference.

Other features include:
Super Bright technology
Aquos 1080p LED display
Built-in Wi-Fi
Aquomotion960 with 240Hz panel
35-watt audio with built-in subwoofer
Wallpaper Mode displays preinstalled artwork or photos from a USB drive
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post #11845 of 13287
1/9/13 at 4:41am
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It seems there may NOT be an Elite v2. ???
http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/sharp-lc-60le857/4505-6475_7-35566991.html
LAS VEGAS--In the absence of a new Elite Pro, Sharp's flagship television for 2013 will be the new LE857 series, which will come in three sizes topping out at 80 inches.
The 60-inch LC-60LE857 will begin shipping in March, and the 70-inch LC-70LE857 and 80-inch LC-80LE857 will follow in April. Pricing is to be announced.
The top-end LE857 television will feature the company's proprietary four-color Quattron technology, and this is something it shares with the step-down 7 series.
The TV will include a smart TV suite and powered by a dual-core processor. A new SmartCentral feature enables users to watch video in a picture-by-picture mode with the TV's onboard Web browser.
Design is a focus for Sharp's 2013 range with both the 8 and 7 series featuring a brushed aluminum with the flagship also enjoying diamond-cut edges and a "stunning" silver finish.
Sharp has announced the TV will ship with two new Bluetooth 3D glasses, which don't require line of sight and are less subject to interference.
Other features include:
Super Bright technology
Aquos 1080p LED display
Built-in Wi-Fi
Aquomotion960 with 240Hz panel
35-watt audio with built-in subwoofer
Wallpaper Mode displays preinstalled artwork or photos from a USB drive

Sharp said they are coming out with 3- 4K models during the Summer. Vizio also claims to coming out with 4K models including a 60" and a 70". The most likely source for those panels is Sharp. I conclude from that (if Sharp actually delivers) that the 4K models will be the new Elites.
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1/9/13 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

Sharp said they are coming out with 3- 4K models during the Summer. Vizio also claims to coming out with 4K models including a 60" and a 70". The most likely source for those panels is Sharp. I conclude from that (if Sharp actually delivers) that the 4K models will be the new Elites.

Way to soon to jump to that conclusion but I share your enthusiasm. On another note I can't say I care much for the silver bezel. cool.gif
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post #11847 of 13287
1/9/13 at 9:18am
^^^ Yeah I saw that about the silver color and that was an immediate turn off for me. Now the big question will be to get an Elite now or look for something else. If they do come out with a new Elite and it is 4K it will probably be out of my price range. Seems like all of the sets have some sort of problem or another but if I buy an Elite it will be from Robert or Chris so I would hate to get one with big problems and have Sharp stonewall me when help is needed. Decisions,decisions...rolleyes.gif
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post #11848 of 13287
1/9/13 at 10:16am
Why, Oh WHY do you have to mess with the bezel .... I have never met anyone that prefers the shiny, metal surround. I want the bezel to disappear as much as possible, and I believe that most people share that view ! Change it back to black before it's too late...please.
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post #11849 of 13287
1/9/13 at 10:29am
So Sharp announced some new TVS for 2013 but no mention of any Elite model....
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post #11850 of 13287
1/9/13 at 3:09pm
The Elite is a Pioneer unit, the info "should" be released by Pioneer. With this said I looked for the Pioneer home audio / video booth with no luck, I will be looking again tomorrow.
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