Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma
Lets take just the DSE for example, even the TC-P65VT50 has been reported to have this issue. If they fix one issue I am sure there will be another. Look at ROGO above, almost 30,000 posts. Have you seen any product made ROGO that does not have this issue or that issue here on AVS ? I have not and I have 60% or so less posts. There will always be an issue, the question is can you live with it.
Chris, I agree no model is perfect. I'm not sure whether my post count has much to do with my ability to discuss this, but I do agree with you.
My Panasonic, for example, can't display a bright white on a full white screen, like at the end of many commercials. It also false contours on some content, even post calibration. It's a really good TV, but it's not without flaws....
Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair
Just Google around you'll find plasma tv's with the dreaded "burn in" issue. To say today's plasma isn't susceptible to this issue anymore is really a terrible thing to spread. Fact is ANY static image left for a significant amount of time WILL leave that image in the screen. A friend of mine has a Panny plasma, and swore to me his plasma was perfect despite his constant viewing of ESPN. Wouldn't you know it, one day I was visiting with him, and as we were watching some snow boarding competition, there I saw the faint outline of the espn news ticker! He had a hard time seeing it, but once I pointed it out he was crushed. The good news is, he did use the same break in disc he had to get rid of it, BUT it took 3 days of playing this disc to get rid of it! And imo he was lucky to get rid of it. Again, just Google it, plenty of today's plasma sets are constantly ruined by burn in. I'm glad it hasn't happened to you, but I've seen it first hand, and read about it all the time.Bottom line is everybody's habits are different, and I know my, and my family's would probably end up getting burn in. I'm sorry, but I have no time to play this Russian roulette game with plasma.
.... however, none of those flaws are burn in, which is just not a real risk. sorry, it isn't.
And I've never experienced image retention of any magnitude, despite trying to generate it. We got a bit during the calibration when the menus were up a lot and the settings were being tweaked. Trying to duplicate that with PS3 menus has yielded failure. No logos, either.
Oh, and even during the calibration, you couldn't see the retention except up close.
We are off topic here and, again, I'm not telling anyone to stay away from the Elite. In fact, I hope my response to Chris makes it clear that I believe even an imperfect Elite is a good choice if it delivers the 99% you want. I'm just not going to let people believe that there is some real risk with choosing a plasma for the vast majority of people, because, well, there isn't.
That said, I have posted several times on AVS this past year, "Return the xxx plasma and buy an LCD." People who want to believe something are not easily persuaded otherwise. Facts are stubborn things, but they are nothing compared to stubborn people.