Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 405

So has anyone purchased the 60" from Pauls TV? And if so what is the best price right now on this set? PM please, thanks

No, the blue issue I was talking about only affects greyscale. If you have the issue, the ENTIRE screen and ANYTHING shown on the TV will look like it is tinted blue.

Your issue looks like there is something wrong with the CMS settings for Blue or Cyan. Or maybe something wrong with the set. I just viewed the same scene on Bluray on my 70", no issues.

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Edited by kdog750 - 1/20/13 at 9:35pm

If the screen is bigger, the sweet spot will be bigger and so the viewing "cone" will be larger. In other words, the apparent viewing angle will be better, even if the exact number of degrees is the same. It's also true that the panels are not identical and that the 70" panels might even have a few more degrees to work with with in addition to the larger viewing cone.

If Sharp is not making the Elite don't you think they would have made an official announcement. I spoke with someone in Sharp support who works very closely with production and they clearly stated that production isn't being halted. Everyone seems to think that November was the last month they built these units but in fact there are units with serial numbers that start with 212 which means these units were built in December. Do you really believe you could call Sharp and talk directly to a General manager? Not likely and just because Best Buy isn't going to sell the units anymore doesn't mean Sharp is stopping production. I also think if the sets weren't being produced anymore that the retail prices would be dropping considerably just like what happened when Pioneer stopped production.

This sounds like an example of what I was talking about earlier. Talk to five different execs and you will get five different answers as to whether the Elite will continue. This is often the case in a larger corporation. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. I imagine this is made much worse by the fact they lost almost 6 billion dollars last year. Probably mass confusion as all the top people are scrambling around trying to make quick changes to turn things around.

Pictures of my 70. Box shows NOV2012 on the serial number label.
I don't see green blobs, but of course I have old eyes.

I see a very faint traice in the center, but it's not bad. Looks like you got a good one.

That certainly seems to be the case from the below video. The rumors might be untrue which is why I've said repeatedly to be careful about these rumors.

Watch this video and you'll hear the Sharp Rep @ CES mention the Elite several times as a 2013 offering. Granted there aren't specifics given, but she does specifically mention the Elite line.

http://www.avforums.com/tv/index.php?videoid=445&utm_campaign=january_2013_newsletter&utm_source=Suite26&utm_medium=Email+Campaign

Jwcole..that set I must say is much better for a Nov. build. Not perfect just better then what I had or dvzzz,newbie. But still not the greatest. The floor model I tested yesterday at BB was evenly colored across the screen. And it was a earlier build. There bringing in another brand new 70 for me to test out before we do the swap.

Thanks Ross for that clip.. Yea I heard that part about Sharp is continuing the the Elite line for 2013. Well I hope that's true. Because it is one of the best panel now in PQ. And good news for us who got a bad batch. Because as for me, I'm gonna keep searching for a DSE free panel before I exchange mines.

My problem with the excessive blues in that movie scene were a result of artifacts introduced viewing the source material outside of THX. I know the higher settings can cause innaccuracies but this is the only time I've ever seen it noticeable, let alone extreme. When I put it on THX and local dimming on, it displayed correctly. Any other setting than that and the shadows turned absurdly blue.

That looks like a fine panel. Pictures taken will always show anomalies in a more extreme way. From those pics i can see some very faint dse, but nothing to complain about, nor green blotches. And I can just about guarantee that you dont see any issues like what has been discussed in here, when watching normal content on this panel. No panel is perfect with any set, but this one looks good to me. Thanks for sharing.

thanks for posting your TV pics
This gives me optimism to get better replacement vs I have ;-)

I can clearly see where the '2' large patches are...but that's me having to own 2 other sets (non-Nov12) previously without the patches, no offense, but jwcole1224's set is no where close to how it used to look in terms of uniformity

Would you mind to post pics of your 3rd set? Pls.

Would you mind to post pics of your TV with Gray 50%? Pls.
Even phone camera will show it if your set has green / pink DSE.

tnx

RadTech51, you do not need to use calibration software for reproduction, just download jpg or png files of grey patterns. Luminance of 50% to 100% will do fine.

Or you can download and burn the AVSHD709 patterns disc and use in a Bluray player, posted here...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

[bad joke] Soon we'll be able to see dead people too [/bad joke]

Has anybody posted about problems with a later build (Nov/Dec) 60" set? I don't remember seeing anything like that. I want a 60 so I was just curious. Like many here I still haven't founf anything that looks better than what I have or an Elite set. As I've posted in the past I can't watch a plamsa set. I had one at one time and it caused all kinds of havoc with my eyes. LED only for me and I want a true backlit set.

Thanks,

Jim

I have a 60" that does not have this issue from what I can tell. Although I have not comfirmed the build date, it was delivered December 6 after a backorder so it is a good possibility I have a Nov2012.

Great info, thanks Rogo. I am heading up to Best Buy now to test this.

Hopefully dvzzz didn't clean them all out and left me some 70" sets here in Chicago.

I wonder if those execs identified you as a "problem customer" because you returned so many sets and were just feeding you a line of B.S. in hopes to make you go away. Even though you identified a real problem I suppose it's possible they decided it's not an issue since others were not returning the set because of the green DSE. But more likely, different execs have different information. There may be nobody that knows 100% sure what the fate of the Elite is, even the CEO.

Agreed, not as uniform as I've seen on earlier 70s, but not quite as bad as the pictures depict.

RadTech, what shutter speed do you use?
I struggle to get a clean picture without the moire effect.

I had the privilege of having my 60” calibrated last weekend by Kevin Miller. Man what a difference Kevin made with my Elite.

I have had it since August (June 2012 build) after Sharp replaced my first set (bad remote sensor). I first used the CNET settings, then some of the other more detailed settings that were posted in this thread. While I was happy with the color accuracy with those settings, I felt that the black levels weren’t as “inky” as I remembered from my first set. Still, I put off having my second set calibrated on the hope that there would be a cyan fix forthcoming—not that the color accuracy bothered me, but I didn’t want to have to have it calibrated twice. Once it became clear that a fix was unlikely, I decided to bite the bullet and have it calibrated.

First of all, Kevin was a pleasure to meet and talk TV tech with.

As for his work—I was really blown away. The black levels and contrast were staggering after he was finished. The picture has much more depth and color vibrancy, without being overpowering. Even the off-axis viewing angle improved—it’s not perfect mind you, nor could it be given the technology—but it seems much better from all corners of the sofa. I’m still spending time with the set on different types of programming, but I couldn’t be happier. Even my wife, who was skeptical about whether we really would see a difference, had to admit the picture was dramatically better.

Kevin, thanks again for such great work!

Here's mines. Sorry if the pix is hard to see. Anyway DSE is more on the left sd and top right. Its more visible then what the pix show.

Nov. Build Pro-70X5
Taken with Canon 5D mark iii 1/15 4.0 ISO 100