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post #12211 of 14509
Can you tell us 3 first digits of your serial number? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by HD 335 View Post

I decided to throw on some of d-nice's slides to see if mine had any green dse even though I've never seen it before. And some members may have remember some of my posts indicating I don't even really see any dse at all other maybe when I'm watching baseball and the camera is panning across a green field. Even then, it's hardly noticeable and to me, looks like more a motion issue rather than dse. Mine is a 09/2011 70". I tried some of the darker slides and I can't believe how uniform the greys are compared to some of the other photos I've seen posted here. I did notice that depending on the angle viewed, there is some very slight variation in uniformity. My tv is tilted slightly forward at the top since it's mounted higher.

I believe Chris mentioned he used to run 40" offset litho presses. Although I've never operated a press myself, I've been in the commercial litho industry for 11 years now and constantly press checking jobs to ensure color accuracy. The hardest jobs is the "flood paint jobs" where you have to keep ink densities within 3-4 points. And my set easily satisfies my requirements for uniformity. I have to say that I now feel quite lucky, especially for the price they sold it to me and since this unit was a floor model at BBY/Magnolia for 8 months before they had to close down and sell off everything they could.

Now I just need a pro to calibrate my tv.



Edited by dvzzz - 1/23/13 at 8:13am
post #12212 of 14509
Are these the same D-Nice slides that are for Plasma? Can these be used for LED? Where do I find these? thanks!
post #12213 of 14509
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

Are these the same D-Nice slides that are for Plasma? Can these be used for LED? Where do I find these? thanks!

Those are my Break In Slides. You can find them at eaprogramming.com under te downloads page.
-Evangelo2
post #12214 of 14509
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Looks good. Only thing I see is some minor vertical banding that I would bet is not very noticeable with normal viewing.
It's not noticeable at all and the camera magnifies the banding more than if you saw it in person.
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Originally Posted by kesando View Post

Great looking panel. I have yet to see any issues with my January 2012 build as well. It seems based on this thread that panels from that month are mostly problem free.
Glad you have a good set as well! It's really unfortunate that some members here have gone through so much trouble and not get a good tv.
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Can you tell us 3 first digits of your serial number? Thanks.
108. I still remember drooling over the set I have now in the BBY/Magnolia showroom. It was a low traffic store and they were only a block away from my home. I would go there a couple times a week just to demo my blu-rays and never saw anything usual.
post #12215 of 14509
I am not a computer guy as far as burning test patterns. Is there any test patterns on any DVD of movies like THX that would work to test for green spots? Thanks
post #12216 of 14509
Hi, just download this mp4 files to a USB flash drive/stick, plug it into Elite and Elite's player will come up and you can play these movies from using Elite's remote and just try them all and you will see if you have green.
http://goo.gl/pBy98
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Originally Posted by Surge View Post

I am not a computer guy as far as burning test patterns. Is there any test patterns on any DVD of movies like THX that would work to test for green spots? Thanks
post #12217 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Hi, just download this mp4 files to a USB flash drive/stick, plug it into Elite and Elite's player will come up and you can play these movies from using Elite's remote and just try them all and you will see if you have green.
test_patterns.zip 86k .zip file
I only have a Mac, will that work?
post #12218 of 14509
I am on Mac. Yes it will work.
post #12219 of 14509
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Originally Posted by HD 335 View Post

I believe Chris mentioned he used to run 40" offset litho presses. Although I've never operated a press myself, I've been in the commercial litho industry for 11 years now and constantly press checking jobs to ensure color accuracy. The hardest jobs is the "flood paint jobs" where you have to keep ink densities within 3-4 points. And my set easily satisfies my requirements for uniformity. I have to say that I now feel quite lucky, especially for the price they sold it to me and since this unit was a floor model at BBY/Magnolia for 8 months before they had to close down and sell off everything they could.
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I was waiting to see if there where any others in the industry. If you like the panel, we know there are good ones out there for sure with printing back ground credentials. I am pretty darn happy to be retired from that industry. I have nightmares though from time to time. I ran a press for about 10 years, only one of my jobs was reprinted. It was a 19" x 25" sheet, 1000 sheet run on a full size press. I lost the company $100 tops. I watched many, many people bounce jobs with huge runs and waist tens of thousands of dollars in material. Stressful job that can be.......
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Originally Posted by yamvmax View Post

Well...he backed out....I'm thinking I might go for it for the price...lol. Spoke to elite...they said it will be under full warranty. Hard to pass up for the price. I'm coming from plasma...so I hope I'm not disappointed. Any thoughts?
Yes, I hate to say it, most plasma guys would not like the Elite LED. I am very hesitant to sell a plasma guy an LED, many trade offs there are.
post #12220 of 14509
Worked, I ran the video's and maybe see a slight hint of green and I mean slight. Wife said she did not see any. This is a 60 built in Nov. 2012. Hope my 70 delivered tomorrow looks as good! Will have to wait several hours for it to warm up before I use it thought. Thanks Jon
post #12221 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I was waiting to see if there where any others in the industry. If you like the panel, we know there are good ones out there for sure with printing back ground credentials. I am pretty darn happy to be retired from that industry. I have nightmares though from time to time. I ran a press for about 10 years, only one of my jobs was reprinted. It was a 19" x 25" sheet, 1000 sheet run on a full size press. I lost the company $100 tops. I watched many, many people bounce jobs with huge runs and waist tens of thousands of dollars in material. Stressful job that can be.......
Yes, I hate to say it, most plasma guys would not like the Elite LED. I am very hesitant to sell a plasma guy an LED, many trade offs there are.

Agreed....I passed. I will wait for the new panny zt and Sammy f8500. Thanks
post #12222 of 14509
my serial # starts with 108 and i don't see any green blobs or green dse had the set for 6 months now i'm very happy with it
post #12223 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I was waiting to see if there where any others in the industry. If you like the panel, we know there are good ones out there for sure with printing back ground credentials. I am pretty darn happy to be retired from that industry. I have nightmares though from time to time. I ran a press for about 10 years, only one of my jobs was reprinted. It was a 19" x 25" sheet, 1000 sheet run on a full size press. I lost the company $100 tops. I watched many, many people bounce jobs with huge runs and waist tens of thousands of dollars in material. Stressful job that can be.......
Yes, I hate to say it, most plasma guys would not like the Elite LED. I am very hesitant to sell a plasma guy an LED, many trade offs there are.

Count me in as one of the few Plasma guys who ended up purchasing an LED set. After convincing my parents to purchase three Pioneer Kuro Plasmas (two of them being Elites) when they were building their new home, I was sure my next TV was going to be a plasma...and then I came across the Sharp Elite.cool.gif
post #12224 of 14509
I feel like i got some blobs goin here--just picked up my tv from best buy last night (new - unopened) - manufactured date is nov 2012....

pardon the iphone but it did seem to give a good representation...



post #12225 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jayhawk785 View Post

I feel like i got some blobs goin here--just picked up my tv from best buy last night (new - unopened) - manufactured date is nov 2012....

pardon the iphone but it did seem to give a good representation...




yup... i see it...wow, what happened at sharp? is that a 70?
post #12226 of 14509
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Originally Posted by yamvmax View Post

yup... i see it...wow, what happened at sharp? is that a 70?

ya, its a 70--i figured i was pretty safe not getting a november tv if I bought it now... guess not eh? heh.

Think I'll visit best buy tomorrow and see if they want to try again--or swap it for the vt50... or keep it and rearrange my living room haha
post #12227 of 14509
Holy sh*t yamvmax, that's the worse case of DSE I've seen yet. Even a lot of the edge lit lower end TV's aren't that bad.
post #12228 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jayhawk785 View Post

I feel like i got some blobs goin here--just picked up my tv from best buy last night (new - unopened) - manufactured date is nov 2012....

pardon the iphone but it did seem to give a good representation...


Thanks for sharing
It doesn't matter what kind of camera of phone is used to take pics - if DSE exists than you can see it on resulting pics for sure.
No, you don't have to have 20 Mp SLR camera, 2 Mp phone cam will show it.

What we are Nov 2012 batch owners can do about this issue? This is the Q.
So far there is nothing else, but Nov 12 batch, nothing newer came for a while if ever will be.
So sad eek.gif
post #12229 of 14509
Grey screen doesn't look terrifically bad, but...
Does your all blue screen really look like that?
Almost looks like a photo exposure issue.

If it does, that's horrible, get a replacement, even another Nov 2012.
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Originally Posted by jayhawk785 View Post

I feel like i got some blobs goin here--just picked up my tv from best buy last night (new - unopened) - manufactured date is nov 2012....

pardon the iphone but it did seem to give a good representation...



post #12230 of 14509
How do I add a photo from my phone?
post #12231 of 14509
I have noticed that every set with green DSE does color shift main colors, including Blue, I have tested and retested and every one of those green blobs shifts other colors visibly. I do not even need to take a meter out for that. All in all, these issues are omni-present on every Nov2012 build.
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Originally Posted by jwcole1224 View Post

Grey screen doesn't look terrifically bad, but...
Does your all blue screen really look like that?
Almost looks like a photo exposure issue.

If it does, that's horrible, get a replacement, even another Nov 2012.
post #12232 of 14509
Sadly, I was thinking about downsizing to 60" to save myself from 70" green DSE, 60" do show less DSE even on Nov2012 build, it IS there vs. pre-Nov 60" build that was grey-grey. My conclusion on Nov2012 Elites, they have been running into dead-pixeling with earlier builds and I suspect they changed the panel in Nov to avoid dead-pixels. In 6 units that I had + 2 in-store from Nov2012 build (211 serial batch) no dead pixels, but on early 108 serial build (I saw 3 units) every set had dead pixels. I frankly will take dead pixel over nasty green any day. Interested in your opinions if dead-pixel is a predictor for panel decline with more dead pixels. Just curious. I see a lot of dead pixels on 65" XBRs.

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Originally Posted by Surge View Post

Worked, I ran the video's and maybe see a slight hint of green and I mean slight. Wife said she did not see any. This is a 60 built in Nov. 2012. Hope my 70 delivered tomorrow looks as good! Will have to wait several hours for it to warm up before I use it thought. Thanks Jon

Edited by dvzzz - 1/24/13 at 7:40am
post #12233 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jwcole1224 View Post

Grey screen doesn't look terrifically bad, but...
Does your all blue screen really look like that?
Almost looks like a photo exposure issue.

If it does, that's horrible, get a replacement, even another Nov 2012.

Ya, the blue shows the problem the 'best' if you want to call it that...

I went to best buy and told them to swap it with a vt50--i dont want to play the cat and mouse game to get a good one. Shame, really pretty picture on this tv. If it were 3k, I would probably just deal with it.
post #12234 of 14509
My 70 was purchased almost a year ago, and to be honest, I have noticed some slight dse during normal viewing, but nothing alarming, or any other color than grey dse. Again tho my set is a much earlier build. Honestly was a shock to me when I put up these test patterns see a lot of dse, especially a bunch in the lower left corner, but it's grey, doesnt interfere with coloring, ( blue, green, red test patterns stay their color) and most importantly I dont notice it in my everyday viewing. This new green dse is very alarming, as its changing the colors of the set where it's present. That is insane that Sharp is ok with this!
post #12235 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jayhawk785 View Post

Ya, the blue shows the problem the 'best' if you want to call it that...

I went to best buy and told them to swap it with a vt50--i dont want to play the cat and mouse game to get a good one. Shame, really pretty picture on this tv. If it were 3k, I would probably just deal with it.
Even at 2k I wouldn't deal with the green blobs changing colors like that!
post #12236 of 14509
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

My 70 was purchased almost a year ago, and to be honest, I have noticed some slight dse during normal viewing, but nothing alarming, or any other color than grey dse. Again tho my set is a much earlier build. Honestly was a shock to me when I put up these test patterns see a lot of dse, especially a bunch in the lower left corner, but it's grey, doesnt interfere with coloring, ( blue, green, red test patterns stay their color) and most importantly I dont notice it in my everyday viewing. This new green dse is very alarming, as its changing the colors of the set where it's present. That is insane that Sharp is ok with this!

They probably aren't really "ok" with it but are likely cutting corners everywhere they can to be profitable again. Maybe using cheaper panels and ending quality control on the Elite are some of the ways they are trying. Pure speculation though.
post #12237 of 14509
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

My 70 was purchased almost a year ago, and to be honest, I have noticed some slight dse during normal viewing, but nothing alarming, or any other color than grey dse. Again tho my set is a much earlier build. Honestly was a shock to me when I put up these test patterns see a lot of dse, especially a bunch in the lower left corner, but it's grey, doesnt interfere with coloring, ( blue, green, red test patterns stay their color) and most importantly I dont notice it in my everyday viewing. This new green dse is very alarming, as its changing the colors of the set where it's present. That is insane that Sharp is ok with this!



+my set is from an earlier build i have very slight dse only during panning scenes while watching hockey witch i watch often wife says i'm crazy cause she can't see it but i do almost imperceptible other wise set is perfect no dead pixels put up test patterns all loked good
post #12238 of 14509
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Originally Posted by wolfdog1959 View Post

+my set is from an earlier build i have very slight dse only during panning scenes while watching hockey witch i watch often wife says i'm crazy cause she can't see it but i do almost imperceptible other wise set is perfect no dead pixels put up test patterns all loked good
Even with my dse, I've been totally thrilled withy set. Like you, I watch a lot of sports and hardly notice it. I'm just glad I don't have this green blob issue going around.
post #12239 of 14509
Please send your pictures to Sharp. I think they're a good company and should know of your issues.
Send your email to wpuckett@sharpsec.com

I've dealt with Will and he treated me well. (Will / Well = Kinda Funny)

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Originally Posted by jayhawk785 View Post

Ya, the blue shows the problem the 'best' if you want to call it that...

I went to best buy and told them to swap it with a vt50--i dont want to play the cat and mouse game to get a good one. Shame, really pretty picture on this tv. If it were 3k, I would probably just deal with it.
post #12240 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jwcole1224 View Post

Please send your pictures to Sharp. I think they're a good company and should know of your issues.
Send your email to wpuckett@sharpsec.com

I've dealt with Will and he treated me well. (Will / Well = Kinda Funny)

I sent will the pictures and my experience. Really disappointed that with all the problems they still let these bad apples float around ...hope the pics help him correct the problem for future buyers!
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