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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks for your "free" calibration report. I've included it in the BB calibration list at the top of post number two in the thread that's linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post. We're looking forward to your real calibration report in the near future. smile.gif

If you want the settings the BB guy came up with I can post them. Honestly, the settings I found in this thread with some tweaks look better...
post #12482 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks for your "free" calibration report. I've included it in the BB calibration list at the top of post number two in the thread that's linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post. We're looking forward to your real calibration report in the near future. smile.gif

If you want the settings the BB guy came up with I can post them. Honestly, the settings I found in this thread with some tweaks look better...
No thanks. My display is already professionally calibrated. wink.gif

EDIT: The "Customer Reports" thread is for owner's impressions of the results of having a professional calibration -- not the settings. In the case of BB calibrations, I've made a special list just for them because the calibrators are anonymous.
Edited by htwaits - 2/3/13 at 12:36am
post #12483 of 13287
So just a update on my replacement set. Magnolia got the replacement set in. I checked the build date on the box. Same as what i got. Nov. Build. We got it out of the box and set it up. I went in and turn off all extra features including PS. Put up the slides. Same green monsters off to the sides and top. So since they were holding the floor model for me. Which had nice uniformity across the screen. And 8 months old. I decided to take it for my replacement instead. Though I really had high hopes for the new set that came in. I just don't understand why the Nov. batch is bad. Or may just BB Nov. builds batch.
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Forgot to add that besides the Magnolia sales person that helped me. A manager and the manager's boss (don't know what status he was) witness the green blobs. They too couldn't believe it. And when i ran the slides on their floor model they said it was like night and day. Anyway just want to thank the Magnolia team at BB for such great service and patients.
post #12485 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

I had a BB calibration free. Glad it was free. Tech told me they are not issued rs232 cables! He didn't even use the 10 point color controls! Worst calibration ever! I sent Kevin Miller an email tonight.
-Evangelo2

You will be very happy with Kevin's work, it's exceptional.
post #12486 of 13287
Hi. New here. Picked up a 70 from Chris at Cleveland and having Kevin M come over to do his magic. Worried about the Nov. 2012 build I received. Should I be concerned? I can see some pink and green dse while watching hockey. Also can see some bands horizontally and vertically. Very minor. The wife doesn't notice and I probably do just because I read a lot on here. Can Kevin make these affects even more minimal? Also, question about 3D. I bought some mono price red mere hdmi to go from explorer 8300 hd cable box to tv. But also run component through splitter to feed second tv in same room so I can watch sports w/ no volume while kids watch their shows. I must unplug hdmi to send component which is easy since back of cable box is easy to reach. With the hdmi I watched finding nemo in 3D. Awesome! But then I disconnected the hdmi and forgot I did. Watched another 3D movie on demand (through component) and had no problem. Pic looked great. Is hdmi high speed even necessary? I thought component couldnt run 3D. Thanks guys. Ant.
post #12487 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I just don't understand why the Nov. batch is bad. Or may just BB Nov. builds batch.

It's sounding more and more like the Nov. build is the last run even from comments by Cleaveland Plasma. If this is true, it makes sense the Nov builds have quality control. They are in drastic cost cutting measures. Make the last batch as cheaply as possible just before you cancel production. A much bigger profit margin and you will have no financial reprecussions on future production runs. And for the people that get screwed on a bad set, after spending that much money they likely wont be getting another one for a few years. And Sharp doesn't even know if they will be around for another year, let alone several years so they don't care about their reputation with the Nov. build Elite buyers.

Just speculation though.
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I think by now Sharp is probably aware of the issues with the Nov. builds. And I really think they don't give a s^*+. Because I guess the majority will just go out and buy these sets because its one the top of the line. With the I inkiest blacks. And best PQ to date. So just buy it and plug it in. Without really knowing what's really behind all that PQ. I mean really, not even the folks at BB new about it till I showed it to them. There was even other customers there watching what we were doing. And then asking what are we looking at. Until I pointed out what it was. We all know even the most expensive piece of equipment has it flaws. But the manufacture should at least do something about it.
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i just received my Nov 70 that i exchanged for the Nov 60 i had.

the banding on the 70 is much less than the 60 - in fact, i would say the banding on the replacement is not any worse (and in most cases is less) than the banding I witnessed when testing out a HX950 and VT50 at the store. So, i dont thinik i could improve very much in this regard relative to this tv.

There is very slight discoloration in what looks like the upper left corner of the screen when putting up solid colors. I did not notice it all, at first, when i was just watching hockey and golf. Even when knowing it is there, its pretty tough to see in most cases. So, I am not sure if i could beat this one with another Nov build. It is quite slight and an upper corner of the screen is probably the best location one could hope for.

Though it seems just 'wrong' to spend this much and have ANY issues, as i have done more research on various models and A/B/C'd issues across different makes and technologies for myself, I am really starting to think ANY and EVERY set is going to have banding or screen unifomity issues or some other issue - unless one gets a miracle set.

so, I am seriously considering calling it day and enjoy my movies on my 70" elite.

any thoughts on acceptability and if you would feel comfortable with cited issues?
post #12490 of 13287
Ale, your set sounds a lot like mine. I picked up a 70" November build and the set has been great. Literally every day the set impresses me more and more. I actually am more impressed now than I was a couple of weeks ago. I used N3W8I3's settings, and apart from a pro calibration, I don't think ANY TV is going to look any better and likely worse. I noticed a VERY SLIGHT pink hue in my lower left corner on a 109% white screen which is completely invisible on any content that I would actually watch. At this point I think with sets like ours the risk of getting a replacement far outweighs the potential of getting a "better" set. If you don't see anything wrong on the content you watch, it's best to leave it alone.
post #12491 of 13287
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

Sounds like calibration issue or some of the extra processing being applied - what settings are you using?

Think you're right about calibration. Plus maybe just getting used to different. Am using CNET settings in THX mode.
post #12492 of 13287
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Originally Posted by kdog750 View Post

It's sounding more and more like the Nov. build is the last run even from comments by Cleaveland Plasma. If this is true, it makes sense the Nov builds have quality control. They are in drastic cost cutting measures. Make the last batch as cheaply as possible just before you cancel production. A much bigger profit margin and you will have no financial reprecussions on future production runs. And for the people that get screwed on a bad set, after spending that much money they likely wont be getting another one for a few years. And Sharp doesn't even know if they will be around for another year, let alone several years so they don't care about their reputation with the Nov. build Elite buyers.

Just speculation though.


I really hope it's not the last though. I mean if it was, wouldn't Sharp at least mention the stopping or discontinuation of the Elite line? I mean it is their high end line.
post #12493 of 13287
Watched John Carpenter's The Thing last night. Do indeed see the DSE or white vertical bands against white backgrounds during movement that's been mentioned here, in opening scene as helicopter flies past all white background of snow mountains and clouded sky.

Good news is I don't watch hockey and can't see in Star Wars snow scenes anywhere, such as on planet Hoth or cloud city!

No denying it's a flaw (so far the only on my unit). But still happy to have the Elite over second choice of the VT or it's supposed improved successor coming out in April.
post #12494 of 13287
watching super bowl. does anyone else have a thin (1/4" or less) vertical green strip on the extreme right of the screen? mine is a 60" and has been professionally calibrated. first time i have seen this issue, not happening on other channels.
post #12495 of 13287
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Originally Posted by XBR23 View Post

watching super bowl. does anyone else have a thin (1/4" or less) vertical green strip on the extreme right of the screen? mine is a 60" and has been professionally calibrated. first time i have seen this issue, not happening on other channels.

My Vizio 60" also has the same thing only on CBS.
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Originally Posted by XBR23 View Post

watching super bowl. does anyone else have a thin (1/4" or less) vertical green strip on the extreme right of the screen? mine is a 60" and has been professionally calibrated. first time i have seen this issue, not happening on other channels.
YES !!
Very annoying
I have changed my View Mode from Dot by Dot to Stretch to get rid of it
It must be from CBS
post #12497 of 13287
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Originally Posted by shaft103 View Post

My Vizio 60" also has the same thing only on CBS.

thanks for the reply. must be a CBS feed issue. it's very annoying.
post #12498 of 13287
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Originally Posted by XBR23 View Post

thanks for the reply. must be a CBS feed issue. it's very annoying.
Use your "View Mode" button and select "Stretch"
That will get rid of it, but you will loose some of the picture on all 4 sides.
post #12499 of 13287
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

YES !!
Very annoying
I have changed my View Mode from Dot by Dot to Stretch to get rid of it
It must be from CBS

thanks! Stretch mode got rid of it.
post #12500 of 13287
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Originally Posted by XBR23 View Post

thanks! Stretch mode got rid of it.
Don't forget to change it back after the game.
I think it's adding ~5% over scan to the image
post #12501 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

Ale, your set sounds a lot like mine. I picked up a 70" November build and the set has been great. Literally every day the set impresses me more and more. I actually am more impressed now than I was a couple of weeks ago. I used N3W8I3's settings, and apart from a pro calibration, I don't think ANY TV is going to look any better and likely worse. I noticed a VERY SLIGHT pink hue in my lower left corner on a 109% white screen which is completely invisible on any content that I would actually watch. At this point I think with sets like ours the risk of getting a replacement far outweighs the potential of getting a "better" set. If you don't see anything wrong on the content you watch, it's best to leave it alone.

i think yours may even be more ideal than mine - although very very slight and i have to look for it, i can occassionaly see a subtle hue of green on some colors in that upper left corner....so, not quite totally accurate to say that i can never se mine under normal viewing.

this is the only reason why im still not quite 100% certain of keeping (only 99.9% sure) - if it truly was invisible during my content viewing, it would be a no brainer to me!
post #12502 of 13287
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Originally Posted by XBR23 View Post

watching super bowl. does anyone else have a thin (1/4" or less) vertical green strip on the extreme right of the screen? mine is a 60" and has been professionally calibrated. first time i have seen this issue, not happening on other channels.
Anything restricted to one source is almost certainly in the source.
post #12503 of 13287
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Originally Posted by shaft103 View Post

My Vizio 60" also has the same thing only on CBS.

Weird, my CBS feed isn't showing that on my 70" Elite. I'm watching on a slight delay and there is a out 1:00 left in the second quarter.
post #12504 of 13287
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Originally Posted by shaft103 View Post

My Vizio 60" also has the same thing only on CBS.

Weird, my CBS feed isn't showing that on my 70" Elite. I'm watching on a slight delay and there is a out 1:00 left in the second quarter.
post #12505 of 13287
People in the VT50 thread are seeing the same thing.
post #12506 of 13287
If you Elite owners aren't watching halftime you need to be...with the lights off. It looks incredible!!!!
post #12507 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

If you Elite owners aren't watching halftime you need to be...with the lights off. It looks incredible!!!!

Halftime is about the only good thing in the game
post #12508 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

I had a BB calibration free. Glad it was free. Tech told me they are not issued rs232 cables! He didn't even use the 10 point color controls! Worst calibration ever! I sent Kevin Miller an email tonight.
-Evangelo2

lol

as Ken stated up top.. you are in great hands with Kevin..

he does use ControlCAL Elite X5 Edition v2 for control on them
post #12509 of 13287
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

lol

as Ken stated up top.. you are in great hands with Kevin..

he does use ControlCAL Elite X5 Edition v2 for control on them

I'm four week in following Kevin's calibration of my "60. You will be quite happy you had him calibrate your Elite.
post #12510 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I really hope it's not the last though. I mean if it was, wouldn't Sharp at least mention the stopping or discontinuation of the Elite line? I mean it is their high end line.
The way inventory looks , if nothing more comes in ( it is looking this way ), I think Elites are very close to being sold out nationwide. : (
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