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post #12511 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

The way inventory looks , if nothing more comes in ( it is looking this way ), I think Elites are very close to being sold out nationwide. : (


Well.. If the Elite line will die.. And anyone following this thread that was thinking about getting one. Get one now! Because this will probably be the last set with one of the best PQ and inkiest blacks, full array local dimming LED set to date.
post #12512 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well.. If the Elite line will die.. And anyone following this thread that was thinking about getting one. Get one now! Because this will probably be the last set with one of the best PQ and inkiest blacks, full array local dimming LED set to date.

REALLY? So you think this wil be the BEST Local dimming led set EVER made? Im sure there will be others in the future, just not made by sharp.
post #12513 of 13287
Did you actually read his post? He said "ONE OF THE BEST" not the best. He also said "to date" not ever. Of course some other LED COULD be made in the future that is better. The question is, with OLED coming, will it?
post #12514 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

Did you actually read his post? He said "ONE OF THE BEST" not the best. He also said "to date" not ever. Of course some other LED COULD be made in the future that is better. The question is, with OLED coming, will it?

I read it. I just laugh, at how people think they have the "best", its always debatable. There is ALWAYS something better around the corner.
post #12515 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well.. If the Elite line will die.. And anyone following this thread that was thinking about getting one. Get one now! Because this will probably be the last set with one of the best PQ and inkiest blacks, full array local dimming LED set to date.

I agree, but unfortunately due to really poor QC with what looks like the last batch (Nov), it's going to be extremely difficult finding a good 70" Elite. This is very different from the way it ended with the Kuros. There were no QC issues at the end. frown.gif
post #12516 of 13287
It will be hard to find any 70".............
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post #12517 of 13287
I got a 70 inch Nov. build from Best Buy and it looks very good. I did not see any uniformity issues. I am glad I pulled the trigger since BB said these were getting discontinued. BB is also giving good discounts on their floor models as I believe they are out of stock on the new ones.

Superbowl on the Elite was a visual feast, especially when the lights were down, the inky blacks and the pop to the picture was incredible.
post #12518 of 13287
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

Total B/S.... I calibrated my Nov12 set couple of days after I received it, no issues at all. I also had no issues with colors being unstable during a calibration with my previous 2 sets.

When you say your colors are jumping, do you mean the readings are moving significantly when you take continuous readings on the same pattern?

yes, the same grey or other solid color - continuous readings the same pattern, readings value were jumping, while expected to be constant for constant pattern.
Calibrator said it has to be calibrated after 3 weeks - right after I'll not be able to return the TV anymore!
I'll re try tonight with my i1D3.
post #12519 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I would like to see if a "known" calibrator in here would have the same issues........

Who will pay for this research?
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

It will be hard to find any 70".............


This set is probably going to be like the Kuro Elites when they Pioneer stop all of their display line. Remember that! Lot of people went out in every store to get there hands on one. Geez, I was one too. Got so excited I got the 141 and the 151. Wifey thought I was crazy. But when it was completely sold out and people was still looking for it. Some would pay high dollar for a set. Especially the 141 biggrin.gif. So I sold my unopened 141 and kept the 151. Dang it! I should have went the other way. Oh well, I still have my Pio Elite which is moved to my room. And I still in awe of it...smile.gif
post #12521 of 13287
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

The calibrator is incorrect. Colors don't jump around. Was all automatic processing turned off?
No. Maybe.

Just out of curiosity, does it look okay in the THX modes?

The readings were done in ISF Day profile.
Yes, all processing were OFF.
Calibrator showed me readings on gray pattern (Laptop) that came from his pattern h/w generator over HDMI, also target arrow was moving, actually jumped while constant pattern and cont readings.

Could his generator be so bad?

I just wasted time.
post #12522 of 13287
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Originally Posted by davoe View Post

I just opened a case with Sharp for green/pink blotches. I manage to capture a shot that definitely shows the square patches are one sixth of the screen and alternate pink, green, pink on top and green, pink, green on the bottom. The geometric nature leads me to believe its inherent in the design.
LL

Sorry to see those, welcome to t he club of Green and Pink blobs.
The Sharp is in denial for this issue - IMHO.

I sent email to to wpuckett@sharpsec.com with my info for this matter.
But, no reply over the week. So, no hope for reply at all.

Did you get anything back from Sharp and who replied to you?

Mike.
post #12523 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I think by now Sharp is probably aware of the issues with the Nov. builds. And I really think they don't give a s^*+. Because I guess the majority will just go out and buy these sets because its one the top of the line. With the I inkiest blacks. And best PQ to date. So just buy it and plug it in. Without really knowing what's really behind all that PQ. I mean really, not even the folks at BB new about it till I showed it to them. There was even other customers there watching what we were doing. And then asking what are we looking at. Until I pointed out what it was. We all know even the most expensive piece of equipment has it flaws. But the manufacture should at least do something about it.

If Sharp doesn't care for existing Elite sets right now, what it will be look like after they will cancel this line completely?
I don't think that Sharp will be more friendly in the near future about Elite than right now.
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I just sent my info in Friday so I don't expect to here back soon. I'm going to Magnolia this AM. My 20 guests loved watching the Super Bowl last night, best image they've ever seen. You couldn't find the blotches all night. The problem was when watching the golf ball in the air with the overcast sky. I know where to look and it bugs me.

From the research I've done, it seems that nonuniformity is fairly common with all flat panels, but much less on plasma's, which is what I had before.

My other two choices were the new Sony 4k for $25k, or the Panny. I learned that the Panny can suffer from buzzing and fan noise and premature IR. choose your poison!
post #12525 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

If Sharp doesn't care for existing Elite sets right now, what it will be look like after they will cancel this line completely?
I don't think that Sharp will be more friendly in the near future about Elite than right now.


My opinion? I suggest getting some form of insurance for the set.
post #12526 of 13287
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Originally Posted by davoe View Post

I just sent my info in Friday so I don't expect to here back soon. I'm going to Magnolia this AM. My 20 guests loved watching the Super Bowl last night, best image they've ever seen. You couldn't find the blotches all night. The problem was when watching the golf ball in the air with the overcast sky. I know where to look and it bugs me.

From the research I've done, it seems that nonuniformity is fairly common with all flat panels, but much less on plasma's, which is what I had before.

My other two choices were the new Sony 4k for $25k, or the Panny. I learned that the Panny can suffer from buzzing and fan noise and premature IR. choose your poison!

Bro.. If you had a choice for the Sony? Really! I would have got the Sony! I wanted that set too. But after recently getting a 2013 C63 AMG because I read it was the last year production of the 6.3 liter engine I went out and got it. So wifey said "Hell to the No" you ain't getting the Sony no more! Geez, the stupid s^*+ we do sometimes just because it won't be available soon..eek.gif
And if you can afford it get it. Because at 84" and 4k. If anyone waiting for that size 4k TV to go down in price. It will definitely not be anytime soon. Anyway that's a friggin nice set.
Edited by rhed - 2/4/13 at 11:07am
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For you guys that answered my questions last week about DirecTV, and have DirecTV.... How should I have the display settings set with the Elite? As far as native mode on/off, original format or pillar box, etc... I've looked for these answers elsewhere, and just keep getting differing opinions, and would rather ask this forum, as you guys would know what actually looks best on the Elite... Btw, loving the switch from Comcast, most of the hd content definitely looks better, some about equal, and a very few a little worse. The super bowl was incredible with the elite, just wished it wasnt such a heart break finish (for me). Anyway thanks for your help fellow elite owners.
post #12528 of 13287
Native on the DTV and dot for dot on the Elite.
post #12529 of 13287
I have my HR25 set to 1080i all the time. Dot by Dot on the Elite
I don't like the native on, because it takes so long for it to change resolutions from one channel to the next
Use the "Format" button on the remote to select "1080i + Original Format"
There are alot of modes to toggle through. You can also press the buttons on the front of the box.
You can also disable the lower resolutions (480i/p 720p) in the setup menu.
This is nice in case someone accidentally presses the "FORMAT" button and sets the box to 480i
Agreed on the PQ of the Super Bowl, except for that annoying green line on the far right that CBS sent out the whole game.
post #12530 of 13287
Update: just got back from Magnolia, boy they are great. Took my usb stick with test slides with me. Their 60" & 70" demo had perfect uniformity. This gave me great hope in finding a good one. Neither of these demos were from November 2012. The 70" had a serial number starting with 109......led me to believe an August 2011 manufacturing date?

They have 45 units in their warehouse and I'm getting a replacement Friday. I requested a manufacturing date other than November 2012. We'll see.

At least I can honestly say that Sharp knows how to produce great uniformity.

BTW, the same slides show terrible IR on the Panny.
post #12531 of 13287
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Originally Posted by davoe View Post

Update: just got back from Magnolia, boy they are great. Took my usb stick with test slides with me. Their 60" & 70" demo had perfect uniformity. This gave me great hope in finding a good one. Neither of these demos were from November 2012. The 70" had a serial number starting with 109......led me to believe an August 2011 manufacturing date?

They have 45 units in their warehouse and I'm getting a replacement Friday. I requested a manufacturing date other than November 2012. We'll see.

At least I can honestly say that Sharp knows how to produce great uniformity.

BTW, the same slides show terrible IR on the Panny.

I say get the floor model from them. And deal out the price tag. Couple days ago my replacement set came in which was also a Nov. build again. And they opened the box and set it up next to their floor model. The DSE on the supposed to be my replacement set was worse then the Nov. build I have at home. Their 8 month old floor model had very nice uniformity. So I got that for a replacement instead. Of course for a very low price tag since it was a floor model. Anyway they will deliver it this Friday. And I'll post some pix with the slides on. And remember to get their PP. Their new policy now on the PP is they'll replace the set as many times your policy is in effect. Even if the set is obsolete, they'll either give you a store credit and pro rate the PP back to you or you can opt for a different model of equal value of what you got the set for.
Edited by rhed - 2/4/13 at 3:10pm
post #12532 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I say get the floor model from them. And deal out the price tag. Couple days ago my replacement set came in which was also a Nov. build again. And they opened the box and set it up next to their floor model. The DSE on the supposed to be my replacement set was worse then the Nov. build I have at home. Their 8 month old floor model had very nice uniformity. So I got that for a replacement instead. Of course for a very low price tag since it was a floor model. Anyway they will deliver it this Friday. And I'll post some pix with the slides on. And remember to get their PP. Their new policy now on the PP is they'll replace the set as many times your policy is in effect. Even if the set is obsolete, they'll either give you a store credit and pro rate the PP back to you or you can opt for a different model of equal value of what you got the set for.

What's "PP"?
post #12533 of 13287
The salesman at my magnolia said the 70" demo had other electronics issues and not to buy that one, they are very honest in that store.
post #12534 of 13287
Purchase protection.
post #12535 of 13287
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well.. If the Elite line will die.. And anyone following this thread that was thinking about getting one. Get one now! Because this will probably be the last set with one of the best PQ and inkiest blacks, full array local dimming LED set to date.

I agree, given the world wide obsession with deficit fetishes amongst our governing Elites (no pun intended), the economy has underperformed for a long time and will continue to do so, slowing down new technology to replace full array backlit as the best way to achieve PQ - like OLED.

This makes it more likely, perhaps, that the Elite will rank high for a few more years than normal.

And 70 is too big for me, happy with my 60.
post #12536 of 13287
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

What's "PP"?
Hopefully nothing naughty
post #12537 of 13287
I am in the early stages of buying a new TV to replace my 2006 52” Sharp LCD. This time I am really looking for high quality and am trying to decide between an LED-LCD like the Sharp Elite 60” or a Plasma like the Panasonic VT60 or the upcoming ZT60. I also looked at Samsungs and Sonys for the LCD but neither had that same PQ I am looking for.

Here is what my setup is like:
• Approx. 15’ x 15’ family room
• Lots of windows and south facing, but rarely any direct sunlight on the TV itself
• Recessed overhead lighting only
• TV mounted fairly high above fireplace, roughly 48+” up
• 5.1 sound system with Pioneer AVR, Energy speakers and sub

So what I am struggling with most is the light in the room. At least 50% of the TV time is during daylight hours (wife and kids) but when I watch I turn off the lights and close the curtains. At first I was leaning toward the Elite because I figured the LED would be better for daylight TV watching but I understand their later production runs might be flawed and the TV might be discontinued (true?). So that leaves me thinking about plasma but is the reflection going to be too much? I hear that the newer LED TVs are also much more reflective so maybe it doesn’t make a difference?

Thoughts? Suggestions?
post #12538 of 13287
It does not appear the latest 60" Elites are suffering from the same degree of poor QC as the 70s, but I'm not sure we have enough data on them yet to say that conclusively.
post #12539 of 13287
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Originally Posted by tex94 View Post

I am in the early stages of buying a new TV to replace my 2006 52” Sharp LCD. This time I am really looking for high quality and am trying to decide between an LED-LCD like the Sharp Elite 60” or a Plasma like the Panasonic VT60 or the upcoming ZT60. I also looked at Samsungs and Sonys for the LCD but neither had that same PQ I am looking for.

Here is what my setup is like:
• Approx. 15’ x 15’ family room
• Lots of windows and south facing, but rarely any direct sunlight on the TV itself
• Recessed overhead lighting only
• TV mounted fairly high above fireplace, roughly 48+” up
• 5.1 sound system with Pioneer AVR, Energy speakers and sub

So what I am struggling with most is the light in the room. At least 50% of the TV time is during daylight hours (wife and kids) but when I watch I turn off the lights and close the curtains. At first I was leaning toward the Elite because I figured the LED would be better for daylight TV watching but I understand their later production runs might be flawed and the TV might be discontinued (true?). So that leaves me thinking about plasma but is the reflection going to be too much? I hear that the newer LED TVs are also much more reflective so maybe it doesn’t make a difference?

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I have a bright room also, here are my conclusions:

Sharp Elite +'s- stunning picture, silent operation, no Image retention, great in bright room. -'s- possible uniformity issues, picture degrades past 45degree viewing angle, expensive

Vt50 +'s- no viewing angle issue, great picture, lower cost. -'s- can have early retention issues, noisy operation, not as bright, smaller picture than 70"
post #12540 of 13287
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

It does not appear the latest 60" Elites are suffering from the same degree of poor QC as the 70s, but I'm not sure we have enough data on them yet to say that conclusively.

i dont know....granted, i have. ridiculously small sample but i started with a nov 60 and it horrible banding and distinct green spots. i exchnged it with a nov 70 nd this one has extremely faint banding and much less obvious green/pink spots.

maybe i just got really unlucky with the 60 and really lucky with the 70 but i doubt it
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