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post #12511 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I think by now Sharp is probably aware of the issues with the Nov. builds. And I really think they don't give a s^*+. Because I guess the majority will just go out and buy these sets because its one the top of the line. With the I inkiest blacks. And best PQ to date. So just buy it and plug it in. Without really knowing what's really behind all that PQ. I mean really, not even the folks at BB new about it till I showed it to them. There was even other customers there watching what we were doing. And then asking what are we looking at. Until I pointed out what it was. We all know even the most expensive piece of equipment has it flaws. But the manufacture should at least do something about it.

If Sharp doesn't care for existing Elite sets right now, what it will be look like after they will cancel this line completely?
I don't think that Sharp will be more friendly in the near future about Elite than right now.
post #12512 of 14509
I just sent my info in Friday so I don't expect to here back soon. I'm going to Magnolia this AM. My 20 guests loved watching the Super Bowl last night, best image they've ever seen. You couldn't find the blotches all night. The problem was when watching the golf ball in the air with the overcast sky. I know where to look and it bugs me.

From the research I've done, it seems that nonuniformity is fairly common with all flat panels, but much less on plasma's, which is what I had before.

My other two choices were the new Sony 4k for $25k, or the Panny. I learned that the Panny can suffer from buzzing and fan noise and premature IR. choose your poison!
post #12513 of 14509
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

If Sharp doesn't care for existing Elite sets right now, what it will be look like after they will cancel this line completely?
I don't think that Sharp will be more friendly in the near future about Elite than right now.


My opinion? I suggest getting some form of insurance for the set.
post #12514 of 14509
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Originally Posted by davoe View Post

I just sent my info in Friday so I don't expect to here back soon. I'm going to Magnolia this AM. My 20 guests loved watching the Super Bowl last night, best image they've ever seen. You couldn't find the blotches all night. The problem was when watching the golf ball in the air with the overcast sky. I know where to look and it bugs me.

From the research I've done, it seems that nonuniformity is fairly common with all flat panels, but much less on plasma's, which is what I had before.

My other two choices were the new Sony 4k for $25k, or the Panny. I learned that the Panny can suffer from buzzing and fan noise and premature IR. choose your poison!

Bro.. If you had a choice for the Sony? Really! I would have got the Sony! I wanted that set too. But after recently getting a 2013 C63 AMG because I read it was the last year production of the 6.3 liter engine I went out and got it. So wifey said "Hell to the No" you ain't getting the Sony no more! Geez, the stupid s^*+ we do sometimes just because it won't be available soon..eek.gif
And if you can afford it get it. Because at 84" and 4k. If anyone waiting for that size 4k TV to go down in price. It will definitely not be anytime soon. Anyway that's a friggin nice set.
Edited by rhed - 2/4/13 at 11:07am
post #12515 of 14509
For you guys that answered my questions last week about DirecTV, and have DirecTV.... How should I have the display settings set with the Elite? As far as native mode on/off, original format or pillar box, etc... I've looked for these answers elsewhere, and just keep getting differing opinions, and would rather ask this forum, as you guys would know what actually looks best on the Elite... Btw, loving the switch from Comcast, most of the hd content definitely looks better, some about equal, and a very few a little worse. The super bowl was incredible with the elite, just wished it wasnt such a heart break finish (for me). Anyway thanks for your help fellow elite owners.
post #12516 of 14509
Native on the DTV and dot for dot on the Elite.
post #12517 of 14509
I have my HR25 set to 1080i all the time. Dot by Dot on the Elite
I don't like the native on, because it takes so long for it to change resolutions from one channel to the next
Use the "Format" button on the remote to select "1080i + Original Format"
There are alot of modes to toggle through. You can also press the buttons on the front of the box.
You can also disable the lower resolutions (480i/p 720p) in the setup menu.
This is nice in case someone accidentally presses the "FORMAT" button and sets the box to 480i
Agreed on the PQ of the Super Bowl, except for that annoying green line on the far right that CBS sent out the whole game.
post #12518 of 14509
Update: just got back from Magnolia, boy they are great. Took my usb stick with test slides with me. Their 60" & 70" demo had perfect uniformity. This gave me great hope in finding a good one. Neither of these demos were from November 2012. The 70" had a serial number starting with 109......led me to believe an August 2011 manufacturing date?

They have 45 units in their warehouse and I'm getting a replacement Friday. I requested a manufacturing date other than November 2012. We'll see.

At least I can honestly say that Sharp knows how to produce great uniformity.

BTW, the same slides show terrible IR on the Panny.
post #12519 of 14509
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Originally Posted by davoe View Post

Update: just got back from Magnolia, boy they are great. Took my usb stick with test slides with me. Their 60" & 70" demo had perfect uniformity. This gave me great hope in finding a good one. Neither of these demos were from November 2012. The 70" had a serial number starting with 109......led me to believe an August 2011 manufacturing date?

They have 45 units in their warehouse and I'm getting a replacement Friday. I requested a manufacturing date other than November 2012. We'll see.

At least I can honestly say that Sharp knows how to produce great uniformity.

BTW, the same slides show terrible IR on the Panny.

I say get the floor model from them. And deal out the price tag. Couple days ago my replacement set came in which was also a Nov. build again. And they opened the box and set it up next to their floor model. The DSE on the supposed to be my replacement set was worse then the Nov. build I have at home. Their 8 month old floor model had very nice uniformity. So I got that for a replacement instead. Of course for a very low price tag since it was a floor model. Anyway they will deliver it this Friday. And I'll post some pix with the slides on. And remember to get their PP. Their new policy now on the PP is they'll replace the set as many times your policy is in effect. Even if the set is obsolete, they'll either give you a store credit and pro rate the PP back to you or you can opt for a different model of equal value of what you got the set for.
Edited by rhed - 2/4/13 at 3:10pm
post #12520 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I say get the floor model from them. And deal out the price tag. Couple days ago my replacement set came in which was also a Nov. build again. And they opened the box and set it up next to their floor model. The DSE on the supposed to be my replacement set was worse then the Nov. build I have at home. Their 8 month old floor model had very nice uniformity. So I got that for a replacement instead. Of course for a very low price tag since it was a floor model. Anyway they will deliver it this Friday. And I'll post some pix with the slides on. And remember to get their PP. Their new policy now on the PP is they'll replace the set as many times your policy is in effect. Even if the set is obsolete, they'll either give you a store credit and pro rate the PP back to you or you can opt for a different model of equal value of what you got the set for.

What's "PP"?
post #12521 of 14509
The salesman at my magnolia said the 70" demo had other electronics issues and not to buy that one, they are very honest in that store.
post #12522 of 14509
Purchase protection.
post #12523 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well.. If the Elite line will die.. And anyone following this thread that was thinking about getting one. Get one now! Because this will probably be the last set with one of the best PQ and inkiest blacks, full array local dimming LED set to date.

I agree, given the world wide obsession with deficit fetishes amongst our governing Elites (no pun intended), the economy has underperformed for a long time and will continue to do so, slowing down new technology to replace full array backlit as the best way to achieve PQ - like OLED.

This makes it more likely, perhaps, that the Elite will rank high for a few more years than normal.

And 70 is too big for me, happy with my 60.
post #12524 of 14509
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

What's "PP"?
Hopefully nothing naughty
post #12525 of 14509
I am in the early stages of buying a new TV to replace my 2006 52” Sharp LCD. This time I am really looking for high quality and am trying to decide between an LED-LCD like the Sharp Elite 60” or a Plasma like the Panasonic VT60 or the upcoming ZT60. I also looked at Samsungs and Sonys for the LCD but neither had that same PQ I am looking for.

Here is what my setup is like:
• Approx. 15’ x 15’ family room
• Lots of windows and south facing, but rarely any direct sunlight on the TV itself
• Recessed overhead lighting only
• TV mounted fairly high above fireplace, roughly 48+” up
• 5.1 sound system with Pioneer AVR, Energy speakers and sub

So what I am struggling with most is the light in the room. At least 50% of the TV time is during daylight hours (wife and kids) but when I watch I turn off the lights and close the curtains. At first I was leaning toward the Elite because I figured the LED would be better for daylight TV watching but I understand their later production runs might be flawed and the TV might be discontinued (true?). So that leaves me thinking about plasma but is the reflection going to be too much? I hear that the newer LED TVs are also much more reflective so maybe it doesn’t make a difference?

Thoughts? Suggestions?
post #12526 of 14509
It does not appear the latest 60" Elites are suffering from the same degree of poor QC as the 70s, but I'm not sure we have enough data on them yet to say that conclusively.
post #12527 of 14509
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Originally Posted by tex94 View Post

I am in the early stages of buying a new TV to replace my 2006 52” Sharp LCD. This time I am really looking for high quality and am trying to decide between an LED-LCD like the Sharp Elite 60” or a Plasma like the Panasonic VT60 or the upcoming ZT60. I also looked at Samsungs and Sonys for the LCD but neither had that same PQ I am looking for.

Here is what my setup is like:
• Approx. 15’ x 15’ family room
• Lots of windows and south facing, but rarely any direct sunlight on the TV itself
• Recessed overhead lighting only
• TV mounted fairly high above fireplace, roughly 48+” up
• 5.1 sound system with Pioneer AVR, Energy speakers and sub

So what I am struggling with most is the light in the room. At least 50% of the TV time is during daylight hours (wife and kids) but when I watch I turn off the lights and close the curtains. At first I was leaning toward the Elite because I figured the LED would be better for daylight TV watching but I understand their later production runs might be flawed and the TV might be discontinued (true?). So that leaves me thinking about plasma but is the reflection going to be too much? I hear that the newer LED TVs are also much more reflective so maybe it doesn’t make a difference?

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I have a bright room also, here are my conclusions:

Sharp Elite +'s- stunning picture, silent operation, no Image retention, great in bright room. -'s- possible uniformity issues, picture degrades past 45degree viewing angle, expensive

Vt50 +'s- no viewing angle issue, great picture, lower cost. -'s- can have early retention issues, noisy operation, not as bright, smaller picture than 70"
post #12528 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

It does not appear the latest 60" Elites are suffering from the same degree of poor QC as the 70s, but I'm not sure we have enough data on them yet to say that conclusively.

i dont know....granted, i have. ridiculously small sample but i started with a nov 60 and it horrible banding and distinct green spots. i exchnged it with a nov 70 nd this one has extremely faint banding and much less obvious green/pink spots.

maybe i just got really unlucky with the 60 and really lucky with the 70 but i doubt it
post #12529 of 14509
can the IR on the vt50 be easily seen when watching normal content? how loud/distracting are the fan issues?
post #12530 of 14509
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Originally Posted by alebrady View Post

can the IR on the vt50 be easily seen when watching normal content? how loud/distracting are the fan issues?
Wouldn't that be a good question for the VT50 owner's thread?

I can tell you that, from my reading, very few people who complain about IR also indicate what they were watching, how long they were watching it, and weather or not they used solid color slides to spot the IR. It can be hard to get an accurate idea about IR even from the owners. Then there are those who claim to use their plasmas as gaming monitors for hours on end and they have never had any IR.

I have a five year old 60" Kuro that I use for football, hockey, the Olympics and other sports events. All of which can have fixed high contrast images on the screen. I also watch a lot of movies in many different aspect ratios, and some logo free HDTV. I don't check for IR with colored slides, and have never noticed any IR during the sources that I watch. I've always assumed that the frequently changing wide variety of what I watch has protected our display from IR.
post #12531 of 14509
Guys, I have a question... I bought my Elite from Best Buy/Magnolia last year, and at the time purchased a protection plan with them. I'm honesty not familiar with their plans, and don't know if it is honestly good or not. I don't usually purchase protection plans, but after spending this kind of money on the Elite, I jumped on it. In the past 6 months, I have received 3 separate emails from Sharp/Elite offering an extended warranty thru them. Would this be beneficial to buy, or is my protection from Best Buy/Magnolia enough? Thanks
post #12532 of 14509
Talked with Best Buy Magnolia rep who said the Elite has been discontinued in there system with no refresh coming from Sharp. Talked to Midwest Sharp reps last week and when asked why there was no mention of the Elite at CES they said the were pushing large displays and 8k technology(yes 8k). To release a 90" 8k Elite would be so cost prohibitive they would not sell enough to cover R&D. Seems like they wanted to release the 945 this year,but would have cut into the already low sales numbers of the Elite. I know it is not the same but the average consumer see an Elite setting at $7000 for a 70" and a Quattron 70" for $5000 they will for go for the Sharp.
post #12533 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I know it is not the same but the average consumer see an Elite setting at $7000 for a 70" and a Quattron 70" for $5000 they will for go for the Sharp.

Actually, the 70" non-elites can be found for under $3500 for the 70-847
You can buy 2 of those for the price of 1 70" Elite

I still feel Sharp over priced the Elite to the point the sales suffered.
If they had priced it at $5999 from the beginning, they would have doubled (or more) their sales and made more profit in the long run.
post #12534 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Hopefully nothing naughty

Performance Plan
post #12535 of 14509
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Originally Posted by alebrady View Post

can the IR on the vt50 be easily seen when watching normal content? how loud/distracting are the fan issues?

I have a TC-P60GT50 which is substantially similar and will tell you, it is fine as long as you baby the set. By that I mean:

- no CNN, CNBC, etc. at all. The CNBC ticker is permanently burned into my set, though it has faded significantly over time. Can only see the dark band from it on a pure white screen. I used it for a couple hours here and there when the TV was a few weeks old, but in 8 months since it still has not disappeared.
- no using your blu-ray player as an audio player. My Oppo BDP-93 displays text and numbers on the screen that take several weeks to disappear, when playing MP3s and FLACs from my NAS. If I use this now, I turn the TV off once the playlist is going. Apple TV rotates the image and i have not had a problem.
- no excessive watching of channels with logos in the corner, whether they are white, semi-opaque, whatever. I've had logos stick from James Bond marathons, watching FOX, etc.
- you should be willing to run the Disney WOW pixel flipper on "Vivid" mode to clear minor IR while you are at work, sleeping, etc.

The plasmas are great for dedicated media rooms such as man caves or home theatre rooms, where there's not much ambient light and you don't watch too much TV or sports from any one channel. But for a "living room tv" you need to be aware of these constraints. If you don't watch channels with tickers, and glare isn't an issue, have at it. It will be a much more uniform image than almost any LCD.

Buzzing is not a noticeable trait of my set.
post #12536 of 14509
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

Guys, I have a question... I bought my Elite from Best Buy/Magnolia last year, and at the time purchased a protection plan with them. I'm honesty not familiar with their plans, and don't know if it is honestly good or not. I don't usually purchase protection plans, but after spending this kind of money on the Elite, I jumped on it. In the past 6 months, I have received 3 separate emails from Sharp/Elite offering an extended warranty thru them. Would this be beneficial to buy, or is my protection from Best Buy/Magnolia enough? Thanks
It sounds like you are asking if buying two extended warranties covering the same time period would be a good idea. I don't think so. wink.gif

There's nothing wrong with the BB extended warranty other than maybe the price.
post #12537 of 14509
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It sounds like you are asking if buying two extended warranties covering the same time period would be a good idea. I don't think so. wink.gif

There's nothing wrong with the BB extended warranty other than maybe the price.

Ok thank you, just didn't know if I'd have better coverage or service from Sharp. As I've said, I've never bought an extended warranty
post #12538 of 14509
I must say the cheapest option is from Costco square trade, for $100 you get additional 3 years and YES they do sell for sets purchased outside of Costco.
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Originally Posted by GeneWildersHair View Post

Ok thank you, just didn't know if I'd have better coverage or service from Sharp. As I've said, I've never bought an extended warranty
post #12539 of 14509
Well....I was in PC Richard a week ago and I saw that the 70945 was in their system. I asked whether that was a holdover from 2012 and the sales guy who I have known for years, told me that was a new entry most likely made around CES time. No orders yet but the skew was there.

Perhaps with the demise of the Elites, they will decide to bring finally bring out the 945 viewing it as an easier to sell commodity. No need to worry about the 945 taking away sales from the Elite's. Also...Now that the R&D has been done they can bring down the price point to a more consumer friendly level.
post #12540 of 14509
Where is the build date located in the Elite?
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