Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 421

Try other Best Buys in your area. I would even try a larger radius (something like 100 miles for example) for a good deal on a floor model. Remember, you can always return a TV from Best Buy to ANY Best Buy.

Have you tried BestBuy.com and their open box items for each store in the Denver area? Just go to the site, pick up a store and look for open box items.

Just wait until they sell those 5 units then buy the floor display. It shouldn't be very long

That was a great suggestion - I found a couple of stores with 60" but no 70's Thanks I'll continue to monitor them

In your opinion, do you feel these sets will be highly sought after once no longer available? I see myself being quite happy with the 70" for at least the next 4-5 years.

I think they will be, largely because of no concern for IR and the fact that no comparable, affordable plasma exists (size wise). I don't believe the desire will be because the picture quality is noticeably superior. When the Kuro died there was no set like it so everybody wanted one. Nowadays TVs are MUCH better and people can pick up a VT50 or even the new ZT60 in only a few months, not to mention other great displays from Sony and Samsung.

Hmm.. My opinion? No.. Most high end consumers now is just waiting or going for 4k or OLED. Which now 4k is available to buy. Even if there aren't too much content to support 4k. Most of the high end consumers just wanna get a 4k set just because they have it. And most of us will just hold on to what we have now till 4k becomes cheaper or wait till there's more content. I say our sets is more then enough to hold us for at least 3-4 years. Hopefully by then 4k will have come down. And maybe OLED will be available too.

That was my thinking - I need something for the next five years I can live with

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Maybe I'm not reading some of these posts correctly, but is there really a question if someone can live with an Elite for the next five years? Lol "The next five years" takes us through 2017 and into 2018. For a set to take you through the next five years it needs to be available NOW. This begs the question: What set could I live with NOW for five years other than an Elite? If the answer is none, then hold onto what you've got (because it must be better than an Elite). How about the 84" Sony? Ya, that could work...for $25,000. As it stands the only set(s) are the VT50 and the upcoming ZT60 and F8500. The latter two haven't been professionally tested yet, so who knows about them. But even if they are all that, does anyone realistically think that they would be so much better (while being smaller) that one could "live with it for five years" but could not say the same about the Elite? I highly doubt it.

Makes me think of a line from C.Montgomery Burns.... "I'd trade it all for a little more"

Interesting points on both sides so far.

Hey Rad. IMO, 4K is a done deal and 8K in the U.S. is a long way off, if ever. With 4K displays already on the market, the 4K RedRay player already shipping, Sony already 'loaning' a 4K server pre-loaded with 4K movies with their 84" 4K display, 4K camcorders already on the market with more to come, it's a safe bet that 4K is here to stay.

I also heard 8k scales better, but Ken is right, The transition to 4k will be a huge move for the US market, not to mention a tough sell (in the beginning anywa.) The market will be really small for some years still.

I think it will come down to the content providers. If they can agree on a standard, I think it wouldn't be too hard to utilize extra layers on BD. Unlike the DVD- Bluray transition, they wouldn't need to completely re-tool their production lines, so hopefully that would keep cost increases for the finished product down. Same thing for players, if it just used extra layers, the possibility of a firmware upgrade without needing to buy new players would also be mitigated. Although the cost of a new player now is comparatively inexpensive (compared to the tv's themselves). A lot of what-ifs and maybe's but if content and pricing were right, I could totally see 4k taking off at the same pace as 1080p and Bluray did.

Even with more 4k capable blurays coming to the market and future expensive 4k tv's, it will be a niche market imo for a few years. Until cable, and satellite providers have the capability to truly begin rolling out 4k content I don't see even 30% of the consumers jumping to 4k. I can tell you without hesitation that I honestly believe we are at least 4 years out before a solid migration to 4k happens.

Wouldn't challenge you on that assumption, and I think 4 years sounds about right before we see real penetration. Frankly if they don't get a standard sorted out soon, and the content providers don't get on board it might end up taking even longer than that, which could allow the possibility of 8K leapfrogging it.

The thing is.. Most of A/V enthusiast would still dish out the cash for a 4k set. Even if cable, satellite, or other broadcast content doesn't offer it yet. If 4k is out on bluray I think that will still bring sells for the 4k set. Why? Because its a newest tech.. We wanna show it off to friends and families.. We gotta have it.. Its kinda future proof..Besides, these 4k sets will still be able to do 1080 also. So you won't be stuck with only 4k but it can do 1080. But have 4k at your within your reach.

I have a ir transmitter sending the ir signal to my av closet. The wall plate ir receiver is 10" lower than my screen and about 3-4 inches back against the wall. The wall plate receiver has a blue led that flashes when it has a signal. Whenever I put 3d material on the blue led just stays lit as if its always getting a signal an interferes with me using my remote to send any ir signals to the av closet.. Does the 70" elite cause some ir signal or interference?
-Evangelo2

To any concerned --

Noticed occasional ghosting around outlines of people, for example, during movement especially when against varied backgrounds like shrubs or drapes. Have settings set to THX, cnet settings.

By changing Film Mode from cnet's "Off" to either of the "Film" settings (low or advanced), ghosting is essentially gone or mush less noticeable.

video enthusiasts such as ourselves, you're right, but we are in the extreme minority. Just how many people do you think own an elite set, or any set retailing over 6k? Not saying 4k won't sell, but it will be a very small market, and have little content for the next few years, until it's more affordable to the average consumer.When I replace my Elite in 3 years, better believe it will new tech, whether it be 4k, or Oled I will definitely be spending the coin on the latest and greatest, as I feel I've done with the Elite. But as I said I'm amongst the few (like you) that would do so.

I'm a little late to the game, so please bear with me. I've tried to consume as much of this thread as possible.

I bought a floor model 70X5FD with ~1000 hrs of use. After putting it through its paces, I've noticed very slight uniformity issues in grays (not noticeable on actual content), and some DSE, also hard to notice in content. I can live with both of these flaws. However, I'm also seeing the pulsing issue and I find it extremely distracting. I have the latest(?) firmware (6/2012), I've disabled power saving, and tried various picture settings (aside from turning local dimming off entirely), and nothing seems to improve it. After reading through others' experiences, I still have a few questions:

1) Is the pulsing worse on some sets than others, or something seen on every set?
2) Is it something that people are able to adjust to and tune out eventually?
3) I haven't messed with the ISF settings (need to buy a USB > Serial cable, I suppose). Will this make a dramatic difference?

I traded in a VT50 for this set (which I really wanted to like!), because I discovered I'm one of those unlucky souls that sees rainbows on PDP TVs. If this pulsing/flicker continues to be an issue, do I even have alternatives? The Sony 950 is the only other set on my radar, and it seems to have its own QC issues. Needless to say, I've been extremely stressed out throughout this process, so your advice is appreciated!

I also echo what Rad has to say about pulsing, and add that you need to make sure power saving is indeed off. Also in regards to IVC, I've noticed that using IVC low, does seem to almost get rid of pulsing entirely. Here is some settings I used to use when I first got the set, and played with trying to get rid of pulsing... Mind you, this was all done by eye, and no equipment was used to come up with these.
Thx mode
IVC LOW
Backlight +2
Contrast +28
Brightness 0
Tint 0
Sharpness +1
Hue R0, Y-2, G+4, C0, B-3, M+6
Saturation R0, Y-5, G+2, C+8, B+1, M0
Value R+5, Y+2, G-2, C-13, B+8, M-2
Color temp low
10 point on
1: R+15, G-4, B0
2: R+6, G-8, B-15
3: R+6, G-5, B-15
4: R0, G-4, B-18
5: R0, G-4, B-19
6: R0, G-3, B-18
7: R-1, G-5, B-19
8: R0, G-6, B-19
9: R0, G-5, B-20
10: R0, G0, B-15
Motion enhance 120 low
Gamma adj. -1
All other advanced processing off

I have used IVC Low since i got the set and only use THX mode. No pulsing issues. Regarding setting, I use backlight -1, contrast 25 and brightness +1. Gamma/grayscale, color calibrated in Lumagen Radiance vp so no info for you on that.

I've been reading this thread, every page, since October of 2012. I purchased my 70" Elite from Chris @ Cleveland Plasma in December of 2012.

As it turns out, my set was a November build with the pink and green clouds visible on white to gray content, identical to many of the photos that have illustrated the issue in this thread.

I had contacted Sharp/Elite support (they are basically the same department) about a month ago. After a few phone calls and emails, including photographs of the issue with menu settings visible on the screen, I am happy to say that I have a resolution from Sharp.

They just called to tell me that they are going to replace the set. The person I spoke with said that they are not in production, but they are making some for issues like this. They are supposed to be testing my set soon and will call me with further information asap. They assure me that the replacement set will be pristine.

I do live in a remote rural area and this may have had some bearing on the disposition of my particular case. They could not find a service person willing to travel here on their initial search. I was waiting for them to get back to me on this when they called to say that they would simply replace the set. Who knows how this would have gone if they had sent out a tech that did not know what to look for?

So, for those of you with this issue, take heart. Contact Sharp support, be patient and persistent, give them everything they ask for and maybe a little more, with a smile. If they do send a tech out, be prepared with gray screens and recorded content that will clearly show the issue. They will likely take care of you.

Aside from this issue, which was only visible on certain content, and only if you looked for it, I have to say that I absolutely love this television. It's too bad they stopped making them.